Gang Stalking: Conversation with Sheriff Mack

How are you being persecuted?

There you go again with the "you gotta do the research!" nonsense. 

If you can't address the talking points, then don't. 

Stop twisting my argument around to vilify me. 

I'm saying that the COINTELPRO of the 50's, 60's, and 70's, selected people that were deemed (by them) to be legitimate concerns to national security. (not arguing they actually were) These were all people that were doing something that was considered subversive. It was a real program with real goals. 

What is posited by most gang stalking victims,  is that they were "nobodies" this program picked randomly, not for reason of their own behavior or activities but because they were convenient. The only tangible goal is their own belief that their destruction is necessary for the realization of some kind of global police state. (which is pretty stupid if you ask me)

SO John Doe shove it up your ass. I'm talking about COINTELPRO. Not 2012. 

anyone who attempts to link THEIR PERSONAL VICTIMIZATION [ the governments out to get me paranoia ] in any fashion to COINTELPRO or MKUltra are plainly disinfo agents. Peacefrog being numero uno. and lets be clear on this. if you're a Scrivener or Peacefrog constantly screaming on line that the governments out to get you. You can bet that the local LEO's have taken a good look at you for the sake of community safety. People who rant on about government conspiracies eventually end up blowing something up and killing many innocent bystanders. and I wouldn't doubt that Scrivener's proctologist has a standing order to ignore the six feet of shielded coaxial up his a$$. that's one nut job you want to know where he's at every moment of the day. It wont be long before we're reading about how he's gunned down a bus full of school children or migrant workers.

COINTELPRO and any other counterintelligence program are two different things. If you refer to any current counterintelligence program as being the same or like the late fifties/60's era COINTELPRO you're a disinfo agent. Batvette is right on the money making that distinction. Too bad you can't put that together for yourself disinfo agent Peacefrog.

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Anon E. Mouse and batvette lack a little something upstairs, if you get the gist.  I think they both need to skittle off to a library somewhere, do their research and write their own articles about GS, since they seem to have many of the answers.

if that is the level of your capacity to make distinctions then you should be tracked for your own safety and the safety of the public at large. way too many of you conspiracy nut jobs going off the reservation and killing innocent bystanders going into walmart or some suburban mall because your shadow suddenly turned into justin bieber and you're freaking out because no one believes your story that you're carrying his love child because the government slipped something into your cola.

AEM wrote:  "way too many of you conspiracy nut jobs going off the reservation and killing innocent bystanders going into walmart or some suburban mall because your shadow"....... This is the story that's being told and believed by those pushing this sadistic program that involves surveillance (and more) of those deemed by the nutcases running this show to be mentally ill.  This is why we need laws.  Because there will always be nutcases like AEM who think that we don't need due process of law in order to run programs like the one that AEM so clearly (and misguidedly) supports.

How are YOU being persecuted, batvette????

Saturday, Apr 21, 2012....... Surveillance State evils.......  By Glenn Greenwald......   www.salon.com/2012/04/21/e_2/singleton/........  This is the crux of it.

It may be working for now, but GS is not the way that we should do things in America. It's a program that must be exposed and stopped.  People like Anon E. Rat feel good about themselves when they engage in their witch-hunts.  They feel like they're really doing something good, when in reality they are driving the victims of GS crazy.  The Bush-era torture program and Obama's drone program (with targeted assassinations) are radicalizing people.  The GS program is pushing people in the direction of committing crimes.  Most will never commit a crime, but some are driven in that direction -- it's a program which is pushing people over the edge.  Anyone involved in the stalking, harassment, thefts, vandalism, surveillance is complicit, as is anyone who knows that isn't actively trying to bring this program to a halt.  Anyone who is a part of this program has blood on his/her hands.

Anon E. Rat says "STFU."  Mature and productive.  If you know exactly what GS is, then you should be writing about it, instead of taking pot-shots at others.  And guess what, "I don't have to shut up."  I can comment till the cows come home.  You don't agree with what I say?  Tough luck, bubba.

batvette said, "What the situation looks like now with all the luxury hindsight offers is irrelevant."  Oh, that's a beaut, batvette.  You really don't get it, but are oh-so-sure that you do.

Any target worth his or her salt would WANT to do the research.

batvette can't make his arguments with his head, so he resorts to saying things like the following:  "SO John Doe shove it up your ass"   Ah, that makes you seem so credible, batvete.  What it does, in fact, is make you seem like someone who's a little off-his-rocker... maybe a little mentally ill and gee, the next leap in the GS playbook would be, "He need to be watched and followed...is a little unstable... That's how it works, in part, batvette.  Is it right?  Hell, no.  But that's the way it works.

"Corporate Fascism"  (as Captain America correctly terms it)... Here's a prime example:.....Report: ...Wal-Mart hushed up bribe network in Mexico..... AP posted: 2:17 AM 04/22/12......... ...........   www.dailyfinance.com/article/report-wal-mart-hushed-up-bribe-network/2164814/?ncid=webmail3 .....

the more government you have the more opportunity for excessive government. simple fact. you all whine like stuck pigs when something happens that the state isn't looking after you to your expectations and then scream louder when the state acts. everyone of the collective "conspiracy posts" are over blown and hysterical abuse of information. you are disinformation artists and nothing more. why? because everyone of you all hold the extreme as the rule and color everyone of state institution/organizations with the same sweeping hysterical brush. the fact that you all think the government has nothing better to do than follow your ignorant ass around all day is telling enough. the why you specifically have been chosen for this shadow enterprise never seems to make it onto paper. we are simply expected to accept that yes the government does indeed follow you all around 24/7 as a means of controlling you. the problem i have with that is how can i believe what someone who is being controlled by the government has to say about being controlled by the government. oops. back to the drawing board peacefrog.

and what does the government get for all that money, man hours, and very expensive new age tech they invest in shadowing you and yours????? you're nobody. a big fat zero on the ledger of humanity. zero contribution to the advance of human kind. how come you rate this special attention???

These goons are working in communities all across this country:....freemanireland.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gang-stalking-city-bullies-man-to-death-over-his-backyard

brilliant retort. don't tell me. you all are lawyers like peacefrog too?

...the mouse squeaks, "What does the government get for all that money..."  Hell, what did the Stasi get?  As to the "you're a nobody" angle?  If you wanted to hide a program (for whatever crazy reason), whom would you target?

I wasn't shooting for "brilliant", rat-boy.  Just asking the obvious question.

Go to www.nostasi.com/   , or  www.theintrovertspeaks.com/

sometarget,  Perhaps you could elaborate.

Anon E. Mouse = batvette. He spouts the same "the police are always right" worldview.

you obviously don't have a clue as to the intent of the stasi if you are comparing our police forces to that organization. though you do make my point for me since the stasi did not go after nobodies. they pursued enemies of the state. you had to behave in a way that would get you on the list of known dissidents. nobodies like you or i could go on about our daily lives with out fear of being tortured by the stasi. we could even engage in a little black marketing. just keep your mouth shut and don't criticize the glorious liberalism of the communist state.

Yep, an entire industry could revolve around people on the Emotionally Disturbed Persons List.

Yet not one person has ever come forward and admitted their participation in this. 
Why is that?   
Because they are of such low moral fiber. 
Just not low enough to take their story to the national enquirer, right?
I think most mentally healthy people could be made to acquiesce in this way, don't you?
In what way? What was done to mentally healthy you that now has people calling you crazy? 

I needn't defend my credibility against personal attacks by "anonymous".