"The G-20's Secret Debt Solution": A New Monetary System?

by Rhonda J Mangus | November 13, 2008 at 05:21 am
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Money and Markets contributor, Larry Edelson, believes that this weekends G-20 meetings in Washington is about talks on "...the possible revaluation of gold and the birth of an entirely new monetary system."

“If we can’t print money fast enough to fend off another deflationary Great Depression, then let’s change the value of the money.”

I call it …

“The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution"

It would be a strategy designed to ease the burden of ALL debts — by simultaneously devaluing ALL currencies … and re-inflating ALL asset prices.

That’s what central banks and governments around the world are going to start talking about this weekend — a new financial order that includes new monetary units that helps to wipe clean the world’s debt ledgers.

It won’t be an easy deal to broker, since the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor. But remember: Debts are now going bad all over the world. So everyone would benefit.

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke … Treasury Secretary Paulson … President Bush … President-elect Obama … former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker … Warren Buffett … and central bankers and politicians all over the world agree a new monetary system is needed.

So they'll start hashing out the details to get the new financial architecture deployed as quickly as possible.


Edelson claims that he is not propagating a conspiracy theory, but that historical precedent should be considered.

To end the Great Depression in 1933 Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar via Executive Order #6102, confiscating gold and raising its price 69.3%, effectively kick starting asset reflation.

Only this time, it won’t be just the U.S. that devalues its currency. The world is too interconnected. Instead, the world’s leading countries will propose a simultaneous and universal currency devaluation.

This time, they will NOT confiscate gold. There would be riots all over the globe if they even mentioned the “C” word.



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Paschen

I believe a single international currency may be the modern anther and not a fall back to old solutions that ended up giving us another World War. We have to start thinking Global as one and no longer try to save some and bleed the rest.

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Fairbanks

If anyone has a new theory they are not getting column inches.  Nothing new is being proposed except stating the laundry lists of isms, and that means our brains are running on glue and tar.  Surely fresh theory is out there in the world someplace, but was likely just rejected for publication in another academic journal. 

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Rhonda J Mangus

Fairbanks, thank you for reading and for commenting.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Paschen, a Single Global Currency is probably the best way to resolve the World's financial crisis. Thank you for reading, commenting, and the recommendation.

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Paschen

Thank you for the link Rhonda.

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Rhonda J Mangus

You are very welcome, Paschen. I discovered it while researching on this issue.

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JoIM

Global currency = loss of sovereignty as we know it. The founding fathers were vastly APPOSED to even a central bank within the US alone, much less a global one. Due to the fact it wittingly, and predictably facilitates UNCONTROLLABLE, politically unbound, and corrupt hegemonies. History repeats it self over and over until people wake up and say "no lets not go down that road again"

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Rhonda J Mangus

JoIM, thank you. I do agree that a global currency could equal a loss of sovereignty as we know it. I also agree that history repeats itself. One thing I have learned in my lifetime is that, "Problems Continue to Present When They Have Not Been Resolved", so it leaves  me wondering when others are going to catch up:) Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts.

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Erik Larson

interesting, thanks for posting. With a money system backed by debt and the promises of the corrupt US Republocrat govt, and the global derivatives market at $50-60 trillion (about 3-4 times the total money supply), i'm sure the self-serving, short-sighted banking parasites who thought up these unsustainable, cancerous and humanity-enslaving financial instruments are cooking up a way to bail themselves out so they're on top of the huge stinking mess they'll be dumping on the taxpayers, consumers and workers of the world.

However, i didn't see that Edelson claimed a single source, and he admitted it's just his own speculation about what the G-20 is up to. Also, it reads like a gold-investment promotion (I'm not saying investing in gold is bad, considering the dollar, housing and financial markets are total frauds and there's been no substantive disclosure from the Treasury, Fed or Wall Street about what's going on, gold may well go much higher)

I would definitely like to institute a monetary system that serves the people and the public interest, but anything the G-20 come up with is not going to be that, although it should be given its place in the public debate- like everyone else's ideas. Let the best ideas be implemented.

Another proposal for a monetary system i recently came across and am still researching, but sounds promising; ban the charging of interest (usury) and charge a tax on money being hoarded (not a tax on capital, wealth or property). This was tried in Worgi, Austria in 1933 during the Great Depression when they had 1/3 unemployment (and 6 neighboring towns after Worgi had success) and it resulted in money being circulated 14 times faster (velocity of money), full employment, economic growth, long term investments in infrastructure and community and an increase in the value of money (so it was worth more when loans were repaid; but since people were taxed for holding money, they would immediately reinvest it, spend, loan it out, etc.). The mayor had addressed 170 towns and cities who were interested in trying it, but the central bank found out their monopoly economic power was being threatened and shut it down.

A far more efficient economic system is possible


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Rhonda J Mangus

You are very welcome, Erik. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Hopefully, the "best ideas will be implemented." However, my own experience tells me that the "bail-out" will not be successful unless the root cause is addressed: "the self-serving, short-sighted banking parasites who thought up these unsustainable, cancerous and humanity-enslaving financial instruments...".  

You are correct that Edelson does not cite any sources. However, if you follow the link to Larry Edelson's Page, it appears that he is quite accomplished. Evidently he has "successfully called nearly all the major turning points in the world's macro-economic trends,...".

Thank you for the link. It is well worth the read!

 

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Erik Larson

Rhonda, I completely agree with your assessment that the bailout won't be successful w/o addressing the root cause; the system is out of balance and doesn't work for the People. We the People have an opportunity here to demand and build a better system, one that works in accordance with Mother/Human Nature, and serves us and the public interest.

Bush warned today, at least twice, that we may be facing global economic meltdown. The PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, and if this meltdown wasn't engineered as a pretext for ushering in a global currency and government, I'm sure scoundrels like the Rockefellers and Morgans have had a contingency plan ready to go for years, should their derivatives scam ever crash and burn, as it seems to be doing.

Money is a fantasy; it has no value other than what we collectively agree and hope it does. We can't eat it, wear it or take shelter in it, and the pleasure it brings us is the sense of power knowing we can buy things, people, influence, etc. Human behavior, creativity, love and ingenuity has given us all the good things that humans have created, civilizations rise and fall, but the human race continues on. The current system sucks, there may be many better ways, and, imho, we need to consider them and not just accept what the TV and the CEOs and Republocrats are telling us.

I checked out Edelson's bio, thanks- curious he doesn't have a page on wikipedia with a list of accomplishments like that. I probably won't bother verifying his info- if he turns out to be right about the G-20 meetings, it'll be moot.


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Rhonda J Mangus

Hi Erik. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time this morning, but I did some checking. Evidently Edelson was involved in an Administrative Proceeding before the Securities and Exchange Commission, and who knows what else. I'll be back later. If you want to do any further research while I am gone, you could check under Weiss Research.

 

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Erik Larson

thanks Rhonda, the link you posted says enough for me; these small time ($30 mil in assets) "investment advisors" Larry Edelson and Martin Weiss settled with the SEC and admitted no wrong-doing, but apparently they were misrepresenting the performance and predictions of their company "Weiss Research".



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Rhonda J Mangus

You are very welcome, Erik.

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Amy Judd

It's a bit over my head, but good post - it will be interesting to see what happens this weekend. I can't imagine them actually going through with it though. Of course, what do I know?

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Rhonda J Mangus

Amy, thank you for reading, commenting and the recommend. It's a lot to digest. I'm just really "digesting" it myself. Unfortunately, too, anything could happen this week-end.

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sara star

Money just doesn't seem to have any value anymore. If you don't have money you just "borrow", and keep borrowing to pay the minimum. Meanwhile, go out and keep buying whatever you want. Buying stimulates the economy.

When you can't borrow anymore, declare bankrupcy.

I'm confused.

It seems like One World Currency is a good way for One World Corporations to control people.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Hi, sara star. I have changed my mind on a single global currency. eastvanray's comment, in particular, that "Combined currencies ONLY work when the countries involved are at similar stages of economic development.  It does not work when the countries have radically different fiscal agendas as is the case with developing and developed countries." makes sense to me. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts.

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SOLARLIFE

Speculations, nothing will happen, Bush still in power, Obama not yet joining the meeting. Tomorrow is the European meeting with Russia, how to continue Europe. Friday Washington. G. Brown with his Agent Sarko tried to rob the ECB, the european central bank, no success. G. Brown tried to convince the Chinese and Arabs to pay into IMF, no success. Result the bancruptcy countries like US/UK will work out over years their speculative deficit. Self caused poverty by Stock market sub-prime scam has no friends. They betrayed us all. The money flow of the big companies has to be separated from conventional money, like Europeans will control the streams. Real money goes from now on into production, not in papers.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Hi SOLARLIFE! Self-caused poverty, is right! Thank you for reading and commenting.

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Jason Sanders

That's a very interesting idea. I don't think that it will get the support it needs to be put in motion, but at least people are thinking outside the box.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Jason, thank you for reading and commenting.

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eastvanray

A global currency run by a bunch of politicians would be a disaster for the developed world.  The global economy needs variable currencies to act as an automatic ajustment when international trade gets out of balance.  For instance the US economy NEEDS a lower value dollar to be able to compete with countries like China.  By letting the value of the dollar drop it makes US-made products more competitive (cheaper) and foriegn-made products more expensive.  The result is increased demand for US goods and lower demand by US buyers for foriegn goods.  Without the ability to ajust relative pricing of each countries assets, reccessions would turn to long term drepressions that could take generations to correct.

If any "new" monetary system is being contemplated I would suggest looking at bringing back an asset-backed monetary system like that which existed prior to the Nixon Administration.  Rather than gold, however, a mix of assets would provide better stability and defense against inflation/deflation.  It also gets politics out of the money system by eliminating central banks ability to solve political problems by printing money.

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Paschen

The EURO in Europe and CFAF in West Africa was the best thing that ever happened for all countries involved. International single Currency would be of a great benefit to all countries and people, except to the stock broker they would lose here big time, however, should we maintain the current system just so wall street can keep existing and the rest of the World may starve? I think not.

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eastvanray

Combined currencies ONLY work when the countries involved are at similar stages of economic development.  It does not work when the countries have radically different fiscal agendas as is the case with developing and developed countries.

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Paschen

Not necessarily true eastvanray, look at Portugal, Greece, Spain they only made the great jump into the 21 century and where able to reach those stages as you say thanks to the EU and the EURO. Off course conditions where put in place and strict rules are to be followed, wish most do rather well, except for Italy that is. Then again we will always have to some that wont be able to comply, should we leave them out because of it? I think not, look at Canada, Ontario, Quebec, Alberta and BC make money and drive that country yet the rest is rather a third World dilemma of sorts, no offence intended here. Yet this is the reality even in the US if you dare look at Maine, or Arizona, even Oregon and so on. We all have those pockets with in Nations and we do have them around the world as Nations as well, so what? Leave them out because of it? Then you may have to part with half of Canada for the good of the Canadian Dollar. It will help those countries and make the playing field fair for all as well as give the Poor countries a chance to raisen them self up and cash up as well.

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Rhonda J Mangus

eastvanray, thank you for reading and commenting. Your points are well-taken!

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JoIM

The Euro was horrific for small towns in Europe, it caused the immediate take over of small town markets by large corporations. "How?" you as? Simple, what most people don't realise was done in Europe and in West Africa is the denominations DID NOT adjust to the higher value currency; Meaning if something if something was 10 francs then when when Euro was currency in france, that same 10 franc item which should have been 4-5 francs was sold @ 10 Euro, however salaries converted at market value. This was horrible, it didnt happen with lodging or public transit. However it absolutely did happen with GROCERIES and toiletries. I was in Nice and southern France when this happened. It was horribly burdoning on so many people its not even funny.

When the central bank makes the loans to local banks it will do what it has done before... it will be a 1 to 1 transaction. What a joke, putting anymore control of government and public policy into the hands of bankers will always be manage with 1 thing in mind. "What is in my 'interest'".

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djermano

Everyone fails to see that it is not about the way we create a system for money to flow, it is about energy. You can place the value of the dollar on moon dust, and it won't change the dynamics to economic chain link fence. We need to establish a break or Independence from Energy Resource countries.

The reason binLadin wants nuclear weapons is because Saudi Arabia the richest oil country in the world has not its own national defense to protect itself, from super powers who have no vast amounts of energy supply. This being the USA...who has gone in and sells its military as the authority in the world to who gets what; is  now invading other countries....in the name of Democracy.

Should we base currency on Oil? Not a good idea, because of its bad consequences..pipeline terror, Oil spills, Pirates, Global Warming, OPEC...using oil as a weapon to get the political clout they want in other countries. Bad Idea.

I considered a world currency, but I do not think that is good, because it gives us no independence from each other. One way to look at it is to have all countries keep their own currency, but have the same or similar value....Give all countires a plus or minus to the value of their currency according to the size of their populations. The bigger the population the more value to the currency. The smaller the population the less value.

We have to dissolve the chain link between countries, so if one country suffers economic blues, it does not drag the rest of the world down with it. The healthy countries put hands out toward support and bring the recessionary country out off its troubles.

This can only be accomplished if we give all countries energy Independence. This means drilling in Geothermal Wells around the Globe..and giving all countries their own power supply, instead of buying coal from one place, forcing Europe to buy Russian Oil, creating mega militaries who encroach on Rich Energy Resource Countries...

When we achieve our own independence energy resource, we have real freedom...We have real security.

Geothermal is the answer and the new Brentwoods Accord needs to encompass this fact of this Geothermal ideology.. Whether it is called the GeoBrentwoods Accord, or the New Energy Independence Money Policy....it means we are on the right path toward creating security for each and every nation, but also stopping the Global Warming Threat.

Many things come into play on the issue of finance, but our main driver is Energy first....Money 2nd.

Please see further views on some of the other great benefits to what I have said here. In fact the new Brentwoods G-20 Summit meeting can eliminate the entire TAX SCHEME forever.

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/paulson-cause-world-recession....

Rev. Jermano

God Bless

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Rhonda J Mangus

djermano, thank you for reading, commenting, and the link.  I would agree that "We have to dissolve the chain link between countries, so if one country suffers economic blues, it does not drag the rest of the world down with it [which the US did]. The healthy countries put hands out toward support and bring the recessionary country out off its troubles." and "When we achieve our own independence energy resource, we have real freedom...We have real security." However, money is and always will be NUMBER ONE! Sad, but true!

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