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DoD Op Enduring Freedom Casualty update as of 10am 11th Dec 2009
Here is this weeks update on Casualties in Afghanistan. Another six soldiers lost their lives this week. This past week the issue of Afghanistan has been front and centre in Congress. The Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Defence, Robert Gates and The Chief of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mullen, have all downplayed he exit strategy in President Obama's decision speech at West Point Military Academy.
The Exit Strategy is now better known as a Transition Commencement Period (my term). President Hamid Karzai has gone as far as saying it would take 10 -15 years for Afghanistan to take over responsibility for their own country.
Admiral Mullen warned Americans this week to expect higher casualties. Yesterday it was also announced that the last quarter has been the deadliest since the Afghan war started.
Unmanned drone attacks have been intensified in the tribal region of Pakistan, signifying that President Obama is continuing with the Bush Administration policy and even escalating it.
NATO countries have pledged an additional 7,000 troops, some with caveats.
Yesterday, US Marines, commenced an operation to secure Helmand Province, the first Operation since the Presidents involvement.
US launch Offensive in Helmand by NP Writer Hugh Askew
OEF U.S. Military Casualties
Total Deaths KIA Non-Hostile WIA RTD ** WIA Not RTD In and
Around Afghanistan 858 664 194 1,903 2,736
Other Locations**** 71 4 67
OEF U.S. DoD
Civilian Casualties 2 1 1
Worldwide Total 931 669 262 1,903 2,737
As of Saturday, December 12th 2009, at least 858 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department. The department last updated its figures Friday December 11th, 10:00 AM ET.
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at 04:52 on December 12th, 2009
How many civilian did lose their lives in the same time period?
at 07:05 on December 12th, 2009
Good question, Paschen.
Any ideas on how many lost their lives under Taliban rule?
at 07:17 on December 12th, 2009
Source: en.wikipedia.org
at 07:27 on December 12th, 2009
Okay, so i can follow this, put together, etc.......
Do the wiki figures include those killed deliberately by the Taliban?
at 04:58 on December 12th, 2009
As of November 23, 2009, there have been 1,464 coalition deaths in Afghanistan as part of ongoing coalition operations (Operation Enduring Freedom and ISAF) since the invasion in 2001.
Compared to Civilian causalities:
at 05:03 on December 12th, 2009
The highlight below is an estimate, Wikepedia has it broken down even more.
Source: en.wikipedia.org
at 05:26 on December 12th, 2009
When you compare these figures to the casualities during the Russian war in Afghanistan, it makes you wonder exactly how many losses are going to be too many and they get out.
Maybe for both sides sake.
"After the war ended, the Soviet Union published figures of dead Soviet soldiers: the total was 13,836 men, an average of 1,512 men a year. According to updated figures, the Soviet army lost 14,427, the KGB lost 576, with 28 people dead and missing.
Over 1 million Afghans were killed. 5 million Afghans fled to Pakistan and Iran, 1/3 of the prewar population of the country. Another 2 million Afghans were displaced within the country. In the 1980s, one out of two refugees in the world was an Afghan.
Along with fatalities were 1.2 million Afghans disabled (mujahideen, government soldiers and noncombatants) and 3 million maimed or wounded (primarily noncombatants)"
Source: Wikipedia.org
at 06:15 on December 12th, 2009
Thank you for the updated info stejeb. You pose a serious and responsible question.
at 07:20 on December 12th, 2009
Thanks for commenting Roy. I have estimates of Taliban killings highlighted above, Hugh A asked the same question.
at 07:26 on December 12th, 2009
ty for keeping us informed
at 07:30 on December 12th, 2009
Are deaths from violence in Iraq being under-reported?: BBC Video Report: The Iraqi government is being accused of under-reporting the number of people killed after weeks of deadly violence.
at 07:30 on December 12th, 2009
Who is counting the bodies in Iraq?: Mr Maliki's political reputation was built largely on his apparent success in bringing violence levels down following the US troop surge in 2007. Now, this image of a man who could keep Baghdad safe has been tarnished.
at 07:31 on December 12th, 2009
Seven killed in Iraq attacks: Seven people, including three policemen and two soldiers, were killed by attacks in and around Baghdad on Friday, an Iraqi interior ministry official said.
at 08:03 on December 12th, 2009
COBRA'S ANGER - U.S. Marines with the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, conduct combat operations in Now Zad, Afghanistan, during Operation Cobra's Anger, Dec. 4, 2009. Operation Cobra's Anger disrupted enemy supply lines and communication in Now Zad, once a safe haven for Taliban forces. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Walter Marino
Fighting The Taliban In Afghanistan -- The BBC
As President Obama announced plans to send 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan to tackle the Taliban, Mark Urban spent time with some of the troops on the front line in Helmand province.
"I heard Kilo company lit up nine guys today," said Craig, a young US marine, his face illuminated by the flickering flames that separated us.
Craig, square-jawed and of Irish American stock from Boston, looked like a young Kennedy stranded in Afghanistan. Night had fallen over the shattered compound in Now Zad where we were bedding down.
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at 08:04 on December 12th, 2009
More News on Afghanistan
Marine offense gives Afghan city second chance -- U.S. Department of Defense
Afghan police uncover 700 kg explosives in Taliban hotbed -- China View
US Marines train illiterate farmers to be police -- AP
In Afghanistan war, marines' struggle to recruit locals could delay US exit -- Christian Science Monitor
Drone aircraft in a stepped-up war in Afghanistan and Pakistan -- Christian Science Monitor
U.S. military chief: 'We cannot have an endless surge' in Afghanistan -- CNN
Top U.N. envoy in Kabul to step down -- Washington Post
U.N. Afghan mission chief to resign -- New York Times
Kai Eide will not seek third year as head of UN’s Afghanistan mission -- Times Online
US military deaths in Afghanistan region at 858 -- AP
Work to be done -- Washington Post editorial.
The Iraq 'surge' vs. the Afghanistan 'surge' -- Examiner
Going naked in Kabul -- Gail Collins, New York Times
Obama and Afghanistan -- A.G. Noorani, DAWN
Think this ‘surge' will make a difference? -- Jeffrey Simpson, Globe And Mail
Obama's Afghan Surge: A Long War With an Uncertain Outcome -- Time Magazine
at 08:06 on December 12th, 2009
The Cost Of The Afghan Surge Is About To SurgeAn Afghan army soldier stands near a burning fuel truck outside Jalalabad east of Kabul, Afghanistan, on Sunday after a supply convoy of NATO and coalition forces was attacked. Photo from TampaBay.com
Huge Surge Logistics Bill Coming -- DoD Buzz
President Obama has committed to a major new phase of the Afghan campaign. With the substantial mission expansion comes a significant demand for new resources to deal with the most ignored part of operations to the outsider, logistics and sustainment costs.
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at 09:39 on December 12th, 2009
Thanks for the update, ACP.
at 10:03 on December 12th, 2009
You're very welcome
at 12:09 on December 12th, 2009
Gates reiterated his support for President Barack Obama’s new strategy, and said he expects the new troop commitment to look a lot like the 2007 surge in Iraq and, at least initially, to encounter the same challenges.
He emphasized that the drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan planned to begin in July 2011 doesn’t mean the mission will end. The drawdown will be gradual and based on conditions on the ground, just as it has been in Iraq, he told the group.
“We don’t want to be there one day longer than we have to be,” Gates said, a point he said he made clear during his visit to Kabul earlier this week. “We have no desire to be an occupying force,” he said.
at 12:33 on December 12th, 2009
The flavour of the week being "depending on the conditions on the ground". That would be a very short surge. How long did the surge in Iraq last, and they had experienced military personnel to draw on for the Iraq army.