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Dancing with the devil: Pakistan
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by YankeeJim | September 29, 2010 at 11:14 am
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How do you conduct sensitive diplomacy in a democracy like the USA? Answer is let it all hang out, apparently. The obvious contradictions in US foreign policy are apparent everywhere. We claimed we were against human right violations in China, yet we owe our souls to the communist regime.
We claimed we need Pakistan as an ally against terrorism, yet it has been patently clear Pakistan harbors terrorists and is a training ground for more.
We get caught up in contradictions all of the time because reasonable people try first to reason, even with their enemies. Yet, how long can this go on? The answer is case-by-case. It is give and take.
The Pakistan government has the dread nuclear weapons that can fall into the hands of terrorists seemly in a heartbeat. That’s why we are dancing.
The metaphor used in this article is Russian roulette. Keeping with the dance metaphor, I prefer “stomp.”
“Obama: 'We need to make clear to people that the cancer is in Pakistan'
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By Bob Woodward
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010; 3:03 AMThe third of three articles adapted from "Obama's Wars" by Bob Woodward.
President Obama dispatched his national security adviser, retired Marine Gen. James L. Jones, and CIA Director Leon Panetta to Pakistan for a series of urgent, secret meetings on May 19, 2010.
Less than three weeks earlier, a 30-year-old U.S. citizen born in Pakistan had tried to blow up an SUV in New York City's Times Square. The crude bomb - which a Pakistan-based terrorist group had taught him to make - smoked but did not explode. Only luck had prevented a catastrophe.
"We're living on borrowed time," Jones told Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari at their meeting in Islamabad. "We consider the Times Square attempt a successful plot because neither the American nor the Pakistani intelligence agencies could intercept or stop it."
Jones thought that Pakistan - a U.S. ally with an a la carte approach of going after some terrorist groups and supporting others - was playing Russian roulette. The chamber had turned out to be empty the past several times, but Jones thought it was only a matter of time before there was a round in it.
Fears about Pakistan had been driving President Obama's national security team for more than a year. Obama had said toward the start of his fall 2009 Afghanistan-Pakistan strategy review that the more pressing U.S. interests were really in Pakistan, a nuclear power with a fragile civilian government, a dominant military and an intelligence service that sponsored terrorist groups.
Not only did al-Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban operate from safe havens within Pakistan, but - as U.S. intelligence officials had repeatedly warned Obama - terrorist groups were recruiting Westerners whose passports would allow them to move freely in Europe and North America.”
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at 18:43 on September 29th, 2010
If the cancer is Pakistan, why have we been fighting for nine years in Afghanistan?
Could it have anything to do with oil and mineral wealth, pipeline routes, an endless war to fill the coffers of war profiteers?
Woodward's book presumes that the President runs America's foreign policy, and he never seems to entertain the notion that the "chain of command" with the President at the top of the security pyramid may be a quaint relic, since as far back as Nov. 22, 1963.
Obama's biggest victory to date was the deposing of McChrystal; he has gotten no credit for slowing what appears to be an ongoing coup d'etat attempt by a military-security-intel cabal. Is the media naive, entrained, or under the thumb of the cabal?
Obama's Wars? Listen to the domestic chatter. He's got enemies who are a lot closer than the Taliban and Al Qaeda (although as I recall it, Al Qaeda was American-backed at its birth).
(Off-topic to Jim: I think those sponsored links right under NP headlines gravely harm the editorial integrity of the entire operation. What say you?)
at 05:24 on September 30th, 2010
Smart comments Scrivener, thank you.
I think that NP will accept any source of revenue that it can attract.
I work hard to avoid grouping people into a lump, generalizing and such. The government of Pakistan has a well known history. It is shaky at best.
What is profound to me is that there are many bright and well educated people in Pakistan and the nation has produced scientific and academic achievements on par with some of the best in the world. The same can be said of Iran, for instance.
Yet, there is something troubling and destabilizing and contradictory in these nations that cause them to be misaligned with the free world. Obviously, it could have something to do with religious zeal and the commingling of church and state. It would be too limiting to stop there.
As obvious, the free world is intrusive in its quest for oil to fuel their economies. Imperialistic behavior aligned with capitalism have been an affront to Middle Eastern cultures. The combination of behaviors fuels the flames of hatred and mistrust and provides fertility for weeds of terrorism to flourish in what should be more peacefully productive soil., IMO.
at 12:24 on September 30th, 2010
Did you see Oliver Stone's Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps? The movie talks about a "fusion" energy process that could supply the world with inexhaustible cheap energy. The technology discussed in the movie talks about "lasers" but microwave scalar electromagnetic technology -- already deployed in the covert scalar microwave radio frequency directed energy weapon system installed on cell towers nationwide -- could supply endless free energy, and that technology exists and is operational right now -- unbeknownst to mainstream media and most lawmakers.
The companies holding patents on this technology (Raytheon and others) apparently are wihholding this technology exclusively for military use, and much of the civilian world, even in academia, knows nothing about it. U.S. intel psy ops deride scalar electromagnetics as voodoo science, which the military assuredly knows is not true at all. This technology is being used to wage an ideology-driven silent coup in America, I believe the evidence shows. I have revealed its domestic deployment in my articles -- a WMD in every neighborhood in America.
If true conservatives knew about the cover-up, and the danger to personal liberty and constitutional rights posed by the cabal that's behind the cover up and the silent coup, America could be saved.
I fear the technology already has "gotten to" Obama, in a literal sense. Read this, and my comments at the end where I ask whether Obama is the subject of ongoing electromagnetically-assisted entrainment, based on observable forensic evidence and my personal experience as a target of this technology. Try your sources in the IC; the bigs know all about this:
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
at 05:53 on October 1st, 2010
On going investigation
at 10:59 on October 3rd, 2010
I agree with you Scrivener. I have read your articles, and I'd say electromagnetic WMDs and surveillence techniques are being used on hapless citizens as far away as India. And these weapons aren't new phenomena. Most of them have been used here for years; but, sadly, a majority of the people are ignorant and don't recognize their ill effects. People in other coutries too have been victims (read surveillanceissues.com/). These weapons violate human rights - the right every human being has to a free and fair existence. The weapons only further the cause of a handful who want to create a utopian society, something on the lines of "A Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. Perhaps these select few want to reduce most others to serving robots and puppets. They've started well in advance, and I believe they already have a large section of the populace, especially those <18 years of age, under their control. Doesn't this prove they're control freaks? www.twitter.com/jivisha
at 11:18 on October 3rd, 2010
Who knows? These wars could just be a means to distract attention from the utopian-society agenda the select few have. By staging terror attacks and then wars, they try to prove that terrorists are a serious threat. The media helps them by running news stories and creating a hype around the attacks and wars. Soon the gullible public starts believing them. Many among us begin to think that the use of electromagnetic and surveillance weapons is justified and start supporting their use. And this gives the select few the opportunity to continue using their weapons on innocents - after each terror attack, more openly and with extra vigor. Mission accomplished <for the select few>.