Gang Stalking: Wikipedia's Agent Provocateurs & Cyber trolls

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Here's the real batvette.  He's abusive.  This is how he responds to one of the commenters to his article:   "Besides how could I have called YOU anything, which cowardly anonymous useless piece of s h i t  troll posting as "anonymous" are you? It's like I'm having a discussion with a pile of bricks here stacked up to look like one brick and one brick will ask me if I know which brick he is." (Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gang Stalking: The intentional myth and likely reality. | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 21 www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-intentional-myth-and-likely-reality#ixzz20IjGkzVA)   

Batvette's agenda when he initially updated the talk page on Wiki was not to have "a discussion."  His goal was to remove the comment and references regarding gang stalking, victims be damned.  Batvette does what batvette wants.  As PeaceFrog said, he's an instigator.  He says that he and Jeremy tried to get something posted to Wiki, but couldn't. So someone else was able to get something credible posted -- something that stuck.  So what did batvette do?   He took it down.  That's the way he works.  He's a one-man show, with his own agenda.  The rat's a pig.

"Some commentators have used the controversial term "gang stalking" to refer to reported cases of stalking by groups. [ft] PeaceFrog71(talk) 14:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)"  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  A good suggestion, but not even worth a comment on Wiki's talk page. 

There are only two possibilities here.  Either batvette is an incredibly stupid victim or he's a perp.  He presents himself as a paragon of virtue and diplomacy on Wikipedia and then says the following to someone commenting on one of his articles here on NP.  The real batvette shines through...:  " "Besides how could I have called YOU anything, which cowardly anonymous useless piece of s h i t  troll posting as "anonymous" are you? It's like I'm having a discussion with a pile of bricks here stacked up to look like one brick and one brick will ask me if I know which brick he is."

Batvette wrote at 04:22 on November 15th, 2011--"I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be.--Where is yours?"------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------( Batvette is here to discredit.  Batvette has an agenda.  Readers have a right to know.  Batvette's comment was posted to the article "How Widespread is Gang Stalking?"  (by PeaceFrog) --- nowpublic.com/world/how-widespread-gang-stalking

Could you please include the two, notable links in your article?  (The KENS-5 and Santa Cruz report, including Larry Richards' exact words?)

Gotta love the GS techniques used by the Peacefrog sock-puppets as they spam-post the same nonsense and personal attack but, actually bring zero to the discussion. This channel is a fraudsters haunt filled with liars and posers under the Peacefrog banner of speaking for Ti's. Peacefrog needs to change his handle to Leapingfraud.

To "toxic spammers":  Kettle?  Meet pot.  Whatever it takes, right?  (Folks like you will do and say anything to keep this story quiet. And folks like us, will do what it takes to get GS exposed.  It's gonna see light.  Count on it.)

Anyone who participates in GS (in any capacity, from the top down) has blood on their hands, as someone other poster noted.  And those who try to keep this story down, because they're so damn worried about being associated with the "mentally ill" are culpable, as well.)

GS is a process that is designed to make people appear, and act, "unbalanced" or mentally ill.  When victims report what they see and experience, they're labelled "nuts."  It seems to me that there are three groups here:  1) Some victims may have already been a little (or a lot) crazy, perhaps; 2) some were all right, but were pushed in the direction of "crazy"; and 3) some have simply been targeted to appear crazy.  Those running this program clearly want others to believe that all of these folks are crazy -- they want these three groups of individuals to be thought of as true "paranoid schizophrenics", but most of them aren't.   Many targets are correctly reporting exactly what they've seen and/or experienced, but are called "crazy" anyway.   The program was designed to marginalize and eliminate people.  Those running it are very good at what they do.  They're also a bunch of crazy, sadistic bastards.  For now, they've successfully buried GS in the world of mental illness.  As it's been said before, mental illness effectively provides the cover for this sadistic program.  It's architects and participants be damned.  May they rot in hell, if there is one. 

It's funny how this discussion always seems to center around whether PeaceFrog or Batvette has it right or wrong about what is 'gangstalking'..

I found Batvette excellent reply at 22:25 on July 10th, 2012 both indepth and very well thought out to the apparent complexities of dealing with posting or editing information on Wikipedia. I began to see and understand the political and logistical reasons why PeaceFrog was having problems with that site (Wikipedia). Separately I do respect Wikipedia original founders Wales and Sanger efforts and philosophical ideal's. Wikipedia obviously has developed, for whatever reasons, their own culture for posting and editing on their site. It is a shame that PeaceFrog's information had to be removed though.

That said, I will say that this discussion of understanding and defining what specific victims commonly refer to as 'gangstalking' could easily be misinterpreted or misunderstood by many who know little or nothing about these specific stalking activities or methods.

From reading and reflecting on Batvette's own experiences of being a stalking victim, and not minimizing or belittling those experiences in anyway, it's become obvious to me that Batvettes experiences as a stalking victim is not from gangstalking methods, but probably by stalking by proxy or proximity stalking activities. This is not what PeaceFrog, myself, or some other posters are referring to as 'gangstalking' activities. Nor what PeaceFrog is or has been specifically referring to and discussing in his articles or his legal efforts and comments.

In my opinion, the fact that Batvette has never seen or experienced what is commonly referred to by victims of 'gangstalking' as multiple 'street theater' tactics; nor understands or has experienced the multiple day to day tactics and repetitive psychological methods used by groups of stalking perpetrators on victims; and also that it occurs almost constantly everywhere you go 24/7/365; explains why Batvette has taken a position that is highly skeptical of these described 'gangstalking' activities as not being real or must be false or is being imagined by victims.

Batvette must begin realizing that this highly organized psychological method, group or 'gang' stalking being discussed here by PeaceFrog, myself and others, isn't what he himself experienced, and is specifically the reason he may not fully understand what is being discussed or referred to as 'gangstalking' methods and activities.

I would suggest that Batvette step back and realize that something else is actually being discussed here that he himself hasn't experienced or come to fully realize.

 That what is being referred to by some stalking victims as 'gangstalking', is a much larger and highly organized stalking phenomenon that is being reported happening in many locations across America. Incorporating tactics and methods very similar to what PeaceFrog has been suggesting as cointelpro methods. That as PeaceFrog has suggests is a method the FBI repeatedly has used in the past. It is also and probably the main reason PeaceFrog suggest that possibility the FBI may be behind this seemingly massive run government program. That once you have experienced this what seems to be, a very well funded, highly organized, systematically run, many multiple individuals and government agencies involved, stalking, harassment, surveillance, torment, psychological torture method apparatus being directed at you over and over again, that it becomes clear this involves much more than what is being referred to as 'stalking' or 'stalking by proxy' victims.

In closing, I would suggest that many 'gangstalking' victims accounts of what is happening to them, and similarities of what's being suggested by them specifically, isn't by accident or some conspiracy. That the victims of these 'gangstalking' activities and methods, after repeated exposure, it becomes (intentionally) obvious to them that it is not being imagined or made up by them. That you specifically Batvette, because of your attention to absolute detail, methods and specifics, would of had no problem identifying with or relating to gangstalking victims accounts if you had indeed been exposed to gangstalking methods and tactics yourself. Also the term 'gangstalking' would have become a much more obvious and clearly understood term to use in describing these activities if you had.

It's obvious to most gangstalked victims that something this massive in scope and logistics, not being openly identified or acknowledged by police or any local, county, state, or federal agency law enforcement could indeed be a government run program_obviously not being referred to as gangstalking by them. Possibly under some other covert government name. I definitely suspect this is possibly under some even larger domestic surveillance anti-terrorism apparatus and activist legislated government program. As many of the stalking activities seem to also have specific law enforcement involvement and oversite. That the precision and systematic level that these activities are carried out at could not be possible without systemic government involvement.