Gang Stalking: Wikipedia's Agent Provocateurs & Cyber trolls

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by PeaceFrog | July 10, 2012 at 07:57 am
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     Wikipedia scrubbed the information that this author added to its stalking page. This included deleting a reference to gang stalking under the Stalking by Groups subsection. It also included scrubbing two FOX-syndicated news stories on gang stalking. The first story scrubbed was the KION interview with Santa Cruz P.D. Lieutenant Larry Richard on the subject of "gang stalking" by groups. The second story scrubbed was the KENS-5 San Antonio investigative journalist piece confirming multiple open felony investigations related to gang stalking by groups by both the local San Antonio police and the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. This information had been on the Wikkipedia Stalking page since December, 2011. The scrubbing was instigated by government agent provocateur "Batvette" using the same moniker on Wikipedia as on NowPublic.

     When this author attempted to reinstate the two FOX news stories, other Wikipedia "editors" sprang into action, and, retaliated by removing this author's links to official Department of Justice documents he obtained under the F.O.I.A., about stalking by groups that were working together as teams. These F.O.I.A. documents were tenured on the Wikipedia Stalking page for over ONE YEAR.

     This is the Wikipedia Stalking article before the censorship occurred: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stalking&diff=prev&oldid=501435716#Stalking_by_groups

      This is the current Wikipedia page after the scrubbing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking#Stalking_by_groups

      Here is the Wikipedia talk page on gang stalking explaining the "rationale" behind the scrubbing redaction "edits":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AStalking#US_DOJ_report_on_Stalking_Victimization_in_the_US.2F_implied_to_indicate_.22gang_stalking.22

      In order to follow the rest of the discussion, please read the subsection "US DOJ Report on Stalking Victimization in the US / implied to indicate "gang stalking"" linked above.

     The first paragraph comes to the bogus conclusion that because stalking by groups is not referred to specifically as "gang stalking" in the DOJ stalking materials, the use of the term "gang stalking" in the above-referenced FOX news pieces makes the activity of "gang stalking" different than "stalking by groups". This is purely a semantic and cosmetic difference that would be quickly understood by any "editor" at Wikipedia who was neither a government agent provocateur, nor lobotomized. 

     The second paragraph in the link above, as well as, Batvette's talk page on Wikipedia "deletion review for gang stalking" subsection, linked below, make it clear that government agent provocateur Batvette (the same government agent provocateur Batvette on NowPublic) initiated the deletion of the two FOX news stories on gang stalking from the Wikipedia Stalking page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Batvette#Deletion_review_for_Gang_Stalking

      The two news stories were the most probative evidence of nationwide gang stalking to date. One was the only interview with an active duty police officer to publicly speak about gang stalking. The other news story was the only reference to multiple, open felony investigations relating to gang stalking. 

      Here was the author's response, from the Wikipedia Stalking talk page, to Batvette's perfidious action in deleting the news stories:

User Batvette is making a false distinction between "stalking by groups" and "gang stalking". Gang stalking is simply a different terminology for stalking by groups. The Stalking Report indicates substantial group stalking in America. The FOIA documents referenced in the section on Stalking by Groups indicate 185,050 cases of "group stalking" a.k.a. "gang stalking", i.e., stalking by teams or groups acting in concert. These same FOIA documents enumerate the 185,050 cases into cases of between "3" to "50" stalkers, listing a total for each category of between "3" and "50" stalkers. The "gang stalking" news stories are in fact news stories of stalking by groups. These two stories are both mainstream FOX-syndicated T.V. news stories. Gang stalking by groups of stalkers is affirmed by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz P.D. in the first story. The second story is an investigative journalist piece confirming multiple, open police investigations of multiple felony crimes in San Antonio related to gang stalking by groups of stalkers.

     This response was followed by two Wikipedia "editors" posts that basically stated that the use of "gang stalking" implied conspiracy theories, and, "sensationalist" tabloid-style news. This is contradicted by the fact that both FOX-syndicated news stories were mainstream, and, were both supported by police statement confirmation in both California and Texas. Also, eluding the "editors" is the fact that stalking performed by groups necessitates the underlying crime of conspiracy!

     The author replied by stressing the solid content of the relevant and highly probative news stories deleted:

Two mainstream news stories have been redacted because of semantics, to wit, the use of the term "gang stalking". These include a public statement by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz on "gang stalking" by groups. Also included is an investigative journalist news story from San Antonio finding multiple, open felony cases related to "gang stalking" by groups by both local San Antonio police, and, the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. These are both FOX-syndicated news stories. The content being scrubbed is probative, factual in nature and relevant, and, is far from being "sensationalist" or tabloid news. The fact that vast conspiracy theories are affiliated with gang stalking is irrelevant to the value of these two factually-based news stories. There are many academic topics that are mired in conspiracy from the moon landing to the J.F.K. assassination. The litmus test should be the quality and content of the materials redacted, not the conspiracy label.PeaceFrog71 (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Both articles are mainstream media news stories and contain information derived from law enforcement officials. There has been no impeachment of the content of the stories. Batvette's argument that the stories are the residue of "sensationalist" claims is irrelevant. Nothing has been adduced to impeach the credibility of the two news stories citing law enforcement concerns and investigations in both California and Texas. The entire rationale behind the redaction is the use of the term "gang stalking" in both news stories. This term has been adopted for activities of reported group stalking by some law enforcement officials. The redaction based upon the terminology "gang stalking", of otherwise highly probative material on group stalking, is cosmetic and semantic. Suggestion:

Some commentators have used the controversial term "gang stalking" to refer to reported cases of stalking by groups. [ft] PeaceFrog71(talk) 14:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

     True to form, the control freak editors have barred this author from even arguing his case further on the Stalking talk page, claiming he is guilty of "edit warring".

     Here is what Wired.com has to say about the politics of Wikipedia "editing":

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker?currentPage=all

WELCOME TO CYBER 1984


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at 11:39 on August 8th, 2012

Batvette wrote at 04:22 on November 15th, 2011--I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be.--Where is yours? -  Batvette's comment to the article "How Widespread is Gang Stalking?"  on  nowpublic.com/world/how-widespread-gang-stalking, page 3   "Batvette is here to discredit.  Batvette has an agenda.  Readers have a right to know."  (from a prior comment to this article) 

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he-dead-jim (not verified)

at 19:00 on August 11th, 2012

this new batvette imposter is rlly pssing me off. why did the perps wipe out the original batvette and replace it with this new batvette poser.

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at 12:35 on August 8th, 2012

www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/biggest-new-spying-program-youve-probably-never-heard

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at 09:41 on August 11th, 2012

I think Peacefrog should set up his own website, and link to it from here.  Then, people wanting to see his articles and comments, but without all of the troll-spam, could do so.  Of course, his site, being small - would very likely quickly be shut down by the internet corp.  Oh well - never mind.  I know about the SASS software, and how expensive it is.  About ten years ago, I tried to buy a copy, but was given a price of around $5,000 for the cheapest thing they had.  Maybe what Peacefrog is saying, is that he found some other tool - perhaps a hex editor or something like that - and used it to poke around in the data files.   The result would have been a little jumbled, but he could probably have extracted some information from the partially packed data blob ...  Then, he maybe could have noticed the data on the UofM site, and recognize that it was the same as the blob data.

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anonymous commenter
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at 14:37 on August 11th, 2012

The result would have been a little jumbled, but he could probably have extracted some information from the partially packed data blob ...  Then, he maybe could have noticed the data on the UofM site, and recognize that it was the same as the blob data.  -from the previous comment   If so, perhaps you would provide data on fraternities/sororities, as well as the other selections about which some have expressed concern.

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'A Coup Has Occurred'
'A Coup Has Occurred' (not verified)

at 05:03 on August 17th, 2012

www.consortiumnews.com/2007/092607a.html  " 'A Coup Has Occurred'  By Daniel Ellsberg  September 26, 2007 (Text of a speech delivered September 20, 2007)  Editor’s Note: Daniel Ellsberg, the former Defense Department analyst who leaked the secret Pentagon Papers history of the Vietnam War, offered insights into the looming war with Iran and the loss of liberty in the United States at an American University symposium on Sept. 20.  Below is an edited transcript of Ellsberg’s remarkable speech:  I think nothing has higher priority than averting an attack on Iran, which I think will be accompanied by a further change in our way of governing here that in effect will convert us into what I would call a police state.  If there’s another 9/11 under this regime … it means that they switch on full extent all the apparatus of a police state that has been patiently constructed, largely secretly at first but eventually leaked out and known and accepted by the Democratic people in Congress, by the Republicans and so forth."

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batvette

at 11:57 on August 17th, 2012

More noise. 

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'A Coup Has Occurred'
'A Coup Has Occurred' (not verified)

at 12:51 on August 17th, 2012

www.consortiumnews.com/2007/092607a.html  " 'A Coup Has Occurred'  By Daniel Ellsberg  September 26, 2007 (Text of a speech delivered September 20, 2007)  Editor’s Note: Daniel Ellsberg, the former Defense Department analyst who leaked the secret Pentagon Papers history of the Vietnam War, offered insights into the looming war with Iran and the loss of liberty in the United States at an American University symposium on Sept. 20.  Below is an edited transcript of Ellsberg’s remarkable speech:  I think nothing has higher priority than averting an attack on Iran, which I think will be accompanied by a further change in our way of governing here that in effect will convert us into what I would call a police state.  If there’s another 9/11 under this regime … it means that they switch on full extent all the apparatus of a police state that has been patiently constructed, largely secretly at first but eventually leaked out and known and accepted by the Democratic people in Congress, by the Republicans and so forth."   (...continues - see link above)

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PeaceFrog
PeaceFrog

at 09:14 on September 27th, 2012

BATVETTE,

     PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOU WERE CURED OF THE FOLLOWING DELUSIONS THAT YOU RECENTLY SCRUBBED FROM NP:


at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009

I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking  today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if  you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")

You know they love me for that one.

at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ

at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009


Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk

Batvette, (August 16, 2009)

 This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.

You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.


If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down...  what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?


Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.


That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite-  you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong.  You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people.  You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.


Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others.   A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch.  It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.


Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life-  otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.  


You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day.  I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.


And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.


I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration...    or the lobotomy?



http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N



Do you remember any of your own statements?:

at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009

n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I  did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR

at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009

I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything:  If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me?  Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.

 



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