Burqa 'ban' rocks Hyderabad college: India

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Any reform agenda, on religion part attracts huge reaction, whether it is in France or US.Same is the case here in India, when a college in Hydrabad town imposed abn on Burqa.Reacting to the ban girls demonstrarted and bycitted the class, later on it spread out side the campus and situtaion went out of control.Police administration intervened and controled the situation.

Are muslim women happy wearing burqa, specially the young generation?If this incident gives any hint, then it is for sure that girls love to wear that and they can fight for that.

Trouble erupted in Muslim dominated Mehdipatnam after burqa-clad young girl students held a massive agitation outside Vani College


(Junior and Degree) on Friday morning after the college principal, Y Annapurna, allegedly asked students not to wear burqa to class and shut the college gates on them.

The agitation soon degenerated into a stone pelting session with male students fron neigbouring colleges and parents of the girls joining in. The situation came under control only after the police - called in by the college management - resorted to a lathi charge.

The agitation came a day after a dharna by the students on Thursday protesting against what was termed by them as “the failure of the college management to react to the abduction of a girl student” from the institution earlier this week. The college management had looked the other way as they perceived that the girl had eloped with her boyfriend. In the event, the girl had returned by evening.

On Friday morning, the students charged that the principal had been berating them for wearing burqa for over a week saying that it did not comply with the uniform (salwar kameez) worn by other students. But the immediate trigger for the Friday trouble was the refusal of the principal to allow entry to late coming students, which soon degenerated into an argument about burqa, the month of Ramzaan and other matters like ‘promiscuity’ of girls.

“About 300 local youth joined the protesting girls and when police asked them to leave the place, some of them pelted stones at the police and college building,’’ deputy commissioner of police C Ravi Varma said. Eye witnesses said that male students of Gowtham Junior and Narayana Junior College who have their friends studying in Vani College joined in and started the bedlam.

“We were asked why are you wearing burqa when you are not particular about keeping our modesty. These comments are too much to bear,” a student from the college claimed. “The principal’s attitude irked us and hence we decided to take help from our parents,” a student of the college, Nadima Rahman told TOI.

The principal, Annapurna, however, told TOI, that she did not make any objectionable comment against the burqa. “The students were coming late for class and I had scolded them. They objected to this and staged a protest,” she said. The students, however, said that they were getting delayed because of the ongoing month of Ramzan and they had to offer Namaz before coming to college. They said, the college should not object to religious practices. “The college authorities blame us saying that we are spending more time in the mosque than with our books. This is objectionable,” a student said.

Analysts were amazed at the turn of events because the college has predominantly Muslims students. “I could understand such things happening in hardcore Hindu colleges and only with a few Muslim students. But not here,” said Salim Khan, a local resident. But an analyst - a Muslim—who does not want to be named said that “girls are girls, Hindu or Muslim. Their aspirations will be the same. Young girls will want to mingle with young boys, whether they wear burqa or not. Obviously, the principal is unable to appreciate this. She wants to say why are you friends with boys when you wear a burqa? This is the genesis of the trouble,” he added.

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Irawwan

No. What a friend from Hyderabad says is, when the girl caught paying attention more on extra-curricular activities and given a dress down (since burqua is a dress too), she did the best thing to pay it back. She just played the 'Muslim Card ' . Safe and steady. The equation was favourable because the Principal is a Hindu (relegious oppression, discriminiation). The city Hyderabad has a large percentage of Muslims. The extremist and anti-social elements among  - "local youth" according to the newspaper - them  who wanted to create a controversy,news   and religious divide took the baton and ran with that. 

Good news for the so called Hyderabad protestors - Terrorist group LeT is imposing burqua in Kashmir women's colleges. 

Salvation is just a meter away.

In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of militancy started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a North Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day ultimatum to ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing the hijab.

The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar, told The Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and would continue to do his work at the college.

Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding with his son and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and commandeered the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They wore masks and dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols and grenades,” Ashraf said.

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Amitjha

The cultural terrorism is the first stage for violent version of the terrorism. As far as Islamic mind set pattern is concerned, these event shows that they are already in influence of CT, and in coming times they will definitely move towards the hardline version of that.
Hope they do understand the operation model of Terror Group and get rid of this terror tactics.

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asif_khan

Every community has good and bad people ,blaming only Islam for every terrorism act is unjust.

The Hindu terrorists 

By I.K. Shukla (source : http://www.truthandgrace.com/Hinduterrorists.htm )

The Milli Gazette (online edition); September 26, 2005

Besides the Hindu terrorists from the well-established training camps in India under the saffronazis, other Hindu mercenaries too are active all over from Ayodhya to Kashmir. The infamous comment made by Lal Kishenchand Advani, the ex-Home Minister of the expired BJP-led NDA government, that Bajrangis being terrorists is a joke, only spurred the brutes of Bajrang Dal in their crime spree. Dara Singh, a Bajrangi, had successfully terrorized Orissa by burning alive Pastor Graham Staines and his two sons.

Advani’s clean chit to the Dal in the wake of this heinous crime made him look more an ogre than a sentient human. George Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, had called it a foreign conspiracy, not a Hindutva crime. That Hindu terrorists have been the backbone of RSS-VHP-BJP-Bajrang Dal, the communal fascist combine, has been evidenced time and time again. Its so-called “trishul-dikshas” (knife distribution) are naked and subversive paramilitary training camps for its militias. Not only are the enlistees given their arms and training but also incantatory lessons in hate and violence against minorities, who, they are told, have to be bloodily extirpated, in order for the land exclusively to belong to Hindus.

This climate of sacred savagery spawned by the saffronazis has successfully spread the miasma of bigoted violence all over. The abundance of firearms freely made available to the HinduTaliban gangsters empowers the anti-socials and prods them to “action”. This is an investment towards routine training in ethnic cleansing and eventually establishing Hindu Rashtra, envisaged by Savarkar and Golwalkar, the prime mentors of assassins, arsonists, thugs and rapists “serving the cause of Hindutva”.

A glimpse of the climate of Hindu crimes rampant is in order. An article, titled Gujarat 2002 Visits Gohana [Haryana] by Shamsul Islam (Milli Gazette,
16-30 Sep. 05, p.8, New Delhi) lays out “Similarities with Gujarat 2002 Carnage”:

• “Dalit houses and properties were burnt by releasing gas from cylinders. Big and well constructed houses were both looted and burnt whereas smaller houses were only looted. The arsonists carried away moveable properties in carts they had brought with them to transport their booty.

• Police and law and order machinery stood as mock spectators. • Only Dalit properties were targeted. If there happened to be a non-Dalit property, it was spared, which means the attackers had full knowledge of the identities of the home-owners. For instance, in Arya Nagar which has mixed population, only Dalit houses were blasted. Likewise, at Samta Chowk market (adjacent to Balmiki Basti), out of around 20 shops only a junk-dealer’s shop owned by a Dalit was looted and completely burnt.

• A hate campaign against Dalits preceded the actual attack on Dalits. Dalit localities were declared to be hotbeds of criminals. The local administration did nothing to discourage or check this activity.

• These were not only Hindu Dalit houses which were burnt but also those owned and inhabited by Christian Dalits were similarly looted and burnt.”

But the “cause” gets served in many ways else too, unimagined by the manic mentors. Below are just a few examples.

1. Ramesh Pande. He was among the terrorists who stormed the Ayodhya temple on 5 July. The state government rewarded his family with a lakh of rupees ex- gratia. More compensation to family members is said to be under consideration.

2. Doctor S.K.Pandita, charged with sheltering militants in Kashmir, along with Pt. Dalip Kumar, arrested, for financing them. Pandita disclosed he carried messages and ammunition to the militants.

3. Sham Lal and Kirpal Singh, in Rajouri-Poonch, belong to Hizbul Mujahideen and Sanjay to Lashkar-e-Toiba, according to SP J.P.Singh.

4. In 2001, Kuldeep Singh, with seven others, killed in an encounter in Chatter Gali, Doda district. Elder brother Randeep Singh is still a commander of the Hizbul Mujahideen, Doda Dist.

5. Bharat Kumar, arrested in Satwari, Jammu City, with arms and ammunition. Trained for four years in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

6. Lal Chand, crossed over to POK in 1997, returned to Doda in 2001 after receiving military training there, according to the police.

7. Police arrested a noted Hindu smuggler, involved in Jammu’s Raghunath Temple attack in 2002,

8. On 9 Nov. 2004, Manoj Kumar Manhas, was one of the 47 militants who surrendered to the army. He revealed he was lured into militancy by Baldev Singh, absconding.

9. Uttam Singh, alias Saifulla, 23, a sector commander with Hizbul Kahmir,slain Aug.19 in an encounter in Jammu. Was in Pakistan five years, trained in arms.

10. Virendar Singh, 25, a Hizbul operative, supplied arms and funds to jihadi colleagues in India, captured in New Delhi.

11. Aug. 24, Hizbul militant Chattar Singh, carrying a pistol and grenades, was arrested in Doda.

12. Shakeel Wani, ex-Hizbul militant, now a fruit vendor in Srinagar, said at least 100 Hindu Kashmiri boys had fought against Muslim militants.

13. Attractive Hindu girls luring Hindu youths into terrorism. The issue of
27 Aug. 05 Jagran, a Hindi daily, runs this story. Nina, 15, is said to have played an important role in making many Hindu youths terrorists. She sent them across the border for training in arms. From the Chingas area of Rajouri, living with a relative, Joginder Singh, she came in contact with Shamsuddin, the district commander of Hizbul, This discomfited Joginder who sent her away to brother Balwan Singh, but she continued her work securing food and shelter for the terrorists in Gujjar homes. From her the police found out many things.

14. Ravi Kumar, Satwari area, arrested while on his way to the border for trainin

15. Security personnel estimate that the Hindu terrorists may be 500 strong.

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Irawwan

Latest wonderful example of love affair and tolerance from Muslims.

Malaysia Muslims protest proposed Hindu temple KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Dozens of Malaysian Muslims paraded Friday with the head of a cow, a sacred animal in Hinduism, in a dramatic protest against the proposed construction of a Hindu temple in their neighborhood.

The unusual protest by some 50 people in Shah Alam, the capital of Selangor state, raises new fears of racial tensions in this multiethnic Muslim-majority country where Hindus comprise about 7 percent of the 27 million population.

The demonstrators who marched from a nearby mosque after Friday prayers dumped the cow head outside the gates of the state government headquarters. Selangor adjoins Kuala Lumpur.

Protesters stomped on the head and spat on it before leaving the site, Xavier Jeyakumar, a state government official in charge of non-Muslim affairs, told The Associated Press.

"This is a sign of disrespect, insensitivity and a huge insult to the Indian community," he said.

Such an overt display of religious discord is almost unheard of in Malaysia, which has carefully nurtured racial harmony among its three main ethnic groups, Malay Muslims, Chinese and Indians, since 1969 when the country suffered its worst racial riots.

The demonstrators said their neighborhood, Section 23, has a 90 percent Muslim population and building a Hindu temple there was inappropriate.

"If there is blood you (the government) will be responsible," Malaysiakini, an independent news Web site, quoted a protest leader Ibrahim Haji Sabri as saying.


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asif_khan

Older wonderful example of love affair and tolerance from Hindu brothers.

What ever happend in malaysia is condemable and should not be done again but  our hindu Brothers are not behind them ,how  our brother can forget the demolition of BABRI MASJID .


Thursday, 5 December, 2002, 19:05 GMT Tearing down the Babri Masjid (Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2528025.stm)
Eyewitness
By Mark Tully
Former BBC South Asia correspondent In December 1992, Mark Tully, who was reporting for the BBC, witnessed at first hand the destruction by Hindu hardliners of the mosque in Ayodhya. Here is his account of that day.

On 6 December 1992, I was standing on the roof of a building with a clear view of the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya.

This was the day the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and other organisations supporting it were to begin work on building the temple, but they had given a commitment to the government and the courts that it would only be a symbolic start, a religious ceremony and no damage would be done to the mosque.


I saw young men clambering along the branches of trees... and rushing towards the mosque
A vast crowd, perhaps 150,000 strong, had gathered and was listening to speeches given by BJP and right-wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leaders.

Among those present were LK Advani and Murli Manohar Joshi, now senior figures in the BJP-led government.

Trouble first broke out in the space below us when young men wearing bright yellow headbands managed to break through the barriers.

Journalists beaten

The police stood by and watched, while some men wearing saffron headbands and appointed by the organisers to control the crowd did try to stop them.

They soon gave up, however, and joined the intruders in beating up television journalists, smashing their cameras and trampling on their tape recorders.

Many Hindu activists wore saffron as they approached the site
Encouraged by this, thousands charged towards the outer cordon of police protecting the mosque.

Very quickly, this cordon collapsed and I saw young men clambering along the branches of trees, dropping over the final barricade, and rushing towards the mosque.

Crowd carried away

The last police retreated from the mosque, their riot shields lifted to avoid being hit by stones the crowd was throwing at them, and two young men scrambled on top of the mosque's central dome and started hacking away at the mortar.

Security forces were unable to stop the destruction
They were soon joined by others.

As telephone lines had been cut, I drove to Faizabad to file my story for the BBC and then tried to return to the site.

Before I could reach there, I and the Hindi-language journalists with me were threatened and then locked in a room by kar sevaks (Hindu volunteers).

We were kept there for several hours before we were rescued by a local official assisted by the head priest of one of Ayodhya's best known temples.

But by then the Babri Masjid had been totally demolished.







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asif_khan

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http://www.siasat.com/english/news/naqaab-and-burqa-banned-western-countries

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asif_khan

To know the advantage of burqa in current life , click the following link

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/naqaab-and-burqa-banned-western-countries

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Irawwan

Agree.

To control cultural terrorism first step is to control the madrassas that spread religious hatred. Let us not mince words here. Some of the madrassas the teaching include vilifying the infedels and glorify jihad. In simple terms kill infidel. Children grow up with such mentality obviously behave that way - animosity and hatred towards others. In India the perfect infedel is the Hindu. Majority, unbeliver, idol and animal worshiping and immodest women. No wonder in response Hindu extremism too raising it's ugly head. 

This is a win - win situation for our non-state actors  - neighbors - who are otherwise was tasting the sweetness of their homegrown terror boys are now somehow free to pay their attention back to the infidel country. 

We need to be very careful in future.

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Amitjha

Unfortunately what ever you say is True, but why this particular religious group is so fearful, not just here in India but across the world.why they think world is conspiring against them?

What led them to think so, there is no doubt that there must be negative feedback they get from other religious group, but same is the case with other religion too.

Home they will learn simple lesson of HARMONY.

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Irawwan

It is a very carefully programmed charade. Long before sportsmen found out that 'catch them young' is the best way, they have decided to go that way. Mold the young minds when they are ripe.But the difference is very few religions do it in an organized way. For example the religious book  is nothing but an operational manual. Unlike most of the religious books , instead of the words of wisdom and knowledge, it consists of dos and don'ts.Things the followers must and must not do. The belief that is drilled into the young minds is that they cannot question the book because it is the words of the god himself. Whoever questions, they will get killed. Oh, followers must not get knowledge from any other way too. So they set up the madrassas , that denies the children any exposure to the 'other' knowledge.

It is hardly possible that everything is black and white in the world. There are gray areas too in every human and it is nature. In this religion there is no scope for the gray, and it is not tolerated. 

Let us hope they will learn something because knowledge is easily available now. Untill  then everlasting peace and harmony is a nothing but a distant dream.

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info.star

Irawwan

I am interested to know why you hate Islam so much to be spreading such lies.

The Quran for a start is not a operation manual, have you ever read it? Yes it does tell us some do's and donts just as the Bible does but it tells us a lot more besides.

It is complete nonsense when you say that you cannot question the book as the book itself tells us to seek knowledge.

In the Madrassas asking questions is encouraged, the Masjids hold many lectures and ample time is given for questions

When you say that followers must not get knowledge in any other way, what about all of the interfaith debates that are facilitated the world over? What about all of the highly educated Muslims their are in the world, educated in areas other than religion?

Why do you hold so much hate for a religion you neither know or for that matter understand or even have knowledge of?

Untill people such as yourself get educated and learn acceptance for all people I can say that peace and harmony will never come to anyone.

As a Muslim I believe that it is the responsibility of anyone regardless of their religion or even lack of one to build a better world and life for all of the inhabitants of the planet. This is what Islam has taught me and while their are people spreading hate propaganda about cirtain religions that can not be facilitated.

So I ask you before you hate, learn, please

Asalam Alaykom

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Irawwan

Shalom, Info.star,

What a lie is that people who have so romantic concept about Islam still keep parroting that in today's world about the supposed to be good side of that religion. Muslims just let the small number of cruel, anti-human, anti-social psychopaths among them to hijack the religion of Islam, who silently seed and saw death across the glob. True, whatever you have heard and learned about Islam might be true. But after knowing what Islam really stands for, you and the brute majority of Muslims just stand and watch silently the while the Islamic terrorists all over the world killing people.

Whatever said in the book and the fundamental principles of Islam may be good. But so are those of other religions. Islamic terrorists does not recognize this and they kill simply because of the reason that they are non-believers. You , the silent majority of Muslims who supposed to be peace-loving  and tolerant just stand and watch with amusement.

Keeping your mouth shut is a much much greater crime than the killing done by all those terrorists together.  Stop the terrorists and then ask the world to learn, ask and worship the book. Period.

Education is worth only when a person is alive.

Kol Tuv.

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asif_khan

Walaikum,

In Islamic context JIHAD means to strive and to struggle against own evil inclination, to strive and struggle to make the society better. Even if a person is striving and struggling in the battle to defend himself, it is called jihad. This word holy war was first used to describe the Christian crusaders. And now it's used for the muslims unfortunately. Because holy war, in Arabic if you translate means Harman mukkad dasa. The word Harman mukkad dasa doesn't appear anywhere in the Koran neither in the XXXXX (4 : 36: 45) of the Prophet.


For example if someone says, I am going to do jihad to clean up the society and he says that pornography should be removed from society, he's right. So he's striving and struggling to remove obscenity from society which is right. But to say in terms which is wrong, which is against the Koran and the Hadith, for example the Koran says in (05:09:20) XXXXX, chapter number 5, verse no: 32, if any human being kills any other human being, whether Muslim or non-Muslim unless it be for murder or for creating corruption in the land, it is as though he has killed the whole of humanity. So any Muslim kills any other non-Muslim, an innocent non-Muslim or a Muslim that is against the Koran.

 

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asif_khan

What are the madrasas?
By Fazlur Rahman Faridi

To Western countries, religious madrasas appear to be the biggest handicap in the transformation and modernization of Islam. According to them these madrasas are ‘centres of violence and riots, terrorists and militant organisations. They are obscurantists. In addition to these madrasas, preachers in mosques preach conservatism and fundamentalism. Taliban were the students of these very madrasas’. The Sangh Parivar of India is also a party to these accusations. Praises showered in America on Gen Musharraf’s recent speech were not without reasons, one of which was his determination to tighten his government’s grip over these madrasas, to selectively destroy the criminals, and crimes which provide succour to ‘jehadi’ groups and to gag the speakers and preachers who preach terrorism.

The politics of cheating, falsehood, dishonesty, perfidy and anti-Islamism has neither the time nor the desire to see what sort of education is provided in Islamic madrasas and what men of character are prepared there and on what a large scale these institutions are engaged in providing welfare and education facilities and services in poor and backward countries. If any one or a few of these become misguided, is it necessary to annihilate all madrasas and such other institutions? There are innumerable terrorist and militant persons and groups in America, Europe and even in our own country whose members have received education in modern colleges, universities and other such institutions. In which religious institutions or madrasas have the Naxalites, responsible for loot and massacre in India, received their education? In which madrasas had the militant tribes of North-eastern states of India received their education? Most of them must have received their education in colleges and universities (which are certainly not Islamic).

Recently, Maoist groups murdered hundreds of people in Nepal. Before that, Nepal’s king and many of his family members were killed by his own son. He was the product of a modern educational institution. In Kosov and Bosnia, thousands of innocent people were murdered and thousands of virgin girls were molested and raped. Those responsible for such crimes were educated people not belonging to madrasas. Do we conclude from the terrorism of these people and organizations that all educational institutions, universities and colleges are centres or breeding grounds of terrorism? Why then these Islamic madrasas only are being singled out for this? Please go through the following extract of a letter written by Khalid Al Muhanna, chief editor of Arab News which he wrote in reply to President Bush’s letter to Saudi Arabia’s minister for education that educational institutions of Saudi Arabia breed terrorism.

‘If the syllabi of schools directly breed violence, USA too should give top priority to completely change the syllabi of its schools.

Charles Whitman was a university student who had murdered his class mates and teachers and had injured many. He was not a student of any Saudi school. School children who had not received their primary education in any school of Riyadh had committed massacres in a Columbine school.

Charles Manson had not received his education in any of Dharama school who believed that Lenin was God and who had resorted to large scale murder in blind obedience and pursuit of his orders’.

Timothy Mcviegh and UNA Bomber had not received their education in madrasas. Thousands of those people who had committed suicide in Guyana in November 1978 in blind obedience of the orders of Rev. Jini Jones were also not the students of religious madrasas. David Koresh, founder of ‘Children of God’, Moses David, L. Ron Hubbard created such groups and classes who indulged in blind faiths, terrorism and suicide etc. None of them had received education in any religious madrasa.

The agents of violence and cruelty in Palestine had never received education in any religious madrasa. Can the activities and facts about these misguided persons be falsified? Should the colleges and universities be closed down because of their such activities and their syllabi should be abolished? The truth is that criticism and attack on madrasas is because of enmity towards Islam. Our enemies and evil wishers know that religious education and religious madrasas are the back bone of Muslims’ religious life and cultural and religious identity and if these are abolished or if these are modernized their religious and cultural identity will be gradually lost.‘They played all their games and used all their tactics but God foiled all their attempts, though their tricks were dangerous and powerful enough to shift mountains’.

Whatever has been stated above should in no case be taken to mean that no healthy and constructive modifications are required in religious madrasas and their syllabi. Islam is a dynamic religious, an eternal movement. It does not preach and promote stagnation and blind obscurantism. Rather, it respects worldly facts. Healthy and constructive changes in religious madrasas is one thing and their comparison with modernity is another thing. q

(Translated excerpts from editorial, 
Zindagi-e Nau, March 2002)

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asif_khan

India uncovers Hindu terror group that carried out bombings blamed on Islamists (source :http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/india-uncovers-hindu-terror-group-that-carried-out-bombings-blamed-on-islamists-14076306.html)

At least 10 people, including monk and army officer, held

By Andrew Buncombe in Delhi
Sunday, 23 November 2008


India is in something of a state of shock after learning from official sources that its first Hindu terror cell may have carried out a series of deadly bombings that were initially blamed on militant Muslims. The revelation is forcing the country to consider some difficult questions.

At least 10 people have been arrested in connection with several bomb blasts in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon in the western state of Maharashtra in September, which left six people dead. But reports suggest that police believe the cell may also have carried out a number of previous attacks, including last year's notorious bombing of a cross-border train en route to Pakistan, which killed 68 people. Among the alleged members of the cell are a serving army officer and a Hindu monk.

Bomb attacks are not uncommon in India – there has been a flurry in recent months – but police usually blame them on Muslim extremists, often said to have links to militant groups based in either Pakistan or Bangladesh. As a result, the recent cracking of the alleged Hindu cell has forced India to face some difficult issues. A country that prides itself on purported religious and cultural toleration – an ambition that in reality often falls short – has been made to ask itself how this cell could operate for so long. India's military, which prides itself on its professionalism, has been forced to order an embarrassing inquiry.

The near-daily drip of revelations from police has also caused red faces for India's main political opposition, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), ahead of state polls and a general election scheduled for early next year. The BJP and its prime ministerial candidate, Lal Krishna Advani, have long accused the Congress Party-led government of being soft on terrorism that involved Muslims. However, the BJP has refused to call for a clampdown on Hindu groups, and last week Mr Advani even criticised the police over the way they questioned one of the alleged cell members, a woman called Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur.

The Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, phoned his rival to ask him not to politicise the issue or the investigation. "There is a strong case so let the police do their job," he told Mr Advani. While some commentators have expressed surprise about the discovery of the alleged cell, others have pointed out that there has been growing concern about the possible threat from Hindu extremists. In the summer, two members of a right-wing Hindu group were killed while putting together a bomb, and two other suspected members of the same group died in similar circumstances in 2006.

Meanwhile, senior right-wing leaders have made no secret of their wish that Hindus should form suicide squads to protect themselves against Muslim extremists. Bal Thackeray, leader of a group called the Shiv Sena, which has been responsible for communal and regional violence in Mumbai, wrote recently in the party's magazine: "The threat of Islamic terror in India is rising. It is time to counter the same with Hindu terror. Hindu suicide squads should be readied to ensure the existence of Hindu society and to protect the nation."

Observers say the fact that the police have arrested the alleged cell members amid considerable political pressure suggests the growing professionalism of its security forces. "It's the first Hindu cell and it's the first time Hindus have been shackled and taken to jail," said Professor Dipankar Gupta, a sociologist at Delhi's Jawarlahal Nehru University. "I'm quite pleased with the way the police have done their jobs."


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info.star

Salaam,

Do you have any idea what the term Jihad and Infidel actually mean?

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Irawwan

Shalom,

Jihad in the light of incidents of last 30 odd years = Destructive activities conducted by extreme Islamic terrorists to terrorize, subvert and kill to people they think who are non-believers of their version of Islam. 

Infidel (the translation of the lovely Arabic word "Kaffir") = Anyone who does not believe in Islam. Every "Kaffir" should be either killed or converted to Islam.

Oh, the book may say otherwise, but with all intent and purpose those two words denotes nothing but destruction , fear and death. Whatever the actual meaning, it does not apply in practice anymore.

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asif_khan

wa alai kum,

in Islamic context JIHAD means to strive and to struggle against own evil inclination, to strive and struggle to make the society better. Even if a person is striving and struggling in the battle to defend himself, it is called jihad. The word holy war was first used to describe the Christian crusaders. And now it's used for the muslims unfortunately. Because holy war, in Arabic if you translate means Harman mukkad dasa. The word Harman mukkad dasa doesn't appear anywhere in the Koran neither in the XXXXX (4 : 36: 45) of the Prophet.

For example if someone says, I am going to do jihad to clean up the society and he says that pornography should be removed from society, he's right. So he's striving and struggling to remove obscenity from society which is right. But to say in terms which is wrong, which is against the Koran and the Hadith, for example the Koran says in (05:09:20) XXXXX, chapter number 5, verse no: 32, if any human being kills any other human being, whether Muslim or non-Muslim unless it be for murder or for creating corruption in the land, it is as though he has killed the whole of humanity. So any Muslim kills any other non-Muslim, an innocent non-Muslim or a Muslim that is against the Koran.

 

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asif_khan

Walaikum,

The Verse (Every "Kaffir" should be either killed or converted to Islam.) you quoted ,half of that  is out of context and half of that is  not in the Quran. If you read the full context you will get a different picture.

The question you asked  is also asked by Arun shouri ( A BJP leader ) and the Dr. Zakir Naik has given the answer.To know the full context read the follwing .


Q. Doesn’t Islam promote violence, bloodshed and brutality since the Qur’an says that Muslims should kill the kuffar wherever they find them?


A: A few selected verses from the Qur’an are often misquoted to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence, and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the pale of Islam.


1. Verse from Surah Taubah

The following verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

“Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]


2. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:


“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.


3. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.


4. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriks wherever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.


5. Shourie jumps from verse 5 to verse 7

Arun Shourie is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatawas’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realise that he has skipped verse 6.


6. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:


“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6]


The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?


This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.


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khairuddin6

Terorist everywhere. This makes some of the world people became concerned because their actions can not be justified
regard from Indonesia Mengembalikan jati diri bangsa

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Unfortunately religion has become the hallmark of all these events  That includes all religions.  Mankind uses religion as an excuse to reach its goals of hatred. 

One can only hope that we get over it soon.  It has gone on too long.

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Amitjha

Tanks karl for recommending the story. We are victim of our own prejudices, whether it is in the name of religion or race or colour or sex. Getting out of it is like a erase the whole memory box, and i dont think that will happen sooooooooon.

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Irawwan

"One can only hope that we get over it soon."

Exactly.Unfortunately things does not happen on their own. We have to make it happen. 

College Principal denied they had banned burqua.

Asif Nagar police registered cases under sections 147 (punishment for rioting), 148 (rioting armed with deadly weapons), 506 (criminal intimidation) and 332 (voluntarily causing hurt to a public servant) of Indian Penal Code against unknown people. Police said that no case was registered with regard to the burqa row as none of the students lodged a formal complaint with the police.

Speaking to ‘Express’, college principal Y Annapurna said some students were annoyed about the discipline insisted by Vani Degree College for Women. “Some students are against the discipline followed in our college and want to make an issue out of nothing. From our side we will never insist on any student not to wear a burqa,’’ Annapurna clarified.

It is fun that the police took case against unknown persons!. They will piss in their own pants even at the though of booking case against any known person for obvious reasons. In India law and order agencies dread the word communal riot - the painful memories of 1947 partition  is still lingering in the minds of Indians. The unknown persons know the terror tactics very well and are planning to make maximum use of the situation.

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asif_khan

To know the advantage of burqa in current life , click the following link

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/naqaab-and-burqa-banned-western-countries

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asif_khan

To know the advantage of hijaab ,which is adopted by all non muslims click the following link.

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/naqaab-and-burqa-banned-western-countries

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israeli.agent

Interesting article, Irawwan, and Great informative comments asif_khan.

I saw the benefits of  wearing the burqa and naqaab. In that case would not the entire world be wearing this kind of costume?


The benefits of wearing such costume is given here, in this article - For your information and broadcasting.

Pressurized Atmosphere.
Oxygen.
Carbon Dioxide.
Temperature.
Micrometeoroids.
Radiation.
Clear Sight.
Mobility Within the Spacesuit.
Communications.
Mobility.


My two paise.


.Agent.

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asif_khan

Thanks Isreli Agent , If you can afford that kind costume ,If you are comfortable and sure that It  has no side effects then you can wear that kind of costume.

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israeli.agent

It is not a question of who can affort, Asif. I saw the a thick piece of cloath (in English 'face mask' , in Arabic 'naqab' can give limited protection against swine flue, according to your link. Then my question is why should the whole world benefit from the full NASA suit which gives complete  and absolute protection from a much wider spectrum of ill things humans face?

Don't ask me to be selfish. I want the not only me, but the whole world get benefited from the suit.

If the particular country flag is the turn-off, we can easily replace it with a crescent of a David's star or hell, even a swastika.Don't you think?


.Agent.

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asif_khan

Friend my answer will be the same , I will only replacing  the word 'you' with 'people' i.e If the people  can afford that kind costume ,If  the people are  comfortable and sure that It  has no side effects then every body can wear that kind of costume.

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info.star

Salaam,

not quite sure what the referance to the space suite was all about, must be a joke. Yes thats it.

Obviously far too advanced for my understanding, never mind, one day ahh.

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