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Ex-Muslim Tells the Pope That Islam is a Religion of war
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by ChristopherL | October 29, 2008 at 10:29 am
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at 10:30 on October 29th, 2008
Magdi Allam the Egyptian born ex-Muslim who the Pope had sensationally converted to Christianity on national TV last Easter, has come out against one of the Pope's Cardinals, who has said that Islam is a religion of peace and that some Muslims have betrayed Islam. Mr. Allam has said that terrorism is breed from Islam and the actions of Mohammad. I say that we take the word of the ex-Muslim over the either politically correct or ignorant Cardinal.
Muslim convert to Catholicism tells Pope Islam is not inherently good
By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The Muslim-born journalist baptized by Pope Benedict XVI at Easter asked the pope to tell his top aide for relations with Muslims that Islam is not an intrinsically good religion and that Islamic terrorism is not the result of a minority gone astray.
As the Vatican was preparing to host the first meeting of the Catholic-Muslim Forum Nov. 4-6, Magdi Allam, a longtime critic of the Muslim faith of his parents, issued an open letter to Pope Benedict that included criticism of Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.
In the letter, posted on his Web site Oct. 20, Allam said he wanted to tell the Pope of his concern for "the serious religious and ethical straying that has infiltrated and spread within the heart of the church."
He told the Pope that it "is vital for the common good of the Catholic Church, the general interest of Christianity and of Western civilization itself" that the Pope make a pronouncement in "a clear and binding way" on the question of whether Islam is a valid religion.
The Catholic Church's dialogue with Islam is based on the Second Vatican Council's Declaration on the Relationship of the Church to Non-Christian Religions ("Nostra Aetate"), which urged esteem for Muslims because "they adore the one God," strive to follow his will, recognize Jesus as a prophet, honor his mother, Mary, "value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting."
The council called on Catholics and Muslims "to work sincerely for mutual understanding" and for social justice, moral values, peace and freedom.
Allam told Pope Benedict he specifically objected to Cardinal Tauran telling a conference in August that Islam itself promotes peace but that "'some believers' have 'betrayed their faith,'" using it as a pretext for violence.
"The objective reality, I tell you with all sincerity and animated by a constructive intent, is exactly the opposite of what Cardinal Tauran imagines," Allam told the pope. "Islamic extremism and terrorism are the mature fruit" of following "the sayings of the Quran and the thought and action of Mohammed."
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at 12:52 on October 29th, 2008
This man is full of contradictions.
It's not every day that a Muslim intellectual puts his own head on the line to defend Israel's right to exist. But that is exactly what Magdi Allam, an Egyptian-born Italian writer and journalist, has been doing for years. He recently published a book whose name alone is enough to endanger his life: "Long Live Israel - From the Ideology of Death to the Civilization of Life: My Story."
Allam defends Israel even though Hamas condemned him to death in 2003, after he denounced the group's terror attacks. Because of this threat, the Italian government has provided him with round-the-clock bodyguards. But Allam is not afraid. He finds it hard to "live an armored life," but he tells Haaretz in an interview, "I'm willing to pay the price in order to continue to be who I am, to write and speak freely." Those who cut out tongues and slit throats will not subdue him, he writes in the book.
Allam, 55, is the assistant editor of Corriere della Sera and the 2006 Dan David Prize laureate. His new book, which immediately became a best-seller in Italy, is part of his consistent and uncompromising fight against extremist Islam and for Israel's right to exist. In addition, he is trying to convince people that "the culture of hatred and death that the West now attributes to Muslims is not embedded in Islam's DNA."
Only two years ago and apparently he has changed his mind.
at 13:48 on October 29th, 2008
It is also important to remember that their is a war between Sunni and shea muslims.
Shea muslims believe in a figure called the Magdi, that has been given by the sheas some of the attributes of Jesus.
Judging by the name of this man he is a shea and therefor was not a proper muslim to begin with.
To be a muslim you have to worship God alone, shea muslims worship saints as well as God, they are not traditional muslims.
Sunni muslims make up 80 percent of the worlds muslims, sheas make up 15 percent and Sufis make up the remaining 5 percent.
Sheas are primarily found in Iraq and Iran, most Egyptians are Sunni.
This man wants to anger muslims and creat conflict between Sunnies and sheas.
One of the rules of being a shea is that you can keep the fact that you are a shea secret.
Perhaps that is what he is doing by pretending to be a Catholic. And now he has the Popes ear.
at 13:46 on October 29th, 2008
Please read my clarifying comments. Personally I think its illinformed stuff.
at 13:54 on October 29th, 2008
"To be a muslim you have to worship God alone, shea muslims worship saints as well as God, they are not traditional muslims"
Who's shia in particular that told you that they also worship saints aside from God? And do you mean traditional muslims are the real muslims? Am just curious, please enlighten me, in the name of fair judgment and logic. Thanks!
at 15:09 on October 29th, 2008
Fair, fair to who, all the Muslims who are destroying Europe? The ones that have been killing the Hindus for centuries or the ones in China who want their own state and are killing the Chinese police? The list could go on an on.
at 13:55 on October 29th, 2008
Maybe that is because two years ago he was a Muslim and now he has left Islam as he has seen the truth.
at 15:17 on October 29th, 2008
Thanks sputnic.
at 17:14 on October 29th, 2008
might as well include those who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. those who bombed innocent civilians too in the Gulf. those who have been scouring the earth to find the WMD but still unfound and so waged war instead..
at 22:00 on October 29th, 2008
ChristopherL, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 12:51 on October 30th, 2008
All sheas worship saints, it is part of their religion. Its not like barry the shea woke up one morning and decided to start!
at 12:52 on October 30th, 2008
All sheas worship saints, it is part of their religion. Its not like Fred the shea woke up one morning and decided to start!
at 12:53 on October 30th, 2008
All sheas worship saints, it is part of their religion. Its not like Fred the shea woke up one morning and decided to start!
at 19:42 on October 30th, 2008
Sputnic, can you point to me any authentic shia resources that says so? so far, what you have written here are all pure seemingly an opinion of yours. Any shia book title, with shia author, page number, chapter?
at 11:24 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:24 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:25 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:25 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:26 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:26 on October 31st, 2008
Go to a shea mosque and ask someone, google shea and see what it says, look on wikipedia. This isn't my opinion it is their religion (practiced more as a cultural difference than an authentic one) If for some reason google and other options dont work find a muslim looking dude and say "hi muslim dude, are you sunni or shea" if he says shea ask him and if he says sunni ask him too
at 11:58 on October 31st, 2008
wow, you are very good at spamming. 1 question for you and you post the same reply 6 times
at 12:18 on October 31st, 2008
How is that spamming ? It is software glitch. Stop wasting my time go and speak to random brothers
at 22:09 on October 31st, 2008
am i wasting your time by asking a valid question? for all i know my questions and remarks are very well related to what you have been writing here.
at 01:03 on November 1st, 2008
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at 01:04 on November 1st, 2008
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at 18:16 on April 4th, 2009
I agree with you Spuntnic.