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DoD Op Enduring Freedom Casualty update as of 10am 11 Sept 2009
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by Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke | September 12, 2009 at 05:35 am
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U.S Casualties have increased again during this past week. Here is the update of total casualties as of 10 am 11 September 2009. The number of Deaths has now risen to 746, which is an increase of `8 over the previous week.
OEF U.S. Military Casualties
Total Deaths KIA Non-Hostile WIA RTD ** WIA Not RTD
In and Around Afghanistan 746 569 177 1,506 2,389
Other Locations**** 69 3 66
OEF U.S. DoD Civilian
Casualties 1 1
Worldwide Total 816 574 243 1,506 2,390
As of Saturday, September 11th, 2009, at least 746 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department. The department last updated its figures Friday September 11th 10:00 AM EDT.
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at 09:26 on September 12th, 2009
Thanks ACP! It's getting better all the time . . . not! Spoke to two young Spec-Op guys, the other day, down here in Tampa (home to CENTCOM) re. Afghanistan. Their colorful wording, as it applied to the situation in Afghanistan, didn't surprise me much! LOL!
at 09:35 on September 12th, 2009
I hear it all the time during pre-deployment training. Canadian troops still believe that they're making a difference. That's a good thing. The thing that bothers them the most is multiple mission deployments. They're getting tired. Our force is small enough that there is no rest for them between deployments.
The troops are either deployed, getting ready for deployment or involved in our training schools as instructors. There is also a lot of unit training such as LAV drivers, machine gunners, TOW gunners, recon and communications.
The attrition rate is fairly high too, for the time they are able to make it up with recruiting, but there is always a loss in experience.
at 10:19 on September 12th, 2009
I was listening to a report--I can't remember the source : (
But they were saying that the increased number of suicides in the military is linked to the depression and PTSD suffered by military personal who have had multiple deployments, some as many as four or five.
at 14:03 on September 12th, 2009
PTSD is a major problem for all of NATO forces. We need to understand when you spend 6 months or a year living in a box it is hard to come back to the world of plenty.
When I returned from Bosnia I spend the first night in a hotel in Toronto, the next day I flew to Edmonton. My neighbors picked me up and we went to MacDonalds. To be quite frank this was all very strange to me. At that time the Canadian Forces did not have a decompression program. They now take the troops to Cyprus for a five day decompression. As well, we now deal with PTSD in a different way.
at 14:24 on September 12th, 2009
Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Public awareness piqued in the United States with the ravages of PTSD as a result of Desert Storm. At least this is when I became aware of it. Then the stories of Viet Nam veterens began to emerge about drug and alcohol addictions, homeless, lack of medical care and the disregard for their needs in general. A lot has changed since then with interventions and better medical care. What has not changed is the incidences of PTSD. There needs to be a way to indentify those who are particularly suseptible to PTSD, and try and prevent it, or at least intervene early enough to mitigate its effects.
at 15:14 on September 12th, 2009
PTSD sometimes cannot be determined until the troops return home. For some everything changes. As an example, you operate at a very high tempo for 6 months to a year. You are surrounded by your buddies and you have an opportunity to talk about your experiences after each action you are involved in. That stops when you come out of theatre.
In Canada we intially tried to get social workers into the act. The problem was that Social Workers or Psychiatrists were not in theatre or involved in it. Troops are reluctant to share their experience with those that haven't been there. That's why buddy group sessions work so well.
As long as you go as a formed unit and return to garrison with the same bunch the likelihood of PTSD is diminished. The problem starts with reserve units. There it is, we must make progress, to ensure those soldiers are looked after, after redeployment.
at 18:55 on September 12th, 2009
Perhaps all combat veterans suffer from some form of PTSD. And perhaps, depending upon the war (or wars) that they served in, their symptoms are manifested in different ways. I know guys that served in Vietnam that hit the deck at the moment a car muffler back-fired. And I know guys that have to force themselves to attend July 4th fireworks displays 40 years after they returned from Vietnam. But I knew many WW II combat veterans that weren't phased in the least about back-firing mufflers and fireworks and who spent many more years in combat and under worse conditions than the above described Vietnam Vets.They rarely (if ever) spoke of their war experiences and they essentially just blended in with the rest of the crowd. However, many of them drank like fish in the local bars.
at 21:16 on September 12th, 2009
It's worthy to note also that veterens coming home from WWII were welcomed with parades and acolades and celebrated as heros. The GI bill guaranteed them unemployement benefits for a year, college education, small business loans, and home loans. They felt like conquering heros, and I am sure it effected their abilities to assimilate back into society. But we all know what the veterens from Viet Nam came home to, and it was not parades or cheers for conquering heros, and this was bound to have a negative effect.
at 10:32 on September 13th, 2009
a211423: Yeah, the home coming that the WWII vets received ( my father and father in law marched down Broadway if I recall correctly) was quite different from the Vietnam Vets that I knew who were back home hanging out on the park bench and playing basketball and baseball only a short time after being in a fire fight. The WW II vets that survived had the benefit of knowing that their war was won. The Vietnam Vets that I knew came home circa 68 to 72 and their war was far from being won. They had the benefit of living in a close knit town, however, and they received much support from our town's VFW and American Legion posts. It was also the kind of town where many of the townsfolk turned out every year for the Memorial Day Parade.
at 18:12 on September 12th, 2009
I never thought of the Reserve Units, but it seems they might be even more at risk because of their occassional rather than ongoing affiliation with the stress of military operations.
at 21:37 on September 12th, 2009
I don.t know about US reserves, but in Canada they go back to their civilian job, or University and those that they talk to cannot relate to what these guys have been through. Regular Force members still have the same buddies that they were in theatre with. It should be noted that we don.t send reserve units, but they supplement regular army units.