Courts will stay open after hours to preform Gay Marriages, What happened to the 14th Amendment?

by politisite | June 16, 2008 at 02:42 pm | 617 views | 10 comments | 15 recommendations

Courts will stay open after hours to preform Gay Marriages, What happened to the 14th Amendment? By Albert N. Milliron, Editor, Politisite.com OP-ED

I have alway by an advocate of those disenfranchised and loving it when they prevail in court. Our war between the states had many premises but in Lincolns mind is was but one.

"Slavery is founded in the selfishness of man's nature -- opposition to it is in his love of justice. These principles are an eternal antagonism; and when brought into collision so fiercely, as slavery extension brings them, shocks, and throes, and convulsions must ceaselessly follow. Repeal the Missouri Compromise -- repeal all compromises -- repeal the declaration of independence -- repeal all past history, you still can not repeal human nature. It still will be the abundance of man's heart, that slavery extension is wrong; and out of the abundance of his heart, his mouth will continue to speak. " --October 16, 1854 Speech at Peoria

Lincoln knew that the constitution was flawed by setting the house of Representatives when Article three apportioned the number of, "Other Persons" as three fifths a man. Basically calling Blacks only 60%

Clause 3: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. - Source The united States Constitution.

Following the Civil war there were 3 amendments to the constitution making sure that all persons received equal protection under the law.

You may think that I will be going on a rant why Gays have been considered persons or less and that this California ruling is correct. Well I will not as, equal protection means just that, equal protection.

How many folks think OJ Simpson got a fair ruling in his trial? How about William Blake? It appears to me that equal protection means the best defense money can buy. Is that the Spirit of the Fourteenth Amendment?

The problem in todays society is not health care for all but equal legal representation for all. How about that as a political platform? Will the Dems take it? Heck no. Nearly every democrat I know is a trail lawyer. How about the Republicans? Not they want to stick with the Status Quo. Universal legal for all will keep the big guys from winning and the little guy to get a fair chance at the Blind Scales of Justice.

Now starting today, Gays will be able to walk into a California court, after hours, and get married. Can you heterosexual couples do that? The fourteenth Amendment says, Equal protection under the law. Simply put, no special hours for gays. The ninth district of California has by passed the will of the people and overturned your decision for a Man and a woman to get married.

Can I ask why a Gay person wants to get married? Isn't that a Biblical thing? What I see today is like the constitution folks pick and chose the bible verses that they like and nix the rest.

Homosexuality is right up there as Paul outs it with the major sins like murder. So why do you want to be married? To commit your life to God and follow his Commandments? Na its all about getting something based on status.

So I would like for hero-sexual around California to go and try to get married. You will be turned away. So what happened to the 14th Amendment?

California weddings one more step on long road

When Senior Assistant Attorney General Christopher Krueger was leaving home to represent the state in opposing same-sex marriage during a historic hearing before the California Supreme Court in March, his wife kissed him on the lips and said, "Good luck, but I hope you lose."

He did. The justices voted 4-3 in May to strike down the state's ban on same-sex marriage.

Since then, some of Krueger's colleagues have teased him with remarks like, "Congratulations. We know you lost, but we liked the result."

These ideological fissures in Krueger's household, among his co-workers in the attorney general's office and even within the gay community itself echo society's deep split over same-sex marriage.

This evening, some county clerks in California will stay open late to start issuing marriage licenses and officiating the exchange of vows for gay and lesbian couples - the first of thousands of same-sex marriages expected in the coming days.

It's a bold step that has been hailed by many gay-rights advocates as a significant milestone while being attacked by opponents as an unmistakable sign of societal decay.

As of Friday evening, 646 same-sex couples had booked appointments to get marriage licenses at San Francisco City Hall over the next 10 days - one couple will be wed just after 5 p.m. today, and there are 165 appointments and dozens of same-sex marriage ceremonies at City Hall set for Tuesday.

Gay-rights leaders hope the landmark California Supreme Court decision will set off a chain reaction that will influence other states to legalize gay marriage.

But the latest wave of same-sex marriages may be short-lived. The court's ruling could be undone when California voters are asked on Nov. 4 to decide an initiative sponsored by conservative religious and legal organizations. It would revise the California Constitution to prohibit same-sex marriages by defining marriage as a union "between a man and a woman."

It is, and will continue to be, one of the most politically volatile debates of our time.

Equal Protection Clause

The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall… deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal" by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.

California weddings one more step on long road

When Senior Assistant Attorney General Christopher Krueger was leaving home to represent the state in opposing same-sex marriage during a historic hearing before the California Supreme Court in March, his wife kissed him on the lips and said, "Good luck, but I hope you lose."

He did. The justices voted 4-3 in May to strike down the state's ban on same-sex marriage.

Since then, some of Krueger's colleagues have teased him with remarks like, "Congratulations. We know you lost, but we liked the result."

These ideological fissures in Krueger's household, among his co-workers in the attorney general's office and even within the gay community itself echo society's deep split over same-sex marriage.

This evening, some county clerks in California will stay open late to start issuing marriage licenses and officiating the exchange of vows for gay and lesbian couples - the first of thousands of same-sex marriages expected in the coming days.

It's a bold step that has been hailed by many gay-rights advocates as a significant milestone while being attacked by opponents as an unmistakable sign of societal decay.

As of Friday evening, 646 same-sex couples had booked appointments to get marriage licenses at San Francisco City Hall over the next 10 days - one couple will be wed just after 5 p.m. today, and there are 165 appointments and dozens of same-sex marriage ceremonies at City Hall set for Tuesday.

Gay-rights leaders hope the landmark California Supreme Court decision will set off a chain reaction that will influence other states to legalize gay marriage.

But the latest wave of same-sex marriages may be short-lived. The court's ruling could be undone when California voters are asked on Nov. 4 to decide an initiative sponsored by conservative religious and legal organizations. It would revise the California Constitution to prohibit same-sex marriages by defining marriage as a union "between a man and a woman."

It is, and will continue to be, one of the most politically volatile debates of our time.

Equal Protection Clause[q url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause"]The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall… deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal" by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.[/q]

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BigT

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at 15:25 on June 16th, 2008

Equal protection? What about equal protection for polygamists? Or how about taking the same proportional amount from everybody's paycheck at tax time?

The only reason why this is even such a big issue is because the government has creeped into every facet of our lives. "Well, heterosexual who are married get tax breaks and have other rights that homosexual couples don't have" is the basic argument for gay marriage being thrust on everyone.

My own opinion on this matter is that the state should butt out when it comes to marriage. If your church wants to sanctify homosexual marriage, go ahead. We have the freedom of religion in this country and that is the arena gay marriage should stay in.

politisite

at 15:44 on June 16th, 2008

BigT, I added quite a bit more. I wasn;t touting EP for this Gay Marrige issue more about where has all our rights gone, Thanks for the comment

politisite

at 09:35 on June 18th, 2008

I like the way you put that. what is the state doing being united with religion? After alll those Liberals, sorry, progressives, fight for seperation of chuch and state, then do this. like you said because married people get tax breaks it sets up an argument of civil rights violations. And we wonder why Ron Paul did so well this election cycle. Get out of our lives!

djermano

at 22:45 on June 16th, 2008

Pretty sad day to think gays have equal rights. Might as well give equal rights to animals on the farm. Don't pigs and sheep have a right to get married too? Where are their equal status in the constitution? Gays are biased against normal people and discriminate against normal people, by being gay. They have a lot of nerve to say normal people discriminate against them.

If its OK for gays to marry, I wonder why they don't allow people to have more than one wife? And what do they call Gays that have more than one wife? Polygayamists?

I don't understand the world? We have people who marry the same sex, so why do we have different sexes? We have war, and people killing each other, so Gays think they are the vaccuum to stop war? I don't understand the ruling. I don't understand the reason for Gayness. They don't either is my take, and is why they support such a terrible idea.

Pehaps we should be married to all of society. I mean who really cares about marriage. We should all be roaming dogs going into any household we choose and say they are our wives and children and do anything we want right? This is madness, this is unhealthy I think. It is a lack of knowing right vs.wrong.

How can there not be rules to marriage? There are rules to everything. What are the rules to Gayness? To break the rules of good behavior and respect for humanity and real nature. Do animals committ gay acts? I have never seen it. Is it a freak of nature, kind of like a 2 headed cow, or a person with 3 eyes?

I have trouble accepting this idea of gayism. Certainly the Lord is not Gay, and he never taught it. Certainly most religions and societies throughout the world do not accept it. How can I accept this? I can not! I shall not! I won't.

The End

politisite

at 09:04 on June 17th, 2008

I uderstand your confusion. There is no Gay weddings in the bible I read. The story is really not about being gay and getting married. It is about preferred treatment, by keeping the courts open past 5 pm PT to marry only gay couples. That was my beef

Maireid Sullivan

at 20:25 on June 19th, 2008

Politisite, check out this informative wikipedia entry:

Maireid Sullivan

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at 20:42 on June 17th, 2008

politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff.

I've always believed marriage is for people who plan on having children. But, that said, I do appreciate that homosexual people are basically sacrificing reproduction in a time when the population is stressed. It might be some kind of human survival mechanism kicking in. Love without the need to worry about having babies. And, the pay off is disposable income is huge!

politisite

at 09:31 on June 18th, 2008

Or college. If I were a Gay man.. di di di di dum How I would be a rich man at last!

djermano

at 04:05 on June 18th, 2008

That is hardly an excuse to promote gayism Maireid. It is quite the opposite, because it promotes casual senseless sex which is not love. People do not know what love is. They are addicted to sex and call it love. Since women prefer less sex than men, addicted men seek each other out for sex. It is an addiction problem. Men are always the ones that seem to bring troubles into the relationship when they start to carouse for other partners. They want more sex..Bill Clinton comes to mind on this.

Woman become gay because they are sick and tired of the constant urges of men, and prefer less sex so they are the result of the inability of men to control their out of control addiction. The way to curb population growth is to have safe sex between men and women being together as couples. This stops the addiction.. Gayism is a sexual addiction that in my view is a medical and psychological problem.