The due process of detention

by YankeeJim | December 21, 2010 at 04:40 pm
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There are those who believe that enemy combatants should receive their judicial day in the field by military trail. I do.

Having made the mistake of capturing and hauling these people around, now, we have to have a military trial system on an acceptable venue. Gitmo was it. People didn’t like it because the complete process was a work in progress.

Now, we have figured out what needs to be done, so let’s establish another military initiative on the proper venue where we can deal with the captives.

There are likely people with different degrees of guilt and maybe some innocents. The system must accommodate that.

Anyone convicted of terrorism should face a minimum life sentence in captivity, IMO. So, someone please explain what is to be done, and for heaven’s sake, don’t try them in civil court.

“Breaking News Alert: Obama administration readies order on indefinite detention 
December 21, 2010 5:33:13 PM

The Obama administration is preparing an executive order that would formalize indefinite detention without trial for some detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but allow those detainees and their lawyers to challenge the basis for continued incarceration, U.S. officials said. 

Under the system established by the previous administration, Guantanamo detainees could go before military review panels with “personal representatives,” military officers who could explain the process but not act as lawyers. The system envisioned under the executive order now being finalized would be more adversarial and would allow detainees to challenge their incarceration periodically, possibly every year.”

“he following is a paper on the existence of the classification “enemy combatant”. It analyzes the ramifications on an individual once they are classified an enemy combatant, and the international laws that pertain to the classification.  Please note that references are available upon request, and this paper does not necessarily reflect the view of U Be The Critic.com

Does the Classification “Enemy Combatant” Exist?

To determine whether the classification “Enemy Combatant” exists, this paper will analyse state practice, opinio juris, and treaty law.

A good indication of the world’s acceptance of a term is its presence in a dictionary. The English dictionary does not define “enemy combatant”. Its first appearance was in the dictionary of military and associated terms on 6 April 2004.”

 http://ubethecritic.com/2010/07/international-law-the-existence-of-enemy-combatants/

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Piobar

I agree completely. Though, I can see the other side in this, or a possible defence of civil trials for terrorists. Because they are not in a regular military, they do not wear uniforms or any other form of unique identifiers to show them as combatants, they do not participate in regular military training, and they do not follow the laws of any nation, let alone the Western laws regarding warfare, combined with the fact that there is no clear guidance under the Geneva conventions regarding civilian combatants, as terrorists are technically civilians; they fall, as a result, under civil legislation.

 

I say that they are civilians, and that there is no clear guidance, because large-scale Terrorism is  relatively new occurrence, and one that intentionally falls outside traditional military definitions or strategies. The fact that they should be tried by the government of their own nation is countered with the fact that the Afghan legal system is not trusted by the West with regards to humane treatment of prisoners leads to the situation we are currently facing. Under the earlier articles of the Geneva Convention, a military tribunal could try them as spies, I suppose, and they could have been shot. But those articles are no longer in effect, and to try and reinstitute them would be both a gross human rights abuse, and a war-crime. Gone are the days of firing-squads at dawn, and “shoot, shovel, and shut up.” The reasons for abandoning these practices are just, but the finding and implementation of alternatives has never really begun.

 

The enemy of today have changed the rules on us, now we need to change the rules ourselves. But the groups who are mandated with such issues, the UN, the international courts, even NATO, have shown them selves impotent in such matters. Nations will not support anything that is inconvenient to their own ends, they are hesitant to commit resources for enforcement of institutions that they do support, and if the number of NATO nations pulling troops from Afghanistan over the last few years is anything to go by, even if they DO commit resources, they will not do so for a long term, or with any clear plans for implementation.

 

The war on Terrorism is a quagmire, and the only things that are clear in this fight are the threat, and the challenges in facing it. The solutions are far less strait-forward. And since most democratic Governments only think in terms of re-election, the long term goals and strategies required to solve these problems are unlikely to win support, let alone be fully planned out and initiated. Lets face it, no one wants to deal with these issues, because they are controversial, and they are controversial because they need to be dealt with....

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Lazy man says thanks for the thoughtful response.

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