Gang Stalking: Wikipedia's Agent Provocateurs & Cyber trolls

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Is there a point you're trying to make here or are you spamming again? 

Spamming is what trolls do to divert discussions. 

Please tell us exactly what it is the government is doing to destroy you. 

What is the government doing to destroy you?

If you didn't receive the data in a usable form then how were you able to publish what you did from it?

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So you believe that in the US right now, millions of perpetrators are involved in psychological sensitization programs to destroy hundreds of thousands of targets by merely jangling keys, wearing red shirts, and leaving lawn mowers on their lawns, things like that. 

Describe a day in the life of a real target, as you have witnessed. 

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What of it?

He also has no problem discrediting victims, if it suits his purpose.
 Why are you posting under up to a hundred different pseudonyms, with the sole intent of trying to discredit me? 

Why do you keep spamming these articles with the sole intent of trying to discredit me? What are you trying to hide here? 

Thanks for the response and question batvette..

One thing that one must first try and realize is why the examples you gave "jangling keys, wearing red shirts, and leaving lawn mowers on their lawns"  might possibly have been in someway playing into a victims thoughts and psyche making them believe that because of those suggested examples, that they are indeed being harassed and gangstalked. This comes only after repeated and long term exposure to specific gangstalking psychological sensitization methods. That why the actual 'psychological sensitization' component in gangstalking is such an important factor and method used and implemented to manipulate and effect gangstalking victims minds, logic, and emotional spirit.

As a possible example, let me suggest what one 'gangstalking victim' might have experienced from actual gangstalking technics that would lead to them to believe in the examples you've suggested.

Lets take the red shirt for example..

Specific gangstalking directed towards a victim can be very similar to this..

On lets say specific days of the week a targeted individual might be exposed to repeated individuals walking by them in an unusual large numbers all wearing red shirts. This may only seem a bit odd if it happens once, but lets say the victim is exposed to this activity every monday, wed, friday, for three months straight wherever they might be or go. This is specifically to cause and create the victims attention, and more importantly purposely 'sensitize' the gangstalked victim to this activity. Now let us say this activity suddenly stops, but a week later this gangstalked victim sees three people together wearing red shirts. Because of the sensitization to this victim, the victim may assume whether correctly or not that these individuals might be perpetrators purposely there to stalk, annoy, or actually psychologically effect and demean the victim. This type of situation is purposely repeated hundreds of times on victims until the victim knows or realizes they are being targeted; even though any casual observer specifically won't notice anything odd or out or the ordinary. This is of course by design to keep the gangstalking going on without being noticed by anyone else. Yet the victim would be fully and quite purposely aware that they are being stalked and continually followed and harassed. In the end you could substitute multiple people jiggling keys specifically in some other similar gangstalking example, or understand after some repeated scenario with lawn movers how and why this type of 'repeated method sensitization' is so important and purposely used to create in victims minds and psyche the illusion, whether real, accurate or not in each perceived incidence, that the victim is being gangstalked. This of course is by design. Gangstalking technics work when victims have become so sensitized to these street theater events that they believe, whether real or not, that each continued event or incidence is happening to them, and that they are being gangstalked.

Gang-stalking can be and is as much a psychological disturbing experience, as much as it is some physical (street theater) event_to victims of it. If exposed gang-stalking would be considered a malicious and human rights attack with multiple constitutional violations. It would be considered illegal on multiple levels of physical, emotional and mental cruelity laws,including specific constitutional freedom, privacy, and hate crime law violations.

Sure, batvette.  Never mind the defamation, surreptitious home entries, gas-lighting, vandalism, harassment, thefts and 24/7 monitoring.

Why are you posting under up to a hundred different pseudonyms, with the sole intent of trying to discredit me? -batvetteWhat in the hell are you talking about?

I'd rather hear Peacefrog, or you, or his sock puppets, describe what gangstalking activities you personally experience, then go off  on hypothetical experiences that may be happening to some other fictional people. 

Otherwise that's all it is, is fiction. 

Batvette says that he'll discredit victims "one life story at a time."  
That's a lie, and you're a liar. 

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Says it all. 

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All you need to know. 

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Did someone say something?

Batvette's comment to PeaceFrog's "How Widespread is Gang Stalking?" article:-----my.nowpublic.com/world/how-widespread-gang-stalking-----Batvette said @ 04:22 on November 15th, 2011-----I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be. Where is yours?

When did I say I would discredit "victims"? 

I meant pretenders like YOU. (not verified) (which is why I said "where's yours")

You added that. You were lying and I just proved you're a liar.

(not verified)  Lies putting words in my mouth I never said to discredit me, pretends to be a gang stalking victim so has no account of their own. (as if a real victim would have waited all this time to ever discuss what happens to them until I came along and asked about it.)

(not verified) How much do you and Peacefrog get paid for spreading all this disinformation?

Obviously too much: The broad strokes of the "criminal gang stalking program" is well known. 

as competence in  English composition seems to be something they no longer demand from the staff at disinfo central. However the "broad strokes" as painted by others are so easy to call your own as well, aren't they?

The reason your disinformation was removed was made clear on that article's talk page, perhaps you should go there and discuss it with wiki admin. 

Why are you shouting in caps all the time? Anger management counseling would probably help you. 

Fair enough question, I am certainly interested in the answer.

So what is the motive? And who does benefit?

THIS IS CLEARLY A PROGRAM AFFECTING COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS.

We don't know how many people are involved unless each shares their personal account with the public. You've never done this and have long engaged in a disinformation campaign involving outrageous silly "tactics" of ridiculous "psychological sensitization" being perpetrated by millions of individuals in a vast government conspiracy, a scenario the public and authorities can rightfully ridicule and dismiss. The fact you cannot provide any personal experiences of your own while asserting stupid shyte you find on the internet from others is really happening make it all too convenient for you to operate as a tool for the program to permanently marginalize any similar claims, yet leave yourself beyond accountable for all the stupid shyte you publish. Forgetting all that is still the basic premise that if a person has never and refuses to describe events that happen to others they say also happen to them, it is highly unlikely they are what they claim. 

I am pretty sure that was the number of uninvestigated claims of being stalked, not all of them were verified as being accurate. Or were they?

Your entry in that wiki article was disinformation. Apparently you are under the misconception that merely seeing gang stalking mentioned in enough places, surrounded by falsehoods and sensationalism, is "progress". 

I disagree, and stated the reason for removing that entry weeks in advance of doing so. Before you were blocked from further editing for a number of violations to wiki policy including edit warring and using sock puppet accounts you had a chance to reply to my rationale your entry was false and misleading disinformation to targets but you chose to ignore it and went off on irrelevant tangents. 

I'm sorry you find obstruction to your proliferation of false information to targets which is a liability to discredit them amounts to me being a "fraud" and your delusion that you have the authority to declare who is a "legitimate gang stalking target" or not. 

I suppose authoring a web page complaining seeing lawn mowers on lawns amounts to "abuse" might win points from Peacefrog, the biggest source of disinformation on the internet, but I'm not interested, thank you. 

I do take exception to your repeated and never substantiated allegation I am a "liar" and again offer the opportunity to provide an example of this or just again prove YOU are the liar and worst attorney that ever slept through the bar exam, and have merely adopted "gang stalking" as your own cause to make up for your incredibly failed life living in your parents' basement or garage. "No, mom, really, I'm not a loser, I'm being gang stalked! Can't you see them, they're everywhere!". 

Those 185,000 people reported being stalked in the sense as defined by law, can you elaborate on how this validates any claims of "psychological sensitization" or the various so called "tactics" promoted by "activists" like yourself that all too uncannily resemble a schizophrenic's perceptions of reality?

But let's get back to that "government document". I thought you claimed your FOIA request resulted in you being presented with something in a form you could not access. Yet it appears you are the source of that report. Where is the answer to the question that is missing about who they believed was involved? Don't you want to know the answer to this? Or are you hiding it with any effort possible as it precludes your conspiracy theory?

Batvette, If you understood the FOIA process and had taken the time to look at the Victimization Survey, you might be able to answer some of your own questions, but that would take some work.   It's easier to expect others to provide answers to your questions, rather than figuring out the answers yourself.  The process of seeking answers for oneself -- the exercise alone -- is often instructive.  You might just discover something new.

We went through this a few times already, son. We agreed that was a dubious and arguably immoral bent to who was targeted but there WERE reasons why they were targeted by such programs.

I am guessing you are neither a nobel prize winner or an anti-war protester, right?

So how are you in any way like the example you gave me before? Such a person could if they so wished cause a great deal of grief for those in power and rally popular support. YOU on the other hand are a complete nobody.