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DEMOCRATS US AMNESTY BILL: "PIECE OF SHIT !"
Barry Artiste Op/Ed
Hey, those words are not mine, but Senate Minority Leader John Boehner in response to the Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reids undying mission to push Obama's Immigration legislation S-9 Amnesty Bill put into law. This bill has been bandied about for over a year, but now seems to be getting serious attention of becoming law, so much so, Republican Senators are reacting strongly against it.
The reaction to this bill, which previously was rejected may be finding favour, regardless what American citizens want, leaving Minority Leader John Boehner to shout "This Bill is a "Piece of Shit", heard echoing around the House and picked up by CNNs Lou Dobbs.
Whats next on the Obamaramadalilama Amnesty Train, no one knows, but it seems Ethnic Vote Grabbing is not just a Canadian Domain, it is also damn near impossible to get the exact rulings, news, democratic members and transcripts on this Amnesty Bill, so I invite our American Now Public Readers to browse their Congressmans Websites or Washington Websites and try and get more informatioin on this from reliable sources. I have provided additional information that I could find on this as it seems to just be a tantalizing tidbit of the following menu items du jour which would be served, or should I say RAMMED DOWN AMERICANS THROATS is just a small list of the following:
New Amnesty Bill... "A Piece Of Shit"? Or Perhaps The American Taxpayers Should Decide If it is ?
1. Illegal aliens given legal status just 24 hours after filing... even though background check will not have been completed in nearly all cases.
2. US tax payers will foot the bill for lawyers to represent illegal aliens.
3. While visas granted will be [technically] "temporary", they may be renewed indefinitely.
4. Alien gang members (estimated to be 30,000, minimum) qualify for amnesty simply by declaring they "don't want to be in a gang any longer".
5. US taxpayers will provide the money for "incentives to keep Mexicans in their own country"... like health care, education costs.
6. Aliens will pay no back taxes.
7. Aliens will qualify for the "earned income tax credit" by way of a check from the Government at taxpayer expense, though the illegal aliens will not be required to pay back taxes.
8.Instate college tuition given to aliens [a benefit which is denied to tax-paying, US citizens].
9. US/Mexico border fence reduced from 800 miles to 200 miles.
10. Etc. Etc. Etc.................
Below is CNNs Lou Dobbs review of the situation.
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
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at 12:18 on October 6th, 2009
Ah, But the bill is transparent. First you see it and then you don't. Or maybe it will be signed in invisible ink. and then the congress will disappear.
at 15:52 on October 6th, 2009
Tikun:
"Ah, But the bill is transparent."
I think that you're on to something here! Look what the congressional Democrats are doing with health care legislation. They're incorporating back door methods because their health care legislation can't stand up to legitimate scrutiny. I have no doubt that they'll use the same methods with amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Source: blog.heritage.org
at 12:32 on October 6th, 2009
Love it tikun...you are so right...and the best statement is having Congress disappear...now that would be a vanishing act...
at 12:35 on October 6th, 2009
Thanks Tik, seems harder than hens teeth to find it in its entirety, but then it took me a whole day to find our Canadian Hearing by the Liberals to lower the time period for immigrants to Canada to collect social security old age pensions from 10 years to 3 years whether they have worked in this country or not. Goes to show you back door politics Canadians and Americans are never privy to.
at 12:51 on October 6th, 2009
Good find Barry, at least we don.t have that problem in Canada. But the question is how do you deal with 11 Million illegals. You can.t just round them up and ship them back
at 18:15 on October 6th, 2009
According to news reports, many are leaving on their own, with all the jobs drying up, over 1 or 2 million last year, and many are also getting a free plane ride back to their home towns, or territory.
it is definitely cheaper to send them back than support them on the public dole, besides their taking the jobs, that Americans 'won't do'.
What a fallacy that is, personally saw in a small town in the mountains of Colorado, illegals taking jobs already taken. One white dishwasher fired, three illegals hired to do the same job for the same total pay. All the teenagers and college students out of jobs for the summer that they normally took.
They also put the local Ford dealership out-of-business. Guess how.
at 23:19 on October 6th, 2009
I dunno, but when they want to give amnesty to gang members who only have to say Sorry, we are not in a gang anymore, regardless of the crimes committed, I think it best to Grab, Bag, Tag, Ship, Deport or as in the Military vein SOS, but then that is just my opinion, and not being American it does not matter.
If they are serious about removing 11 million illegals it can be done, having lived in European countries including Moscow, Reservists are routinely used on the streets to conduct ID checks. Course many would be horrified to see Reservists used for this, but again if you are serious about removing illegals, it can be done. Greece has many flee their country for other EU countries like France etc, cause Greece catch you on thier home turf they will deport your ass pronto.
Like the Word says ILLEGAL means just that! Nothing else is left for interpretation!
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John Ant (not verified)at 13:26 on November 6th, 2009
You don't have the problem in Canada YET, but it's heading your way. Deport those who are here ILLEGALLY and tighten the border properly. Build a fence with warning signs in all languges and mine it. Sorry it has to come to that, but I'm sick of all those who don't understand the impact on the future of this country from the domino effect. What freaking part of illegal don't people understand? Especially are dummies in Washington. Maybe they'll finally get the message that your welcome here, but come Legally. By the way, if you think it's only 11 million, I've got some swamp land you might want to take a look at.
at 14:06 on October 6th, 2009
Barry: Thanks for the article.. put the headline in quotes for me so I don't think you are vulgar... oh maybe you are LOL
at 14:39 on October 6th, 2009
Barry: Interestingly enough, many "illegals" have gone back to Mexico due to the poor U.S. economy. As you know, illegal immigrants are viewed as a big problem by many American citizens and one of the major reasons why there's so much anger out there directed at both political parties. The Democrats want total and complete amnesty because they see it as increasing their voter base in addition to changing the complexion of America for the sake of "diversity". The Republicans see it as a source of cheap labor for their contributors in the business community. The Republicans (obviously not all) are also afraid of being labeled racists and anti-Hispanic and are also looking for the vote. Should the Democratic party get it's wish, I have no doubt that there will be a terrible shit storm in this country on the part of angry Americans and the anger that's been expressed recently at town hall meetings will pale in comparison. This is a hot-button issue for millions of Americans and those, particularly in the Southwest U.S., have had it up to their eyeballs even at this point.
at 20:17 on October 6th, 2009
Rory, I'm beginning to have a real problem with this broad accusative painting of Democrats and Republicans.
I'm a registered Democrat, yet I did not vote for BHO. I don't know any Republicans who employ 'slave' labor.
I don't support this amnesty, nor the healthcare bill. and I am outraged by all the bailouts and stimulus bills, etc.
I know many from both sides of the aisle who object to what our so-called 'elected' officials are doing in Washington.
Can't you see that the official parties no longer represent most of their registered voters? I don't know what you can call them, maybe the lobbyist-supported pack of senators, reps and president.
there are some very repulsive characters in Washington now.
at 03:42 on October 7th, 2009
Rene: Yes! I agree! I'm referring to the politicians and the political parties in the above--not individual voters. My only hope is that at some point, we can get a viable third party going. I know that many say it's impossible but I'm entitled to my fantasies! LOL! Both parties talk a different game, however when it comes down to it the reality is that there's very little "change".
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rdrabbit (not verified)at 20:39 on November 12th, 2009
Obama has done something secretly against us? The video you are listed is dated May 23nd, 2007. Attached is the actual transcript from that show. transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/23/ldt.01.html I believe none us even heard the name of Obama before then. In case everybody has forgotten, it was the Bush era that tried to push this on us. Unfortunately, there is bipartisanship between the Republicans and the Democrats on this issue. I side with the Arizona sheriff, send them home. If they can't come here legally, what makes us believe that they will live under the rules that we as a country have established. The email received is a viral and contains an outdated video aimed to implicitly stir up fear and bad feelings about President Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress. The video is made to appear current since the current date is next to it. The email also tries to give itself credibility by pronouncing in bold font that, "THIS IS FROM CNN, NOT FOX," as if it must certainly be a legitimate concern since CNN (a news outlet the Right thinks is Left-leaning) is reporting the criticism. The video itself is a clip from a Lou Dobbs' show in which he lists all the outrageous items in an amnesty bill that John Boehner had called a piece of shit. If this video were current as the email suggests it is, it would appear that CNN and Boehner are being critical of Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress. Only problem is that the video is actually video from May 23 of 2007. John Boehner's admonishment that the amnesty bill was a piece of shit was actually directed at President Bush and the Congressional leadership at the time. At the time, criticism of the bill came from both the right and the left. The bill that Lou Dobb's speaks of has nothing to do with anything current today. It is old news made to look current as if CNN and Boehner are criticizing the Obama administration and Congress. One thing is true though, Fox did not run this information at the time because it was a Republican criticizing George Bush. www.thespinkiller.com/
at 23:32 on October 6th, 2009
I agree Rory, when things such as this bill rear their ugly head by politicians far removed from reality in Washington living it up in high style, while in the south or anywhere in America for that matter, is there any wonder you get whacko militant groups, like militiamen, armed groups in camps, Survivalists, Mountain men and others sick and tired of the government lying to them over the years and who believe LAW and ORDER in the USA has hit the SHITTER!. A lot of these militant groups for decades preached Big Business and the Government were in Cahoots and USA is slated for economic ruin by Stock Markets greed, ponzi schemes and corruptness, Governments etc. Guess what? All of the sudden it turns out to be true, thus solidifying their I TOLD YOU STANCE! This just ends up with more of them getting more followers.
These Militant groups know the score see it happening and prepare for Armageddon, Christ we have some patrolling the border between Canada and the US fearing Drug Smugglers and illegals entering from Canada into the USA. Tell me that in the good old days in the 70s this was happening? Tell me when a soldier in the past went public and stated he will not follow order from his President because of his birth may not be a US citizen, Fraud seems ripe in the US and perhaps after bailouts and corruption in the economy, AMericans may finally see things and now who do they trust, as it seems that trust is GONE, and perhaps Gone for GOOD!
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djermanoat 16:17 on October 6th, 2009
I find it refreshing...this way when I give up my US citizenship to become an alien I can get all these great benefits when I become an illegal, and finally become an American again. Ha...
Minority Leader John Boehner to shout "This Bill is a "Piece of Shit",
I might add is really a racial remark against anyone who is foreign...And no wonder the outside world is plotting against Americans....
All the money they spend on the military to kill people, instead of reversing that piece of shit of a military institution, and provide jobs and money support to illegals who are only people, seeking a better of way life; should be coming from John Boehners lips instead....
Rev. Jermano
at 06:47 on October 7th, 2009
hi djermano,
I thought that "piece of shit" was the new country that is rising out of the ashes of the United States of America. Duh am I the fool.
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John Ant (not verified)at 13:34 on November 6th, 2009
Again, What part of Illegal don't you Understand. Illegal is Illegal Duh........
at 16:55 on October 6th, 2009
Djermano: Are you really a citizen of the U.S.? I find that hard to believe! When are you going to give up your U.S.citizenship BTW? You obviously hate America and there's no doubt that both you and America would be much better off if you did, in fact, renounce your U.S. citizenship. I see that you're somewhere in China. Is that your chosen country?
I don't see it as a "racial remark" against anyone who is foreign. But then again, I'm just a privileged White American born with a silver spoon in his mouth--no doubt simply due to the circumstances of my birth (I'll be sure to tell good ol' mom that I'm privileged). But I'm only a people too! HA! And who gives a crap whether it's a racial remark or not? Are we now at the point, in America, where we can't make "racial" remarks? I, personally, don't want illegal immigrants in America. We've got enough problems here with the indigenous as it is. And I'm really tired of those that attempt to hang a guilt trip on Americans every chance that they get. Not only do I not fall for it, but it's totally and completely played out at this point. We've heard it all before and most of it has no basis in reality.If you really feel as strongly about your opinions and views as you let on, then step out of the shadows, walk the walk, and post your real name, and the city that you're posting from, along with a current and full-facial picture of yourself as I've done. I've got nothing to hide. How about you? Are you up to it?
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djermanoat 02:35 on October 7th, 2009
Yes I am Rory. I am not sure when or if I will. You see China follows the one country two system policy...so I can have both citizenships. I renounce all the crap in America that hurts my character and infringes upon my religion. I do not take kind to being forced to pay my taxes to the US Military Complex. I am in China, and find it closer to my convictions of exercising freedom, practicing conservatism, and honoring religion.
Yes I will agree, you are just a privileged White American.
What is an illegal immigrant? When many legal people are black balled and discriminated against? It's Ok to kill the unborn...and now it's time to kill immigrants? It's Ok for the US taxpayers to fund abortions, to spend an astronomical figure on the military...for stuff they will never use, that literally rots doing nothing.....That is if you don't consider Afghanistan and Iraq a do nothing war....
Hey step out of the shadows you say? Become like Kennedy, Martin Luther King, a blown away memory. Rory in America there is a huge conspiracy...from the powers in the CIA with tentacles throughout society. I am not hiding, I am preserving the truth. So many people say that about God...come out come out wherever you are. Does he? Not according to your temptations...but according to his time. If I remember right if you are not religious, The Wizard of Oz was a good guy.
And to be clear Rory, I am really not Anti-American.....they are.....It's just that they claim to be pro-American when they are not. I point out their numerous crimes....and I am declared by them anti-American. So..... which side do you butter the bread?
Rev.
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lmccain (not verified)at 11:24 on November 5th, 2009
If it weren't for the military, this country wouldn't have the rights it does. Our men and women who serve this country do so with blood. How dare you put down our military. You can put down our government, if you vote, but don't put down the people who protect our country. Not only does military action seem to bother you, but how can you be in your right mind and complain about abortion in this country, when you live in China? The country where they had forced abortions?
at 18:04 on October 6th, 2009
Well if Bush can flip people off and say the F word, I guess John Boehner can say the S word.
It is a sad sign of the times when politicians of this great country can't keep their tongues under control and when they freely flash half a peace sign
at 18:40 on October 6th, 2009
American politicians have been flipping each other off (and a lot worse) since this country's beginnings. It's nothing new! A few reads of some American history books will reveal that fact. The Capital building in D.C. is not a church! It's a place where debate (often heated and violent) has taken place for many many years. I don't know where people got the impression that American politicians have ever been civil to one another. People can say what they want about the "incivility" of American politics but, for the most part, it's just something that they use against the American political system because they have a social and political axe to grind. Tell the "politicians" throughout most countries throughout the world that they're not "civil" after they cut each other's heads off and kill their opposition's families . . . .
at 20:25 on October 6th, 2009
Has any of them seen one of the British or Canadian Parliament doings? they all yell who knows what at the same time. Pandemonium.
at 18:19 on October 6th, 2009
I wish I could recommend this twice.
Oh, I can.
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Coldsmoke (not verified)at 19:31 on October 6th, 2009
This whole discussion of amnesty for illegal immigrants is absurd. What part of illegal does Congress and our law enforcement community not understand. Illegal immigrants should have no benefits, no rights, and certainly not receive one freakin dime of taxpayers money, other than for the bus trip back out of the country.Every single illegal immigrant should be shipped back to their host country as soon as they are discovered. Period.Forget the "Amnesty bill" and all the stupid discussion surrounding it. Once all the illegals are out of the country, then we can focus on the real issue of properly administering LEGAL immigration.As for the bill as it sits now, I agree with the Senate Minority Leader; it is a piece of shit and so is every asshead who supports it.
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John Ant (not verified)at 13:40 on November 6th, 2009
Amen ..................Well said.
at 20:19 on October 6th, 2009
On the one hand, I see Karl's point about 11 million illegals: Most of them aren't going anywhere, so they must be helped or at least managed. On the other hand, there is the sinister idea that this is an actual desire to strengthen illegals so as to change the shape of the political landscape. That is ominous.......
at 23:38 on October 6th, 2009
You know if something is not done and not done soon, the border states around Mexico will mirror Mexico with routine Gun Battles, while the Mexican Government turns a blind eye as usual. Giving Amnesty to criminal wont solve anything, just give up and coming illegals a clean slate to be in a gang and when caught plead I am sorry, I denounce this gang, now can you direct me where can I pick up my Green Card and Welfare Cheque Suckers?
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djermanoat 02:41 on October 7th, 2009
I call the Republicans a gang, and the Democrats a gang. I call people who don't help people complict murderers. They won't pass legislation to make and create jobs, for all people in the world...and instead give us this welfare crap. So if no jobs, what can we do but take the Welfare.. If you give us no welfare...then crime oozes out into the streets. Frankly Barry your arguement here is criminal...unless you are supporting means to create jobs for people in America, Mexico, and internationally, so people don't have the need to want to seek immigration or become illegal aliens.
Rev. Jermano
at 04:19 on October 7th, 2009
Karl's Battalion Transport Officer instinct is taking over. Let's see how many 40 passengers buses are required. A yes 275,000. The we need a marshalling area, a compound big enough to hold 11 Million. Hopefully the bus comes with driver.
Anyways, BS aside, this is an immense problem that has been allowed to go on for years. As Barry said they are more concerned about what comes across the Canadian border while their southern border is wide open.
Despite how you feel about amnesty, what is the solution for handling 11 million illegals? Even if you deported them as you identified them, as long as the border remains wide open, more will return than you deported.
I used to sit in El Paso and see them being carried across the Rio Grande, apparently for a quarter back then.
Illegals are also a big part of the economy in the South. Get rid of them and watch your produce prices go up. Let's not just pick on the illegals but on all those that illegally employ them for slave wages.