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Final act in war planning underway—US and Israel meet
Final act in war planning underway—US and Israel leaders meet
Is it contingency planning or is it active war planning? America told Iran to knock off the nuclear weapon development. Similar to the behavior of the former Saddam Hussein, Iranian leaders flaunt their progress and their pride.
IAEA inspectors are en route for a visit and discussion. Barring progress from that, America, Israel and allies are action planning for the next steps.
America warned Iran that it will not tolerate conclusion of their weapon development. America means it and the time is now.
“Joint Chiefs chairman headed to Israel amid Iran threat
Published January 15, 2012
Associated Press
The Israeli Defense Ministry confirmed the planned visit Thursday by Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff. It did not give his agenda for talks with Israelis -- but Iran is expected to be at the top.
If Iran obtains nuclear weapons can it ever truly be contained?
Israel considers a nuclear-armed Iran to be an existential threat because of its nuclear program, missile capabilities, support for anti-Israel militants in Lebanon and Gaza and frequent references by its president to the destruction of Israel.
Israel has repeatedly hinted it might take military action if international sanctions fail to stop Iran's nuclear development.
The U.S., Israel and other Western nations believe Iran is developing atomic weapons. Tehran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.
Dempsey's visit will be his first official trip to Israel since he assumed command of the joint chiefs on Sept. 30. His predecessor, Adm. Mike Mullen, made several visits to Israel during his four-year term.
On Thursday President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu discussed the Iran situation in a telephone conversation.
The Obama administration is concerned that Iran's recent claim that it is expanding nuclear operations with more advanced equipment may push Israel closer to a strike.
The U.S. still hopes that international pressure will persuade Iran to back down, but the Islamic regime shows no sign it would willingly give up a project that has become a point of national pride.
The U.S. has led a series of economic sanctions against the regime. On Sunday, Israeli Cabinet Minister Moshe Yaalon said he was disappointed that the U.S. has not expanded the measures to further damage Iran's central bank and its energy industry.
Last week, an Iranian nuclear scientist was killed in a car bombing in Tehran. There has been no claim of responsibility, but Iran has accused the U.S., Israel and Britain of being behind the killing. Several leading Iranian nuclear scientists have been killed in recent years.
Israel has not commented publicly on the scientist's death.
The killing in Tehran came a day after Israeli military chief Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz was quoted as telling a parliamentary panel that 2012 would be a "critical year" for Iran -- in part because of "things that happen to it unnaturally."
Gantz is also headed this week to Brussels for talks with NATO officials that are expected to focus on Iran.
The U.S. and its allies are pressuring Iran to halt uranium enrichment, but Iran appears to be attempting to expand operations.
The U.S. is also angered by an Iranian court's death sentence of a U.S. citizen and its threats to block the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the passage for one-sixth of the world's oil.
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at 10:37 on January 15th, 2012
News here is just wild with speculation with little substance at this time.
at 10:45 on January 15th, 2012
My belief is that there are certain actions by Iran that could prompt a decisive response. Due process is underway to permit Iran every opportunity to diffuse the situation, though the hard line regime is unlikely to do more than pretend. The likelihood of conflict is now >50%.
at 12:59 on January 15th, 2012
My feeling is there will be war.
The American government always does what they want no matter what the opposition or evidence and they will for some reason back Israel at all cost. Even if it further bankrupts their nation they will find great reasoning behind it and sell it to their already brain-washed society.
It's really very sad.
at 14:22 on January 15th, 2012
I respect that view. In this instance, it is a whole lot more about oil than Israel. Israel has become a pawn in the scheme of events.
Real matters of concern:
1. Iran's constant taunting with nuclear weapons development and direct threats to disrupt oil through the Strait of Hormuz
2. Iran's persistent taunting and direct threats against Israel including stupid claims that the Holocaust did not happen
3. Iran's embracing radical Islam that is offensive and threatening.
I am very conservative about using force in these matters, and hope that diplomatic actions can become more effective. But, so far, there is no indication that diplomacy will work here anymore than it worked with other Middle East governments of this sort.
The world of peaceful people should appeal to peace-minded Iranians with the hope that they will overthrow the war-bent regime that is in power now. I don't have much hope for that happening in time to prevent conflict.
at 18:10 on January 16th, 2012
For what it is worth, I agree with your assessment this seems to increase the likelyhood that we are looking towards war with Iran.
at 16:31 on January 15th, 2012
Israel will defend itself against Iran with or without American approval or assistance. Israeli officials made it plain at least a year ago that if the international community failed to check the threat of a nuclear Iran (with the current regime intact) then Israel would act unilaterally if necessary within 18 months. Now this threat to close the straits of Hormuz. Iran seems to be begging the Americans to 'bring it.' But this will be a very difficult fight, whether it's about securing oil, or finding and destroying nuclear-weapons production facilities.
at 16:33 on January 15th, 2012
Iran can inflict serious damage on Israel if they make the first missile strike. The counter strike would be immense, not just from Israel, but from American forces already zeroed into Iran.
The amount of force targeted strategically would be swift and decisive in a far more rapid manner than ever before demonstrated. I suspect it would be over in a few days with surrender by Iran very quickly.
at 19:03 on January 15th, 2012
Bear in mind, if Iran fires at Israel and they fall short, they could strike Palestinians. If they fire long, they could hit Jordan.
at 04:51 on January 16th, 2012
Folks, It is really interesting reading all this speculation.
Understand one thing clearly from my perspective NO ONE not even the U.S. can ever use Israel as a pawn. They may use us as an excuse to go to war. We can't do anything about that.
From my perspective the only way Israel would ever actually act out a strike is if it CLEARLY had the intelligence suggesting a strike capability by Iran.
The Iranians and for that matter all of the Arab and Muslim world could care less about what happens to the lives of the Palestinians living here.
Israel's economy presently is one of the best in the world. No one here especially this Government is interested in risking collapse.
We are worried and concerned about Iran and as the public dialogue suggests the push for strong sanctions is the preferred number one priority for now.
at 05:39 on January 16th, 2012
For me, my mutterings are a product of fear and anxiety.
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 11:13 on January 16th, 2012
IMHO the key intent behind Iran's posturing is to keep the number of disenfranchised/unemployed males through out the Islamic countries in a condition of anti-American/Western thinking where they can be coerced with little indoctrination to become terrorist. Iran is the largest State organizer/recruiter of terrorist. Iran is financially and materially involved in terrorism through out the Middle-East and Africa. Iran has made it's anti-American/ Western views speaking out in venues like the UN or during economic summits from places as far away as Venezuela. Iran holds itself as the last frontier against American hegemony, not only in the Middle-East but, around the world -where ever Iran can find a willing stooge.
at 12:33 on January 16th, 2012
Smart assessment IMHO.
at 19:03 on January 20th, 2012
I appreciate this thread and everything said. I'm a little behind the times lately, but it seems the issue of potential war with Iran is not surfacing on any major news radar...
An interesting comment was made by the Iranian film-makers at the Golden Globe awards the other night. After giving a short speech one of the producers made it plain he had something very important to say. He then stated succinctly that 'the Iranian people are very loving people.' This was his final comment to the American viewers before leaving the stage. It seemed he knew or at least sense something wicked in the wind.
I agree with Tikun above that the best way would always be the way of peace. And yet I also believe that if the current regime can somehow be ousted - from within or without or both - then there are many millions of highly educated and passionate Persian people who would embrace democracy and the development of a stable secular state. In this way Iran, the biggest perceived threat to peace in the region and beyond, may also hold out the brightest hope for peace and stability.
at 04:15 on January 21st, 2012
I visited Iran many years ago and found the people to be traditional/secular in nature. Also, it has been reported recently that the youth love the U.S. and the West in general.
This fanatical regime might just be crazy enough to get eliminated so that the Iranian people can start over once again and attempt to establish the kind of government they claim to want.
at 14:17 on January 22nd, 2012
For sure, one can only hope and pray it is so. Without exception the Iranians I've met here are moderate and intelligent people, whose main concern is no different than mine or yours' - raising a family and/or living a free life in community that in some way might improve the human condition.