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Egypt trying to mitigate between Gaza terrorists and Israel
For a government that is barely up and running in its own country, it’s a wonderment to me how Egypt can take the lead in repressing violence between Palestinian terrorists and Israel.
Cairo characterized the Israeli attacks against Gaza unjustifiable, though how do they characterize 130 rocket attacks by Palestinians against Israel? On what justification do they reject claims of terror emanating from Sanai?
From where do Palestinian terrorists receive their rockets? What brand is on them?
Want to mitigate peace, go to the source of the rockets. Follow the supply chain and distribution channel. Do that and it may lead right back up your own pathway Egypt.
“Egypt working to halt escalation of Gaza violence
By JPOST.COM STAFF
03/11/2012 13:49
Cairo's envoy to the Palestinian territories in contact with Gaza groups, Israel in efforts to quell hostilities, calls Israeli attacks in Gaza "unjustifiable," and rejects claims of terror threat emanating from Sinai.
Egypt was making efforts Sunday to halt a further escalation of violence in southern Israel and the Gaza Strip which has seen more than 130 rockets fired towards the Jewish State and 17 Palestinians killed in Israel Air Force strikes since Friday.
"Egypt is in a race against time in order to halt hostilities as soon as possible to avoid further escalations," Egyptian ambassador to the Palestinian territories Yasser Othman told the Palestinian Ma'an News Agency on Sunday.
Othman was quoted by Ma'an as saying that Cairo was in contact with both the Israelis and groups within Gaza, in hopes that they can "avoid undesirable developments."
The Egyptian official called Israel's attacks on Gaza "unjustifiable," rejecting claims that Popular Resistance Committees chief Zuhair Qaisi, killed by the IAF on Friday, had been targeted because he was planning a terror attack to be launched from Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.
Sinai is "fully under control...This is an attempt by Israel to give justification for the offensive against Gaza," Othman stated.
A Hamas delegation headed by Hamas co-founder and leader Mahmoud Zahar headed to Cairo on Saturday, the Palestinian News Network reported, as tensions between Gaza and Israel reached the highest point this year.
Hamas is having trouble reining in terrorist groups Islamic Jihad and the Palestinian Resistance Committees, according to the report.”



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at 05:36 on March 11th, 2012
Give Gaza, one square mile of beach and rubble, back to Egypt. Build a wall between the new Egyptian border and Israel. Grease the deal with a few hundred million in international aid. The Israeli-Palestinian problem will be half solved, or, at the least, the most progress in half a century will have been made.
Some problems are too simple to solve.
at 07:50 on March 11th, 2012
That amount of money has already been pumped in. To me, the issue is getting the Arab community to address Palestinians as their problem and they need to help develop a solution.
at 18:10 on March 11th, 2012
Every state in the Arabian Peninsula has displaced Palestinians. Many countries like Lebanon have over 10% of their population from Palestinian diaspora. That is the Arab community addressing the Palestinian issue. Furthermore, the Arab League is pushing for a two stat solution.
Gaza is less than 2% the size of Israel. Unlike the West Bank, giving back Gaza does not create any colorable claims of national security for Israel. This is really a stupid problem on the world stage due to Israel's intranigence.
at 02:03 on March 12th, 2012
Arab states do not want the people who were created as a result from an Arab Sheik selling land to Jews to start Israel and the United Nations supporting the creation of Israel. (Simplification)
There is a body of people for which there is no nation state acceptance. The first thing is to get a nation state to accept them because they are too small and distributed lot of people to justify a nation state, in my opinion.
at 03:40 on March 18th, 2012
Israel would like nothing more then for Egypt to retake Gaza. They dont want it back. I really find it weird how you always seem to blame Israel. Israel is OUT of Gaza. Period.
at 05:48 on March 12th, 2012
There is a body of people for which there is no nation state acceptance. The first thing is to get a nation state to accept them because they are too small and distributed lot of people to justify a nation state, in my opinion.
I have to disagree here:
(1) The U.N. General Assembly accepts Palestine as a state. But for the U.S. Security Council veto, Palestine would become a U.N. member state.
(2) Palestine existed before 1967 as a recognized state with internationally accepted borders.
at 14:21 on March 12th, 2012
"THE MYTH OF THE "OCCUPIED" TERRITORIES: SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
By Professor Louis Rene Beres
April 6, 2002
NewsWithViews.com
The following article was written by Professor Beres in June 1992.
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Media references to territories administered by Israel since the June 1967 war now routinely describe them as "occupied." Yet, this description conveniently overlooks the pertinent history of these lands, especially the authentic Israeli claims supported by international law, the unwitting manner in which West Bank and Gaza fell into Israel's hands after sustained Arab aggression and the overwhelming security considerations involved. Contrary to widely disseminated but wholly erroneous allegations; a sovereign State of Palestine did not exist before 1967 or 1948; a State of Palestine was not promised by authoritative UN Security Council Resolution 242; indeed, a State of Palestine has never existed.
As a nonstate legal entity, Palestine ceased to exist in 1948, when Great Britain relinquished its League of Nations mandate. When, during the 1948 - 1949 war of independence, the West Bank and Gaza came under illegal control of Jordan and Egypt respectively, these aggressor nations did not put an end to an already-existing state. From the Biblical Period (ca. 1350 BC to 586 BC) to the British Mandate (1918 - 1948), the land named by the Romans after the ancient Philistines was controlled only by non- Palestinian elements.
Significantly, however, a continuous chain of Jewish possession of the land was legally recognized after World War I at the San Remo Peace Conference of April 1920. There, a binding treaty was signed in which Great Britain was given mandatory authority over Palestine (the area had been ruled by the Ottoman Turks since 1516) to prepare it to become the "national home for the Jewish people." Palestine, according to the treaty, comprised territories encompassing what are now the state of Jordan and Israel, including West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza. Present day Israel, including West Bank and Gaza, comprises only twenty-two percent of Palestine as defined and ratified at the San Remo Peace Conference.
In 1922, Great Britain unilaterally and illegally split off 78 percent of the lands promised to the Jews -- all of Palestine east of the Jordan River -- and gave it to Abdullah, the non-Palestinian son of the Sharif of Mecca. Eastern Palestine now took the name Transjordan, which it retained until April 1949, when it was renamed as Jordan. From the moment of its creation, Transjordan was closed to all Jewish migration and settlement, a clear betrayal of the British promise in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and a contravention of its Mandatory obligations. On July 20, 1951, a Palestinian Arab assassinated King Abdullah for his hostility to Palestinian aspirations and concerns.
Several years prior to Abdullah's killing, in 1947, the newly-formed United Nations, rather than designate the entire land west of the Jordan River as the Jewish national homeland, enacted a second partition. Ironically, because this second fission again gave unfair advantage to the Arabs, Jewish leaders accepted the painful judgment while Arab states did not. On May 15, 1948, exactly one day after the State of Israel came into existence, Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the Arab League, declared to a tiny new nation founded upon the ashes of the Holocaust: "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre...." This declaration, of course, has been at the very heart of all subsequent Arab policies toward Israel.
In 1967, almost twenty years after Israel's entry into the community of nations, the Jewish State -- as a result of its stunning military victory over Arab aggressor states -- gained unintended control over West Bank and Gaza. Although the idea of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war is enshrined in the UN Charter, there existed no authoritative sovereign to whom the territories could be "returned." Israel could hardly be expected to transfer the territories back to Jordan and Egypt, which had exercised unauthorized and generallycruel control since the Arab-initiated war of "extermination" in 1948-49. Moreover, the idea of Palestinian self-determination was only just beginning to emerge after the Six Day War, and was not even codified in UN Security Council Resolution 242, which was adopted on November 22, 1967. For their part, the Arab states convened a summit in Khartoum in August 1967, concluding: "No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it...."
Resolution 242 has been generally misinterpreted. The formula advanced by the Resolution is patently one of "peace for land," not "land for peace." The Resolution grants to every state in the Middle East "the right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries." It points, therefore, to peace before territorial withdrawal to "recognized boundaries."
Security Council Resolution 242 is a balanced whole. The right of self-determination of the Palestinians does not appear in the Resolution; an international conference is never mentioned; the parties referred to include only states, not insurgent/terror organizations; and the phrase "territories occupied" is neither preceded by "the," nor is it followed by "on all fronts."
These have been the essential historic reasons why the territories are not "occupied." Israel's right to reject this improper description also stems from its incontrovertible legal right to security and self- defense. Because transformation of West Bank (Judea/Samaria) and Gaza into an Arab state of Palestine would threaten the very existence of Israel, the Jewish State is under no current obligation to relinquish control. Its rights, in this regard, are peremptory.
International law is not a suicide pact. Anyone who takes the trouble to look at a map of the region will discover that Israel and the territories, comprising an area less than half the size of San Bernadino County in California, cannot afford to yield its already minimal "strategic depth." In this connection, Israel should take little comfort from the promise of Palestinian demilitarization. Indeed, should the government of Palestine choose to invite foreign armies or territories on to its territory (possibly after the original national government had beendisplaced or overthrown by more militantly anti-Israel forces), it could do so not only without practical difficulties, but also without necessarily violating international law.
The threat posed by an independent Palestinian state would also impact directly upon Jerusalem's nuclear strategy. For the moment, Israel -- still buffered from a hot eastern border by the West Bank -- can afford to keep its bomb "in the basement." If, however, this territory became the heart of "Palestine," Israel would almost certainly have to move from "deliberate ambiguity" to disclosure, a shift that could substantially improve the Jewish state's nuclear deterrence posture but could also enlarge the chances of a nuclear war should this posture fail.
Israel does not hold any "occupied" territories. It is critical that the Government of Israel recognize this, and that it never accept such an incorrect characterization. To do otherwise would be to degrade its very capacity to endure.
© Louis Rene Beres, All Rights Resrved
LOUIS RENE BERES was educated at Princeton (Ph.D., 1971) and is author of many books and articles dealing with the Law of War. He has been a consultant on this matter in both Washington and Jerusalem. Professor Beres's columns appear often in major American, Israeli and European newspapers.
Louis Rene BeresProfessor of International LawDepartment of Political SciencePurdue UniversityWest Lafayette IN 47907 USA"http://www.newswithviews.com/israel/israel16.htm
at 03:45 on March 18th, 2012
There was a mandate region up to 1948 called Palestine. From 48 until 67 there was no Palestine. There was the West Bank of Jordan, a created State and Gaza that was part of Egypt. NO Palestinians existed. Fact: it was Arafat's genius to create a narrative that took hold. Let's at least get the facts straight.
at 17:37 on March 12th, 2012
Zionist propaganda,
International law forbids annexation of any lands by means of war, regardless of the aggressor. Furthermore, these lands were basically barren of Ashkenazi Jews for almost two thousand years. Shameless propaganda.
The Palestinians are genetically more similar than the Ashkenazi Jews to Biblical Era Jews (many of whom are derived from the Mongol-Turkic Khazar converts in the early middle ages in Eastern Europe having no ethnic/genetic relationship with any of the original twelve tribes of Judah). SEE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People
at 03:48 on March 18th, 2012
PF. I think this will be the last response ever to your comments on any blog. Your comments about Zionism, Jews and Israel are distasteful, Racist, and at times anti-semitic.
Now Public will have to deal with you and the few that still engage you. This is not a sharing of differing views but outright hatred by you and your comments coming right out the anti-Semitic book: protocols of zion.
at 05:57 on March 18th, 2012
Tikun,
The only anti-Semitism in this article and comment thread is directed against Arab Muslims. If you had an iota of objectivity, you would be chiding YankeeJim for citing a genocidal article written by a rabid Zionist "intellectual", suggesting that the Palestinians have no historical homeland or right to the territories in which they dwell. You are the distasteful racist, and in most of the civilized world, your ideas supporting the occupation and genocide of the Palestinians is considered to be fascist. Like the Americans, without whom Israel would be an internationally sanctioned pariah state, you resort to threats and bullying when confronted with facts and opinions you do not like.
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irony (not verified)at 06:06 on March 18th, 2012
you resort to threats and bullying when confronted with facts and opinions you do not like. For a taste of sublime irony please read peacefrogs other articles in which he rabidly attacks those who dont share his amusingly paranoid beliefs. Please pay particular attention to his foaming at the mouth when his statistics are questioned and his amusing attempts to side-step.
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irony (not verified)at 05:08 on March 18th, 2012
He has snuck a bit of 'the thirteenth tribe' in there as well. A very popular book for the anti-semites.
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hasbarajusthasbara (not verified)at 06:05 on March 18th, 2012
Prof Beres is hardly an unbiased source. He is Director of ACPR who's mission states: in part: Territories for PeaceIsrael, a tiny democracy, whose total area is 600 times smaller than that of its enemies, is being demanded to give up precisely the very asset it does not have – territory. In exchange, its enemies, 21 Muslim tyrannies, are being asked to provide the one and only thing they do not have – peace.Hardly an academic stance but more a position of bias looking to support arguments with half truths. It is unlikely that he holds an objective view or states objective legal interpretation. . Under international law it is unequivocally stated that Israel is occupying territories. Ask the only legitimate non-state international authority o that - the UN. Tikun hates facts, they challenge his one sided narrative. Whenever he is challenged by facts he spits the anti-Semite rhetoric and storms off. He just cannot accept that there are those who have valid criticisms of Israel's policies based on evidence not some bigoted position. In taking that behavior as his repetitive pattern, he acts like a bigot himself.
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 16:18 on March 18th, 2012
If one accepts a people as "Palestinian" and that this new State Palestine exists in accord equal to all others with in the same region and time deriving from the British Mandate, then one has to also accept that as a nation they, the Palestinian people, have chosen migration and refugee status above any defense of that nationhood. To counter what may be du jour for some in blaming the Israeli for the Palestinian dysphoria, one must fairly question the position taken to not hold the Palestinian government, the people, the Palestinian nation responsible for their ultimate condition. In truth all one has to do is look at the leadership of the Palestinian since conception and their stated "national" policy. Immediately it becomes impossible to blame anyone but the Palestinian for their dysphoria. To cast the blame on any other party is to excuse the complete and total neglect of a people by those who they had lead them to such a pathetic condition. Anything else injected into the argument is semantics to further the blame game. Any accommodation of blaming Israel for the Palestinian dysphoria is a very weak attempt to limit if not eliminate the ability to criticize the ethics of the Palestinian authorities and the Palestinian peoples neglect of the responsibilities governing nationhood.
at 18:23 on March 18th, 2012
It has been often said of the Palestinians that they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Anyone with some knowledge of the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians will agree there is some truth to that. Also, realize that as an occupied territory, the Palestinians are in a weaker position in negotiations, and, to some extent, your argument can be interpreted as a scapegoating of Palestinians for the failure of both parties in previous negotiations.
Although I am lambasted here as an anti-Semite, in truth, I do not believe that Israel should be given back any more than the Americans should give back California, Arizona, etc. In reality, any moderate would see the situation similarly to President Jimmy Carter, i.e., "peace not apartheid". For suggesting an equitable and workable solution, Carter, who has the best reputation of any ex-President for his worldwide humanitarian work, has been labeled and vilified as a so-called "anti-Semite".
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 20:52 on March 18th, 2012
What part of holding people responsible for their own governing is scapegoating? Your argument is specious to say the least and unreasoned. The Israeli occupation of PAL territory did not come first, so again one must look at the "Palestinian" policies that produced their condition of being occupied and hold the Palestinian responsible for their actions. The fact that Arafat and his Fatah started their trouble making from Jordanian West Bank, and then making their attacks from Syria, before taking it on the road to Lebanon wont go amiss from the eye of those looking at the facts not the myth of Palestinian Liberation. A people who had no need to be liberated before making attacks on Israel and her citizens. President Carter's opinions are not mine. His comments place the onus on the Israeli and the rest of the world to carry the "Palestinian". We've been doing that for sixty odd years to no avail. So my opinion of Carter's opinion is he should focus on homes for humanity or whatever and stay out of politics. It is as easy to label someone antisemitic as it is to blame the Palestinian dysphoria on Israel and the Jews. One begets the other. The Fatah/PLO policy and what has become enshrined into the political Charter of HAMAS, *to establish an Islamic state in the area that is now Israel* -is a failed policy by failed leadership. The "Palestinian" Authority is a one trick pony who's race is lost. In sixty years they have managed to become nothing and to contribute no thing to not only their own as a society but, human society, the world at large. [[There are some things the jihad against Israel and the Jews can buy. The promise of Paradise; a harem of 72 virgins, rivers of honey and wine. For everything else, there's a Jordanian passport.]] A little play on the old Master Card ads as told to me by a man wanting to be accepted as "Jordanian" while relating his journeys from the Palestinian refugee camps and the treatment and attitudes he had to endure from his fellow Muslim/Arabs. It shamed him to have to say that it had taken every penny he had ever earned until he was 42 years old and managed to reach the US to be actually free from the reach of the indoctrination of the Pal/Arab liberation myth.
at 04:19 on March 19th, 2012
Yeah, we've been really hard on Israel. All that military aid and all those U.S. lone Veto's at the U.N. Security Council, all the tough love AIPAC money can buy. I suppose you favor new land grab settlements in the West Bank too? Really objective!
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 07:01 on March 19th, 2012
And all the US Dollars, European Euros, and Arab Shekels keeping the Palestinian dysphoria alive and growing. Israel has according to 2012 Senate report received 115 billion in total US aid which works out to about 1.91billion a year on average. World aid to Palestinians equals ~2billion/year not counting NGO's. Population of Palestine ~3.8 million. Population of Israel ~7.8million. The numbers say the Palestinian is raking in more aid per capita than the Israeli. Keep digging. Eventually you'll come across a statistic that will prove the Israeli is actually getting more of a return on their contribution to society. In the mean time the Palestinian is profiting well as your "innocent" victim. - AND P.S. Unlike you I don't pretend to be objective. Nothing disgusts me more than the intentional abuse of a people by those who hold themselves up as their betters and natural born leaders. For me that disgust is epitomized by the "Palestinian Authority". In my books there is nothing innocent about the Palestinian leadership who victimize their own in the name of religious terrorism and hate. Your support of such behavior I'll never understand. Then again it's probably because YOU are so objective. LOL.
at 10:28 on March 19th, 2012
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/14/vt-exclusive-atzmon-palestinian-infighting-reveals-underbelly-of-gutless-duplicity/
Gordon Duff, Editor of Veterans Today, and former Special Forces has a lot of connections in military and intelligence circles. He believes that part of the "Palestinian leadership" problem is that it has been hijacked by Israeli interests and is in effect a Leninist "controlled opposition". Your thoughts on this 30.6?
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 15:16 on March 19th, 2012
For the Arab confined by circumstance of birth to endure between the oppression of the Palestinian Authority or an equally dismal future of the refugee camps. Which is all one and the same. That it could be for them no more obvious that the "Palestinian" leaderships history of religious terrorism over national governance always appears to the "Palestinian" to best serve Israel. Since Arafat and Fatah/PLO every "Palestinian" has looked across the border and seen and compared existence and opportunities. Human envy alone would create conspiracy rather than ever believe, accept that their "leadership" has for all the billions upon billions in WORLD aid brought them to such a condition that the best term to identify that condition derives descriptively from mental disorders. The Palestinian Dysphoria. "Palestinians" either hate themselves for allowing and accepting their condition and never demanding, fighting for proper leadership, or they can look across the border to a prosperous and properly working "nation" and focus that hate on the people there. Are we really surprised that it is the Israeli that must carry the brunt of that hate?
at 19:52 on March 18th, 2012
lol_Jim what have you got started here. Been reading these comments. Just stopping by_ Strong opinions here..
Additional comment_
Looks like more 'reasoned' minds have now begun to look at this issue with some understanding in these last few comments. I must add I also appreciate and respect tikun views and commentary, since he actually lives in Israel. I would not pretend to know more or understand as deeply the nuances to these issues as someone who has grown up and lived in Israel all his life. I certainly would not be able to understand as deeply the complexities to that region, it's invovled history, religious challenges, ethnic past, or the Israeli/Palestinian conflict_as someone who's entire history it actually involves.
I believe, as most Americans probably also realize from our rather dismal record in mideast affairs shows, we don't always truly understand with depth the complexities of the mideast as well as we like to think we do as Americans..
at 04:36 on March 19th, 2012
1,
I suppose that your lack of cultural knowledge extends to your not having much of an opinion on the former system of Apartheid in South Africa? Former Jim Crowe laws in the deep South of America? Maybe even the slave trade that ended several centuries ago?
at 11:50 on March 19th, 2012
You make a point actually_If you had actually grown up and lived within any of those examples you mention, would you still have come to the same opinion as you do today.. As they say, hindsight is always 20/20..