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by Babel-Fish | October 25, 2009 at 02:41 pm
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A bishop is calling on Christians to wear crosses in public to demonstrate they "aren't going to disappear quietly from the market place".
The Bishop of Lichfield, the Rt Rev Jonathan Gledhill said Christians should wear them at work and not be intimidated into putting them away.
He also criticised councils which tried to "rebrand Christmas" for fear of offending other religions.
Such decisions were made out of "sheer ignorance," he said.
"Ethnic minorities are far more anxious about the rampant secularism and commercialism that erodes all Christian standards than they are about their host country properly celebrating its Christian foundations," he said.
The Lichfield Diocese serves Staffordshire, north Shropshire, and parts of the West Midlands.
At guess his church flock has dwindled and of course there is that worry about local Muslim politicians taking over the political power in the West Midlands. The point is that being a christian in United Kingdom is more of that's what I write on a form thing. The common thoughts of members of the Church of England. Well I believe there must be a higher authority but I am not sold on the Christian faith really. Religion is just not taken that seriously by the white European indigenous citizens that declare themselves members of the Church of England.
However it does not matter to them what councils do concerning re-branding Christmas. For they will have the best Christmas holiday they can afford and send out Christmas cards by the dozen. Christmas will never die even when Christianity eventual does. It's a main British holiday a celebration that has a long history its a time to drink and be merry.
Happy Christmas.
From an atheist... lol
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at 14:57 on October 25th, 2009
Its actually very hard to re-brand the British Christmas its become a time of drink and be merry and the best holiday break of the year. We have been celebrating this holiday since pagan times and all other religions join in the festival. I enjoy Christmas, the turkey and the pud then watching children's faces when they open the presents. Even the carol singers its a time of happiness that this atheist enjoys. They can rename it but it does not take out the fact those that enjoy it will greet everybody with "Happy Christmas". That to me is politically right, lol
at 02:07 on October 26th, 2009
Sorry, booked solid giving out candy and small toys to the local kids and some rice to the poorest members of the Barangay (Village). Of course I will also be to drunk Christmas eve to fly my sledge (I don't drink and drive). lol
at 21:12 on October 25th, 2009
The Cross is an ancient symbol the Christian took from the Nordic Clans of the Scandinavian and German Tribes, this symbol represented the Northern Star and could be fund in most flags until WWI, today it is still in all Scandinavian Flags, the Swiss and british flag. Those Germanic and Scandinavian tribes chared one common religion as well, until the Christian Roman forced Christianity upon Europe by decree.
Until the 7th century the Christian symbol was the Fish and not the Cross.
Christian rulers took the Cross as well as many other Germanic and Scandinavian symbol and integrated those into their religion because they had a hard time trying to force those out of the Germanic and Scandinavian tribes. So in a way those symbols are perverted and stolen, yet have nothing to do with Christianity at all.
Same goes for many Islamic symbols that are Persian and from other religions that Islam obliterated in the same fashion then Christianity did.
Neither religions are worth pursuing in light of their history and intolerance towards any believe that may not be with in their own mind set. Same would be true for Judaism to some extend.
at 01:14 on October 26th, 2009
I think All religious dress should be outlawed in every country. It only breads hatred,intollerance,loathing,despisement,& murderous intent (peace be upon you) or armageddon (god and "erranous ones reconciled")to those that dont follow ones;set of religious delusions. But if we have the right of freedom of worship;i think ill "Ressurect" an ancient religion practised by millions in history. Its called Ba-al worship;there will be falanx's to wear arround ones neck;hot sexy tight pvc basques and such.Temples will be built accross the globe and there will be a priest who will lead the congregation. There will be 13 Priestesses that will provide temple services ( ;-) ) with just a small $50-$100 charge for temple admittence. what you think? Please donate to rebuild this ancient religion at www.awaytogetitlegal.con.dom
at 02:09 on October 26th, 2009
However even pagans can have a good time at Christmas.
at 02:17 on October 26th, 2009
Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists et al can do what they like and believe in what they like.What they CANNOT do is to bring their religious beliefs into the way we run this country.I vote for (I hope) sensible, rational people to Educate me, protect me, and keep me healthy. I do NOT vote for people because of their religious beliefs, and neither should you! Religion belongs in their private domain, not in mine.
at 06:12 on October 26th, 2009
And this is the cross we bear each day as the Lord did for us. The cross represents the instrument that Christ died on...to later then rise from the dead. It was done to pay for our sins. Why Christians wear the cross? To remember the work and suffereings we do each day for one another. Some like the LDS Church dislike the cross..because they compare it to an electic chair..But in fact the cross is much more profound and authentic....in that if Jesus can defeat the death on the cross our faith in him we will also defeat this. We all have our own crosses to carry in life....I do believe in the Lord....and I do have a cross.....
The problem in America is that they claim to support freedom of religion..but that means you must have a government that is nonreligious in stature...This so called neutrality is the down fall of a country... How can we say such things? Its like saying you have a hand without any fingers? This is my church and this is my steeple...open the door and there are the people... Ugh! no people? In fact what has happened in the US is there are many religions that are anti-military and the people that go to church are forced to pay in taxes money to the Fed.Governments Military Machine.. In fact there is no freedom of religion in the US...
The Federal Government in the US does have a Religion in the Government it is called the MIC... Military Industrial Complex. The reason so many religions exists is because people do not want to be controlled by other Religions or the Government..so they setup their own little Congregation or purpose...As I do.....I believe the family is the center of religion. My home is my Church...and we do things with kindness and wellness and purpose.. There is no government in my house because we do not identify with the military. It is not a matter of Separation of Church and State....it is a matter of the State has made Religion its enemy..
Therefore the State always fails...and is always at war..
I say we as a people need to get rid of the State.....
The Rev.
at 17:39 on October 27th, 2009
I say that War is not fought in the name of God. That is something fools say who run the Military.
The Rev.
at 15:47 on October 28th, 2009
The christian god Yahweh was originally the Jewish God of war. (food for thought).
at 10:43 on October 26th, 2009
Majority rules in a democracy
at 11:31 on October 26th, 2009
well,every religion;is about controll,dominance(hmm);telling others how to live their lives,ect ect ect. Tell me;God,all powerfull,all wise,all knowing....what he need slaves for???He dont. The priest say he do so they can controll;You;that believe their bulltish. a religion says kill 3 billion infadels & youll goto heaven & have 1000 wives. Wtf do anyone want to goto heaven for????? why did god even make coporial life,if he wished all to be sitting on a metaphorical cloud saying graces???? How ngkcifu Boring.... The 1000 wives is a pleasent thaught though :-) but You only need 1 if Your Capable;if Your not then Yeah they will lose interest in You so,youll need 1000 so by time you've attempted to love No 1000;No 1 will have forgoten how crap You are,and be desperate by then. Religion is the cause of so much murder,pain and mental distress for so many. e.g. catholic priests say a baby who died un babtised stays in a place called purgatory. Buddists believe people who are disabled,or recieve terrible things upon them;i.e. being abused as a child,is because they did something wrong in their past lives. What a load of BULLSHIT You EVIL Bastards. I Say we destroy every religion,then we can all live in peace,or at least not be fighting & hurting eachother will a load of lies and delusional thaughts;that actually do harm to people. And on that note,why are the priest;or what ever they want to call themselves,not locked up under the mental health act????? Hope my language not offended anyone & Hope my hatred toward all religions Has offended everyone who is "Religious" :P But thats the difference;religions hate "Everyone";I just Hate "Religions"
at 18:07 on October 27th, 2009
No every Religion is created because people have different ideas of God. Each has their own agenda and philosophy. The trouble is philiosophy has no concrete proof that God truely approves their religion. God certainly has shown he exists..due to the order of life and how it revolves....it is the wars caused by the seeking of riches, and the greed that Kings, and nonbelevolent leaders have bestowed to attain their level of egoism.
God does not want slaves, but God is a slave to us. Think of all the people in the world who need him...and without...no food...no air....no life. Priests do not seek to control you....that is the true Priests to God. They merely seek homage and alms as all beggars we the people are....to promote the goodness of God through them. Nothing is wrong with that....
Actually a 1,000 wives is not pleasant..it is an example of lust and deception. In fact the only reason we have the husband wife situation is because of the human condition...in having procreation.. Our real energy and saintly thoughts do not come from that sphere of institution. God is above Man.....and is why he is here yet we can't see him.....so we can't lust over his picture. He is the proven life that has given us faith to use faith in seeing that our Christain life is lived in moral and upon the pursuit of good intentions.
Myself I claim to be a Priest, but I never ask anyone for money, nor espect myself to do someone elses alms giving. It is up to each person to be responsible for this.
I do not know about the claim Catholics make saying babies are in purgatory if not baptised...I would contend when we are baptised we are still in purgatory...And the Buddhist religion does not believe that cripple people come here because of past transgressions.. I know many buddhists...and that is not true.
Your hate for religion is because you are afraid and you fear. You see hatred is really rooted in fear.. The fear is believing in something you can not see and if unable to see; how can that be understood... So it is rejected by you.....but in fact you came from God....and you know that you don't understand....and so your existence is hate... My sense is you do not want to live in the hate existence...yet you can not understand God....so you are trapped.....and instead blame God and the Religions as the problem instead of yourself.
Wish you well.
The Rev.
at 11:38 on October 26th, 2009
P.S. people often follow a religion,because they are looking for something more to life and existance & they think they found it in religion :-( "You need only to,look into Yourself" if its something spiritual You looking for. If its something "Physical" then study "Quantum Mechancs";"String Theory";"Astro Physics";"Astro Biology";"General Physics" & "Biology" Live Long,With Happiness!
at 17:33 on October 26th, 2009
And of course Atomism and its Babel Fish additive theory, yep I publish a theory and its atoms that run this universe and its nature. Looking for a creator, well get out the micro scope, lol