DoD Op Enduring Freedom Casualty update as of 10am 11th Dec 2009

by Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke | December 12, 2009 at 04:35 am
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Here is this weeks update on Casualties in Afghanistan.  Another six soldiers lost their lives this week.  This past week the issue of Afghanistan has been front and centre in Congress.  The Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Defence, Robert Gates and The Chief of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mullen, have all downplayed he exit strategy in President Obama's decision speech at West Point Military Academy.

The Exit Strategy is now better known as a Transition Commencement Period (my term).  President Hamid Karzai has gone as far as saying it would take 10 -15 years for Afghanistan to take over responsibility for their own country.

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Admiral Mullen warned Americans this week to expect higher casualties.  Yesterday it was also announced that the last quarter has been the deadliest since the Afghan war started.

Unmanned drone attacks have been intensified in the tribal region of Pakistan, signifying that President Obama is continuing with the Bush Administration policy and even escalating it.

  NATO countries have pledged an additional 7,000 troops, some with caveats.


Yesterday, US Marines, commenced an operation to secure Helmand Province, the first Operation since the Presidents involvement.

US launch Offensive in Helmand by NP Writer Hugh Askew


   OEF U.S. Military Casualties                    

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


                                  Total Deaths  KIA  Non-Hostile   WIA RTD ** WIA Not RTD
           In and
Around Afghanistan             858          664       194                 1,903                2,736  
  

   

  Other Locations****           71              4            67                                             

   

  OEF U.S. DoD 

   

Civilian Casualties                     2              1              1  

   

  Worldwide Total                    931        669          262                1,903          2,737


As of Saturday, December 12th 2009, at least 858 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department. The department last updated its figures Friday December 11th, 10:00 AM ET. 

   

 

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Uwe Paschen

How many civilian did lose their lives in the same time period?

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Hugh Askew

Good question, Paschen.

Any ideas on how many lost their lives under Taliban rule?

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

According to Human Rights Watch, bombings and other attacks which have led to civilian casualties are reported to have "sharply escalated in 2006" with "at least 669 Afghan civilians were killed in at least 350 armed attacks, most of which appear to have been intentionally launched at non-combatants."[144][145] By 2008 the Taliban had increased its attacks using suicide bombers and the targeted killing of unarmed civilian aid workers such as Gayle Williams.[146] The United Nations reports that the number of civilians killed by both the Taliban and the pro-government forces in the war rose nearly 50% since 2007. In the first six months of 2009 595 civilians died at the hand of the Taliban, and 309 at the hands of NATO and Afghan government forces. In the first half of 2008, the Taliban had killed 495 civilians and the allies 276.[147] [148] The high number of civilians killed by Taliban is blamed in part on their increasing use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs), "for instance, 16 IEDs have been planted in girls' schools" by the Taliban.[147]\


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Hugh Askew

Okay, so i can follow this, put together, etc.......

Do the wiki figures include those killed deliberately by the Taliban?

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Uwe Paschen

As of November 23, 2009, there have been 1,464 coalition deaths in Afghanistan as part of ongoing coalition operations (Operation Enduring Freedom and ISAF) since the invasion in 2001.
Compared to Civilian causalities:

  • direct deaths: at least 9,260 - 12,057
  • indirect deaths: 3,200 - 20,000
  • direct & indirect deaths: 12,460 - 32,057
  • indirect deaths after initial invasion:n/a
  • The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) recorded 1,500 Afghan civilian deaths between January 1 and August 31, 2009, representing an increase of 31% over the same period in 2008, when 1,145 civilians were killed. In 135 (9%) of the deaths.
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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

The highlight below is an estimate, Wikepedia has it broken down even more.


  • direct deaths: at least 9,260 - 12,057
  • indirect deaths: 3,200 - 20,000
  • direct & indirect deaths: 12,460 - 32,057
  • indirect deaths after initial invasion: n/a


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stejeb

When you compare these figures to the casualities during the Russian war in Afghanistan, it makes you wonder exactly how many losses are going to be too many and they get out.


Maybe for both sides sake.

"After the war ended, the Soviet Union published figures of dead Soviet soldiers: the total was 13,836 men, an average of 1,512 men a year. According to updated figures, the Soviet army lost 14,427, the KGB lost 576, with 28 people dead and missing.

Over 1 million Afghans were killed. 5 million Afghans fled to Pakistan and Iran, 1/3 of the prewar population of the country. Another 2 million Afghans were displaced within the country. In the 1980s, one out of two refugees in the world was an Afghan.

Along with fatalities were 1.2 million Afghans disabled (mujahideen, government soldiers and noncombatants) and 3 million maimed or wounded (primarily noncombatants)"

Source: Wikipedia.org


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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Thank you for the updated info stejeb.  You pose a serious and responsible question.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Thanks for commenting Roy.  I have estimates of Taliban killings highlighted above, Hugh A asked the same question.

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marianmo

ty for keeping us informed

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snuffysmith

Are deaths from violence in Iraq being under-reported?: BBC Video Report: The Iraqi government is being accused of under-reporting the number of people killed after weeks of deadly violence.

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snuffysmith

Who is counting the bodies in Iraq?: Mr Maliki's political reputation was built largely on his apparent success in bringing violence levels down following the US troop surge in 2007. Now, this image of a man who could keep Baghdad safe has been tarnished.

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snuffysmith

Seven killed in Iraq attacks: Seven people, including three policemen and two soldiers, were killed by attacks in and around Baghdad on Friday, an Iraqi interior ministry official said.

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snuffysmith

COBRA'S ANGER - U.S. Marines with the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, conduct combat operations in Now Zad, Afghanistan, during Operation Cobra's Anger, Dec. 4, 2009. Operation Cobra's Anger disrupted enemy supply lines and communication in Now Zad, once a safe haven for Taliban forces. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Walter Marino

Fighting The Taliban In Afghanistan -- The BBC

As President Obama announced plans to send 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan to tackle the Taliban, Mark Urban spent time with some of the troops on the front line in Helmand province.

"I heard Kilo company lit up nine guys today," said Craig, a young US marine, his face illuminated by the flickering flames that separated us.

Craig, square-jawed and of Irish American stock from Boston, looked like a young Kennedy stranded in Afghanistan. Night had fallen over the shattered compound in Now Zad where we were bedding down.

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snuffysmith

The Cost Of The Afghan Surge Is About To SurgeAn Afghan army soldier stands near a burning fuel truck outside Jalalabad east of Kabul, Afghanistan, on Sunday after a supply convoy of NATO and coalition forces was attacked. Photo from TampaBay.com


Huge Surge Logistics Bill Coming -- DoD Buzz


President Obama has com­mit­ted to a major new phase of the Afghan cam­paign. With the sub­stan­tial mis­sion expan­sion comes a sig­nif­i­cant demand for new resources to deal with the most ignored part of oper­a­tions to the out­sider, logis­tics and sus­tain­ment costs.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Thanks for the update, ACP.



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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

You're very welcome

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YankeeJim

Gates reiterated his support for President Barack Obama’s new strategy, and said he expects the new troop commitment to look a lot like the 2007 surge in Iraq and, at least initially, to encounter the same challenges.

He emphasized that the drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan planned to begin in July 2011 doesn’t mean the mission will end. The drawdown will be gradual and based on conditions on the ground, just as it has been in Iraq, he told the group.

“We don’t want to be there one day longer than we have to be,” Gates said, a point he said he made clear during his visit to Kabul earlier this week. “We have no desire to be an occupying force,” he said.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

The flavour of the week being "depending on the conditions on the ground". That would be a very short surge. How long did the surge in Iraq last, and they had experienced military personnel to draw on for the Iraq army.

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