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Gene Burns: Try Cheney in the Hague for War Crimes
Mainstream talk radio host Gene Burns calls for Cheney to be tried in the Hague for war crimes rendition and torture, after seeing the PBS documentary Torturing Democracy, which won't be aired before January 20, 2009. In this oped for Harper's, Scott Horton notes the likely reason the Bush Administration has used it's influence to keep Torturing Democracy from being aired before they leave office, and the reason the Discovery Channel didn't air Taxi to the Dark Side, is because people like Gene Burns, who previously didn't believe the Bush Administration was involved in torture and that waterboarding isn't torture, no longer believe that after seeing these documentaries.
A Ticket to The Hague for Dick Cheney? By Scott Horton
Gene Burns is one of the nation’s most popular talk radio hosts. For years he has dismissed accounts of torture; America, he has said, does not torture. But last night, after watching Torturing Democracy and realizing that he had not understood how important and serious an issue torture had become, Burns abruptly changed his tune. Here’s a transcript of his remarks.
I now believe that some international human rights organization ought to open an investigation of the Bush Administration, I think focused on Vice President Dick Cheney, and attempt to bring charges against Cheney in the international court of justice at The Hague, for war crimes. Based on the manner in which we have treated prisoners at Guantánamo Bay, and the manner in which we have engaged in illegal rendition–that is, surreptitiously kidnapping prisoners and flying them to foreign countries where they could be tortured by foreign agents who do not follow the same civilized standards to which we subscribe.
I’ve always said that I’ve thought that even at Guantánamo Bay the United States was careful to stay on this side of torture. In fact, you may recall that on a couple of occasions we got into a spirited debate on this program about waterboarding, and whether waterboarding was torture. And I took the position that it was not torture, that it was simulated drowning, and that if that produced information which preserved our national security, I thought it was permissible.
And then I saw Torturing Democracy.



Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (6)
at 22:20 on November 15th, 2008
I saw Torturing Democracy...it had a segment that did discuss water boarding but the next segment showed Cheney and Bush in Congress after Bush signed a bill that Congress had ---passed sometime ago while the documentary was being made ---that generally exonerated them from all their "war crimes" meaning the Guantanamo Bay "simulated drowning."
The only consolation that some sectors of the humanity has is that it seems Karma still works. After killing millions in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere , imagine all the extreme weather systems and the fire and hail storms and all those people now without jobs or homes or food in the thousands now but estimated to be in the millions in the near future...in a country called America...
at 21:11 on November 15th, 2008
thanks Amy, i take it you mean a strong statement for a mainstream talk show host? The bloggers and some progressive orgs and pundits have been calling for war crimes trials for years.
I think you're right- with it appearing that Bush wants to leave office instead of declare martial law with himself as permanent dictator in chief, it seems people feel better about speaking out.
Bush has looked extremely happy lately; with the next big Al CIAduh terror attack coming, i bet he's glad he won't be in charge- it can be blamed on Obama and the Dems.
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at 20:41 on November 15th, 2008
wow, this is crazy. That's quite a strong statement to make, although now that the Bush administration is on its way out, I suppose people don't care as much.
at 21:14 on November 15th, 2008
So glad you put this out there... more people need to see this
at 21:15 on November 15th, 2008
He should be tried for a lot more then just that. As well as many other by the way.
at 22:18 on November 15th, 2008
thanks, guys- i agree, Paschen, the Bush Administration would seem to be riddled with career corporate criminals.