Fox News "Red Eye" Host Ridicules U.S. Allies, Canadian Military

by TheCameraObscura | March 20, 2009 at 10:48 am
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Fox News "Red Eye" host Greg Gutfeld and several guests, including comedian Doug Benson, ridiculed the  Canadian military, one of the U.S. military allies in Afghanistan because a Canadian official said that they may need a year off to recover when their troops pull out in 2011.

Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie, the Canadian army's top commander, told a Senate committee the army needs more equipment and more manpower and is having trouble retaining staff.

Greg Gutfeld, who has no military service himself, and his guests failed to mention that 116 Canadian military personnel gave their lives in Afghanistan.

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Owen Wolfe

Actually, 116 Canadian soldiers have died in Afghanistan.  Four died, and eight were injured on the very day this segment aired.  While one of the "guests" was ignorant of the fact, Canada has been in Afghanistan since 2002, and has sustained the highest rate of casualties, proportionally.  The U.S., with 10 times the population of Canada, has lost 592 soldiers in Afghanistan.  This makes the relative Canadian death rate there about twice as high.  The headline of a news article over a year ago notes that the  “Canadian death rate in Kandahar is outpacing that of the U.S. in Iraq”.   

This is a sick and uninformed piece  of junk journalism, even for FOX.  They owe Canadian military families an apology. 

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TheCameraObscura

Thank you Owen, I changed it to 116.  Yes, it is amazing how Fox so brazenly ridicules US allies.

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t wickstrom

Once again ignorant America has shown their true colours.  I am a fan of cytirical and political humour, but this goes to far.  Most journalist and reporter do a  bit of studying of the  material they are reporting on, but obviously Doug Benson was winging the material he used that night.  Its funny that President Obama was in Ottawa not that long ago, praising the Canadian presence in Afganistan.  At least there's one American who is grateful of the sacrifice of our boys abroad.  

 

 

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Serving III PPCLI

As a serving memeber of III PPCLI while deeply offended by what the oafs have said i do not extend this ill will to the rest of Americans. I don't particularily care if the recognize our efforts there or not. It's always nice to be recognized but I in turn recognize that to the average American they have plenty of other things going on to pay such close attention to what Canada is doing, so no biggie to me. There will always be a segment of the polulation that believes that an ally is someone you trash talk about. Nothing we can do about it and this show is tailored for them. We can take comfort in the fact that anyone up at 3 in th emorning cheering these guys on probably doesn't have a job and will never be put in a position of real responsibility.

Yes I am angry at the show but not Americans. Just google this topic and you may find yourself as suprised as I am at how many Americans - maybe even ones who don't particularily like Canada - have expressed their embarrassment and disgust with this segment. I salute you.

Meanwhile before any Canadians start expressing their blanket rage against anyone or anything American I might remind you of the Rick Mercer show. That show, much like this Red Eye segment claims to be making good natured fun of Americans but in reality they make our country look cheap and stupid. This crap exists on both sides of the border so lets cool our heels.

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Leonard Hatred

Why is "guests" in quotes? 

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A Canadian

Are these people serious? What a bunch of ill-informed idiots! And to think this was supported by FOX. These fools should do some research before they start poking fun at one of their country's main allies in the way they did. Shame on FOKS...oops ....sorry FOX!

Canadian.

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JMack

As histories best friends and defender of our American cousins, it would be wrong for us to suggest that the four ignorant moron's on Red Eye in anyway represented the vast majority of americans.

The difference I suppose is this.  We have lost 116 of our military personnel to date.  And yet, we expect no apology from these moron's.  I would suggest though that if the roles were reversed, and a canadian television program insulted a single american family by minimizing the loss of their son or daughter in military action...that there would be hell to pay.

I have turned off Fox.  I do not want to be further confused between the good americans that I know...and the ugly americans that this program presents. 

  

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Bif

Col Kilgore
As a proud Canuck , i am increasingly distressed that our kids are there, at all, and dying in greater numbers lately too. It even bothers me more due to my beliefs in the event (911) that sent them there in the first place. I support the troops but have no faith in the mission now. I disliked the Taliban the minute they started blowing up 2000 year old artifacts long before 911. The world is full of repressive and crazy regimes. I just cant see any benefit to Canada to stay there a minute longer. I know the individual soldier will get a certain amount of satisfaction out of helping some of the people there but it seems like a bottomless pit of despair otherwise.  But, being a NATO ally and being an honourable country we supported our friends, the Americans, and committed Canadian resources and blood to the effort in Afghanistan.
Letting right wing freaks belittle our efforts and blood wont do much to endear the Canadian public anyways. Some of these people need to get out and stand, along the " Highway Of Heros " in Ontario, in the freezing cold as our fallen are brought home to rest. There will be thousands of people out this week too as our latest fallen heros are brought home. People routinely line the road and bridges to pay their respects en masse for every soldier carrying flags and saluting as they pass. As far as the fighting spirit of Canadians? You might want to ask the German SS Panzer groups we decimated after D-Day.

Plus, as for America protecting Canada, protecting Canada from who?  Russia, Mexico, N. Korea, um,  Iran?  As far as I know the only county ever to invade Canada was the US and that resulted in their imminent retreat and a burned presidential house later painted white to cover the scorches, The White House.

Suck it FOX News.

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Russ

Well put Bif, it is a total disgrace! There should be an outcry up here and down there also... but down there the majority cannot see what the Canadians are doing due to their heads up their ass. But they are so smug I think they enjoy the view.

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disco34

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Thats all im gonna say about that!!  Bite me!!

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Lancelot

I feel sorry for all of you, your families who you have dishonoured, the American people who you have disgraced for your comments and for the Canadian People who you have shown the utmost disregaurd for in your comments about the Canadian Forces.  You have disgraced all of those who have died in 9/11 by saying such comments about a Country that has fought hand in hand towards the same goals and aspirations as your Nation, in order to keep North American's safe from Terrorism.  I realize that you try to stir up things, but is there no Honour is journalism anymore?  Do you, who sits behind a desk and behind camera's instead of behind a rifle in front of the enemy think you deserve the right to make such calous remarks just for a little controversy?  Why don't you read a little about the Canadian Forces and learn something about it? It seems you are in need of a little higher learning.  I hope that everyone forgets about what you said, and as human beings you don't deserve anything including the spotlight you are getting for your comments.  If you think I am wrong, then I challenge you (even though I don't think any of you have the balls) to speak directly to any person in the US Army who has served with Canadians, hell, why not even talk directly to someone in the Canadian Army?
    One day, if any of you manage to scrounge what honour and dignity you might have left, I hope that you aren't able to sleep at night because of what you said.

P.S I am glad that life is so good for you.  That you're able to sit behind a camera, drive your Volvo home, kiss your wife and kids, and collect your paycheck.  It's because of Allies like the CF that you are able to do that.

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K.J.Todd

Just another example of an ignorant american. Criticizing a friend and allie just to make yourself look bigger and better for a late night laugh. Arrogant and naive. I hope the late night show audience do not have the same mentality as the panelist do.I'd like to see some American friends write to Fox and vent some opposition to host and show. Do you think they smoked a joint before the show, they seemed to be giggling like school girls?

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jackie stevens

typically American don't you think?

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PhiFou

Typically american, maybe not.  Typically Fox...  Absolutely!

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Proud Canadian.....

I'm hoping that Greg Gutfeld (and his ilk) represent only the smallest percentage of Americans that feel 116 soldiers lives lost in Afghanistan is an insignificant contribution to a war effort. Shame on the Fox News Company for allowing this kind of program to air. There's a reason it's on at 3:00 a.m.......... Greg.., your 15 minutes of fame is running out buddy...... Maybe McDonalads will be looking for a french fry cook when you finally get fired...? Wait.., that would require some kind of skill...... Good luck Buddy.., you're gonna need it....

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InmyW0rLD

Greg Gutfeld said that it would be a great moment to invade us ... to do what ! crash our economy ?? ridiculous guy !

 

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Wendy Piercey

Are you kidding me?  As a PROUD CANADIAN WIFE OF A MILITARY MEMBER, I watched the ill informed, uneducated morons as they lashed out against my country and against my husband's career.  Again I say are you kidding me?  Fox you should be ashamed of yourself that you have to resort to such antics in order to get ratings for your network.  If you consider that a news show, you need to be re-educated.   Our troops have fought and died the same as the other countries in NATO, that have joined forces against a war that was started because of YOUR country.  Its strange how these morons puffed themselves up like they knew what the hell they were talking about.  We have now lost four more soldiers who were brought home today, bringing our total of soldiers who have been killed for our country to 116.  It is a slap in the face to the men and the women who wear our uniforms and represent our country with pride and with honor.  Just to let you know also, in our constition we do not have the right to bear arms and our country is far less violent than the United States of America.  What a joke you people are.  I would love to sit face to face with those idiots that you have talking gibberish.  We are educated, we have running water, it is not always FRIGID here like that dizzy blond insinuated, and we have a country that we are proud of.  Why don't they learn to read.  Or better yet maybe they should come up here and go to a funeral of one of the fallen soldiers, and maybe then they'd find out about other countries than just the US.  Maybe that is why the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is the most hated country in the world.  FYI, just to let you know how tough  the US Soldiers are, when they have been in other countries they have taken the Canadian Flag and put it over their own flag so that they could walk down the street without being targets.  So now who is the idiots.  The difference between an American and a Canadian.  CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You would not hear a CANADIAN BROADCASTING COMPANY SINK TO THE LEVEL THAT THE FOX NETWORK HAS.  I will not watch your channel ever again,  an apology is the least that should give our country and the men and the women who wear the uniform.  I'll tell you what, why don't you send a camera crew over to the Canadian Base in Afganistan, and see exactly what it is we do.  My husband is in the NAVY and for nine months one year he was gone, defending our country.  Try that every night not knowing if your husband will come home.  Greg Gutfeld is a moron, maybe you should send him out into the world so he can take his head out of his ass.

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Brig

I've never watched Red Eye, nor do I ever care to.  Recently, it was brought to my attention that in an episode aired on the 20th, a feeble attempt at humour was made at the expense of Canadian sacrafice in Afghanistan...and indeed at the expense of grieving Canadian families. Canadian culture and intelligence was questioned and made fun of. I am of the opinion that these four individuals should be investigated for fostering public unrest concerning the allied effort in Afghanistan. Further, all those who were involved in producing and/or airing this distasteful, disgusting program; should be questioned as well.

Fox should come forward immediately, with a public apology to the whole of Canada. ...and more particularly to the families of our fallen comrades.

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Michael Dashper

This is standard fare for the fox network...Their most loyal viewers are the lowest of American society..populated by wacko religious groups, gun toting idiots and the reason Americans are held in such disregard in the rest of the world.  For the record, in addition to the war they lost to a bunch of pesants in Southeast Asia, they were also beaten by a small force of Canadians in 1812..Our problem is going along with them in another part of the world that wants nothing of the "American Way".  Let's leave them to their folly and get the ---- out of there 

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Jeff Kennedy

Where is the apology on Fox's web page???

See how this topic only shows up on Canadian news after the fact.  Where is the apology on Fox's web page???

Proving once again the extreme ignorance of anything that is not USA USA USA, this show fails to be even aware of the 118 Canadian military service personal who gave their lives fighting in the most violent regions of Afghanistan. We're helping to clean up one the many messes the United States has left world wide. Our thanks a slap in our faces.

They are just playing into the stereo type the rest of the world has of ignorant, egocentric, gun toting Americans.

Sorry we didn't follow your last president into Iraq to find non-existant WMDs. How's that war going for you? Military isn't the solution to everything. How many innocent civilians in Iraq have American solders killed to date?  Of course that isn't reported on.  How many more extremists has that created?  Do you even know?

Hopefully your new leader will show more common sense than George W. Bush and Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld.

I respect many of my American friends, but Fox is showing ignorance in full on this crappy show. Fox is literally a blocked channel on my remote now. 

Jeff Kennedy

Proud Canadian

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Verna Pidgeon

It is most unfortunate that Redeye host and guests were showing off on that program and mocked the Canadian military.  They were very wrong.  It is to be noted, however, that this was not in conjunction with the death of the four fallen Canadian soldiers....that information became knowledge after the program in question aired.  But that does not excuse them in any way.  Both Canadian and American soldiers are to be held in high esteem....they do the fighting for us while we live in safety.  Redeye is a new program on Fox that is on around 3 o'clock in the morning and appeals mostly to young people.  But Fox News Network is a great station.  I am Canadian and cannot get all we want to know about American and World News on Canadian Networks.  When we were confined to CNN, it was so boring and biased.  Now with Fox we get a lively and fair and balanced report.  There are so many great hosts on there including Glenn Beck (who came over from CNN), Greta Van Sustern, Sean Hannity and particularly Bill O'Reilley. and many others....we cannot possibly damage all of their images because one idiot (Greg Gutfeld) messed up.  Fox has very high standards and I am sure by now this guy is across the mat for his comments.  As for the fighting in Afghanstan and Iraq, we might as well face the fact that if the fighting is not done there, then it will take place on our own soil!  World War 2 veterans knew this so well--for a time then, it was very possible that such a small country as Germany could have overrulled us.  It is no different today.....if we do not watch out, Arab countries could overtake us....just ask any old veteran who faught against Hitler...they know the score!  And don't condemn Fox, just Greg Gutfeld.

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ZekeNews

Thank you, Greg, for highlighting five dumb Americans on your show. I would like to know if Doug Benson will come to Edmonton, AB on April 2nd -5th at "The Comedy Strip" and perform after his comments on your show? Does he know that Edmonton is a strong Canadian military city? It's hard to believe Monica wrote two political books and was a foreign affairs and political analyst. Who did Monica sleep with to get the doctorate in international relations? She gives "blonde" a whole new meaning. William Dawes "Bill" Schulz is listed as a writer, FOX producer and a "journalist"? For a guy born in 1975, he should not talk on TV. It really helps promote his lack of intelligence on countries that border the good ol' US of A. He needs to watch CTV "Flash Point" to see Canadian cops don't all ride horses. RCMP Red Serge is worn for the tourists in National Parks and special government ceremonies. And thank you, Greg, for your own brand of verbal diarrhea. Some things should not be said at any time of day or night. For you to promote this kind of

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Henry from Canada

He's sorry, and yet today he jokes on Twitter about how "Canada could probably beat Belgium..."

I'll restrain myself from and just say that the Ugly American doesn't get much uglier than this -- way to live up to the stereotype -- now if you'll pardon me, there's some fallen Canadian soldiers being brought home today

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Maverick Oppugn

Disgusting, despicable, unacceptable.  It's a shame these individuals have a public forum to display such 'satire'.

You should read some of Jonathan Swift's works on satire.  Your timing was terrible, more importantly, inappropriate.

Let's not give these 'people' more ideas for their shows.  I just got running water in my igloo a few weeks ago and the local newspaper printed this two days after their creation.

Why are we all writing in the blog when we should be sending emails to Fox regarding this?  I've wasted enough time and effort on these 'satirists'.

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eastvanray

I hope this brainless douche doesn't meet one of Canada's brave military personelle in a dark alley or he just might be the one who needs time to "recover"!

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Elaine Garrow

By the way Fox News , you can kiss my Royal Red Maple Leaf.... and take your stars and stripes....

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Tony St.George

Just goes to show the ignorance, arrogance & stupidity of the uninformed.  Considering the mentality of these PEA BRAINS it's easy to understand why Blacks were persecuted in the Great U.S of A. Imagine having these GUTLESSFELDS covering your back in the heat of battle. Not going to happen. They could never have been part of any structured organization. I take comfort in knowing that the majority of Americans appreciate and respect the Canadian Military and mourn the loss of one hundred and sixteen of our Fallen Heros.

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J Burke

Back in the mid 50s I was reading a U.S. war comic book on my front step in a Nova Scotia town when a returned Canadian war vet from the Italian theatre who lived next door noticed it and said, Don't believe that garbage, the Americans couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.I remembered his words, and in thinking back to Pearl Harbor, Korea and Vietnam, and Iraq and even the drug wars and the recent grovelling to Iran I can see how right he was. If the Americans ever get uppity towards Canada we will get the Viet Cong after them.

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Bob M

I have many American friends and they are all loving, intelligent, and friendly just like many of my friends here. The bottom line is that the majority of us on both sides of the border share the same values, hopes and dreams. This however is not newsworthy (especially by low level quality providers such as Fox) so we are left with the tiny percentage of extremists on both sides.

To negate Canada's war effort is Naive given the facts:

WW 1     1914-1918     Canada enters war in 1914  -  US enters war in 1917

WW2      1939-1945     Canada enters war in 1939  -  US enters war in 1941 (because of                                                                                       Pearl Harbor)

I think the 4 babbling fools should come up on Monday and stand on one of 50 bridges over the Highway of Heroes and watch and salute along with thousands of proud Canadian citizens, firefighters, police officers as they watch the 4 hearses carrying our latest brave boys to their final resting place.

After that the Ann Coulter wanna be (Monica Crowley) can go have her nails done wherever she wants!!

Greg Gutfeld, host of Red Eye

Panellist Doug Benson replies: "I didn't even know they were in the war. I thought that's where you go when you don't want to fight

Another panellist, Bill Schultz, takes a pot shot at the Mounties later. "We have police officers and they have Mounties. Our cops ride heavily armoured cars, they ride horses. We have bulletproof vests, they have wonderful little red jackets that can be seen a mile away. This is not a smart culture, Greg." This guy  Bill Schultz doesn't even look like he could hold up a rifle.

Here's a link for all to read: be sure the read the poem at the end.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bluesguitars.ca/images/General/Highway_of_Heroes.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bluesguitars.ca/Canadian_Forces.htm&h=427&w=570&sz=33&tbnid=A15yVKi5N_DvQM::&tbnh=100&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhighway%2Bof%2Bheroes&usg=__iBjbsi__EcBVa7A-ZriVqASLsvY=&ei=iPPISbftH4OstgeUvdigAw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=7&ct=image&cd=1



 

British  news  paper salutes Canada . . . this is a good read.  

 

It is funny how  it took someone in England to put it  into words...  Sunday

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Jackie Ray

Fox News is a disgrace. Once again the Americans are living up to their well earned reputation of arrogance and creating conflict. We're their allies and they make "puns" about taking us over? Talk about alienation.  Not to mention they cruelly dishonoured the families of men and women who are serving overseas.

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