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by PeaceFrog | July 18, 2012 at 06:41 am
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Uncivilized political practices have stepped up into the realm of harassment and privacy abuses by the misuse of "trackers" by the Democratic Party. Trackers have been used by both parties to spy on one another, and, in theory, to use a type of counter-party surveillance to police political misbehavior.
The Democratic Party unilaterally decided to allow the practice to devolve into gutter politics of overt harassment and personal privacy abuses that would not be acceptable in a civilized political system. The Democratic operative "trackers" starting filming their Republican counterparts at their homes and businesses, and, then, uploading that personal data en masse onto Youtube. This was all done with an eye toward circumventing federal election law spending rules, i.e., to generate cheap dirt for attack ads.
To their credit, mainstream media sources have run this story without pulling any punches, describing the behavior of the trackers as stalking.
This disgusting practice is more reminiscent of the activities of criminal gangs in the Red Guard under Chairman Mao than it is of the core populist values of F.D.R.
Those concerned with gang stalking and other anti-social trends should keep in mind that they get the "political animals" that they vote for in this system.
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at 09:24 on July 18th, 2012
The military contractor psyops/disinformation agent "Peacefrog" wrote a recent "article" blaming the Jews for "gangstalking." Now it's the Democrats.
Peacefrog's displays of lame military contractor psyops illustrate how NowPublic.com has become an outlet for reactionary, libelous military contractor psyops.
The fact is that LOCKHEED MARTIN coordinates the communications for the community policing/neighborhood watch government-funded "programs" that serve as a false-front for "gangstalking," and Peacefrog's apparent mission is to scapegoat the Jews, the Democrats, or any other contrived "enemy" to keep the focus off the REAL godfathers of "gangstalking" -- among them, world's largest defense contractor, which, this veteran journalist has concluded, is a corporate seat of global fascism, the contractor-overseer of the U.S. government cell tower radio frequency weapon system that assaults targets of what the disinformation agent "Peacefrog" terms "gangstalking."
http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2012/01/thugocracy-u.html
http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2011/12/u.html
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anon comment (not verified)at 10:07 on July 18th, 2012
GS behaviors are found in many quarters. PeaceFrog didn't "blame the Jews" and he isn't blaming the Democrats. Read with an open mind, Scriv. Aren't investigative journalists supposed to be critical thinkers?
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anon, too (not verified)at 10:20 on July 18th, 2012
Hey, Scrivener/"Vic": I happen to be acquainted with some folks who work for Lockheed. One is Jewish, one is WASPy, another is a Dem, and one happens to be a Republican. So would you say that it's only the WASP and the Republican who are involved in said "coordination?"
at 03:37 on July 19th, 2012
I think Scrivener and I can for once agree on one thing, this article is disinformation which only serves to confuse and obfuscate the truth. No surprise the Peacefrog sock/meat puppets are here to reinforce his stupidity. "It's gangstalking. End of story." So I guess this just gives you one more story as lived by someone else you can call your own, right?
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reposting (not verified)at 05:56 on July 19th, 2012
www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-democrats-video-republicans-homes-20120709,0,3553608.story ..................Comment by Salamero at 1:05 PM July 11, 2012.................................... "as usual no one will be punished, gang stalking is a serious crime, and everyone should know who is responsible for using the cops and other public employee unions to gang stalk anyone they choose, with impunity." (Sure batvette, it's all disinformation. All of it, except what you decide isn't disinformation which, as it turns out, is only what you believe.)
at 18:03 on July 19th, 2012
You found someone posting it in the comments of an opinion piece on the internet so it validates your beliefs.
Good grief you really are a jackhole.
So are you being stalked by cops and public employee unions? What did they do to you? Did you film this? Or is this merely another of your living vicariously in the lives of others moments?
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anonymously offered (not verified)at 06:31 on July 21st, 2012
Deny it all you want. The truth is the truth. Gang stalking techniques were employed in Stockton, CA; and the cops and a public employee union were/are involved. (Name-calling? It makes one question the commenter's mental age. If one can't argue on the facts, one resorts to name-calling and/or personalizes the issue?) ........................www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalked-police-city-manager-compares-cops-capone-gang............................................................................................(www.lris.com/2012/01/09/both-sides-claim-victory-in-ongoing-stockton-police-saga/)--------------------- "While the police union didn’t break any laws by purchasing the home next to Deis, Holland concluded, he made disparaging comparisons against the police actions, implicating their bad-faith bargaining.------------------- The judge compared the union to a stalker who shows up while the victim shops or a biker gang that drives en masse, “banners waving,” past the prosecutors’ homes on their way to court where a club member is on trial.----------------- Based on his ruling, a judge or jury at trial will ultimately decide if the home deal amounts to an intimidation tactic.---------------------- The judge dismissed a motion filed by the police union seeking to punish the city for their counter suit, which would burden them with legal fees and chill the officers’ desire to defend themselves.---------------------------------------- The judge did not rule on the alleged role David French, a long retired Stockton police officer, played in leading the union to buy the home next to Deis. Holland assigned a court referee to help both sides settle that dispute."
at 17:00 on July 25th, 2012
Always stealing the stories you find on the internet because you don't have your own.
I repeat, what is happening to you?
And stop deflecting with "why should I offer my story to you?" which is a red herring. If you were really being tortured and ruined you would have been eager to come forward long ago and report details to document the crimes against you in an effort to stop them.
Your sole interest appears to be being able to say "me too!" about a problem happening to others so you have something to complain about and draw attention to yourself.
This is why you post anonymously- you're no TI, you're a crackpot "virtual TI" living a second life online. Log off your computer and go back to your normal life.
You disgust me.
at 06:04 on July 19th, 2012
Gang stalking is not about individual struggles or individual stories. It is a group problem based upon a toxic social movement supported by anti-social trends, as depicted in this article. You want victims to personalize it so as to foreclose the possibility of ending it. YOU, BATVETTE, ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, END OF STORY!
at 17:08 on July 25th, 2012
Gang stalking is not about individual struggles or individual stories. It is a group problem based upon a toxic social movement supported by anti-social trends,
Joke. You're allegedly trying to bring this huge criminal phenomenon into the light but think that would ever happen without having to bother with identifying actual crimes committed and providing case studies which can be documented.
JOKE I SAY. ANY VICTIM OF ACTUAL CRIMES WANTS TO DISCUSS THEM. YOU PEOPLE ARE FAKES. FRAUDS.
THIS IS WHY YOU DISCUSS GLOBAL CONSPIRACIES, "TOXIC SOCIAL MOVEMENTS", ETC, AND NOT "THESE PEOPLE DID THIS TO ME AND HERE IS FILM OF THEM DOING IT". iT'S A FANTASY YOU CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE FROM REALITY.
at 17:29 on July 25th, 2012
Batvette writes,
You're allegedly trying to bring this huge criminal phenomenon into the light but think that would ever happen without having to bother with identifying actual crimes committed and providing case studies which can be documented.
WHERE ARE ALL OF YOUR POLICE REPORTS FOR THESE INCIDENTS JOHN LUCIER A.K.A. "BATVETTE"?
BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ
at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk
Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR
at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFn2867
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at 17:14 on July 25th, 2012
You claim millions of people are participants in this. You claim that an inevitable part of this is family and friends being approached by agents posing as /are law enforcement who tell them dirty lies about the target and go on to act for years to cause their ruin.
Yet out of all those millions and millions more, over all these years, not ONE alleged participant or family member approached has EVER come forward and told their story, NOT ONE.
Why is that? You mean every family member caved in and remained silent? Not one said "hey that ain't right" and talked?
BULLs h i t.
at 17:31 on July 25th, 2012
bATVETTE,
EXPLAIN THE TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY YOU ARE CLAIMING THESE DAYS, AS COMPARED TO YOUR WHINE B I T C H STORIES FROM 2009. REMEMBER?
BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ
at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk
Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR
at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFn2867
These were the tags you chose:
USA, California, San Diego, Surveillance, CIA, United States, 2012, World, DOJ, fascism, DHS, Big Brother, America, NSA, 1984, redneck, War on Terrorism, TI, manifesto, new world order, mkultra, neighborhood watch, dew, COINTELPRO, directed energy weapons, Community Policing, gangstalking, organized stalking, cause stalking, batvette,undesirables, JNLWP, ultrasonics, fourth reich
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIGabQS0
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gang Stalking: Wikipedia's Agent Provocateurs & Cyber trolls | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 9 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-wikipedias-agent-provocateurs-cyber-trolls#ixzz21ghee8Bi
at 17:40 on July 25th, 2012
How quaint, using my life story to discredit me.
Actually he spams when the subject is a question he wants buried- why is it he refuses to document one minute of one day of his life as a "gang stalking" victim?
He isn't one.
As for the question, I evolved in 3 years. I learned things, such as the world is full of self serving jackholes like you who will readily disinform people and harm them, for their own agenda.
You remained a jackhole.
at 17:42 on July 25th, 2012
Batvette,
I evolved in 3 years. I learned things,
Learned how to bury information on gang stalking from Wikipedia? Explain WHY?
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passing through (not verified)at 13:06 on July 26th, 2012
Peacefrog has adapted the Muslim behavior of killing those who dare to leave the religion. Believer's beware.
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could be anyone (not verified)at 05:20 on July 26th, 2012
Regarding batvette who says that he's "evolved." "Devolved" would be a better term, IMO. He denies basic facts about gang stalking, yet claims to be a victim. His delusional "my walls are moving" accounts "are credible", in his words, and yet others who accurately relate the tactics used in GS are the crazy ones.
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Read and learn, batvette (not verified)at 08:57 on July 19th, 2012
As Peacefrog elucidated: "as the old proverb goes, a fish rots from the head. If the people condone anti-social activity of this kind by their leaders, can they reasonably expect a civil society free from toxic social movements like gang stalking?"
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Anonymously commenting (not verified)at 09:44 on July 18th, 2012
"This disgusting practice is more reminiscent of the activities of criminal gangs in the Red Guard under Chairman Mao than it is of the core populist values of F.D.R." Well said. It's "disgusting" and despicable, and it should cease. (Though you alluded to this in your article, Republican "trackers" are also engaging in some of the same behavior but, to date, apparently haven't, yet, uploaded any personal videos, according to the two articles which are cited.) Predatory stalking has become a way of life, for many in this country, it would seem. It will destroy us, in the end, if we don't find a way to stop it.
at 11:19 on July 18th, 2012
This specific stalking activity sounds much more like what possibly movie stars and celebrities go through. By groups like the paparazzi who conduct what sounds like very similar stalking activity to these "trackers" stalking politicians homes and businesses, then uploading that personal data en masse onto Youtube.
I wouldn't systematically or technically refer to this as any 'gangstalking' activity. It's much more inline with possibly proxy stalking or proximity stalking activity. There wouldn't be any gangstalking street theater methods or specific psychological sensitization tactics being used.
I assume the articles title only indicates a relationship between this seemingly political party motivated surveillance (stalking style) activity, and gang-stalked victims, through some possible legal aspect or government political party involvement.
at 12:10 on July 18th, 2012
1,
I appreciate the distinctions that you are drawing. However, as the old proverb goes, a fish rots from the head. If the people condone anti-social activity of this kind by their leaders, can they reasonably expect a civil society free from toxic social movements like gang stalking?
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A victim (not verified)at 12:46 on July 18th, 2012
This behavior is most definitely part of the gangstalking matrix and no one should be attempting to marginalize it or excuse it for the sake of political bias. This behavior is on the Democratic Party. It is gangstalking. End of story.
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Another victim (not verified)at 13:07 on July 18th, 2012
Reprehensible. But as it goes, GS isn't just for Democrats (anymore.) There are lots of folks who are in on the action. (Regarding this particular story, however, the blame is squarely with the Dems, until we hear otherwise.)
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Another link (not verified)at 16:32 on July 18th, 2012
india.nydailynews.com/newsarticle/103175de835a084ea7e8d1769b0e50fb/blog-the-public-interest-dems-stalk-former-doheny-crib
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Another take (not verified)at 16:39 on July 18th, 2012
www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-democrats-video-republicans-homes-20120709,0,3553608.story ..................Comment by Salamero at 1:05 PM July 11, 2012.................................... "as usual no one will be punished, gang stalking is a serious crime, and everyone should know who is responsible for using the cops and other public employee unions to gang stalk anyone they choose, with impunity."
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Remember this incident? (not verified)at 16:46 on July 18th, 2012
crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rep-tom-perriello-s-d-va-brothers-gas-l ; www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34934.html (FBI investigates Virginia incident.... By ANDY BARR | 3/24/10....... Law enforcement authorities are investigating the discovery of a cut propane gas line at the Virginia home of Rep. Thomas Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother, whose address was targeted by tea party activists angry at the congressman’s vote for the health care bill...... An aide to the congressman confirmed to POLITICO that a line to a propane tank behind his brother's home near Charlottesville had been sliced. )
at 17:06 on July 18th, 2012
I agree that gang stalking, as well as other anti-social incidents, are grounded in both political parties. This story focuses on Democrats because this is clearly a stalking issue that is being linked to the Democratic Party. This is a systemic practice, as opposed to some isolated, ugly incidents.
at 17:52 on July 18th, 2012
Thanks for that PeaceFrog !
Good points to both of your comments..One clarifing point to this and your above comments might also include the idea of which both you and I agree, that specifically psychological gang-stalking activities, because of the operational psychological method sophistication and logistical nationwide operational size must involve government activity and oversight. That other types of stallking, whether individual, group, proxy, or proximity stalking, could be anybody doing it and have nothing to do with government run involved 'gang-stalking'.
That this actual political type of campaign run paparazzi style stalking, may not actually involve any political components other than possibly aggressive politicial campaign managers and other individuals within political donor groups trying to get an advantage over their political opponents campaigns.
I would only suggest what you and I say PeaceFrog, needs to be as accurate and clearly delineated as possible, otherwise it attracts all types of different types of alleged stalking victims who will think they are all also being simply 'gangstalking'. It's also the reason these types of possibly loose alleged stalking inferences rightfully attracted skeptics like batvette who find exception to multiple different types of alleged stalking victims all being 'gang-stalked' victims_and not simply confused or worst, 'medically challenged individuals' claiming they are all 'gangstalked' victims.
at 18:10 on July 18th, 2012
That this actual political type of campaign run paparazzi style stalking, may not actually involve any political components other than possibly aggressive politicial campaign managers and other individuals within political donor groups trying to get an advantage over their political opponents campaigns.
Courts have made this distinction by looking for "custom and practice", "internal multiplicity of incidents", knowledge of management/ higher ups (e.g., the Monell doctrine). There does not have to be any written statement or formal policy if an inspection of the totality of circumstances leads to a finding of adoption of practice or custom. In this case, it seems clear to many in the media that this has the Pope's blessing.
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commenting anonymously (not verified)at 02:57 on July 19th, 2012
You make some very good points, The 1, but with regard to your characterization of this process as "paparazzi style stalking", "tracker" activity, as it's being described, has ramifications that go well beyond what the paparazzi are trying to achieve, of course. This is about trying to influence the election process and potentially altering public policy.