Colonel Russel Williams Still Eligible for His Military Pension

by Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke | October 15, 2010 at 11:59 am
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Colonel Russel Williams, the disgraced Base Commander of CFB Trenton, will still be eligible for his military pension if convicted.

The Human Resource Minister, Diane Finley has introduced a bill that would cut Old Age Security Pensions (OAS) from convicted criminals.  The bill has passed second reading and is now being studied by a parliamentary committee.

Prime Minister Harper pointed out that the military pension of Colonel Russel is a contractual obligation and a pension that Colonel Russell paid into.

Russell has admitted to two murders, 2 sexual assaults and 82 break ins.  He is expected to plead guilty on October 28th to all counts.  His military pension is estimated at $60,000.

One would think that after Russell is convicted there would be an administrative review that would decide his disposition, which will lead to dismissal from the Canadian Forces.  Whether or not the flexibility exists to reduce him in rank to 2nd Lieutenant remains to be seen.

Captain Robert Semrau, who was convicted of Disgraceful Conduct, was dismissed from the Canadian Forces and reduced in rank.  If his conduct for taking a wounded Afghan Insurgent out of his misery was disgraceful, surely Colonel Williams's conduct was disgustingly disgraceful.

Let's hope that the possiblity exists to strip him of his rank and at least reduce his pension.

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Florence Sheehan

I agree that Colonel Williams should be stripped of his rank as well as his pension should be lower to the lowest rank.....He is a disgusting example of a human being...Caption Robert Semrau has done nothing as gruesome as what Williams did......Colonel Williams should be dismissed from the Canadian Froces....for all his disgusting acts of violences......In my opion I don't think Caption Robert Semrau should have ever been charged for disgraceful conduct or for that matter been discharged from the Canadain Forces.............I would like to see Colonel Williams get the stiffest penalty the law will provide him to get......

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

That would be my thought as well.  If it's good for Semrau it's also good for this individual. 

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Marcy McPherson

I knew there was a reason I avoided watching the news.  Not having watched it recently, I tuned in to discovery that a murdering rapist would be receiving his pension.  A pension that he paid into no doubt, but a pension that Canadian citizens will be responsible for topping up while he's in custody.  In my opinion, as a Canadian citizen, it would be highly unconscionable to allow this to happen.  He committed some of these crimes while on duty, scoping out his next victims.  His position in the military and the training he received more than likely gave him the tools to commit these crimes and remain undetected for several years.  I, as an average Canadian, will admit that I complain about things in this country that I see are unfair or unjust and simply do nothing about it, except complain.  Not this time.  I encourage everyone who views this particular heinous unjustice to start calling people.  Members of Parliament, government officials, military officials, co-workers, neighbours, friends.  Let's get together and not let this happen.   If the money has to be paid out, it should go to victims of crime, not one who perpetrates them.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

This is definitely an approach that can work.  It would probably require an amendment to the Act that regulates these pensions.  

I don't think he started this while in the military though, he had to have had this perverted addiction long before he joined the military.  I think we haven't seen everything yet. 

Thanks for your comments and I would endorse a writing campaign that you suggested.



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Piobar

I agree a demotion, preferably a substantial one, is in order. And his pension being paid out at a lower rate is equally justified. But to strip the pension away in total would set a dangerous precident. He has paid into it, and serving in the military does not diminish his rights. I agree that his actions are disgusting, and am of the opinion that the crimes he has commited, and the damage he has done to the reputation of the CF are acts for which there is no punishment strong enough in this country. Bring back flogging in this case, and I could support it. But if you can strip this man of his pension, what next? Every citizen convicted of a crime loses their pensions which they have paid into through work? Too many parking tickets and you lose financial security?

What happened to Capt. Semrau was a travesty. What this man did was a bigger one. However, all Canadian citizens, no matter their career path, have certain rights, which in the eyes of the law are immutable. Lets not start stripping those rights away from anyone, soldiers, police officers, or average citizens; because it is those rights that help make Canada such a great nation.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

It.s certainly a slippery slope, although the urge is there to really punish him, one must consider society as a whole.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

It.s certainly a slippery slope, although the urge is there to really punish him, one must consider society as a whole.

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Klod Binette

His pension should stay the same, but ALL OF IT given to programs that help rape victims and such. A book and movie deal should be done with ALL MONEYS also given to programs for  victims, and families.As for him? May he rot in hell.

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