Fish on Fridays, to veil or not to veil, those are the questions

by YankeeJim | May 15, 2010 at 02:33 am
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Religions are rooted in ancient mythology, and Judaism, Christianity, and Islam share common roots. All of them are inventions of humankind for the purpose of coping and making life civil. Over time, humans invented governments to do these things. Governments fought with religions for the space of governing people. In time, humans invented democracy which empowered people with self control.

Today, even the most modern societies and governments carry the baggage of their religious legacy. As populations become more educated, and as they better understand their empowerment, religion becomes less relevant.

However, zealots, clinging to their beliefs are protected by democratic society as are all people with different views. Conflict erupts when religious beliefs are incongruent with government and others in societies who don’t share the same belief.

Some religions are more adaptive, tolerant, and respectful than others.

In my interpretation of words and deeds, a large number of Muslims reject non-Muslims with hostility. It is the intolerance rooted in this behavior that begets intolerance such as the aversion to full veils. That is the symptom of a problem.

I can remember when Catholics could not eat meat on Fridays. They would go all day and not eat meat, then have a party at the stroke of midnight and eat pepperoni pizza to celebrate. Fish and macaroni and cheese days on Friday were over when a Pope decided to change the rules.

In Islam, there is no single person who can say, “Let us not wear veils. Let women be recognized with full equal freedom.” Too bad.

So, throughout the world, people remain hung up on mythology when, in my opinion, energy should be put to attending the rights of humankind to live in peace and tranquility.




Anti-Islamic sentiments surface in wake of restrictions on veils

By Edward Cody

Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, May 15, 2010

BRUSSELS -- Since she started wearing a full Islamic veil six weeks ago, Selma said, she has been stared at, frowned at, muttered to, mocked as a "ghost" and forced by a policeman to lift her veil to show her face.

"In Belgium, it is forbidden to carry your religious convictions to their logical conclusion," the 22-year-old Brussels woman said, speaking on the condition that her full name not be used to avoid trouble for her family.

These are uneasy times for the estimated 15 million Muslims of Western Europe, not only for fundamentalists such as Selma, but also for the vast majority who want to find their place as Muslims without confronting the Christian and secular traditions of the continent they have adopted as home.

Responding to a wave of resentment unfurling across European societies, several governments have begun to legislate restrictions on the most readily visible of Islamic ways, the full-face veil. Outside the gilded halls of parliaments and ministries, meanwhile, anti-Islamic sentiments have risen to the surface in a surge of Internet insults and physical attacks against Muslim symbols.”




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Barry ORegan

Society changes, sometimes change is good, sometimes not! Now pass the pizza

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YankeeJim

To eat, I must lift my veil.

To eat his own.

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YankeeJim

Fact or fiction

McDonalds began serving fish sandwiches to accommodate Catholics on Fridays

The Cheese pizza was invented to accomdate Catholics on Fridays

The Pope revoked no meat because the Pizza parlors could not sell enough pepperoni pizzas on Saturday nights in the USA

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Rory Cripps

Yeah! The Cuzins got to him no doubt.

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Rory Cripps

These are uneasy times for the estimated 15 million Muslims of Western Europe, not only for fundamentalists such as Selma, but also for the vast majority who want to find their place as Muslims without confronting the Christian and secular traditions of the continent they have adopted as home.

Yeah! It seems to be their way or the highway! Assimilation into the host country's culture is the furthest thing from their minds. But I bet they like the fact that they can make more money in Europe and the U.S. than in their country of origin  and get over due to the host country's "tolerance". LOL!

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ZbOROVAN

When a Theocratic (or Socialist) State becomes all, The People become nothing!

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Rory Cripps

ZbOROVAN: Yes! This is the main problem! At least here in the U.S. and parts of Western Europe, people can speak out against the main-stream religions. But there seems to be a politically correct trend that's growing here in the U.S.whereby those in government are going out of their way to accommodate the Muslim religion and afford Muslims extra religious rights and protections in terms of any criticism.

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YankeeJim

Worth pondering this thought

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René

What's wrong with fish on Friday's? It's good for you to eat fish every week.

We like fish more than just once a week. and besides there's all these fish specials on Friday's down here in New Orleans and south Louisiana.


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YankeeJim

Rene, I hope your fish are spared. I love fish, but not when they tell more than 4 ounces a month will kill me.

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Yommie

"As populations become more educated, and as they better understand their empowerment, religion becomes less relevant."

Empowerment?!...what kind of empowerment I wonder makes religion irrelevant but the realisation that YOU can live YOUR life as YOU see fit - the paradox of the modern man, the fall of things divine, the decline of western civilisation. Christianity is kicked around like football...Islam is the flower you mustn't touch.

Anyway, it is a war and I know who is winning. Hmmm....hmmnn..., the woman in veil across the street.

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mezze

Now what's the problem, yankeeselim? Exactly? For you ? (please don't talk in generalisations, that's proven dangerous)

I live opposite a Moroc mosque, in a neighbourhood with many muslims. Do I see nikaabs? I don't. I see scarfs, and sometimes unscarfing. It's their choice. Girls wear it and dress quite sexy underneath :-)

If you want to abolisch that, wearing the scarf, then also caps and hoods and wigs and veiled bonnets and motor-helmets. Worldwide, of course..

Ana

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YankeeJim

Good response, mezze.

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israeli.agent

Not 'so' related. Just two stories  to kill some time :-)


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NEW DELHI: Darul Uloom Deoband, the most influential Sunni Muslim seminary in the subcontinent, has issued a fatwa decreeing that opting for an insurance policy went against tenets of Islam. The “insurance policy is unlawful as it is based on interest and gambling,” said the fatwa.

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Is it necessary for a woman’s eyes to be covered while in observance of purdah? Is it necessary for her hands to be covered while in observance of purdah? Is it necessary for her feet to be covered while in observance of purdah?

The best purdah for a woman is that the palms and no part of her body and adornments are exposed, ie, the whole body is covered from head to toe. If it is possible to see through the purdah, then the eyes also should be covered... (Fatwa: 1587/1330=L/1429)

Can women wear gents clothes? Is it permissible for women to wear jeans and T-shirts?

There are some Hadith that relate curse for such women who adopt the resemblance of men. Therefore, wearing clothes of men is not correct for women. (Fatwa: 771/730=B)

Nice story , YankeeJim..!


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seam

It's a shame. Sunglasses are fine! Nobody makes a big deal about them cause they have a utilitarian function. Scientism is in control of governments. But it has its place too. Alongside ALL our religious beliefs and practices! Does anyone get what I am saying?

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