China's Year Of Disasters Breeds Discontent

Ur desciption is very realistic and productive .Thank u !

It's true that we chinese people learn something from this disaster .

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Shoddy construction equates to not having the money to do it right, so what does one do? Do nothing? Better to have some sort of roof even shoddy, than nothing is the outlook.

So people are suppose to go and do work for free in China? Steal tools from each other? Steal others means of transportation, such as bikes, and motorcycles, which are the highest theft articles? How to do the work with no tools? Blame the government? Which government?  The imperfect Chinese Government or the Lying Murdering American Government?

There are so many people here in China, trying to get anything done is major task in itself. Simply getting to the bank to stand in lines takes the entire morning or afternoon. Blaming the leadership in Beijing has nothing to do with it. If China suddenly became a Democracy overnight and the Private Sector was granted all its hearts desire, there would still be the same problem, and I dare say worse than it is now. Earthquakes would still happen, and the poverty would still be amongst them.

Who are you John? A disaster happens and the first thing people do is blame the government! What is it with people in not understanding that nothing is perfect in this world, no governement is better than the other, and really the only thing we do have is each other to try and make life a little better for each other, until the next disaster strikes.

Instead we kick people when they are injured, level insults toward leaders trying to make a difference in helping the people, and sit back and think how slick and superior we are for writing such a well thought out article in bashing China.

Well you know what? You are wrong, and something is really messed up in your head as well.

And so Americans are not rich greedy hoarders as you accuse the Chinese Government as being? Americans are not the ones who have started the expanse into China? America is not the one who has China dog chained to the world energy prices? You are wrong John.

How do the poor pay for gas to do construction projects? They can't compete. The dollar is 7 xs more than the yuan, and so you can see the problem just in obtaining energy. You think the rich Chinese really are rich? They are poor compared to American money. It would take 1000 Iraq War debts that the US has compiled to equate helping even half of the poor people in China. Sichuan is but a speck of the entire population that lives in poverty..... Education is another issue and another big hurdle that costs billions, never mind the construction costs. Never mind the road building, and electrical energy consumption that would take place. It is so massive, you have not really seen China....to go on your way to bashing it.

It's easy to bash, its much harder to try to do something constructive to make positive change. And that's where the struggle is.

I see the comparison now; China has crappy buildings because they don't have the money to pay for high energy fuel cost in construction and labor, and so the buildings fall down during an earthquake, but Americans have very fine standards, so fine in fact that the price of homes in America is so high that nobody can afford living in them. In fact 65% of Americans have been evicted because of the inability to make payment on their mortgages. So they are swept away by tornado winds, wild fires, Katrina Hurricanes, and left under bridges to die natually.

Who creates the jobs in China John? You? There is a billion plus people. America can't create jobs for it's 250 million Stateside, and we are to believe the rhetoric you dish out on China as being debunked and a twisted country ruled by Commies as the reason to their plight?

Think again John...It's not about government, its not about who is better, its about who can help who in this life regardless of our situation. And that means doing it without a gun in one hand, and bible in the other.

For most Chinese, when they hear in the news of government spending in preparation for the Olympics (35 or 40 billion dollars), one thing that they know for sure is that those sums of money are not hitting their pockets. It is an enormous amount of government spending -- some would say waste -- and, it is not going to them. At a time when China needs humanitarian relief, the Olympic spending breeds resentment. The Chinese government is also the butt of grumbling on four more earthquake-related issues.

.....And so you suggest they should not have granted the Olympics to China? You suggest that, that money spent is a waste because it was unable to give everyone in China a piece of the action? And so perhaps all countries should have extra cash laying around for emergencies not expected right?  I find the tasks China is up against quite tremendous, and very unbelievable that they are still moving forward. Instead of acknowledging China is doing its best, you guys just keep bashing and pounding until the sky turns red! Let's see you sing such a tune, if America had a over a billion in population, and were forced to pay 7 x's more money for a liter of gas for their bike, or construction equipment. You can't even do it with 250 million people. You've been at the game for over 230 years, and all you have is death and cemetaries, with Armies guarding your own madness.

First, some people feel that the government could have predicted the quake and provided warning to residents. Chinese officials were able to predict and warn residents in Haicheng to evacuate, one day in advance of its earthquake in 1975. In advance of this year's quake, a self-described seismologist posted a warning on the Internet, but government officials dismissed the post as rumor. It said, "I predict China will have an earthquake on May 12, 2008. The approximate location will be in the middle of Sichuan and Hubei, though all China may feel the tremors." Now, angry bloggers are expressing sentiments such as- "Why should we tax-payers spend money on you high officials in the National Seismology Bureau? The head of the National Seismology Bureau should resign from his position." Another blogger, less polite, said "The China Earthquake Administration should die.".......Just like the Bush Administration with Katrina right in not being able to warn the people of the Hurricane......yet China certainly appears to be doing more to bring relief to its people than the Bush people did in Louisiana.

Second, it is very suspicious when a new building collapses while older buildings around it stand. A report in the Globe and Mail cites a local construction worker with knowledge about the Juyuan Middle School in Dujiangyan, which collapsed upon 900 students. "Local officials...pocketed money that was budgeted for the school, while a private construction company had saved money by cutting corners on the project....To boost its profits, the company used iron instead of steel in many parts of the construction of the building. It cut back on the size and number of steel braces in the cement foundation slabs. And it used cheap materials to make the concrete walls, weakening the entire structure. The supervising agencies did not check to see if it met the national standards."

......Again who pays for construction when fuel prices are and have been going through the roof? What stop building, and have nothing for students? Then what?  Blame the government for not making something for students to be in? What? always think there will be an earthquake tomorrow, so stop building if there are no materials? Oh I see......that very material was the stuff they junked from the World Trade Center that was shipped to China as scrap, from beloved Mayor Rudy Guiliani of New York City. So they used it in construction for the house that Jack Built as a school, that ultimately collapsed again from shoddy materials, people are unable to afford because of the high price of fuel.

Third, the occasion of this earthquake is bringing renewed attention to China's "one child per couple" policy. It is a hideous policy which has led to human rights abuses such as forced abortions and sterilizations -- and steep fines for families which are out of compliance. The children killed in this earthquake tend to be "only" children, meaning that they are the entire progeny of their parents. Western news reports have highlighted the cruelty of this situation, and the earthquake will lead to calls for ending the one child policy, as well they should.

......Have you been to China John? And I don't mean Beijing. Have you actually been to the rural out areas? People breed like rabbits, mice. In my view it is an epidemic. They need to do something. In fact they should reward people to not have any children, and begin a policy of no children for families, because there are too many people. They are not educated and the only thing they know how to do is have sex. You want to talk to them John? You think they will listen to you John? Oh you don't know the language? Well who's fault is that? I see its better to knock and bash the Chinese government right?

Fourth, the government is in trouble with the Chinese democracy movement. The China Support Network has remarked, "Premier Wen Jiabao visited the disaster area, and promised that 100,000 troops would be used in the relief efforts."That's remarkable, because when it was time to shoot unarmed protestors out of Beijing's Tiananmen Square, the government called out 300,000 troops. Let's compare these numbers, 100,000 versus 300,000. Tiananmen's massacre took three times as many troops!

.....Now I don't see you saying much about GW Bush here killing thousands of innocent families in Iraq over a lie about going to war. And yet that miserable piece of Political dog s@^% is still spewing his venom across the globe.What's funny is that Deng Xiao Ping was the leader then, not Hu Jin Tao. And Deng Xiao Ping was pro democracy. Oh you didn't know that? So what you are saying is that a pro democracy leader ended up shooting down pro democracy demostrators, kind of like in the USA with Kent State right? Better make sure you get your bash rant straight.

"So now, we can see the government's priorities. Today's disaster is important, but only one-third as important as stopping democracy and free speech! And, if the government has the capacity to call out 300,000 troops, it suggests that two-thirds of them are idle right now. Have they got their feet on the desk while China reels from disaster?"

Next thing you know John you are going to say China government created the earthquake...with secret bombings in key locations to intentionally bring attention to China government in bringing heroic efforts in helping the people....kind of like how Bush demolished the WTC and blamed terrorists to make him look good in the public eye in waging a lie to go to war right?

In imperial China, earthquakes traditionally signaled the end of a corrupt dynasty. This earthquake has done no favors for the corrupt regime of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The people have growing anger, and lower expectations, for the CCP on the basis of this, the latest in a long sequence of Chinese disasters.

I will laugh the day that Democracy comes to rescue China. You have brainwashed the West so much that people who live in the US will never come to China. You only think Democracy comes by going to war, and killing millions to people. There are more people who are not in government that support China who do not want your lies and political bs....thinking Democracy is going to save China is like thinking it is saving America. America is clearly in worse shape than China, by any stretch of the imagination.