Gang Stalking: Wikipedia's Agent Provocateurs & Cyber trolls

by PeaceFrog | July 10, 2012 at 07:57 am

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Wikipedia scrubbed the information that this author added to its stalking page. This included deleting a reference to gang stalking under the Stalking by Groups subsection. It also included scrubbing two FOX-syndicated news stories on gang stalking. The first story scrubbed was the KION interview with Santa Cruz P.D. Lieutenant Larry Richard on the subject of "gang stalking" by groups. The second story scrubbed was the KENS-5 San Antonio investigative journalist piece confirming multiple open felony investigations related to gang stalking by groups by both the local San Antonio police and the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. This information had been on the Wikkipedia Stalking page since December, 2011. The scrubbing was instigated by government agent provocateur "Batvette" using the same moniker on Wikipedia as on NowPublic.

When this author attempted to reinstate the two FOX news stories, other Wikipedia "editors" sprang into action, and, retaliated by removing this author's links to official Department of Justice documents he obtained under the F.O.I.A., about stalking by groups that were working together as teams. These F.O.I.A. documents were tenured on the Wikipedia Stalking page for over ONE YEAR.

This is the Wikipedia Stalking article before the censorship occurred:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stalking&diff=prev&oldid=501435716#Stalking_by_groups

This is the current Wikipedia page after the scrubbing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking#Stalking_by_groups

Here is the Wikipedia talk page on gang stalking explaining the "rationale" behind the scrubbing redaction "edits":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AStalking#US_DOJ_report_on_Stalking_Victimization_in_the_US.2F_implied_to_indicate_.22gang_stalking.22

In order to follow the rest of the discussion, please read the subsection "US DOJ Report on Stalking Victimization in the US / implied to indicate "gang stalking"" linked above.

The first paragraph comes to the bogus conclusion that because stalking by groups is not referred to specifically as "gang stalking" in the DOJ stalking materials, the use of the term "gang stalking" in the above-referenced FOX news pieces makes the activity of "gang stalking" different than "stalking by groups". This is purely a semantic and cosmetic difference that would be quickly understood by any "editor" at Wikipedia who was neither a government agent provocateur, nor lobotomized.

The second paragraph in the link above, as well as, Batvette's talk page on Wikipedia "deletion review for gang stalking" subsection, linked below, make it clear that government agent provocateur Batvette (the same government agent provocateur Batvette on NowPublic) initiated the deletion of the two FOX news stories on gang stalking from the Wikipedia Stalking page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Batvette#Deletion_review_for_Gang_Stalking

The two news stories were the most probative evidence of nationwide gang stalking to date. One was the only interview with an active duty police officer to publicly speak about gang stalking. The other news story was the only reference to multiple, open felony investigations relating to gang stalking.

Here was the author's response, from the Wikipedia Stalking talk page, to Batvette's perfidious action in deleting the news stories:

User Batvette is making a false distinction between "stalking by groups" and "gang stalking". Gang stalking is simply a different terminology for stalking by groups. The Stalking Report indicates substantial group stalking in America. The FOIA documents referenced in the section on Stalking by Groups indicate 185,050 cases of "group stalking" a.k.a. "gang stalking", i.e., stalking by teams or groups acting in concert. These same FOIA documents enumerate the 185,050 cases into cases of between "3" to "50" stalkers, listing a total for each category of between "3" and "50" stalkers. The "gang stalking" news stories are in fact news stories of stalking by groups. These two stories are both mainstream FOX-syndicated T.V. news stories. Gang stalking by groups of stalkers is affirmed by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz P.D. in the first story. The second story is an investigative journalist piece confirming multiple, open police investigations of multiple felony crimes in San Antonio related to gang stalking by groups of stalkers.

This response was followed by two Wikipedia "editors" posts that basically stated that the use of "gang stalking" implied conspiracy theories, and, "sensationalist" tabloid-style news. This is contradicted by the fact that both FOX-syndicated news stories were mainstream, and, were both supported by police statement confirmation in both California and Texas. Also, eluding the "editors" is the fact that stalking performed by groups necessitates the underlying crime of conspiracy!

The author replied by stressing the solid content of the relevant and highly probative news stories deleted:

Two mainstream news stories have been redacted because of semantics, to wit, the use of the term "gang stalking". These include a public statement by an active duty police lieutenant from Santa Cruz on "gang stalking" by groups. Also included is an investigative journalist news story from San Antonio finding multiple, open felony cases related to "gang stalking" by groups by both local San Antonio police, and, the San Antonio Sheriff's Office. These are both FOX-syndicated news stories. The content being scrubbed is probative, factual in nature and relevant, and, is far from being "sensationalist" or tabloid news. The fact that vast conspiracy theories are affiliated with gang stalking is irrelevant to the value of these two factually-based news stories. There are many academic topics that are mired in conspiracy from the moon landing to the J.F.K. assassination. The litmus test should be the quality and content of the materials redacted, not the conspiracy label.PeaceFrog71 (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Both articles are mainstream media news stories and contain information derived from law enforcement officials. There has been no impeachment of the content of the stories. Batvette's argument that the stories are the residue of "sensationalist" claims is irrelevant. Nothing has been adduced to impeach the credibility of the two news stories citing law enforcement concerns and investigations in both California and Texas. The entire rationale behind the redaction is the use of the term "gang stalking" in both news stories. This term has been adopted for activities of reported group stalking by some law enforcement officials. The redaction based upon the terminology "gang stalking", of otherwise highly probative material on group stalking, is cosmetic and semantic. Suggestion:

Some commentators have used the controversial term "gang stalking" to refer to reported cases of stalking by groups. [ft] PeaceFrog71(talk) 14:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

True to form, the control freak editors have barred this author from even arguing his case further on the Stalking talk page, claiming he is guilty of "edit warring".

Here is what Wired.com has to say about the politics of Wikipedia "editing":

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker?currentPage=all

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batvette

at 14:05 on July 19th, 2012

Who calls the police if they cannot identify a suspect? Are you that stupid?

The difference between me and Guzzino is I have cameras running and I did get something and put it up on youtube.

I certainly would not call police to say:

"People are following me!"

"Who?"

"I don't know! Wahhhh! I can't play ping pong any more!"

Tell us what the point of your post was besides trying to discredit me. Are you suggesting it was appropriate to call police and try to file a report claiming I was being followed around by unknown people and it caused a paranoia so severe I was scared to play ping pong? What would the goal there be? Maybe get "gang stalking" mentioned on the news so all my little friends on the internet and I could point at it and say to family and friends "look, mom, see I really am okay. the doctors have it all wrong!"

anon posting (not verified)

at 07:40 on July 19th, 2012

Batvette said @ 04:22 on November 15th, 2011-----"I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be. Where is yours?"

batvette

at 07:45 on July 19th, 2012

Where is yours, pretender?

anon posting (not verified)

at 08:33 on July 19th, 2012

"Where is yours, pretender?" Asked, yet again, by batvette. (And he always throws in an insult.) So here it is again: Batvette said @ 04:22 on November 15th, 2011-----"I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be. Where is yours?"

commenting anonymously (not verified)

at 08:41 on July 19th, 2012

Take a look at batvette's conclusions about the Adrian Schoolcraft case before the entire story made its way to air and light -- he was on the wrong side of that one, too, blathering on as he does here, asking stupid questions, making baseless accusations, and expecting others to answer his ridiculous questions, many of which had been answered in any number of ways but, even so, he refused to accept what others were posting. This is a similar situation. He makes specious arguments and lambasts others for their valid points and conclusions. We know that group stalking is a significant and serious problem in the US, in communities all across this country and yet, when the DOJ's Stalking Report confirms it, batvette, jumps up and down, screaming, "but it doesn't, it doesn't!" He's so sure of it (and has such animosity for Attorney Labella) that in typical "borderline" style, he stirs up trouble on Wikipedia's "Stalking" page. Batvette's one of those folks who wants a certain answer and then sets out to prove that the answer that they desire is true, even when it's manifestly false. When the truth about GS is finally revealed (and it will be), batvette will be running around like a chicken with its head cut off, screaming, "..but,... but... but..." At that point in time, he'll say that we didn't explain it well, or we didn't answer his questions, or that we didn't give him our personal narratives, blah, blah, blah... that he couldn't possibly have known because others didn't give him the answers that he needed to be able to accurately state the truth. Attorney Labella isn't trying to mislead anyone, batvette. The DOJ report IS "proof", no matter how you want to spin it. Deny it all you want. It won't ever make your faulty conclusions "true."

FaithlessTemplar

at 08:58 on July 19th, 2012

I think that the report has some validity , it shows us accurately how many people in the US have reported being stalked although sadly missing is their beliefs about who and why.

Btw, I noticed you ignored the actual point of my previous post and that you are responsible for the last 5 posts on this site, dedicating each one to batvette. Now thats creepy, son.

"Son" of Faithless Templar (not verified)

at 09:44 on July 19th, 2012

It's gang stalking "thats (sic) creepy", "Dad", as are people who refer to others as "son." But moving on, keep questioning those assumptions of yours, "Faithless Templar", as others have suggested!

batvette

at 10:04 on July 19th, 2012

It's gang stalking "thats (sic) creepy",
I'm sure you can describe some of these "creepy" things you have witnessed as a "victim", right? Why would someone who is a victim of crimes which allegedly are destroying their life go for years without mentioning once what they, individually are going through- and instead be perfectly content to promote a group belief of vague hypothetical wide ranging conspiracies as described by others?
Obviously someone who experiences no crimes at all and is merely seeking inclusion with the group. You don't want anything to end at all.

"Son" of Faithless Templar (not verified)

at 10:42 on July 19th, 2012

Yada, yada, yada, ratvette.

PeaceFrog

at 05:08 on July 20th, 2012

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC'S PERCEPTIONS OF REALITY?

BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009

I take a lot of photos too, and have a sign that says "Gangstalking today? you might be on YOUTUBE tommorrow!" in my window. Another says "Organized stalking is a crime, under USC title 18 section 241-(243 if you are a L.E.O.) Explain that to the kids, they're going to ask why DADDY went to PRISON.")

You know they love me for that one.

at 17:58 on June 15th, 2009
I still wonder, though, what's the common denominator here? The way these people do this always seems to be taken from the same textbook of tactics, they aren't all coming up with this on their own. Do they have some kind of recruiting site? Is there some club that picks people?

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Organized Stalking TI's navigate truth and deception on the web | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/organized-stalking-tis-navigate-truth-and-deception-web#ixzz1yIYIT3rJ

at 07:55 on September 10th, 2009

Those are pretty damning words to speak about anyone. I hear the pay isn't so great and they get some of these guys to do this for meals or gas money? I don't know who is the bigger chump: the perps, or the handlers for overpaying a pittance for such loser help.

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 2 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIZElpIk

Batvette, (August 16, 2009)

This is a message to the perps in their pickup trucks who like to bright my house, to the neighbors who joined gov't snitch programs, to the members of community steering groups we believe finger us for a slow death sentance, and the architects of this whole concept.

You're haters. It's that simple. You are the enemy of America, and will only cause terrorism against the country to increase, because the world always looked up to us for one fundamental reason: The US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. In fact when I enlisted in the military, the first line of the oath states "I swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". By denying people due process, by committing acts of punishment clearly cruel and unusual, and picking individuals who are feared for their history of speaking out against abuses of authority, YOU endanger that document and what it stands for.

If we're dirtbags, if we're scum you need to put down... what does that make you for having no greater purpose in life but to spend time watching us? A step beneath us, that's for sure. You probably wanted to do this because you see America's future, your hopes, your dreams, slipping away, and wanted to contribute something to your community after 9/11. Fight them terrorists, huh Sparky?

Well there aren't any homegrown terrorists, unless you count yourselves. The DHS filed over 800,000 criminal cases from 2004-2007, and just 12 of them, or .0015% were related to terrorism. It's all a big scam, you're a participant in a command and control scheme, the architects of which are the same corporate elite who sold off America's patents, copyrights and financial assets (including factories) in the '90's and live behind the walls of gated communities, and need you to be their secret police to prevent wide spread civil unrest as it gets much worse economically.

That's right, you aren't saving America from terrorists, you're the last nails in the coffin. You aren't better than us, it's quite the opposite- you could be counted on to follow orders and not question whether they were right or wrong. You aren't the type to take it all in and see the big picture that isn't usually shown to the people. You do your job well because you lack a solid moral compass, are of below average intelligence, and easily fall for faulty ideological mantras.

Above all, you are too timid to stand up and challenge authority when it needs to be challenged. You need to join a group of other like minded twits to indulge your desire to bully and control people, need "empowerment and adventure" (Thanks, Mark Rich) because you can't get it on your own initiative, or need the numbers of a gang to intimidate others. A complete morally decrepit, dimwitted, cowardly pathetic wretch. It takes what, 50, 100 of you to keep one TI down? I'd call that a mismatch. In our favor.

Better than us? Hardly, fact is you are a sociopath. A psychopath, even. What other kind of person would sit in his pickup like you do, in a dark, cold parking lot at night, hoping the target might pop out so you might have the opportunity to drive at him and intimidate him with your headlights? One could even theorize all of this wasn't designed to get rid of us, but use us to keep you busy and focused in life- otherwise you might be torturing small animals, cruising the playgrounds looking for five year olds, and if you weren't parked out there waiting for me it might be outside of your ex wife, girlfriend, or the loan officer who repo'd your ice cream truck.

You may cause my demise, I can't seem to stop that. I've made my situation worse with defiance but I have no regrets as I feel an obligation to obstruct and occupy you as much as humanly possible like a prisoner of war must try to be a pain in the ass to his enemy captors. This delays you introducing your evil activities to the next target, or an existing one will have less of you to apply to their life that day. I will defy you to the end, even as your fascist jackboot crushes my skull to the ground, as it will have my teeth marks in it.

And you and yours, despite your feigned attitudes of disgust as you rid your neighborhoods of another "undesirable" from your midst, will be too dense to recognize the subconscious feelings of envy that you'd been born with as much courage, intestinal fortitude and love for humanity in your whole body as each of us has in a finger. You deserve to live in the world you are creating, one of hatred, conformity, suspicion, and mediocrity, if you are indicative of it maybe it's best to leave it.

I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N

Do you remember any of your own statements?:

at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009

n my observation in my city, the police participate, and Jiverly Wong, the Binghampton shooter was almost certainly stalked by his local police- his note said "they pull out suddenly in front of my car 32 times, but I did not hit them once" and that's why the issue of him being gangstalked was given little attention- the agency that did the investigation was the one stalking him!

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFDxkBR

at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009

I holler out to my perps who are surely listening to everything: If I'm a loser, what are you when your whole life revolves around watchng me? Before our feet hit the ground every morning I'm already winning because you can't let a minute go by without paying attention to me yet I couldn't care less who you are.

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Gangstalking TI's (targeted individual's) Manifesto | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1yIFn2867

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at 10:50 on July 19th, 2012

How does this guy, batvette, sound to you? Ever try this one out with law enforcement or the media? If anyone is need of meds... If one were triaging patients, one might tell this guy, batvette, to run to the front of the line. Batvette's words: "As much of my day is spent at my desk facing the same direction, could that have caused or worsened scoliosis, if several times a week I fell asleep in the chair and woke up hours later, slumped down but the chair and my body having moved three feet to the right as if a magnet was pulling at it? ---------------------------------- Sounds outlandish? Well the community has many people believing "microwaves" are directed at people in harmful ways. What if there was some form of energy they'd harness that can push, pull, or even bend or stress, matter? It would be something outside of known physics. All I can say is I can look at walls, furniture, objects in my house like a bicycle hanging from the ceiling, and they look like they move. You close your eyes and touch them, they feel like they move. When they move to an extreme, you hear creaks etc like they move- not as loud as you'd think though. A door viewed from inside, bows outward, bulging. Viewed simultaneously from a camera outside on a monitor, you see this too. ---------------------------- It is difficult to capture on video. If they are indeed applying an energy upon my dwelling that makes it appear "bent" or "bending" I think they did this to my body." (pulled from another comment on another thread)

From "Batvette's Big Adventure" (not verified)

at 10:52 on July 19th, 2012

How does this guy, batvette, sound to you? Ever try this one out with law enforcement or the media, batvette? If anyone is need of meds... If one were triaging patients, one might tell this guy, batvette, to run to the front of the line. Batvette's words: "As much of my day is spent at my desk facing the same direction, could that have caused or worsened scoliosis, if several times a week I fell asleep in the chair and woke up hours later, slumped down but the chair and my body having moved three feet to the right as if a magnet was pulling at it? ---------------------------------- Sounds outlandish? Well the community has many people believing "microwaves" are directed at people in harmful ways. What if there was some form of energy they'd harness that can push, pull, or even bend or stress, matter? It would be something outside of known physics. All I can say is I can look at walls, furniture, objects in my house like a bicycle hanging from the ceiling, and they look like they move. You close your eyes and touch them, they feel like they move. When they move to an extreme, you hear creaks etc like they move- not as loud as you'd think though. A door viewed from inside, bows outward, bulging. Viewed simultaneously from a camera outside on a monitor, you see this too. ---------------------------- It is difficult to capture on video. If they are indeed applying an energy upon my dwelling that makes it appear "bent" or "bending" I think they did this to my body."

batvette

at 13:52 on July 19th, 2012

Next you're going to claim I have an agenda of discrediting victims by using their life stories, right?

You need to get back on the meds.

As for what I describe I can not explain it, the range of senses that are affected go beyond any hallucinations symptomatic of mental illness and closely resemble what one would expect "gaslighting" to be if taking on a 21st century technological update- but I have nothing to hide and only post here as myself. (I know of several other targets who have described these same effects by the way)

You on the other hand post pretending to be over a hundred different individuals, pretending to be a "victim" yet never share a thing you experience.

But really, you have had my story to mock, ridicule, pick to pieces. You know my real name and the city live in.

Who are you and what do you experience that you would call "gang stalking"? How is the GOVERNMENT trying to DESTROY YOU?

PeaceFrog

at 05:07 on July 20th, 2012

DO YOU MEAN LIKE THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC'S PERCEPTIONS OF REALITY?

BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009

You know they love me for that one.

Batvette, (August 16, 2009)

I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N

Do you remember any of your own statements?:

at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009

at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009

These were the tags you chose:

anonymously offered (not verified)

at 11:05 on July 25th, 2012

lol, batvette, buddy. Please take a good, hard look in the mirror and tell yourself what you're so fond of telling others, who make a lot more sense than you. On numerous occasions, you've posted the following: "You need to get back on the meds." ("How is the GOVERNMENT trying to DESTROY YOU?" This shouted by the great batvette. Well, honey, I can tell you this. The walls of my house aren't moving! lol. If anyone else posted your comments, you'd tell them that they're nuts. But your experiences "are credible", you assure us. Sure. They are only credible to you (and other nutcases, perhaps), I assure you. And you have the unmitigated gall to mock, Lawrence Guzzino, Peacefrog, Bonnie Calcagno, and others of your choosing? Give me a break. You're a joke.

George P. (not verified)

at 10:57 on July 19th, 2012

Oh, I forgot the best part of batvette's psychotic episode: "So there you go. I know being so candid may not be in my best interests, but it's credible." That's credible? Really? Really? Really? (Lawrence Guzzino's comments to the media have batvette all worked up, but HIS "episode" with gang stalking is "credible." Give me an f'ing break.) You're criticizing Lawrence Guzzino for "paranoia" that was in all likelihood induced by gang stalking? You're criticizing him for displaying his vulnerability after a period of systematic harassment and bullying? You're a bully yourself, batvette.

FaithlessTemplar

at 11:55 on July 19th, 2012

you do realize that 90% of the posts in the last 24 hours have come from you and have been regarding batvette, right?

How do you think others would view this behaviour?

Do you think they read your posts and think "golly! that well-balanced chap seems to be in the know.....we must spread this knowledge!"?

or do you think its more like "eeeeeewwwww what a creepy nutcase!"?

I noticed you abandoned all your previous arguments in favour of focusing on my use of the word "son". no doubt you consider that "typical gangstalker behaviour" and concrete proof of your theories.

time to get a life/job/woman. son

No "Son" of Faithless Templar (not verified)

at 16:35 on July 19th, 2012

Some have suggested that you ARE batvette, FT. Just sayin'... Whatever the case, keep questioning those assumptions, buddy. Start with this one: "I noticed you abandoned all your previous arguments in favour of focusing on my use of the word "son". no doubt you consider that "typical gangstalker behaviour" and concrete proof of your theories." Actually FT, it simply seems like you're someone who jumps to erroneous conclusions. And your choices of expressions and words reflect a need to feel superior to others.

batvette

at 18:21 on July 19th, 2012

Just like a cheating spouse who constantly accuses their mate of cheating, or a proven liar whose only chance to improve their credibility is to level the playing field calling others liars, (Peacefrog tactics) all you offer is to wrongfully accuse others of what you seem to have the market cornered doing.
You even seem to have become so immersed in your multiple personality disorder like sock puppeting/revolving identities you think someone else is as insipidly moronic as yourself and thinks NowPublic allows people to be multiple registered users. You're symptomatic of why NowPublic's traffic has plunged enormously since 2 years ago, giving unregistered users the ability to troll and spam at will never leads to good things.

Especially ones so obviously pretending to be something they are not.

PeaceFrog

at 05:10 on July 20th, 2012

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC'S PERCEPTIONS OF REALITY?

BATVETTE at 09:25 on March 22nd, 2009

You know they love me for that one.

Batvette, (August 16, 2009)

I just have one thing left- when they trained you people to do this, which of these came first in the program- was it the castration... or the lobotomy?

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gangstalking-tis-targeted-individuals-manifesto#ixzz1xUXeCE1N

Do you remember any of your own statements?:

at 23:58 on August 17th, 2009

at 00:50 on September 6th, 2009

These were the tags you chose:

anonymouse (not verified)

at 16:32 on July 20th, 2012

some have suggested you are Peacefrog, just saying.... your behavior is one of a poser troll who consistently only shows up to post multiple ad hominem attacks or repeat post whatever Peacefrog writes. You are either Peacefrog or someone who hasn't the capacity to reflect on these issues and come to his or her own conclusions. I guess that reflects your need to be part of the Peacefrog pool of victim by secret government.

"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)

at 15:20 on July 19th, 2012

As an outsider, I would like to posit that if one wants to understand this stalking behavior that has obviously taken hold across this nation. That one includes internet spam and internet hacking in such anti-social behavior. Spam and hacking imho is a form of e-stalking. Personally I don't understand the focus on government conspiracy when there are so many obvious stalking and mobbing episodes by "gangs" that have been actually caught on video going undiscussed.

FaithlessTemplar

at 17:47 on July 19th, 2012

I am sorry if my choice of words makes you feel inferior , son. That was not my intention at all. I have nothing but respect for a man who believes everyone is out to get him so as to avoid taking responsibility for his own life.

The very fact that batvette and I registered users means we cannot be the same person.

There was no midtake in my conclusion though, both you and peacefag have abandoned every single point of argument since the start , when peacefag lied about his ISP check.

PeaceFrog

at 05:34 on July 20th, 2012

Faithless ASS:

I already explained that user Elizabeth Blandra signed in ONCE for me to make an edit. One, of the dozens of edits I made on Wikipedia was done from her computer some 300 miles away. I never denied this. It was totally blown out of proportion by Pinheads like YOU and RATVETTE.

Elizabeth Blandra (not verified)

at 09:07 on July 20th, 2012

Correct.

batvette

at 00:13 on July 23rd, 2012

Why is it being "blown out of proportion"? '

Blandra's reprehensible trolling here pretending to be at last count over a hundred different individuals, back biting registered users with the intent of making it look like she is a a consensus of dozens of people.

So if you don't want a big deal made out of evidence that proves you were implicated in sock puppetry get your little sock puppet to stop sock puppeting.

Pretty f u c k ing easy now isn't it.

PeaceFrog

at 07:33 on July 23rd, 2012

Ratvette,

Ratvette, "John Lucier", an enemy of the gang stalking victim- a gang stalking RAT. His "contribution" is to dismiss gang stalking techniques as "paranoia", even though the hypocrite wrote profusely about his own gang stalking "paranoia" in 2009. He also abuses victims by mocking their stories even though he cried before about his own victimization before joining the arseholes.

His further "contribution" was to eliminate two FOX NEWS gang stalking stories from Wikipedia's stalking page, as well as, the DOJ documents that were on Wikipedia for over a year proving gang stalking by groups of between 3 and 50 stalkers acting together as a team.

A few weeks later and the largest mass shooting in US history occurred by a "loner type" who came from a notorious gang stalking hotpot of Riverside, CA. "Batvette" comes from San Diego, not far from Riverside, and, he was stalked, in part, because he was a loner back in 2009.

Great work you punk. You are beneath contempt.

whosemindcontrol (not verified)

at 07:16 on July 25th, 2012

It's amazing how often I hear or read about targets who claim the goal of GS is to effect the mind control of targets/dissidents. It isn't. The goal of GS is to effect subjugation, via many mechanisms including mind control - of the participants of gang stalking! We are targeted precisely because we, for various reasons, are NOT under mind control. We are also targeted because we serve as focal points for the mind control of the stalkers. They've managed to control 95 percent of the population in this way, which is to say they have been phenomenally effective. It's really a done game, and we (targets) should just leave the country. Probably, Batvette is a regular guy under a little more mind control than some of the others. Think about what the government wants us all to have -continuously - ad nauseum. What is it? Vaccinations. Where do you get them more than elsewhere? In the air force, navy ,etc. Now, what is the purpose of vaccinations? Mind control. Why? They are all chock full of metals. Vaccines typically carry a boatload of mercury. For some reason, there is an all out effort to get metal contaminants into our brains. Sodium Fluoride is a catalyst which induces the absorption of aluminum by the human brain. It's put into the water, intentionally, for this purpose. Additionally, it sedates willpower. The sodium fluoride sources all contain lead. Also a metal. Need I go on?

batvette

at 12:37 on July 25th, 2012

Ratvette, "John Lucier", an enemy of the gang stalking victim- a gang stalking RAT.
I think people can make up their own minds who their enemies are and do not need a phoney, a person pretending to be a victim of something his refusal to have ever described his own experience with, makes it improbable anything has ever happened to him. . I think you are an agent provocateur, your actions fit the script perfectly. Lure people in with a bit of factual info to get them interested and trusting, then spin them in circles with worthless disinformation that discredits them if they repeat it. And use the most reprehensible tactics to turn the group against any member whose dissent from your false prophet agenda threatens your mission. That's what you do.
As well as LIE, You see this?
as well as, the DOJ documents that were on Wikipedia for over a year proving gang stalking by groups of between 3 and 50 stalkers acting together as a team.

Peacefrog, again, is LYING. Here's the proof:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking#Stalking_by_groups

Those documents are discussed in the article and linked to as they always have been, I never touched them. So he completely fabricates baseless allegations to discredit TI's while pretending to be one. (that report does NOT prove "gang stalking" and you know it, you are furious your disinfo was rejected by unanimous consent of wiki editors and your editing priviliges were blocked for a number of wiki policy offenses.)