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by PeaceFrog | July 10, 2012 at 07:57 am
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Wikipedia scrubbed the information that this author added to its stalking page. This included deleting a reference to gang stalking under the Stalking by Groups subsection. It also included scrubbing two FOX-syndicated news stories on gang stalking. The first story scrubbed was the KION interview with Santa Cruz P.D. Lieutenant Larry Richard on the subject of "gang stalking" by groups. The second story scrubbed was the KENS-5 San Antonio investigative journalist piece confirming multiple open felony investigations related to gang stalking by groups by both the local San Antonio police and the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. This information had been on the Wikkipedia Stalking page since December, 2011. The scrubbing was instigated by government agent provocateur "Batvette" using the same moniker on Wikipedia as on NowPublic.
When this author attempted to reinstate the two FOX news stories, other Wikipedia "editors" sprang into action, and, retaliated by removing this author's links to official Department of Justice documents he obtained under the F.O.I.A., about stalking by groups that were working together as teams. These F.O.I.A. documents were tenured on the Wikipedia Stalking page for over ONE YEAR.
This is the Wikipedia Stalking article before the censorship occurred:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stalking&diff=prev&oldid=501435716#Stalking_by_groups
This is the current Wikipedia page after the scrubbing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking#Stalking_by_groups
Here is the Wikipedia talk page on gang stalking explaining the "rationale" behind the scrubbing redaction "edits":
In order to follow the rest of the discussion, please read the subsection "US DOJ Report on Stalking Victimization in the US / implied to indicate "gang stalking"" linked above.
The first paragraph comes to the bogus conclusion that because stalking by groups is not referred to specifically as "gang stalking" in the DOJ stalking materials, the use of the term "gang stalking" in the above-referenced FOX news pieces makes the activity of "gang stalking" different than "stalking by groups". This is purely a semantic and cosmetic difference that would be quickly understood by any "editor" at Wikipedia who was neither a government agent provocateur, nor lobotomized.
The second paragraph in the link above, as well as, Batvette's talk page on Wikipedia "deletion review for gang stalking" subsection, linked below, make it clear that government agent provocateur Batvette (the same government agent provocateur Batvette on NowPublic) initiated the deletion of the two FOX news stories on gang stalking from the Wikipedia Stalking page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Batvette#Deletion_review_for_Gang_Stalking
The two news stories were the most probative evidence of nationwide gang stalking to date. One was the only interview with an active duty police officer to publicly speak about gang stalking. The other news story was the only reference to multiple, open felony investigations relating to gang stalking.
Here was the author's response, from the Wikipedia Stalking talk page, to Batvette's perfidious action in deleting the news stories:
User Batvette is making a false distinction between "stalking by groups" and "gang stalking". Gang stalking is simply a different terminology for stalking by groups. The Stalking Report indicates substantial group stalking in America. The FOIA documents referenced in the section on Stalking by Groups indicate 185,050 cases of "group stalking" a.k.a. "gang stalking", i.e., stalking by teams or groups acting in concert. These same FOIA documents enumerate the 185,050 cases into cases of between "3" to "50" stalkers, listing a total for each category of between "3" and "50" stalkers. The "gang stalking" news stories are in fact news stories of stalking by groups. These two stories are both mainstream FOX-syndicated T.V. news stories. Gang stalking by groups of stalkers is affirmed by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz P.D. in the first story. The second story is an investigative journalist piece confirming multiple, open police investigations of multiple felony crimes in San Antonio related to gang stalking by groups of stalkers.
This response was followed by two Wikipedia "editors" posts that basically stated that the use of "gang stalking" implied conspiracy theories, and, "sensationalist" tabloid-style news. This is contradicted by the fact that both FOX-syndicated news stories were mainstream, and, were both supported by police statement confirmation in both California and Texas. Also, eluding the "editors" is the fact that stalking performed by groups necessitates the underlying crime of conspiracy!
The author replied by stressing the solid content of the relevant and highly probative news stories deleted:
Two mainstream news stories have been redacted because of semantics, to wit, the use of the term "gang stalking". These include a public statement by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz on "gang stalking" by groups. Also included is an investigative journalist news story from San Antonio finding multiple, open felony cases related to "gang stalking" by groups by both local San Antonio police, and, the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. These are both FOX-syndicated news stories. The content being scrubbed is probative, factual in nature and relevant, and, is far from being "sensationalist" or tabloid news. The fact that vast conspiracy theories are affiliated with gang stalking is irrelevant to the value of these two factually-based news stories. There are many academic topics that are mired in conspiracy from the moon landing to the J.F.K. assassination. The litmus test should be the quality and content of the materials redacted, not the conspiracy label.PeaceFrog71 (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Both articles are mainstream media news stories and contain information derived from law enforcement officials. There has been no impeachment of the content of the stories. Batvette's argument that the stories are the residue of "sensationalist" claims is irrelevant. Nothing has been adduced to impeach the credibility of the two news stories citing law enforcement concerns and investigations in both California and Texas. The entire rationale behind the redaction is the use of the term "gang stalking" in both news stories. This term has been adopted for activities of reported group stalking by some law enforcement officials. The redaction based upon the terminology "gang stalking", of otherwise highly probative material on group stalking, is cosmetic and semantic. Suggestion:
Some commentators have used the controversial term "gang stalking" to refer to reported cases of stalking by groups. [ft] PeaceFrog71(talk) 14:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
True to form, the control freak editors have barred this author from even arguing his case further on the Stalking talk page, claiming he is guilty of "edit warring".
Here is what Wired.com has to say about the politics of Wikipedia "editing":
http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker?currentPage=all
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earth6000andout (not verified)at 08:49 on August 11th, 2012
I think Peacefrog should get a personal website and link to it from here. Then, any people wanting to read about GS without the need to filter the ninety five percent level of troll spam, could do that. That is assuming they didn't shut down his site, which is likely. Never mind. Anyway, I know about the high cost of that software. A few years ago I tried to buy a copy and was given a cost of $5,000 for the cheapest thing they had. So, maybe what Peacefrog is trying to say is that he used a tool of some other type - even a hex editor or something like that - to poke around in the data files. The result would have been a little jumbled, but he probably could have pulled some information from the partially packed data blob. Then, when he saw the UofM data - he knew it was a match.
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earth6000anddone (not verified)at 09:34 on August 11th, 2012
I think Peacefrog should set up his own website, and link to it from here. Then, people wanting to see his articles and comments, but without all of the troll-spam, could do so. Of course, his site, being small - would very likely quickly be shut down by the internet corp. Oh well - never mind. I know about the SASS software, and how expensive it is. About ten years ago, I tried to buy a copy, but was given a price of around $5,000 for the cheapest thing they had. Maybe, what Peacefrog is saying, is that he used some other tool - perhaps a hex editor or something like that - and used it to poke around in the data files. The result would have been a little jumbled, but he could probably have extracted some information from the partially packed data blob ... Then, he maybe noticed the data on the UofM site, and recognized that it was the same as the blob data.
at 19:52 on August 16th, 2012
If you had any interest in ending "gang stalking" you would record the crime in progress with a covert video recorder. This will document the stalking as well as the person doing it.
The solution is simple. Why do you not want to pursue it?
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anonymously anonymous (not verified)at 10:03 on July 10th, 2012
????? Makes no sense.
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anonymously anonymous (not verified)at 10:05 on July 10th, 2012
To Faithless Templar: ????? Your comment doesn't make sense.
at 11:01 on July 10th, 2012
Geez sounds like Howdy Doody's guide to teh interwebz.
Accepting your explanation takes the knowledge of an idiot.
Do IP addresses change after disconnecting?I was wondering if IP Addresses change if you lose your connection, i.e. needing to reboot router or just simply having no connection for a period of time (due to ISP problems maybe). OR if it even changes for no reason?
I'm asking this as I have an IP Tracker on my website that I look at every now and then. I've noticed about one IP visiting my site quite regularly, and it's the only one from its country that has ever viewed my site.
There is now a new IP from the same country with same 'viewing patterns' as the previous, but has a different hostname from the first. I was wondering if it could be the same viewer.
Best Answer - Chosen by AskerYes, no and maybe.
There are a limited number of IP addresses. Each ISP has to lease the ones they use. Because not everyone is using their computer at any given moment, so ISP's will have fewer addresses then they do customers and will assign you a new IP each time you log on. For those people, the address will change.
Other ISPs will give you a permanent IP address which does not (normally) change. However that IP is linked to a hardware address. If you were to change your modem, router, network card or get a new computer, that could cause your IP address to change.
Also most IPS's assign you an IP for a certain number of days (usually 5-7). If during that time you do not use the address, it will be taken and put back into the pool for the next person who needs one and you will get a new address next time you log in. These keeps addresses from being abandoned.
There are also ways that you cahnge your own IP address (or ask yout IPS to do it.) This may happen if your computer is hacked or you are having other issues with the current address.
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one of the good guys (not verified)at 11:30 on July 10th, 2012
Much ado about nothing, batty. (Too much time on your dirty hands?)
at 05:25 on July 16th, 2012
EXPLAIN THESE STATEMENTS "BATVETTE":
Batvette at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ
at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk
Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR
at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFn2867
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at 05:07 on July 20th, 2012
YOU MEAN LIKE THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC'S PERCEPTIONS OF REALITY?
BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ
at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk
Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR
at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFn2867
These were the tags you chose:
USA, California, San Diego, Surveillance, CIA, United States, 2012, World, DOJ, fascism, DHS, Big Brother, America, NSA, 1984, redneck, War on Terrorism, TI, manifesto, new world order, mkultra, neighborhood watch, dew, COINTELPRO, directed energy weapons, Community Policing, gangstalking, organized stalking, cause stalking, batvette,undesirables, JNLWP, ultrasonics, fourth reich
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIGabQS0
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at 09:13 on September 27th, 2012
BATVETTE,
PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOU WERE CURED OF THE FOLLOWING DELUSIONS THAT YOU RECENTLY SCRUBBED FROM NP:
at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ
at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk
Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
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at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
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commenting anonymously (not verified)at 08:54 on July 10th, 2012
Another excellent article, PeaceFrog. Thanks. (Not to distract, but what follows in an interesting, must-see, June 9 interview with Thomas Drake on RT yesterday:....."What you're seeing is the establishment of a surveillance society. ... It raises the specter of the rise of soft tyranny. ... What happens if they don't like you? What happens if you speak ill will against the government? What if you say something that they consider disloyal? ... And you also have the fear element. Fear in itself is control." ---Thomas Drake, NSA Whistleblower ....... www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMy2ZbPkyvw&feature=player_embedded )
at 11:36 on July 10th, 2012
You know I'm beginning to believe, with the audacity of the intellectual dishonesty going on here, there must be a "parody" or "comedy" category on NowPublic I've missed.
We've got Blandra engaging in the same meat/sock puppet activity as practiced all over the site here, defending Peacefrog against the charge of using sock/meat puppets.
We've got the author implying he was wrongfully blocked for edit warring, while he provides a link which easily proves he was doing that exactly...
And we've got this gem:
This response was followed by two Wikipedia "editors" posts that basically stated that the use of "gang stalking" implied conspiracy theories, and, "sensationalist" tabloid-style news. This is contradicted by the fact that both FOX-syndicated news stories were mainstream, and, were both supported by police statement confirmation in both California and Texas.
Make sure you remembered that line, stated by the author of these recent Now Public articles:
Gang Stalkers on Former VP Candidate John Edward's Jury Trial?
Informant Tape Proves FBI Blew Up the World Trade Center in 1993
Proof that the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing was an Inside Job
Gang Stalking:Citizen Internment & "Political Re-Education" Camps
Gang Stalking: Nightstalkers Over America
Gang Stalking: Captain of Neighborhood Watch Program Murders Teen
Comedy relief, no doubt.
at 04:54 on July 11th, 2012
Batvette writes,
You know I'm beginning to believe, with the audacity of the intellectual dishonesty going on here
More like, the audacity of someone whose agenda is to conceal a fascist social movement pretending to be a victim while discrediting victims and their life stories. HYPOCRITE!
at 09:07 on July 10th, 2012
Based on my reporting and empirical experience, I would have to say that it is more likely that the Lockheed Martin/USG real-time censorship regime, which I have exposed in a series of articles, is the censoring entity -- since Lockheed Martin, nationwide, runs a draconian real-time telecommunications/internet censorship regime and is the logistical arm of community "policing"/neighborhood watch/black ops gangstalking. Lockheed also administers the DEW electromagnetic assaults via its operational command and control of the nationwide cellular torture tower radio frequency weapons gird, also exposed by this veteran mainstream journalist:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-internet-political-speech-fraud-deception
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2011/12/u.html
http://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2012/01/thugocracy-u.html
PS -- I am not posting active links, because each time I do, malicious HTML code is embedded in these pages to sabotage those links.
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another good guy (not verified)at 11:38 on July 10th, 2012
Batvette should stuff a sock in it. (Pun intended.) No wonder victims of GS are getting nowhere fast.
at 12:29 on July 10th, 2012
I can't count the number of issues relevant to the article content I have directly raised here, yet you refute none of them and attack me from behind now a fourth pseudonym.
But you're blaming me for why "GS victims are getting nowhere fast"?
That's interesting, since Peacefrog said:
Then why don't YOU stop crying like a b i t c h and tell everybody what is going on. I may not know the whole story, but I've sure brought more to the conversation than YOU (which is ZERO, ZIP, NADA)
You contribute nothing by way of research or reasoned analysis of gang stalking.
You do not even work on your own material,
According to Peacefrog he's been a one man wrecking crew for the cause of "gang stalking" and I've contributed nothing.
Now it's all my fault, right?
No I think it's more like actual targets of whatever program may be going on have been permanently discredited by the term "gang stalking" and all the stupid conspiracy theory bull s h i t and absurd non-tactics proliferated across the internet by morons like Peacefrog.
As for "victims of GS" it's insane to believe anyone who has never once described how a crime has happened to them actually is a victim of it. Every bit of rhetoric spoken by yourself and/or Peacefrog speaks of "gang stalking victims" solely in the third person. Why is that?
at 12:38 on July 10th, 2012
Ratvette,
Whine all you want, people are not that stupid. What you have taken off Wikipedia, through your instigation, is the best evidence TI's have for gang stalking. You are a fraud, a liar, and a hypocrite. You have no redeeming value as a human being. You are one of the monsters.
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Elizabeth Blandra (not verified)at 13:13 on July 10th, 2012
I couldn't have said it better myself, PeaceFrog. You've done harm to TIs by your recent actions on Wikipedia, batvette. You may have won this battle, but you're not going to win the war. We are.
at 16:06 on July 10th, 2012
You keep trying to change the subject to direct this at my person, my points have been established in the very first post and never refuted by you.
I wanted this entry removed from Wikiipedia because it is more of your DISINFORMATION which becomes a liability to any TI who promotes it to anyone in any position to affect them positively.
It's only "proof" to the stupid who just glance at it.
You avoid any discussion of WHY it was disinformation either at Wiki OR here. And now it appears that you selectively with held information provided to you by the DOJ to forward your lies.
You refuse to address that as well.
The only TI's who could possibly take your side after a thorough examination of these arguments are fools or pretenders like you. Which is why 90% of the posts here are from Blandra.
You guys have fun, I'll be at wiki where your standard MO gets you blocked but quick, every time.
Keith Labella, Atty' at Law. "I learned all I know from an episode of Matlock that was on in a bar. The sound was turned down, but I got the gist of it."
at 17:31 on July 10th, 2012
NO GANG STALKING VICTIM WOULD EVER HAVE INSTIGATED WIKIPEDIA'S REMOVAL OF THE TERM GANG STALKING AND THE TWO REFERENCED FOX NEWS ARTICLES FROM THE STALKING PAGE.
YOU ARE A PHONY AND A HYPOCRITE BASED ON COMMON SENSE. NO ONE NEEDS A DEGREE TO SEE THROUGH YOUR BULLSHYTE.
at 22:23 on July 10th, 2012
This would hold that what you've taken it upon yourself to define as a "gang stalking victim" by stealing the testimonies of other nutters' websites (such as this poor soul: http://www.theintrovertspeaks.com/ whose "harassment" appears to amount to seeing red cars and T shirts, and a few neighbors with an "anchor" object, in her case a lawn mower appearing of all places, on a lawn) believes the mere appearance of the term "gang stalking" on a page at wiki is real progress.
Never mind its reference being fraudulent and a liability or that its presence only serves to remind its detractors how crazy those who mention it really are.
You've only raised more red flags about the nutter faction in the community having an agenda of "putting out the word" that gang stalking is real, has a sole purpose of making the mentally ill look crazy, and establish each other's bizarre observations as legitimate but never your own. That's because nothing really happens to you and you know it. Your goal is sheer protection of vanity, relating your own experience is a liability against that and the more you can get to join you the more sane you will appear.
This is why you've made all the conflicting claims about who is responsible, it's all a wide net of nonsense but allows the greatest recruitment tool to convince others with irrational paranoia of their own. One day it's the mob, another the FBI, the next, it's the mob AND the FBI, the day after it's Satanic Cults. By the end of the week add Jews, Italians, and drop a hint about the KKK and you've included all the personal fears of dozens of potential friends to slap you on the ass and reinforce your own stupid misconceptions.
All the while attacking people who might be real targets who expose the lunacy inherent to these statements, not caring what you may do to their situation but more concerned that if they affected real progress the illusion you've adopted for yourself to hide in might end.
Then again I could always be completely wrong about everything-maybe you're just put up to play this all too obvious role. I couldn't know and the effect would be the same.
Have a nice evening. Counting sheep... or demons in red shirts.
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could be anyone (not verified)at 06:22 on July 11th, 2012
Batvette takes on Bonnie Calcagno of theintrovertspeaks / nostasi.com. He's on his stated mission "to discredit" and call out victims as "nutters."
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Batvette is a shrink? (not verified)at 05:48 on July 12th, 2012
LOL. Gee, I didn't know that batvette is a psychiatrist or psychologist. And golly, unless he's been hiding something from us, guess what? He isn't. So for him to decide who is and isn't "a nutter" is just plain "nutty."
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posted anonymously (not verified)at 13:22 on July 10th, 2012
BATVETTE WROTE: "As for "victims of GS" it's insane to believe anyone who has never once described how a crime has happened to them actually is a victim of it. Every bit of rhetoric spoken by yourself and/or Peacefrog speaks of "gang stalking victims" solely in the third person. Why is that?"-----> Let's refresh your short memory, ratvette. =======Batvette's comment to the article "How Widespread is Gang Stalking?" (by PeaceFrog) --- nowpublic.com/world/how-widespread-gang-stalking-----------------------------------Batvette wrote at 04:22 on November 15th, 2011--I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be.--Where is yours?--------( Batvette is here to discredit. Batvette has an agenda. Readers have a right to know.)
at 16:18 on July 10th, 2012
I make no apologies for discrediting pretenders who offer disinformation to real targets of a program being obscured by the parody of it called "gang stalking".
You're a pretender and so is Peacefrog. If you weren't you'd discuss what you experience. Neither of you EVER have and we can document Peacefrog's bullshyte for years.
Funny you've been proven to be a Peacefrog sock account by wiki and here you will post "I have an agenda to discredit one life story at a time"(I never said VICTIMS, you add that often to imply I did) then Peacefrog will come along and post my life story attempting to use it to discredit me.
Can you show me a single instance of a TI (besides Scrivener) coming into a NowPublic article, offering a "life story" and me trying to discredit him with it?
Of COURSE you can't yet Peacefrog has done it to me in the hundreds of times now. You're only impressing the stupid.
Peacefrog's Disinformation Machine has been revealed and is established on the internet now, any intelligent target can sift through the noise and while they may not agree with my tactics or manners they will easily see HIS lies and disinformation for what it is.
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observing here (not verified)at 13:28 on July 10th, 2012
Try to stay calm, ratvette... regarding your comment at 12:29 on July 10th, 2012. Don't go getting yourself all worked up now. Deep breaths... Deep breaths...
at 18:05 on July 10th, 2012
From this articles commentary and further comments section, I'm not exactly sure what the current overall status is for PeaceFrog on Wikipedia.
Since I'm not familiar with Wikipedia politics, procedures, or edits, my only other thought deals with PeaceFrog maybe forgetting about posting directly to the 'Stalking' topic on Wikipedia. To maybe find out if Wikipedia would allow PeaceFrog to start a 'Gangstalking' topic (or something like 'Highly Organized Group Physical and Psychological Stalking') page on Wikipedia; { that individuals who are interested in the 'Stalking' topic on Wikipedia, could also be directed to from the 'Stalking' page (through possibly some reference link) to a 'Gangstalking' or 'Highly Organized Group Physical and Psychological Stalking' reference topic page.}
It sounds like the problem PeaceFrog is running into on Wikipedia is that gangstalking isn't perceived as being the same as stalking or stalking by proxy. That because of the systematic, logistic, systemic, and terminology differences (among other differences) is causing PeaceFrog attempted edits on Wikipedia to cause confusion with simple stalking or proxy stalking.
I'd also suggest any professionals knowledgeable in this subject and 'gangstalking' activities, to post related articles on news friendly sites like the examiner.com, Topix.com, Alex Jones sites InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and if possible get on Alex Jones radio talk show to begin outing these activities over the airwaves.
Last is to find possible news friendly journalist like Glenn Greenwald who maybe interested in getting out information about 'gangstalking' activities on credible media outlets.
Glenn Greenwald (email: GGreenwald@salon.com) is an American lawyer, columnist, blogger, and author. Greenwald worked as a constitutional and civil rights litigator before becoming a contributor to Salon.com, where he focuses on political and legal topics.
Glenn Greenwald is the author of three New York Times Bestselling books: two on the Bush administration's executive power and foreign policy abuses, and his latest book, With Liberty and Justice for Some, an indictment of America's two-tiered system of justice. Greenwald was named by The Atlantic as one of the 25 most influential political commentators in the nation. He is the recipient of the first annual I.F. Stone Award for Independent Journalism, and is the winner of the 2010 Online Journalism Association Award for his investigative work on the arrest and oppressive detention of Bradley Manning.
Of interest:
Law Enforcement Agencies Demanded Cell Phone User Info Far More Than 1.3 Million Times Last Year
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at 21:25 on July 10th, 2012
The whole term "gang stalking" is completely toxic for targets of whatever program is going on, look at the talk page for Stalking and see the discussions that are linked on it to "articles for deletion: Gang Stalking".
TI's and nutters who think they are TIs flood wiki every time someone's ever tried to establish such an article, have no knowledge of wiki decorum and generally flood the polls and consensus process looking like nutters trying to push a highly POV agenda considered conspiracy theory.
Wiki hates conspiracy theory largely for that reason, no matter what the conspiracy people come out of the woodwork and vandalize pages with their personal agenda and then complain their own oafishness is the fault of wiki being part of the conspiracy.
Peacefrog's done this twice now, albeit not as silly as I've seen some do it. You just cannot walk in out of nowhere, defy consensus of experienced editors (some of whom have admin authority) and start violating wiki's most basic rules.
In this case I followed every protocol with prudence before I touched the article, created a thread on the talk page, stating my intent, asked for comment, and Blandra and Peacefrog knew about this weeks ago. I removed the content and referenced the talk page, it was reverted by an unregistered account, I reverted that and asked for this person to discuss it on the talk page. Then Blandra comes along and edits it again also ignoring the discussion-even that first edit was thus out of line. She was admonished by a senior editor, then Peacefrog comes in and violates the 3RR policy and they find out he's got some association with Blandra-
Now whose fault is is wiki has a problem with content about gang stalking when this is the standard MO of people pushing it there? It's like going to traffic court smelling like booze, cussing out the judge and peeing on his bench then blaming the system you got a harsh penalty.
And on top of it all this is also the second time after his "ugly American" performance he comes here and blames wiki for being part of the conspiracy. And denied gang stalking is the stuff of conspiracy theories and sensationalist journalism when his own articles are rife with stuff about the OKC bombing, Shia Lebouf and Susan Sarandon being targets....
All the while back here insisting I'm full of s h i t about him and Blandras's puppet show when that's the whole of their activities.
JeremyStalked and I were coming close to getting a gang stalking article pushed through last year but I'm afraid due to his interest on vaguely related articles he ended up in their bad grace before it took off. He was doing more on it than I as he has better personal discipline but at this point I'd say it will be a cold day in hell before that term gets serious treatment there and I must say I'm with them. "Gang Stalking" has been seized by the mentally ill and until that cozy little relationship ends it will be the doom of legitimate targets seeking relief, answers or action for their problems.
The disinformation they have established in the community only serves to mire real targets in the muck with them.
Moreover, wiki's editors and admin are largely right about the content that's been pushed before and the people who vandalized articles with it. I see it from their point of view which is similar to the public's. Gaining their ear and sympathy requires you recognize it from their POV, not running off to publish rants that they are part of the conspiracy for not tolerating your own childish behavior.
at 04:50 on July 11th, 2012
APPARENTLY BATVETTE WAS FORMERLY ONE OF THE GANG STALKING CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. CARE TO EXPLAIN YOU RAT PIECE OF GARBAGE?
These are YOUR WORDS BATVETTE NOT MINE:
at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009
I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")
You know they love me for that one.
at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?
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at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009
Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.
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Batvette, (August 16, 2009)
This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.
You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.
If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?
Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.
That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.
Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.
Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.
You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.
And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.
I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N
Do you remember any of your own statements?:
at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009
n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!
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at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009
I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.
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at 20:49 on July 10th, 2012
Well I think we can consider that to be the last of peacefrogs credibility swirling away down the sinkhole. He had a tantrum about being accused of something, denied it vehemently, was challenged and shown to be a liar, admitted that the accusation was true and all this 'proves' he is the victim. You are mentally unbalanced mate.
Oh and to the sock puppet, what the hell? You have nothing to do but shadow everyones posts whining that they are pathetic? LOL.