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Disturbing court rulings of neglect re homeschooling
State Office abuse of power is cause for alarm : In New York State, two highly disturbing cases ; questions of state encroachment of civil liberties and parental rights arise
(One case involves a mother who home schooled her child after he had received a blatant threat of death and was consequently put into the state's data file registry of child neglecters and abusers )
One of the most frightening and downright alarming aspects about the expansion of the state at the expense of the individual in American life within recent years has been the enormous growth of power allotted to Child Protective Services and Division of Youth and Family Services.
When used correctly, of course, these state offices provide an important service in the protection of safety for children from abuse and other dangers.
However, there are cases - far too many in recent years for those of us who have been watching closely - in which these State offices not only abuse their power, but become a monster which devours the family and encroaches on parental rights and civil liberties.
This Examiner coverage of two cases - one of them involving a Now Public editor - drives the point home:
The news of the Montgomery County, New York's Sheriff's Department arresting a couple, Richard and Margie Cressy, on charges of child endangerment for failing to file a homeschool educational plan with the local school district focused the national spotlight on the county where I live late last week. The case was covered by examiner.com as well as all of the local media. It was then picked up by the Drudge Report and the Alex Jones Show.
One important point that needs to be brought out in light of the Cressy case is that homeschooling does not endanger a child's life, but SOMETIMES YOU ARE ENDANGERING YOUR CHILD'S LIFE BY SENDING HIM OR HER TO PUBLIC SCHOOL.
Just ask Rhonda Mangus if you don't believe me. Rhonda's son declared that he was gay at age thirteen. (What you may or may not think about homosexuality has no bearing here). Other children in the North Tonawanda school that he was attending began to pick on him, finally culminating in a written death threat that he received. It was then that Rhonda pulled him from school for his own protection.
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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpokeat 14:25 on January 12th, 2010
It seems to me that the state needs to get its act together and start thinking out of the box. Too often child protection services, have a playbook that they have difficulty moving from. In Alberta there have been several troubling cases involving Child Protective Services. The cases in New York are particularly troubling and there certainly seems to be abuse of power at all levels.
at 14:53 on January 12th, 2010
Yes, thanks for those astute observations, cowpocci. You are correct about their "following the playbook": Obviously , a case where a mother wants to school her child at home after he has been picked on and issued a death threat, is NOT in any way similar to the alcoholic who keeps their child home to listen to their problems, etc. REALLY, where is common sense? I think Rhonda should be awarded a settlement for having been put in the abusers data file. This is a GROSS miscarriage of justice, and really, really scary. Also, sue the child's parents who issued a death threat. This case is frightening to me; extremely disturbing.
at 15:15 on January 12th, 2010
smk, your coverage of this story is deeply appreciated. Thank you:)!
at 15:25 on January 12th, 2010
Great story, and so on point.
at 15:51 on January 12th, 2010
Roy: It just ain't PC to home school your kids. And when something is not PC, the state needs to inject itself for the good of all.
These awful people that home school their kids are just a bunch of right wing whackos. Many of them are Christians and that's a danger all by itself let alone an extreme danger to the kids. The parents of home schooled kids have no regard for the first amendment to the Declaration of Independence which explicitly states: There shall be a wall of separation between all churches and the state.
Moreover: Look at how socially deprived home schooled kids are. In a public school setting they get to mingle with children of different ethnic, cultural, and socio economic backgrounds. Indeed, there's no diversity in a home school setting. To deprive a child of diversity and multiculturalism is one of the worst forms of child abuse. America's strength is its diversity!
Quite frankly, home schooling should be outlawed.
at 16:06 on January 12th, 2010
Rory, it's not about 'politically correct' -- it's about the rights of a parent to the care, education, and upbringing of their children, and in the case of home-instruction, regard for the opinions of medical professionals.
In both cases mentioned here, smk has it right: State offices not only abuse their power, but become a monster which devours the family and encroaches on parental rights and civil liberties.
Too, I just want to mention that there is a distinct difference between home-instruction (at the doctor's request) and home-schooling (where a parent, or parents, have to prepare and have approved by the district principle an education plan for their child(ren)).
at 16:18 on January 12th, 2010
Rhonda: I apologize!
If Roy (and probably SMK too) reads my comment I have no doubt that he'll fall out of his chair for laughter. I don't believe anything that I asserted in my comment. Just the opposite! I was being sarcastic. I'm 100 percent behind home schooling. And I think that the state is evil vis a vis a number of parental rights issues.
at 16:49 on January 12th, 2010
Rory, I was afraid to ask:)! It sounded sarcastic, but I wasn't quite sure this time:) And, after the last time -- well...:)
Nevertheless, as relates to bullying:
There are NYS laws in effect related to bullying, and policies and procedures "school officials" must follow in cases of bullying. NYSUT demanded last year for the Senate to enact all-inclusive legislation. Yet, here again, the Senate fails to act.
Source: my.nowpublic.com
at 16:55 on January 12th, 2010
Rhonda: Yeah! Something needs to be done. Back in the day and in the town that I grew up in, we used to beat the crap out of each other just for the fun of it. Hell, we used to get thrown off the end of a pier into the East River if we were at the wrong place at the wrong time and there were a hell of a lot of rocks below the surface of that water.
However, the town was extremely homogeneous and the bullying did not go to the extent that is does nowadays. Moreover, there was always someone there--typically a father, older brother, friend, etc.--that would come a running if the line was crossed and set things straight. Nowadays if we used the same tactics, we'd wind up in jail . . . but it worked back then and created equality among the warring parties.
There are a lot of sick, cruel, and vicious kids out there nowadays. More so than ever before. And nowadays everything is done by the book. Unfortunately "the book" tends to favor the perp as opposed to the victim.
at 17:00 on January 12th, 2010
"There are a lot of sick, cruel, and vicious kids out there nowadays."
And "school officials", "social workers", and "law enforcement" who very well may be covering for them; this is frightening!
at 17:47 on January 12th, 2010
Rhonda: Remember that story I posted a while ago about the middle school football players that sexually abused the kid in the locker room with a broom handle and hockey stick down here in Florida?
That outrage continued for months and months under the collective nose of the school administrators. I have personally been to that school on a number of occasions . . . .
I love my country and I love the American people. But with that said, I am the first to admit that something occurred in America, within the past 20 years or so, that has effectively turned out a generation that appears to contain a rather large and disturbing amount of adolescent sociopaths that are devoid of human emotions and sensitivities.
Why that is, I have no idea. But when I moved to Florida in 98, I made friends with many people that were in their teens, 20s, and 30s. Through my conversations with them, I was taken aback by the fact that many of them have been on prescription drugs since their early childhood. Prozac, lithium, you name it . . . .
at 04:39 on January 13th, 2010
Rory, it should not come as any surprise to any parent that there child may not be safe in a school environment, and for the reason you state here: "That outrage continued for months and months under the collective nose of the school administrators." Some schools are, without doubt, breeding grounds for violence.
"School officials" not only ignore the violence against youth, they under-report their violence to state education departments (e.g. North Tonawanda School District).
"But with that said, I am the first to admit that something occurred in America, within the past 20 years or so, that has effectively turned out a generation that appears to contain a rather large and disturbing amount of adolescent sociopaths that are devoid of human emotions and sensitivities."
Very likely attributed to the moral decline of the Americas, beginning with the removal of prayer from public schools.
Unfortunately, America is not all "it's cracked up to be". In education, alone, I believe it ranks 14th in the world.
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Julia A (not verified)at 20:57 on January 12th, 2010
Rory Cripps you are 100% correct. Children need social interaction to develop the skills they will need as adults. Not to mention the religious brainwashing so many home schooled children are subjected to.
at 15:49 on January 13th, 2010
MINCHIA and a DOUBLE JEEZ!
at 16:00 on January 12th, 2010
Other children in the North Tonawanda school that he was attending began to pick on him, finally culminating in a written death threat that he received. It was then that Rhonda pulled him from school for his own protection.
I have a special treatment for bullies and people that send anonymous death threats. You've all seen Captain Chris advertised here--well I can teach Captain Chris a few tricks! lol!
at 18:21 on January 12th, 2010
NANUTE! WHAT'S THE WORD FROM 6th AVENUE? Aren't you going to chime in here?
at 03:44 on January 13th, 2010
Ding Dong! The story about the couple not registering the lesson plan with the school district seems like a case of self inflicted victimization. I don't have all the facts related to the case, but I'd hazard a guess that these parents, (good, god fearing folks), just didn't want the State telling them how to raise their children. Was it a case of over-zealous prosecution? Who knows? (How many times did the district try to get the parents to comply with the rule?) If you think the State does not have a responsibility to insure that children receive an education, in or out of the classroom, then I guess these parents are justified in their insistence of not complying with the law, and are victimized.
On a personal note: I had a run in with NY State Dept. of Social Services many years ago. I have two boys, 10 years apart in age. One night, my wife and I left the 4 year old home with the 14 year old. Now, the little one was a screamer and a whiner. While we were out, one of our concerned, anonymous neighbors reported to social services that there might be a case of neglect or abuse going on in the house. When the investigator from SS came to the house he informed us of the report, and asked to speak with the boys away from our presence. I told him if he thought we were abusive or neglectful parents, he should take the boys with him. The boys started screaming and begging not to be taken away, and I never heard or saw the investigator again. One of my neighbors was questioned by the investigator, and he told him, that as far as he was concerned, we didn't abuse the kids enough! True story.
at 15:47 on January 13th, 2010
nanute:
One of my neighbors was questioned by the investigator, and he told him, that as far as he was concerned, we didn't abuse the kids enough! True story.
lol!