End the Patraeus Afghan experiment

Don't know what the absolute solution is over there YJ. Obviously there are layers of complexities involved in any scenario. Iraq really wasn't any success story either considering the cost, destruction, and deaths involved. But we did achieve an influence there where we didn't have one before. I believe our aim is the same in Afghanistan. Influence is the true aim and not specific control. Somewhat corrupt radical governments in the middle east is a fact of life that American is adapting it's influence with today. Countries like Yeman, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, Syria etc all players in this mix. There is no winning in this game, more a balance of America's national security needs within a mideast doctrine of religious intolerance and radical Islam ideology.

Below is a counter view of two muslims which puts in sharp contrast our own views in America..

"Imagine how it would look like if the Taliban and other (unofficial) resistant Muslim groups did not confront that brutal Western Crusade after the official regimes in most Muslim countries had submitted to the US and its allies, and disappointedly joined the so-called war on terror (correctly the war on Islam). Had these brave resistant groups not been there, the Western invaders would have subjected Muslims to the bone, and would have even dictated on them how to perform their worship. Thanks to Allah, the invaders have almost been defeated, and are now trying to find a way out of Afghanistan. But look, what are the Taliban and other resistant groups in the Muslim world vs the world's superpower (the USA) and its allies? Definitely there is no comparison, but it is Allah's promise to his Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not to enable the enemies of this Ummah (the Muslim Nation) to subject it. Verily, victory is only from Allah the Almighty. May the Muslim rulers realize this fact and go back to Allah"
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"No, I am rather disillusioned and seeing facts as they are. We Muslims are no longer deceived by the Western hackneyed false excuses of bringing democracy and civilized way of life..etc. Just suffice to remind you that drug trafficking in Afghanistan was zero under the rule of the Taliban, and it is now booming under the "civilized" Western occupation, so the Taliban are surely much better and more scrupulous than the USA and its allies, whose fake morals and principles are always "on auction" to whoever pays more, regardless of any ethical concerns. The US and other Western countries keep on criticizing Muslim nations for lack of democracy and violation of human rights, while they are hypocritically maintaining the best of friendly relations with despotic Muslim rulers, of course, for the sake of business and implementation of Western vicious goals. I am not blinded by hatred as you say, but guided by facts on the ground. Give me one reason I should love the West for planting the Zionists in Palestine and giving them support to kill the Palestinians and kick them out of their homeland? For vetoing any UN resolution condemning Israel for its genocidal crimes against the Palestinians? For occupying Afghanistan and Iraq, robbing them of their resources and killing almost 1.5 million innocent people? For the inhuman treatment and sadism against Muslim prisoners jailed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo? For bullying Muslim citizens living in the West and arresting them on suspicion? And the list is too long to be mentioned in a comment like this one, but would rather need a long article, if not a book."

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