The Favor Jimmy Carter Did Us All

by Karen Hatter | September 19, 2009 at 06:33 am
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Making note of the delicate nature of any discussion of race in America, while dismissing those critics that tend to cry out that stating there are those who do oppose President Obama and his administration due to his race is a statement that says all who oppose the President as "not true" , Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post writes:


Of course it's possible to reject Obama's policies and philosophy without being racist. But there's a particularly nasty edge to the most vitriolic attacks -- a rejection not of Obama's programs but of his legitimacy as president. This denial of legitimacy is more pernicious than the abuse heaped upon George W. Bush by his critics (including me), and I can't find any explanation for it other than race.


I'm not talking about the majority of the citizens who went to town hall meetings to criticize Obama's plans for health-care reform or the majority of the "tea bag" demonstrators who complain that Obama is ushering in an era of big government. Those are, of course, legitimate points of view. Protest is part of our system. It's as American as apple pie.


I'm talking about the crazy "birthers." I'm talking about the nitwits who arrive at protest rallies bearing racially offensive caricatures -- Obama as a witch doctor, for example. I'm talking about the idiots who toss around words like "socialism" to make Obama seem alien and even dangerous -- who deny the fact that he, too, is as American as apple pie.


Click here to read Pulitzer Prize winning author Eugene Robinson's article.


 


Also at NowPublic :


Why There is Danger in Ignoring Racism in America 


 

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Karen Hatter

Good morning. Any staff, please help! I have attempted several times to remove the hyperlink while highlighting without success. Thanks.

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Karen Hatter

Thanks, Albertacowpoke and Sara Star for your assistance! It is greatly appreciated.

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albertacowpoke

Very welcome:)

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J2B

Karen, a good post on a very crazy subject!

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Karen Hatter

Thank you, J2B.

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Kenneth Jones

Calling the protesters all racist is stupid....AMERICA elected him...obviously if they were all racist would not have...plus, last time I check Obama had a WHITE mother.....perhaps those DISCOUNTING that are the racist....or does she not count?

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Roy C

Projection: what happens when thieves won't acknowledge they steal and go around paranoid worrying about thieves being everywhere.

When people make accusations of moral failure of others, the accused will often ask the obvious: has the accuser lived up to the standard?

If black America refuses to come to terms with its own racism, then the accusation of racism in whites will always be amplified beyond the reality of the situation. The whites who do this, who agree, are whites in denial of their own un-overcome racism and project it onto other whites.

Beyond that, there will be resistance to any objective test of the hypothesis that racism is less than described.  No accountability. No possibility of verification or falsification.

The accusation becomes a self-fulfilling bit of circular reasoning.

Racism exists. The reason people disagree with that is that they are racists. The disagreement proves that the accusation is correct.

From pseudo-logic such as this, Inquisitions are born.

And from Inquisitions such as this, accusers sew strife and civil unrest and even civil war can result.

For years, P2, an deviant Masonic lodge in Italy, sought to create conditions for a war between the right and the left to give an excuse for a coup.

You create the conditions for instability, and out of the civil unrest, you impose martial law, and you will look justified to round up your political enemies.

This won't happen, but it is not because the left doesn't want to do this. Nancy Pelosi's crocodile tears, Carter's accusations- they are all meant as subterfuge by the "weak" to create an atmosphere of sympathy in which harder measure will look justified.

Once again: until black America acknowledges its own racism and the whites who agree acknowledge their own, the degree of racism by whites in the US will be overestimated. This is called "projection", and projection is at the root of all unnecessary civil unrest that tears at the fabric of community.

If Colin Powell were president, we would not be having this discussion. His policies and ideas are real-world tested from several tours of duty in Vietnam, and his role as a general in several campaigns.

Powell is an adult. Obama is what the Jungians call a "puer", a Peter Pan figure who has not grown up, who is taken by his own fairy tales about what can be done in life.

Obama's wings are getting clipped. That is all that is happening. Racism manifest in some of the demonstrators is less than what was commonplace about Bush in terms of the expression of extremes.

We forget so quickly. There was an actual movie made about the assassination of Bush, which got an award (where?) in a Canadian film festival (where else in North America!).

Bush was regularly compared to Hitler, which meant all of us who supported the war, not his handling of it, were Nazis. What a great projection that was of personal evil onto others.

So, if we subtract all the extreme imagery of Bush-level intensity, we don't see anymore wild accusations against Obama then we saw against Bush.

Result: accusation of racism falsified.

Let me repeat that.

To judge the moral failings of others, you must overcome them first in yourself. My African-American wife and I are both aware of existing racism on both sides and we just got done discussing something that happened to her the other day.

We don't exaggerate nor minimize the racism because we see it on both sides.

If you want to make an accusation, you must quantify it at some point and have an operational definition and a means to assess accuracy and precision.

Vague statements about extremists without numbers encourage projection, the finding of racism in others by those who can't seem to find it in themselves.

Looking at what happened in the Bush years, movies about assassination and the rest, the degree of vitriol is actually less and less dangerous in the protests against Obama then it was against Bush.

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The_Cynic

Roy - as in all anticipation, when are you going to pen this 'black-racism' piece? I am looking forward to reading it.

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Roy C

It would just be an amplified version of what I have just written. In the meantime, you might want to read the original uncensored version of The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

Originally, in Mecca, Malcolm X gets it that he is a racist. One more reason to get out of Elijah Muhammed's Black Muslim group.

After the early '90s, that part of the autobiography was taken out of the book.

Thanks for the comment and I will start.

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Karen Hatter

TC, a possible representative sample to read, at your leisure:

The 44th Anniversary of the Assassination of Malcolm X

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Roy C

Yes, a real piece of revisionist history where the real bad guys, being black, are shoved aside, and white guys, CoIntelpro FBI, become figures in the center stage of the event.

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Karen Hatter

Roy, you mistate what is written in the piece however, your attempts to bully me are on full display in my article as well.

Please do not attempt to do so at this thread.  

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Roy C

No,Karen. That is an actual legitimate review. It is not a personal comment. It is about the article. No one is entitled to bully the truth.

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Karen Hatter

Roy, you have been told on several occasions by NowPublic staff that you cannot direct me to write my commentary to include your opinions, which is what your views are, YOUR opinion.

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Amy Judd

Ok, this fight has been played out before - we don't want this again on a front page story. Please keep the comments on topic or take it to a private message as I wouldn't want to have to shut down the comment thread here on a story that could be so interesting and enlightening.

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Roy C

One more thing: Carter is a putz!

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Chevalier de Pas

Roy

Anyone that thinks differently than you is a putz, that is interesting, needs a psychological study I think.

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QueensHart

So someone tell me.  Is this comment by Chevalier de Pas not a personal rude comment?

What is and not is amazing .

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Chevalier de Pas

QueensHart

I have noticed a pattern on your comments, are you Roy's official speaker

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Amy Judd

Chevalier de Pas stop your comments like this - as you commented while I was writing my last comment, this is the final personal attack I will take today.

We suspend members for stuff like this just to let you know.

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Amy Judd

Queenshart you need to stop this.

I am the only staff member on today - I am writing stories, getting pictures, chasing leads, monitoring comment threads, clearing up spam, removing copyrighted photos and videos and making sure we have all the major news stories covered for today. This is fine, that's my job, but I cannot be everywhere at once.

I find your comment to be so unnecessary and please refain from trying to make some kind of point by commenting like this.

I have not revisted this thread since I made my original comment. That is definitely a personal attack from Chevalier de Pas and if there are any more from anyone on this thread, I am closing it.

This is getting ridiculous.

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batvette

I disagree on a distinction.

As a national leader, as President- Carter was an incredible putz. A disaster of a leader, whose crisis of confidence speech of 1979 stands historically alone as an example of how to shirk responsibility from the nation's dismal leadership, blame the people, insult them, and beg them to say "thank you sir, may I have another" and sacrifice even more.

As a man, for his contributions to the poor, especially habitat for humanity, he is a humanitarian a hundred of us cannot stand in the shadow of.

BTW at risk of playing yes man to the devil, your above lengthy composition is pretty much on the money. It's a bitter pill not many wish to believe. Racism is a perfectly natural human fault, to be fearful of and dislike that which is different from you. As long as we accept and understand this, and do not allow ignorance and denial to of it to be blinders from seeing when people let it turn to hatred and bigotry which deprives people from opportunities in housing, employment and other pursuits, we could possibly forge ahead.  

However we are so in denial of it we have it as an accepted discrepency in the left that when nearly a dozen races split worldwide over a hundred centuries ago, going to separate regions, in the time since through natural selection and adaptivity and other factors, the entire human body including all organs evolved leaving distinctly different traits, but for one: the brain, and intelligence. This leaves for the variance in placement testing which is blamed on racism in the makeup of the test.

Curiously the only time any race protests racial stereotypes is when they are negative. Ever hear a black man cry foul over the statistically true stories of his substantial endowment? Never. However tell an Asian man he has a little ting ting and he's going to hit the roof.  If you tell a white chick she can't dance she usually gets a little pissy too. What I'm getting at is if you can say white men can jump (and it's so funny we made a movie, yet when Jimmy the Greek said it he got fired) and we know it's true, relatively speaking, how do we say black men can't do calculus without offending? By accepting racial differences in aptitude in different skills, educational curriculum could further benefit everyone. This is why current attitudes on racism are flawed and unproductive.

Let the fur fly on this one. I have gotten in a few heated debates on the intelligence/race/evolution thing and it's even funnier to see leftist evolution proponents have their views on that smack up against their sympathies for racism, than it is to watch conservative pro lifers rally around bombing swarthy third world  peoples.

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albertacowpoke

We forget so quickly. There was an actual movie made about the assassination of Bush, which got an award (where?) in a Canadian film festival (where else in North America!).

I.m not sure what that statement is supposed to mean.  The film was made by a British Filmmaker, Gabriel Range.   A lot of films debut at the Toronto Film Festival. 

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Roy C

Just an attempt to tweak some  Canadian noses, Mr CowPoke. Nothing serious. And, your nose was not among the intended targets.

The point is that the left in Canada is extreme and what is really extreme comes to pass for "normal". So, instead of being appalled at a film depicting the assassination of our president, the left-wing artsy-fartsy community gives it an award.

Some other example of extremes, American extremes: Randy Rhodes, Air America rabble rouser, called for Bush to be treated as "'Fredo" was in "Godfather II", i.e., shot in the head in the middle of Lake Tahoe.


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albertacowpoke

The centre in Canada is the majority.  The far left and far right are a small part of Canadian political life.  Even the Conservative Alberta government is not governing as an extreme.   People here wouldn't stand for it.

Premier Stelmach is trying to avoid tax increases and is looking for cuts, but that will only go so far.  Eventually he will have to bite the bullet.  People will only stand for cuts so long before they revolt, especially where it concerns Health Care.

The Toronto Film festival is attended by the rich and famous of Hollywood and others in the United States. 

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Rodge

Mr. Robinson's failure to see why some of us view Obama as being unqualified to run the country amazes me.  The man had very little Executive experience if any at all.  He has far less than George Bush had which is why our criticism is sharper.  He never had to meet a payroll and he never had to display leadership in ways that even come close as that the job of POTUS requires.  It had nothing to do with the color of his skin.  Experience is colorblind and he simply did not have it and frankly, he still doesn't.  I have yet to see him step up to the plate the way he needs to.

I wouldn't hire the man to run one of my branches so how can I expect him to run the country.  Oh, and 3 of my Branch Managers are African American and one is Hispanic.  I have 5 branches so do the math.

This Sunday we will see a perfect example of Obama's lack of leadership.  Instead of doing what he needs to do and accomplishing what he feels is important, he is doing the rounds of just about every Sunday morning news show with the exception of Fox News Sunday.  I find that interesting.  Chris Wallace isn't exactly Glenn Beck, I have always found him to be fair.  Instead, Obama chooses to play softball with the others.  (God I miss fellow Buffalonian Tim Russert!)  A leader shouldn't have to take his case to the American people to get their approval, a leader leads regardless of popular opinion.  This man is driven by the polls and that is not what a leader does.  Bush didn't care about the polls and whether you liked or disliked his decisions, he led and got it done. 

The frustration with Obama's lack of leadership is crossing party lines by the way.  If anything, his lack of leadership is hurting him with Democrats more than it is with Republicans. With the Independents, it is destroying him.

Karen I respect your opinion but I disagree with it.  While I think racism may be a factor more for this President than it has with others, I don't feel it is the underlying cause of the dissent.  Racism is alive and well in America and it always will be.  No law or laws will ever change that but it is the exception rather than the rule.  If it was the rule, the man never would have been elected.

In my opinion, the cries of racism are nothing more than an attempt to silence the dissent.

It won't work.


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Karen Hatter

Rodge, repeatedly, on numerous occasions here, at various posted articles, I have stated racism is not the only reason compelling dissent offered in relation to President Obama or the policies enacted and debated in his administration. 

However, I have also stated here :

The inability for people to accept and comprehend that racists in this country do not disagree with specific policies of President Barack Hussein Obama Jr. but that they disagree with the man because of his race lies at the heart of the incredulity of those who attempt to dismiss race as a factor that causes some to oppose the President.

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158

Everyone agrees there are racists who oppose Obama and that not all who oppose him are racists.

It is very likely that less than 1% of Obama opponents are racists and we need perspective when making accusations  of racism.

This is similar to the fact that less than 1% of Arabs are terrorists.

Pointing out that racists oppose Obama should be accompanied by the facts that racists are a small minority.



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Hugh Askew

Interesting, after reading, then re-reading, the article, i still took it as putting forth the idea that, absent a small few, most of Obama's critics are racist.

Quote from the article: "and I can't find any explanation for it other than race".

If that isn't the premise of the article, then what is?

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Karen Hatter

Hugh, the author notes, after stating the legitimacy of those that may oppose President Obama as relates to policy issues and actions, one is left with the more bizarre, less lucid, fringe of the extremists and Right Wing conservatives and their resistance to the President, many counting themselves among such factions as the birthers, those who do not believe President Obama is an American citizen.

As the logic seems to be missing from that argument and some other articulated reasons that have been embraced by the fringe elements, the author says, " .... I can't find any explanation for it other than race".

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