Gang Stalking: Conversation with Sheriff Mack

by PeaceFrog | March 29, 2012 at 05:41 am
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    Sheriff Richard Mack came to my attention because of his public statements regarding fidelity to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I wondered how the former elected Sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, would react to the nationwide blight of gang stalking, and the FBI's unwillingness to address the issue in the face of countless complaints by TI's (well over a dozen I have personally communicated with made numerous, futile attempts to get the FBI involved in investigating gang stalking).

     I sent Mack an email with links to information about gang stalking. I highlighted the KENS-5 San Antonio News story about gang stalking because Mack is running for a Congressional seat that includes a large portion of San Antonio. After several follow up calls to Mack and his staff I received an email response from Mack yesterday:

I looked at the story and find it alarming and unbelievable. I am not sure it falls under the jurisdiction of Congress to resolve this. I know a very good sheriff candidate for Bexar County Sheriff who should look at this. It is a law enforcement concern. I'd be willing to discuss your concerns anytime.

     I called Mack and left a message with his staff. He promptly called me back that same day. In our conversation, Mack was candid and interested in providing me with answers and suggestions. He was surprised that, given the information he was provided on gang stalking, the issue was not receiving more attention in the media or by law enforcement. 

      One of the questions I put to him was based on the belief that the FBI's lack of response to targeted individuals' complaints is based on the FBI's involvement in a Counterintelligence Program related to gang stalking. I asked Mack, "Have you ever been told to stop an investigation by the FBI  because there was an ongoing federal investigation, because I'm getting the feeling that's what is going on here?" He answered "No, but I'm aware of cases in which other Sheriff's have been told that." I believe Mack was being sincere and thoroughly truthful.

     I asked Mack what, based on his experience, was the best advocacy option for targets of gang stalking. He said that the issue should be brought to the attention of Sheriffs' associations and Police Chief's associations. The best way to do this, he said, was to have targeted individuals write an informational letter about gang stalking to their local Sheriff and Police Chief. This could be done by drafting a letter and having it signed by a number of targets in a given jurisdiction. I believe that Mack's advice is some of the best I've heard in my years of gang stalking awareness advocacy.

       FFCHS at freedomfchs.com, lists contact information for local area TI support groups in its newsletter, these include: Massachusetts,  L.A., the Bay area, the Greater New York area, Washington, D.C., and surrounding areas, Tucson, Denver, Louisiana, etc.

Here is a sample, form letter that I think will be helpful:

Dear Sheriff (or Police Chief):

      There is a growing, nationwide criminal trend that is occurring in your jurisdiction of (   ). This crime involves the violation of civil rights of numerous individuals in your jurisdiction and nationwide. Victims of this crime have labeled it gang stalking. This crime has yet to be meaningfully addressed by either federal or local authorities. The undersigned are victims who are currently targeted by the crime and are seeking relief. The information below will give you a good overview of the problem. We thank you for your time and consideration. We look forward to contacting you after you have had a chance to review the materials: 

 Here are some DOJ statistics that were obtained through the FOIA on the subject of gang stalking:

http://www.multistalkervictims.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf

 

Here are links to news stories and related materials on gang stalking:    

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=490_1297716994

http://www.kens5.com/news/Stalked-drugged-and-raped-Is-it-happening-in-San-Antonio.html

http://www.randomcollection.info/gunderson.pdf

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

 

     Thanks again for your time and interest. 

                                                                            Sincerely Yours,

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George of the Jungle

re: "Whatever the victims may or may not have done"

If you believe that gangstalking is a response to something the victims may have done, or has something to do with punishing immoral behavior - think again.

It's clearly about command and control, and cleverly crushing whatever threat the Gangstalking & Torture & Surveillance Nationwide Network might perceive a victim to be.

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George of the Jungle

Ohm and I forgot - people are also being framed to look immoral to make you believe that. Fake porn emails, histories and signups to porn sites in the victims name are mere child's play compared to the lengths they'll go to set up a victim.

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Captain America

Cops who entrap criminals by urging them to commit crimes and providing the means and weapons to do so ought to be prosecuted as accomplices. Making that a law would shut down these useless, nitwit entrapment schemes (usually planned by cops whose brains would be better employed by eating doughnuts).

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Scrivener

If your suggestion became law, what would the fusion center agency/command/corporation "terrorist task forces" do all day?  The entrapment set-ups and attempted frame-ups directed my way haven't involved weapons, but they fit your definition of "nitwit" schemes for sure.  The latest: the spamming of my email inbox with unsolicited email from an "adult classifieds service."  I could write a book; in fact, I intend to....

http://nowpublic.com/world/facebook-suspension-or-u-s-govt-mil-contractor-censorship-fraud

http://nowpublic.com/world/thugocracy-fed-cop-vigilante-gestapo-persecutes-citizen-targets

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Captain America

I agree with George. When I wrote "may or may not have done," I was captured by the mindset that the victim must have stepped on a trip wire of some sort to get the fusions centers' attention. But you're more right about how victims are chosen  than I -- it's about mind-controlling Americans --  victims and even moreso the  stalkers.

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Scrivener

The targeting is done mainly for reasons of politics, ideology and hate.  In my case, my long career as a successful mainstream media reporter has been destroyed, along with my earnings capacity and my physical well-being.   Circumstantial evidence points to the U.S. Secret Service as the agency that initiated my targeting, although I cannot provide definitive proof.  I believe the targeting began as a result of my investigative reporting into controversial issues ranging from corporate malfeasance, nuclear power and the assassination of President Kennedy.  But it is also possible that a rogue element of the military or an intelligence agency targeted me as far back as my college days, when I attended protest marches against the Vietnam War (as a reporter first and foremost, although like many others of my generation, I opposed the war).  And then there is the fact that I am a member of a religious minority that has been persecuted throughout the ages by extremist elements and a dangerous element within the homeland-military-intel security complex -- within government and among its military contractor "community."  I describe this element as an extremist, hate-fueled security CULT with strong connections to certain quasi-religious orders and secret societies.

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anonymous comment

That's what these sadistic assholes do. They ruin good lives.  And they enjoy it.

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George of the Jungle

Seriously? "For reasons of politics, ideology and hate"?

No, it's being done for reasons of power, control, and submission, they could care less about ideology and hate, they're all corrupt anyways.

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anonymously commenting

I would suggest that it's a mixed bag and is being done for any or all of the above reasons.  As "George of the Jungle" correctly says, "They're all corrupt."  There can be little doubt about that.

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George of the Jungle

Your right, it's a rule of reasons.

Politics, ideology and hate .... power, control, and submission ... and everything else on both ends and in between.

The master manipulators rule them all.

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commenting anonymously

It has to stop.

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anon com

Gang Stalking: Michael Moore & Susan Sarandon Targeted! | NowPublic News Coverage my.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-michael-moore-susan-sarandon-targeted#ixzz1t49dncGv

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anonymous comment

The Signs And Techniques of Online COINTELPRO By Stephen DeVoy=======www.indybay.org/olduploads/introtoonlinecointelprofree.pdf=====An excellent link, PeaceFrog.  I'm repeating it with the title and author -- it's a great resource.  Thanks for your ongoing efforts to get GS out in the open.

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anonymously commenting

Let's pull this out to a spot where this exchange might actually be seen.  PeaceFrog has supplied it before, but "batvette" keeps asking.=========================================================batvette------- at 00:36 on April 25th, 2012-------      AND HOW IS ENDLESSLY REPORTING PERSONAL ACCOUNTS OF GANG STALKING VICTIMIZATION ON THE INTERNET GOING FOR TARGETS?Let's not hide behind other "targets", which seems to be a common theme for you. Let's talk about why YOU don't have any account on record anywhere about how YOU are being "gang stalked" yet you proliferate the internet with misleading information purporting to be some authority on the issue.  =========================================================PeaceFrog------- at 19:13 on April 25th, 2012--------       My FBI file containing details of my being gang stalked is public record, Labella v. FBI (07-cv-2330, (E.D.N.Y. 2007).

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batvette

A google search of  " Labella v. FBI (07-cv-2330, (E.D.N.Y. 2007)" does not find document, only two references to document in other peoples' cases. 

Why can't he simply provide a link to said document? Or just say how he experiences gang stalking in his life? Why is he so resisting to talk about it? 

One can only conclude his agenda is to validate his own delusions on the experiences of others. 

I found the judgements of the courts on said documents and they just show the FBI's search was thorough and there was little on him. 

FOIA requests are not him filing reports on how gang stalking affected him and only provide more evidence he thinks a wide spread conspiracy exists against him with nothing at all to support this. 


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anon com

     An excellent resource:................. www.indybay.org/olduploads/introtoonlinecointelprofree.pdf

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An anonymous comment

Published on Thursday, April 26, 2012 by TruthDig.com----- The NSA Is Watching You----- by Amy Goodman----- Three targeted Americans: A career government intelligence official, a filmmaker and a hacker. None of these U.S. citizens was charged with a crime, but they have been tracked, surveilled, detained—sometimes at gunpoint—and interrogated, with no access to a lawyer. Each remains resolute in standing up to the increasing government crackdown on dissent.-----(Photo by CC-BY) The intelligence official: William Binney worked for almost 40 years at the secretive National Security Agency (NSA), the U.S. spy agency that dwarfs the CIA. As technical director of the NSA’s World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, Binney told me, he was tasked to “see how we could solve collection, analysis and reporting on military and geopolitical issues all around the world, every country in the world.” Throughout the 1990s, the NSA developed a massive eavesdropping system code-named ThinThread, which, Binney says, maintained crucial protections on the privacy of U.S. citizens demanded by the U.S. Constitution. He recalled, “After 9/11, all the wraps came off for NSA,” as massive domestic spying became the norm. He resigned on Oct. 31, 2001.----- Along with several other NSA officials, Binney reported his concerns to Congress and to the Department of Defense. Then, in 2007, as then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was being questioned on Capitol Hill about the very domestic spying to which Binney objected, a dozen FBI agents charged into his house, guns drawn. They forced aside his son and found Binney, a diabetic amputee, in the shower. They pointed their guns at his head, then led him to his back porch and interrogated him.----- Three others were raided that morning. Binney called the FBI raid “retribution and intimidation so we didn’t go to the Judiciary Committee in the Senate and tell them, ‘Well, here’s what Gonzales didn’t tell you, OK.’ ” Binney was never charged with any crime.----- The filmmaker: Laura Poitras is an Academy Award-nominated documentary filmmaker, whose recent films include “My Country, My Country,” about the U.S. occupation of Iraq, and “The Oath,” which was filmed in Yemen. Since 2006, Poitras has been detained and questioned at airports at least 40 times. She has had her computer and reporter’s notebooks confiscated and presumably copied, without a warrant. The most recent time, April 5, she took notes during her detention. The agents told her to stop, as they considered her pen a weapon.----- She told me: “I feel like I can’t talk about the work that I do in my home, in my place of work, on my telephone, and sometimes in my country. So the chilling effect is huge. It’s enormous."----- The hacker: Jacob Appelbaum works as a computer security researcher for the nonprofit organization the Tor Project (torproject.org), which is a free software package that allows people to browse the Internet anonymously, evading government surveillance. Tor was actually created by the U.S. Navy, and is now developed and maintained by Appelbaum and his colleagues. Tor is used by dissidents around the world to communicate over the Internet. Tor also serves as the main way that the controversial WikiLeaks website protects those who release documents to it. Appelbaum has volunteered for WikiLeaks, leading to intense U.S. government surveillance.----- Appelbaum spoke in place of Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, at a conference called Hackers on Planet Earth, or HOPE, as people feared Assange would be arrested. He started his talk by saying: “Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic and international surveillance. I’m here today because I believe that we can make a better world.” He has been detained at least a dozen times at airports: “I was put into a special room, where they frisked me, put me up against the wall. ... Another one held my wrists. ... They implied that if I didn’t make a deal with them, that I’d be sexually assaulted in prison. ... They took my cellphones, they took my laptop. They wanted, essentially, to ask me questions about the Iraq War, the Afghan War, what I thought politically.”----- I asked Binney if he believed the NSA has copies of every email sent in the U.S. He replied, “I believe they have most of them, yes.”----- Binney said two senators, Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, have expressed concern, but have not spoken out, as, Binney says, they would lose their seats on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Meanwhile, Congress is set to vote on the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA. Proponents of Internet freedom are fighting the bill, which they say will legalize what the NSA is secretly doing already.----- Members of Congress, fond of quoting the country’s founders, should recall these words of Benjamin Franklin before voting on CISPA: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”----- Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.----- © 2012 Amy Goodman

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Scrivener

The WAR CRIMINAL FELONS of the Lockheed Martin real-time telecom/internet censorship regime -- which this journalist has thoroughly exposed as a constitution-violating warrantless surveillance outrage -- have DISAPPEARED the comments section/boxes on the Philly.com article on the arrest of the alleged Mayfair (Phila.) tire slasher -- a NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH member.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20120426_In_Mayfair__outrage_over_tire-slashing_arrest.html

Is it because I would point out in my comment that these federally-funded, police-supported untrained vigilante posses attract a rogue element of power-abusing thugs and criminals? 

AMONG THE WORST CRIMINALS ARE THE MILITARY CONTRACTOR OPERATIVES, SUPERVISORS AND GOVERNMENT OVERLORDS WHO DEVISE AND ADMINISTER THESE GESTAPO-LIKE PROGRAMS -- AND THEN CENSOR JOURNALISTS WHO EXPOSE THEIR CRIMES AGAINST AMERICANS AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. See "Gestapo USA" at http://VicLivingston.blogspot.com/
http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2012/01/thugocracy-u.html

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Scrivener

 Suddenly, just today, the comments sections of Philadelphia.cbslocal.com and BucksLocalNews.com no longer are in a proprietary format, but are presented to me over my Lockheed Martin- intercepted and censored connection as "Disqus" format comments -- and each time I attempt to post a comment, I receive a "comments await moderation" box -- APPARENTLY A PHONY MESSAGE INSERTED BY THE SAME LOCKHEED MARTIN/USG CENSORSHIP REGIME OPERATIVES WHO APPARENTLY ARE CENSORING AMERICANS' INTERNET SPEECH VIA FRAUD AND DECEPTION -- THE INSERTION OF PHONY, SPOOFED 'COMMENTS' SECTION INTERNET PAGES. 

THIS IS WORSE THAN RED CHINA- STYLE CENSORSHIP. THE ARCHITECTS AND OPERATIVES OF THIS CENSORSHIP REGIME ARE SERIAL VIOLATORS OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF AMERICANS. THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THEIR POSITIONS, ARRESTED, TRIED AND CONVICTED AND SENT TO FEDERAL PRISON.
LOCKHEED MARTIN RUNS DRACONIAN CENSORSHIP REGIME FOR U.S. AGENCIES/COMMANDS -- INTERCEPTS, CENSORS, TAMPERS WITH TELECOMMUNICATIONS OF EXTRAJUDICIALLY 'TARGETED' AMERICANS, LEAVING THEM VULNERABLE TO I.D. THEFT, FRAUD, SAYS VETERAN JOURNALIST:


http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-internet-political-speech-fraud-deception

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet

http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/

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anonymously commenting

Anyone who cares about the future of this country will want to watch this:  ======www.democracynow.org/2012/4/26/targeted_hacker_jacob_appelbaum_on_cispa=====Targeted Hacker Jacob Appelbaum on CISPA, Surveillance and the "Militarization of Cyberspace"===== Computer security researcher Jacob Appelbaum argues the measures included in the proposed Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) would essentially legalize military surveillance of U.S. citizens. "When they want to dramatically expand their ability to do these things in a so-called 'legal manner,' it’s important to note what they’re trying to do is to legalize what they have already been doing," Appelbaum says. He is a developer and advocate for the Tor Project, a network enabling its users to communicate anonymously on the internet, and has volunteered with WikiLeaks. [Transcript to come. Check back soon.]======== Jacob Appelbaum, computer security researcher who has volunteered with WikiLeaks. He is a developer and advocate for the Tor Project, system enabling its users to communicate anonymously on the Internet.

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anon com

ACLU Letter to DOJ Inspector General on Privacy Act Violations and Improper Targeting-----April 26, 2012------ www.aclu.org/files/assets/letter_to_oig_re_fbi_privacy_act_violations_and_improper_targeting.pdf

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anonymousxx

"Democrats, ACLU Seek Disclosure on Patriot Act Interpretation, Drone Program"========   (Refer to link at the end of this comment for the full article.) Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have been waging a lonely battle to make public information about the Justice Department’s interpretation of the Patriot Act, which they claim violates civil liberties in as-yet undisclosed ways. They tried to force this into the public sphere on the Senate floor. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein promised hearings that never materialized.===== Wyden and Udall continue to press the issue and force it into the open. Charlie Savage writes of their latest effort:============================== They said a top-secret intelligence operation that is based on that secret legal theory is not as crucial to national security as executive branch officials have maintained.---------------- The senators, who also said that Americans would be “stunned” to know what the government thought the Patriot Act allowed it to do, made their remarks in a letter to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. after a Justice Department official last month told a judge that disclosing anything about the program “could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States.”------------------ The Justice Department has argued that disclosing information about its interpretation of the Patriot Act could alert adversaries to how the government collects certain intelligence. It is seeking the dismissal of two Freedom of Information Act lawsuits — by The New York Times and by the American Civil Liberties Union — related to how the Patriot Act has been interpreted.---------------  (news.firedoglake.com/2012/03/16/democrats-aclu-seek-disclosure-on-patriot-act-interpretation-drone-program/)

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posted anonymously

Quote 1: ... He plays an ad homenim attack as defense of his government conspiracy -period, says someone named Charlie.  Quote 2: ... "... it's not a program or organized on any state or federal level. it's punk ass idiots who think that they can force themselves and their thinking on others and from my own experience it's other people who don't want anything to do with them in the first place." This said by someone with the oh-so-serious "name" Anon E. Mouse.   Quote 3:  Someone who calls himself "batvette" says, "If there are people in law enforcement involved, so be it, but it's not policy..."  Batvette also likes to play up the "mental illness" angle, with statements like the following:   "Ah, yes, there is no such thing as mental illness, only gang stalking victims, right?=====Regarding the first quote above, most victims know that GS is not a conspiracy theory.  As to Quote 2, it's known to be a program and, it's clearly organized on the local, state and federal levels, with orders flowing from top.  With regard to the mental stability of the victims/targets, it's clear that these authoritarian-types prey on the mentally ill.  Some of the mentally ill are caught up in this, as are many others who are as psychologically healthy as one could be while being targeted by these brownshirts.  Anyone who goes to law enforcement with this is dismissed, not given assistance and categorized as mentally ill.  That's the way this program works.==========  Read the following and then decide who is on the right side of this issue. ====www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/singleton/   --------Friday, Jan 15, 2010 08:16 AM EST--------- Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal--------- Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups-------- By Glenn Greenwald----------UPDATE III:  Just to get a sense for what an extremist Cass Sunstein is (which itself is ironic, given that his paper calls for ”cognitive infiltration of extremist groups,” as the Abstract puts it), marvel at this paragraph:-----------------"What can government do about conspiracy theories?  Among the things it can do, what should it do?  We can readily imagine a series of possible responses.  (1)  Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2)  Government might impose some kind of tax, financial of otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.  (3)  Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories.  (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech.  (5)  Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help.  Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions.  However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in "cognitive infiltration" of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4), and (5).

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posted anonymously

FACT:  What has been termed Gang Stalking by its victims is not a conspiracy theory and it's being run out of Washington. =======Friday, Jan 15, 2010 08:16 AM EST==== Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal==== Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups===== By Glenn Greenwald=====What has been termed Gang Stalking by its victims is not a conspiracy theory and it's being run out of Washington."Sunstein’s response to these criticisms is easy to find in what he writes, and is as telling as the proposal itself.  He acknowledges that some “conspiracy theories” previously dismissed as insane and fringe have turned out to be entirely true (his examples:  the CIA really did secretly administer LSD in “mind control” experiments; the DOD really did plot the commission of terrorist acts inside the U.S. with the intent to blame Castro; the Nixon White House really did bug the DNC headquarters).  Given that history, how could it possibly be justified for the U.S. Government to institute covert programs designed to undermine anti-government “conspiracy theories,” discredit government critics, and increase faith and trust in government pronouncements? ==============It’s certainly true that one can easily find irrational conspiracy theories in those venues, but some of the most destructive “false conspiracy theories” have emanated from the very entity Sunstein wants to endow with covert propaganda power:  namely, the U.S. Government itself, along with its elite media defenders. Moreover, “crazy conspiracy theorist” has long been the favorite epithet of those same parties to discredit people trying to expose elite wrongdoing and corruption. ==========Who is it who relentlessly spread “false conspiracy theories” of Saddam-engineered anthrax attacks and Iraq-created mushroom clouds and a Ba’athist/Al-Qaeda alliance — the most destructive conspiracy theories of the last generation?  And who is it who demonized as “conspiracy-mongers” people who warned that the U.S. Government was illegally spying on its citizens, systematically torturing people, attempting to establish permanent bases in the Middle East, or engineering massive bailout plans to transfer extreme wealth to the industries which own the Government?  The most chronic and dangerous purveyors of “conspiracy theory” games are the very people Sunstein thinks should be empowered to control our political debates through deceit and government resources:  namely, the Government itself and the Enlightened Elite like him.=========================== It is this history of government deceit and wrongdoing that renders Sunstein’s desire to use covert propaganda to “undermine” anti-government speech so repugnant.  The reason conspiracy theories resonate so much is precisely that people have learned — rationally — to distrust government actions and statements.  Sunstein’s proposed covert propaganda scheme is a perfect illustration of why that is.  In other words, people don’t trust the Government and “conspiracy theories” are so pervasive precisely because government is typically filled with people like Cass Sunstein, who think that systematic deceit and government-sponsored manipulation are justified by their own Goodness and Superior Wisdom.

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Scrivener

http://nowpublic.com/world/arrest-philly-neighborhood-watch-vigilante-tire-slashings

The arrest of a suspect who could be a less lethal version of George Zimmerman, charged with murder in the Trayvon Martin case, appears to further validate this veteran journalist's reporting on how government-funded community policing and neighborhood watch programs nationwide serve as a magnet for cop-protected sociopath vigilantes who serially abuse and persecute citizens extrajudicially targeted as "dissidents" or slandered as potential criminals.


http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2012/01/thugocracy-u.html

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anon com

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/al-franken-cries-violence-against-women-act_n_1456705.html  (In light of GS, some of the comments are interesting.  We are an incredibly violent people, and GS activities point to the sadistic nature of many of those in this country.)

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The 1

"We are an incredibly violent people, and GS activities point to the sadistic nature of many of those in this country."
..specifically those sadist who are involved in organized activist stalking activities (gang_stalking); and also those using non-lethal electromagnetic spectrum no-touch torture weapons technologies_"non-lethal weapons" (NLW's)..

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anon com

The 1,  I so wish that there were a way to get this out in the open.  Some of it is going on in plain sight and there are large numbers of people participating.  I'm at a loss.  Naively, I never imagined that Americans would do this to other Americans.

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The 1

anon com (not verified)

I couldn't agree with you more on this issue..Here's what I've seen..

First these sadist assholes are part of, as you rightly suggest, a large number of individuals carrying out a very specific, highly organized, physical as well as psychological program operation against a single individual target. That is part (1) of their strength. Usually only one target at a time involved.

Part (2) is to isolate and create a buffer zone between themselves and the target. To maintain that buffer at all times if possible.

(3) To make their actions so unassuming to others as to make the targeted individual (TI) look crazy for suggesting anything unusual is happening around them. A perfect psychological as well as physical buffer is then created around the target without the public seeing it or being aware of it's existence. This program having been well thought out and implemented through years of practice.

(4) This plays into keeping this operation covert on many levels in psychological as well as physical ways to any general public perception. Thats why when we try to bring this issue into the light, the general public can't see it, and most importantly, can't even believe it exist.

General public perception is another topic actually with all it's own motives_with which American media and the military industrial complex political machine has become experts at manipulating.

Last this operating isn't just these boots on the ground assholes stalking victims. It's some vast operational agency complex from street level up through local community and law enforcement agencies_through state and federal control agencies apparatus/structure.

All the nuances that you, Peacefrog and some others here have brought to light about this operational stalking program in how it works; it's physical as well as psychological factors that drives it means there must be an almost satanic, nazi type cult hidden government structure in place running it. I don't believe many public politicians are even aware of the totality of it's existence. Being told it's some "anti-terrorism surveillance program" as it's cover. Being some secret government agency probably under some DOD/NSA/CIA control.

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anon com

An excellent summary of OS/GS, The 1.  The problem, as you say, is systemic.  It's like a cancer that has metastasized... and there are days (like today) when I wonder if it's too late to stop it.  Thanks for your comment.   All we can do is just keep pushing forward.   (I'm sorry to be so brief in my comments, but I'm bone-tired this morning and there are always the tasks of daily living -- the things that one must do to just to stay alive, even in the face of this madness.)

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