Canadian Conservatives Suggest O Canada Anthem Be Gender Neutral

by Barry ORegan | March 4, 2010 at 07:18 am
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The Conservative government is considering revising Canada's national anthem to make it gender neutral and replace "all thy son's command" by restoring it to its original and inclusive "thou dost in us command."

Canada's national anthem has remained virtually unchanged since Robert Stanley Weir's 1908 version. The recent medals won by Canadian women in the 2010 Olympics warrant special mention, but are our stumbling under-the-breath renditions what has inspired the alterations? 

Opposition MPs said they have no problem with reconsidering the wording, but that they also want the government to take more concrete action to encourage the equality of women in Canada.

Those gender-neutral words were replaced when a different version of Weir’s poem was chosen as the country’s official anthem in the 1980 National Anthem Act:

A parliamentary committee will be asked to study the issue and make a recommendation on how to proceed.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said the government should "do something real," rather than merely symbolic.”

According to the Vancouver Sun, Ignatieff criticized the Conservatives for stripping the goal of “equality” out of the mandate of the Status of Women, and also for killing the Liberal plan to create a national child care program after they won power in 2006.

Many Canadians feel there are better ways to honour those special Olympians and all women who make us proud. Perhaps actions should speak louder than words when putting women on equal ground, giving women equality when it comes to equal pay for equal work (women earn 70 cents for every dollar a man earns).  That's a tune we should all live by.

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Hugh Askew

"Using a gender neutral word dishonours both men and women."
Nothing else need be said.

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Barry ORegan

Thanks, I thought so too.

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Amy Judd

I never even thought about this before and I'm female. I say leave it alone, there's no need to tamper with something just for the sake of it.

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Hugh Askew

Thanks for tipping us off ; )

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Rory Cripps

Barry: Thanks libby for being politically correct! I always knew that you'd see the light some day and admit the error of your ways!

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Bradley

Change for the sake of change, Do you really think the Feds care? This is just allowing them to get other laws/changes put through while we are focusing on this.I for one will sing it the way it is now.Think about the cost of changing it, in all books, recording across the world....who pays for that with our 16 Billion dollar deficit?

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marianmo

i wonder why the cons want to do this at this time surely the economy and job creation is of more concern...as a person who fought for pay equity and the rights of women teachers to become principals and supervisors i want the anthem left as it is...talk about smoke and mirrors get with the program mr harper

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ProudCanadian

Pile of crap. Oh Canada is just fine the way it is...spoken like a true Canadian woman, eh.

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Albert Milliron

Oh Com'on Oh Canada!  This is your conservatives?

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Eric Sandeson

Sons in that matter is for all the Canadians that fought to keep us free.That means men and women. Plus if you have any other problems think about the other two verses that is in it that has been taken away due to Religious meaning to it

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Mary Richard

I think I learned "all our hearts command," not "all thy son's command."  If it's going  to be changed, that's what it should be.

I can only imagine how that "tongue-twister" would sound.  Come on, let's try it in unison now .....  “O Canada! Our home and native land!  True patriot love thou dost in us command.”  Sounds like silliness to me!

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Fraser Hayward

If they change that to accomidate the lyrics to the song from all thy sons command to make it polittically correct then they might as well lfinish it and change the lyrics form we stand on guard for thee., because not all Canadians can not stand.

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158

When Canada has solved all other problems this could be something to discuss.  Until then leave it alone.

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anarkissed

Well I don't trust the motives behind it, but to me the idea seems sensible.  However, returning to archaic words would not be so effective.  current line:  "true patriot love in all our sons command."  Meaning, may you inspire patriotism in all our sons, especially if they must fight for our country.  These days, however, our daughters also qualify.  Why not instead of "true patriot lovethou dost in us command" we went with a similar phrase "true patriot love in all of us command."  After all, it matches for meter and rhyme, goes gender neutral, takes the onus upon the singer instead of the guy next to him, and is in modern english!

I didn't think up this variant, a local DJ on the radio did, but it would work!

As to the statement of gender neutral dishonoring both genders, huh?  Please elaborate, I don't understand why you think it's dishonoring.   Maybe you're just tired of having to learn new phrases, but ashamed to admit it?

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Barry ORegan

Thanks everyone for your comments, my statement that Using a gender neutral word dishonours both men and women."  makes us non entities, we are men and women, period!  What's next? Instead of  "Stand on guard for thee", replaced with "Criminals please, opps I mean please those of you who suffer from law and order deficit attention, please do not hurt us"!  Gimme a break, I think this Olympic size blunder won't win the conservatives any medals on the election podium that's for sure.


 

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Donovan

That's unrealistic and extreme. Men are labelled as men and women are labelled as women. Those are the distinctions of our time. No Canadian professions- whether it be law, politics, psychology, or corrections- refer to past or present convicts as those with a 'law and order deficit'. And definitely not a 'law and order deficit attention'.

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Donovan

Although you raise some good points and make an effort to present different views, the credibility of this article is compromised by the random statistic included in parentheses. Although women may very well make 70 cents per every dollar a man makes, without any citation or source of how you know this or how this is empirically proven the credibility and professional attitude of this article goes out the window.

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Barry ORegan

Well Donovan, methinks, a women's T-4 annual tax receipts of earnings is pretty good validation of my comments and proof.  I think most here especially women would agree! But then if one lives in his parents basement, eating cheeto's and fantasizing wearing Lt. Uhura's uniform as they tally how many Star Trek episodes they can squeeze into one day, perhaps work and a T-4 slip is beyond some people's comprehension?  But Hey thanks for the comments. Anyone wish to add to it?

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I think Donovan needs to open his eyes and ears and perhaps he can find the answer in the media or at the very least in a Stats Canada site. 

Donovan I think you missed the point of Barry's remarks.  He said we had bigger fish to fry than to worry about lyrics in our National Anthem ("in all thy sons command").  Looking for stats on pay equity just diverts from the issue. 


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Donovan

www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/75-001-x/01201/4095957-eng.htmlIf you or the author manage to read this document, the ENTIRE document, then you'll be quite embarassed. Funny how you own source disproves your point. Seeing as 70% is an American statistic and hasn't been transferable since 1997, when women made 73% of a male's income in Canada. That was 13 years ago. The above document will show the actual statistics and explain why the much smaller gap than you're falsely portraying is the way it is. And my ability to acquire proven facts rather than shouting disproven statistics is the result of my moving out of my parents house, getting a psychology degree, and learning how people like the author often attempt to mask their ignorance by use of social manipulation and rousing. What he is doing is what Freud called projection, and it's not a good thing.Sorry for making you both look foolish. I don't show facts to insult; you did that to yourselves.

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megan17281223

I think it should be changed, it was the first one after all. It's a little embarassing that our anthom has inequality in it.

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iwantrights

your a whore you feminist

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ShinobiDJ

you guys lmaoif you only knew what "in all thy sons command" meansThy Son = Gods Son = Jesustrue patriot love, under the command of Jesusthis isnt to be gender neutral,  its one more step of removing Jesusto Dost  in us command?   "Do as we command?"so we are supposed to accept the law of the government over the law of Jesus?id rather have my head removed

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iwantrights

well said my friend...well said... Godlessness will ruin this country

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Barry ORegan

Thanks for the comments everyone, here is my companion piece to this story where it is revealed who instigated this change the name game which infuriated Canadians. Tories flip flop changes to the national anthem



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iwantrights

It's getting harder every day to be a proud Canadian, first they take the Lord's prayer out of schools to accommodate foreigners rights and now this. What about the rights of the Canadian people that have been here for decades. Now a bunch of feminists want to re-write Canadian history by changing the anthem, like men didn't fight in the war to give us this country we have today. Being in America for the last 10 days on vacation it was awesome to see people patriotic for their country and not petty petty people trying to get rights, rights, and more rights for themselves... If you don't like Canada you have the "right" to go back to where you came from.

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Sassy070810

THNK YOU FOR BEING A TRUE CANADIAN

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