English Riots Aftermath

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2nd August 2011

Cameron in Bullingdon riot row with BBC

The Prime Minister, was challenged by Evan Davis on BBC Radio 4's Today programme this morning about being a member of Oxford University's notorious Bullingdon Club - where members are known for outrageous behaviour including smashing up restaurants, smoking cannabis and getting insanely drunk.

Davis said ."I don't want to equate it to the riots, I don't want to harp on about it but the Bullingdon Club, you know that's a youthful gang, you could almost call it, engages in violent behaviour, do you see any likeness in that to what occurred?"

The Prime Minister insisted: "We all do stupid things when we are young and we should learn the lessons".

But Mr Davis pressed on, questioning Mr Cameron on whether he had witnessed "people throwing things through windows and smashing up restaurants".

Mr Cameron denied seeing any such acts of violence, adding: "But I think what we saw in terms of the riots was actually very well organised in many cases looting and stealing and thieving."

David Cameron spoke out about the way that our state-funded broadcaster the BBC reported the riots saying that the corporation promoted Left-wing ideas and was "mushing together" all social ills as an excuse for doing nothing.

Listen to the interview HERE

thisislondon.co.uk

4th September 2011

What Cameron should have said on Today is that anyone in the Bullingdon Club who breaks the law deserves punishment every bit as tough as the Brixton rioter. That was the correct and obvious answer to Davis’s probing, and the fact that he didn't say as much was ever so slightly alarming. The PM likes to declare that it doesn’t matter where you come from, but where you are heading, which is a nice slogan, but light years distant from political reality. If Cameron is serious about tackling social breakdown – and I believe he is – he cannot make such slips.

telegraph.co.uk


14th August 2011

Mr Cameron's Aftermath Sinks Public Faith In Him

The Prime Minister, who is facing unprecedented criticism from the public and the police alike, will use a speech in his Oxfordshire constituency to underline his personal leadership in dealing with the root causes of last week’s violence and will say he has the strength to “take on and defeat” social problems caused by a weak and “demoralised” state.

Both police and politicians faced criticism for the slow initial response to the riots, but Mr Cameron will declare: “I will not be found wanting.”

The aftermath of the disturbances has seen relations between the Government and the police sink to a new low. Four police chiefs yesterday made public attacks on Mr Cameron’s law-and-order agenda.

One chief constable told The Daily Telegraph that the Prime Minister had been “disrespectful” and risks losing the support of the police.

telegraph.co.uk

21st August 2011

Ex Prime minister Tony Blair in an article in the Observer, said that there was no problem with moral standards in society generally. The riots, he said, were primarily caused by a minority of disaffected and alienated young people who were outside the social mainstream and who constituted "an absolutely specific problem that requires deeply specific solutions".

guardian.co.uk

Prince Charles

Prince Charles announced a £2.5 million investment in the places hardest hit across Britain by the outbreaks of looting and violence.

The Prince's Trust plans to double its support for young people in Manchester, Birmingham and the London areas of Hackney, Tottenham and Croydon.

As well as committing £1 million from funds already raised, the charity is calling on the business community to back a £1.5 million fundraising drive to bring in the rest of the money.

Youths who join gangs are making a 'cry for help' because they lack a 'sense of belonging', Prince Charles said today as he met families whose lives were devastated by the riots.

The Prince of Wales put the criminal actions of looters and rioters down to an excess of youthful 'energy and natural aggression' that just needs to be channeled in a constructive way.

'I still think half the problem is that people join gangs because it's a cry for help. They are looking for a framework, a sense of belonging and meaning.

'Part of the problem is in the schools. There is not enough extra curricular activities. I don't believe there is enough organised games or other sorts of activities because when you are an adolescent - I still think I remember it - you have got so much energy and natural aggression half the battle is how to channel it in a sensible and constructive way.'

dailymail.co.uk

Ed Miliband

Labour leader Ed Miliband today renewed his calls for a full-scale inquiry and accused Mr Cameron of being 'scared' to look into the real causes of social breakdown and accused ministers of engaging in 'finger-pointing' concerning the police.

dailymail.co.uk

David Cameron

The prime minister pledged to tackle the "moral collapse" in Britain today as he dismissed claims that the coalition's austerity measures were behind last week's devastating riots. "These riots were not about Government cuts: they were directed at high street stores, not Parliament.

"And these riots were not about poverty: that insults the millions of people who, whatever the hardship, would never dream of making others suffer like this.

"No, this was about people showing indifference to right and wrong, people with a twisted moral code, people with a complete absence of self-restraint.

independent.co.uk

Welsh First Minister Carwyn Jones

David Cameron's policies are “severely” undermining efforts to tackle joblessness and cuts to the police budget would “hurt our communities”. Conservative-Liberal Democrat polices were a threat to both safety and employment in Wales.

What hurts Welsh families the most is the scourge of unemployment. As a Government, we are determined to do all that we can to get people into work, and trying to keep people in their jobs. However, the UK Government’s decision to cut public sector jobs in Wales severely undermines our efforts

Cuts to police numbers will hurt our communities. A report published this morning by Cardiff University shows that UK Government grant funding for local policing will fall by £1.36bn, or 14%, over the next four years – meaning 16,000 frontline posts could be lost.

“What the people of Wales want to see is more, not fewer police out on the street keeping our communities safe.”

walesonline.co.uk

Lib Dem views on Cameron

Liberal Democrat politicians indicated on Tuesday that they have deep concerns over David Cameron's uncompromising post-riots law-and-order agenda, with the party's home affairs spokeswoman in the Lords saying there should be "zero tolerance with zero tolerance".

David Ward, MP for Bradford East, described plans to withdraw offenders' benefits as "nuts", and Tessa Munt, the MP for Wells, said the plans were "bonkers, bonkers, bonkers". She said: "Frankly, this all smacks of headline grabbing by Conservatives, not calm, rational policy-making."

The vice-chair of the party's federal policy committee, Evan Harris, said he would table an amendment at the party conference asking members to vote to block Cameron's contemplation of barring individuals suspected of causing social unrest from Twitter and Facebook.

Lady Hamwee, who led the Lords revolt against Tory plans for elected police commissioners earlier this year, said the pledge by the prime minister of zero tolerance on criminality was taking matters too far.

Tom Brake said: "Clearly there are cases where offenders who have committed very serious crimes should expect very serious sentences and that is what I expect to happen. But there have been some cases where people who have committed petty offences have received sentences which, if they had committed the same offence the day before the riots, they would not have received a sentence of that nature.

guardian.co.uk

Whitney youth club speech

The prime minister's fightback speech a week after he sped back from Tuscany failed to display the consistency or understanding needed after last week's riots.  His visits to Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Salford have been woefully quickfire affairs, mostly enacted behind closed doors and seems strange that although he has been to Croydon, Tottenham, Hackney and Peckham they have yet to be graced by his presence.

Cameron said that within the lifetime of this parliament he will turn around the lives of the 120,000 most troubled families in the country, though much of the surrounding Tory noise suggests unlikely methods of doing so: evicting them from their homes and cutting their benefits?

And so to one of the more baffling no-shows: a public inquiry. There is no point in mincing words: it is insane that after events of such horror and gravity the prime minister would not commit to one – instead pushing a fuzzy across-the-board policy review "to mend our broken society". Thirty years ago William Whitelaw commissioned the Scarman inquiry two days after the Brixton riots of April 1981 had ended.

guardian.co.uk

The Northern Ireland view

Local government budgets have been cut dramatically in the past year and Haringey Council, which includes Tottenham, has closed eight of its 13 youth clubs.

Just a week before the riots erupted, the Guardian interviewed youngsters in Haringey, one of whom actually predicted riots because there was no longer an alternative to keep people off the streets.

What was evident during the riots, as police resources were hopelessly stretched, was that looters breaking shop windows believed themselves to be beyond the reach of the law - not unlike those youthful members of the Bullingdon Club.

belfasttelegraph.co.uk


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Dasfgrt

How can an ex-member of the Bullingdon club lecture anyone about lack of morals in the young. The Cameronian feral rich are every bit as bad as the feral poor, arguably worse as they don't have poverty and lack of hope as an excuse

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Piobar

I do not understand how Mr Cameron can claim any "leadership" at all during the recent events. An actual leader ACTs, they do not react, or respond with disapproving looks to a crisis, they need to face it, and attempt to deal with it. All I saw from Davie was finger-wagging, scowls, and a lot of hot air. The violence was all but over, by the point he seemed to be interested in taking any action at all, in a desparate attempt to seem proactive and tough on the criminals. But his measures are somewhat like using a slegdehammer to kill a mosquito, causing more problems for those not involved in any criminal activity rather than actually solving the issues that caused the outbreak to begin with.

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Joe Public 2011

What about our EU referendum Dave, you might have forgotten ( think you got away with it ) but a lot of people have not.

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liamssoft

Violence and wanton destruction can never be condoned, but the most important and totally neglected problem is David Cameron's cuts, which have removed a large proportion of peoples earnings and completely removed the only income youths in full time education had of £30 per week from EMA.  The atmosphere left is one of 'how long will I be able to survive, what can I do to be able to feed my family,  how am I going to be able to pay my bills'?

Deliver a policy to create much needed jobs Mr. Cameron then we might believe you!!!


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Excon

I suppose you could say that all the Conservative Numpties that elected Conservatives into power deserve what they getThey have elected a complete and utter idiot who hasn't a clue in how to take the Country forwardAnd as for unemployment, what Company would open up in the UK where the skills shortage is huge and education is falling off a cliffBlame everyone else mentality for their own misgivings is what Conservative is all about

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Piobar

The problem is, those numpties stick together, and watch out for each other. It is the rank and file who will suffer from poor leadership. Their main goal is to stay rich, their secondary goal is to get richer without letting others claw their way up to that level from the dunghill. Any good they MIGHT do is anecdotal. Inbred aristocrats have been replaced with brain-dead rich brats, not that the two are mutually exclusive, but the story is the same. They may not CALL us serfs and peons anymore, at least in public. But that is what we are to the likes of Mr Cameron and his ilk; those of us who need to work for a living are simply the muscle, or the tax producers, or the consumers. But it would be no different with Labour at the helm, they are just more condescending and pious, but equally self-serving. Politicians are spineless, by nature; I have seen squid with more back-bone than the average MP, but that doesn't mean they are harmless... give my a Hobbsian Leviathan over an "egalitarian Member of Parliament" or "Prime Minister" any day.

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bonkers

Cameron is bonkers, bonkers, bonkers!!!

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liamssoft

On April 4, 2010 the Westminster correspondent of the Financial Times blogged that, in 1987, while a student at Oxford, the future prime minister had been part of a 'raucous evening' involving the 10-strong 'Bullingdon Club'.

Hours after they had posed for a photograph in matching top hats and tails, they were chased by police through the city streets after a pot had been thrown through a restaurant window.

While others spent a night in the cells, Cameron and Boris Johnson - now mayor of London - made good their escapes.

A Channel Four docu-drama on the pair had previously revealed that the modus operandi of the club was to book a restaurant in a false name, smash it up and then throw large amounts of money at the owners.

The revelation was lost in the run-up to last year's General Election, but shortly before the poll Cameron made a major speech on the theme of the 'broken society'.

belfasttelegraph.co.uk

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