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GESTAPO USA: Gov't-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America
• Pervasive NSA surveillance of the public and journalists just baseline program for array of extrajudicial abuses -- organized community watch "gang stalking," financial expropriation, and "slow genocide" via silent, invisible microwave and laser radiation weapons and devices.
• Cell tower- based microwave/laser radiation weapon systems used to silently and covertly torture and impair "targeted" citizens.
• Congress: Probe electromagnetic torture, impairment and terroristic vigilante harassment of unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans and their families.
• A cause of the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets?
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A virulent form of government-enabled domestic terrorism is destroying the lives of citizens across America.
Victims of so-called organized "gang stalking" or "community stalking" charge that the rule of law has broken down nationwide at the hands of state-supported vigilantes -- operating under the cover of citizen community policing and neighborhood watch corps and business-related anti-terrorism programs, supplemented by municipal workers and members of private and fraternal organizations.
A nationwide network comprised of these citizen groups, funded and apparently overseen by elements of government at multiple levels, is the mechanism of extrajudicial targeting and punishment that victims say is dispensing officially tolerated "vigilante justice" -- a bypass of the judicial system and the rule of law.
Many web sites in the U.S., Canada and other industrialized nations chronicle this horror. But victims say the tentacles of this domestic terrorism extend well beyond the so-called "street muscle" comprised of gang-stalking local vigilantes and self-styled soldiers of fortune.
Victims of this extrajudicial punishment network -- what some have termed "the torture matrix" -- maintain that its operatives are acting as judge, jury and executioner for what amounts to an evil shadow government. So-called "targeted individuals" -- and by extension, entire families -- are subject to physical assault and psychological and physical harassment that victims say amounts to officially-sanctioned domestic torture. Some victims have moved to other cities and towns seeking a safe harbor -- but they say the persecution recurs in their new locale.
"It appears to be a nationwide network that attracts extremists as well as law-and-order types and people connected to public safety such as firefighters, utility workers, police auxiliaries, retired police and military officers, and even their family members, including children and teenagers," says one victim, who says he has been "gang stalked" for several years. "I doubt it could exist without some people in positions of power looking the other way."
Even some regular, uniformed police are reported to have been intimidated by this network of extrajudicial punishment -- described benignly by its defenders as a social "control" mechanism.
Victims say that they are physically harassed and relentlessly stalked, whether they travel on foot or in vehicles. GPS devices are secreted in their cars or cell phones. When a "target" enters a designated "node" area -- whether near or far -- the local vigilantes in that area receive a signal on their GPS or cellphone devices, often accompanied by a read-out of commands from the "team leader," specifying what kind of sadistic psychological terror and harassment to dish out.
The stalkers then "swarm the target," whose GPS beacon shows up on their GPS device screens in a distinct pattern that stalkers call "the crown of evil" -- since they have been indoctrinated to believe that their prey are "terrorists" or criminals or social deviates who have committed terrible acts.
The stalkers typically ride the target's bumper, drive recklessly or intrusively, causing near-accidents. On foot, the stalkers approach their targets in public places such as stores or libraries. They come ever closer, invading the target's personal space. The intent: psychological intimidation, an attempt to provoke or fabricate a contrived confrontation -- so-called "street theater" -- that later can be used as "evidence" that the target is "mentally unstable."
Stalkers also surreptitiously enter their targets' homes and vandalize property, from autos parked in garages to appliances, furnaces, plumbing systems, even personal items of clothing. The intruders play sadistic psychological mind games on their targets, such as rearranging or hiding their possessions -- what the gang stalkers call "gaslighting," after the classic Ingrid Bergman film in which an evil husband uses trickery and deception in an attempt to convince his wife that she is going crazy. (Like many gang stalking victims, she figures it out in the end.)
Targets of the "torture matrix" find their privacy is constantly invaded by way of pervasive surveillance of all electronic communications, which often are tampered with or altered in transit. Both video and audio "bugs" are planted in targets' supposedly private residences.
Information gleaned from surveillance, such as details of private conversations, is funneled to the street stalkers -- who then repeat these "directed" comments within earshot of the target -- a form of psychological harassment intended to provoke anxiety and fear.
The sophistication of the surveillance leads victims to conclude that gang stalking is the local component of an expansive covert executive program of social control, physical harassment and torture overseen by federal military, security, intelligence and revenue agencies outside of the purview of Congress or the courts.
A host of government programs sold to Congress as "tools" with which to fight terrorism and drug trafficking are employed to destroy the financial well-being of targeted persons and their families. Victims report their mail is intercepted and financial accounts and billing statements are fabricated and altered. In effect, targets and their families are covertly segregated into a parallel system of transaction processing established with the apparent cooperation of private companies. Victims view this gradual expropriation of their personal wealth and the destruction of their ability to support themselves and their families as "social genocide."
"This financial exploitation and manipulation of our accounts and records fits the dictionary definition of fascism -- authoritarian bureaucrats working secretly with the private sector to neutralize and destroy people they regard as undesirable, or as 'dissidents' who may stand in their way," says one victim, a journalist who says his career, finances and physical health have been decimated.
Targets of this extrajudicial punishment network and their families also come under relentless physical assault, according to victim accounts, by way of hi-tech equipment such as "directed energy weapons" (D.E.W.) which emit silent bursts of radiation -- microwaves, x-rays, sonic frequencies, and scalar electromagnetic waves that produce variable amounts of precision-targeted energy when "triangulated" on a target.
The attacks are delivered via terrestrial and satellite electromagnetic energy, using "phased array" antenna systems installed on cell towers -- an offensive weapon system hiding in plain sight in neighborhoods and along highways nationwide.
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwave-weapon
The "ray gun" of science fiction is now a reality of stealth warfare, and has been insidiously deployed as a means of government-imposed enslavement of civilian populations.
The government describes such weaponry as "non-lethal." In fact, experts familiar with radiation weaponry say these devices can be used to torture, inflict bodily harm, induce illness, fatigue, weakness, excruciating pain and injury -- or to kill.
A 2006 video produced by the U.S. Air Force "Directed Energy Directorate" at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico discusses how such weaponry is designed to "accurately aim and put this energy on target with surgical precision." (Emphasis added).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSGprwJx_zs&NR=1
After six months of reporting in this space, the first crack in an official wall of silence regarding the wholesale deployment of radiation weapons came on Christmas Eve, 2008 -- and went largely unnoticed by the mainstream media.
The magazine New Scientist reported: "The research arm of the U.S. Department of Justice is working on two portable non-lethal weapons that inflict pain from a distance using beams of laser light or microwaves, with the intention of putting them into the hands of police to subdue suspects."
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16339-us-police-could-get-pain-beam-weapons.html
A recent article on the Wired.com magazine "Danger Room" blog site discusses a court document said to indicate that the U.S. Secret Service is involved in the development of directed energy weapons technology. The article speculates that the agency may have deployed such devices in the course of its official duties.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/11/presidents-secr.html
In fact, say victims of government-supported extrajudicial punishment, radiation weapons and devices have been covertly used for years to harass, torture, and inflict pain and physical and mental incapacitation -- with the number of anecdotal reports surging in the wake of 9/11 and the advent of the "war on terror."
Official confirmation of radiation weapons deployment comes despite a substantial body of medical research which indicates that human exposure to microwave, laser, and other forms of radiated energy can induce weakness, exhaustion, and behavioral changes; can cause strokes, aneurysms, cancer, eye damage and degraded vision; and can induce symptoms that mimic serious brain ailments such as Alzheimer's Disease and schizophrenia, with cognitive impairment that can result in temporary or permanent mental incapacitation, long-term physical disablement, even death.
http://www.slavery.org.uk/MicrowaveCongruenceSchiz.html
The April 2008 edition of the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin discusses the potential lethality of directed energy weapons and how such devices can be used to silently inflict serious injury or to induce harmful, potentially fatal, physiological effects:
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/april08leb.pdf
"This is torture that's happening right here, in American cities and towns," says an alleged victim. "But it's like pre- World War II Germany; people refuse to believe that such abuses could happen in a civilized society. But it is happening. And I'm convinced that some local and federal authorities not only have knowledge of this extra-legal targeting, but are providing funding and direction.
"I know the FBI knows about it, because I've been down there several times over the past two years to report it." He says he knows of no formal investigation, despite his offers to cooperate.
"I'm not saying they know of the worst abuses, such as using microwaves on targeted persons to degrade their health and make it impossible for them to earn a living. But they must know that these citizen patrols are doing a lot more than just cruising around the neighborhood."
Citizens who have reported abuses say their complaints are typically ignored -- or that authorities insinuate their claims are figments of their imagination, or are a manifestation of a mental illness such as paranoia.
"That appears to be part of the M-O," says one victim. "You haven't done anything wrong, so they can't charge you with a crime. So they attempt to make it look like you're crazy. That's how they marginalize people who don't fit in with their world view." The victim says it's possible that local law enforcement has been "co-opted" by a variation of "the big lie."
"Higher-ups come in and say, 'We've identified this person as a threat.' What are they going to do? They're going to go with the program, especially since a lot of their funding comes from outside the community."
This victim believes the vigilante network is a convenient way for those in power to dispense with persons or groups of people they simply don't like or regard as undesirables, or whose political or social views do not hew to what they consider the established order.
Victims allege that the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets may have been worsened by these "programs of personal destruction," which they say are sapping the financial well-being of individuals and families without benefit of the right of due process. Making available "easy credit" is a primary tool that puts targets and their families on the road to financial ruin, victims maintain.
Some wonder whether these extrajudicial programs didn't help spawn financial crises in the first place. "We haven't had these kind of widespread financial woes for generations," a gang-stalking victim said. "You have to wonder if these programs weren't a blueprint for an ideologically-motivated purge."
Officials at agencies looking into mortgage and credit market problems may have had long-standing knowledge of these programs, according to victims, who are calling on Congress to investigate.
"The issue of state-supported vigilantism and extrajudicial control and punishment represents an assault on our judicial system that makes Watergate look like the third-rate burglary that it started out to be," says one victim. "Since government agencies appear to be involved in funding these programs, it's up to Congress to investigate, to use its powers of oversight to ensure that democracy and the rule of law prevails, not the law of the jungle."
The network of programs and policies that are circumventing the judicial system, violating constitutional rights and meting out vigilante justice might collectively be termed the mechanics of personal destruction -- a blueprint for political and social dominance crafted by those who would use the institutions of government as a tool of ideologically-driven social engineering.
This powerful apparatus appears to exist under the radar of most elected members of Congress and officers of the judicial system. They refuse to consider that these programs, over time, have adopted the of methodologies the East German Stasi, the KKK of the old South, and the Gestapo of the Nazi Third Reich -- and that the "targets" include innocent American citizens tagged by someone in a position of power as a "troublemaker," perhaps a whistle-blower, a political "dissident" or falsely slandered as a "social deviate."
Victims say the rise of this "American Gestapo" represents the victory of neo-fascism over democracy -- achieved under the guise of "national security" and "keeping America safe." They say that in the face of mounting evidence of widespread abuses, even those who identify themselves as liberals and progressives often naively insist that "it can't happen here."
Victims charge that extrajudicial targeting and punishment is destroying our democracy. They maintain that untold thousands, if not millions, of individuals and families are being irreparably harmed by this "social genocide." Some call it a "silent holocaust" due to its clandestine nature and the use of silent, invisible radiation weapons technology to achieve its horrific goals.
Below are links to articles about this clear and present danger to our constitutional democracy and to the lives and livelihoods of its citizens. Victims urge lawmakers and congressional committees to start asking some tough questions, starting with the Department of Homeland Security and its security agencies; Defense, and its intelligence and weapons units; Justice, and its authorization of the widespread deployment of radiation weaponry to law enforcement; the various intelligence agencies; and the Treasury department, whose enforcement units apparently have been politicized by ideologues who have used the "war on terror" as cover for an ideologically-motivated campaign of social and political "cleansing."
Victims believe this cancer on American society runs deep, from the Washington bureaucracy to local law enforcement and public safety agencies. But they say the curative process must begin with firm, decisive and immediate action by the new administration before more Americans are damaged by this descent from the rule of law into home-grown fascism.
A FINAL NOTE: The author's communications and blog page are subject to persistent disruption and tampering by unknown hackers. He would appreciate it if NowPublic.com readers would forward the links below to members of Congress and officials at ALCU.org, CCRjustice.org, or any other organization that can help restore American values to American governance and law enforcement.
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http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-tortures-me-silent-microwave-weapons-ousted-s-prez
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener -- re: "Targeting of U.S. Citizens"/ "State-Supported Terrorism"/ "Domestic Torture" / Directed Energy Weapons"
This unaffiliated web site describes an alleged victim's account:
http://monarchnewphoenix.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-destroy-activist.html
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myname (not verified)at 14:59 on July 26th, 2009
Not a ploy Vic, just a *technical* fact.
Satellites cannot attack individual people in the ways you describe.
Have a nice day.
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myname (not verified)at 15:07 on July 26th, 2009
I just want to add that the electronic weapons employed against me are located in adjacent properties and have also been deployed from vans and SUV's while driving and parked.
I have confirmed this to my satisfaction many times.
Again, have a nice day Vic.
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myname (not verified)at 16:09 on July 26th, 2009
I should also add that the primary attacks against me have been and are chemical attacks, including nerve agents, yes, they are not lethal, but nerve agents against innocent citizens?
Who is behind this? What are their motives? Do they think this is "crime prevention?"
Are they all fools? I'd vote yes on this.
Various dispersed chemical agents of varying kinds have been deployed against me around *my home* and against me everywhere I go, squirted on or around me using covert high pressure thin stream squinting methods.
This will come out just like COINTELPRO and MKULTRA did, it's comming, count on it.
Good day.
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myname (not verified)at 16:21 on July 26th, 2009
Disregard military deployment methods described in "Sunshine Project" reports, as they do not apply to civilian assaults by the same.
http://www.sunshine-project.org/publications/pr/pr110203.html
at 17:13 on July 26th, 2009
If cellphones can heat brain tissue, possibly causing cell damage, maybe even more acute physiological damage leading to neurological dysfunction and eventual cancer, then why is it "technically impossible" for a classified GPS-type satellite system (or a terrestrial, cellphone tower- based system) to triangulate within inches on a target, and deliver predetermined frequencies capable of inducing pain, cell damage, injury, illness, strokes, heart attacks, even death?
Since you are so certain that directed energy attacks emanate exclusively from local sources, such as parked cars, or from adjacent buildings, why don't you supply the same kind of "proof" that you demand of me before you are willing to acknowledge the "technical possibilities"?
Could it because because you are posting here as a paid disinformation agent?
Skeptical readers are wondering.
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myname (not verified)at 17:51 on July 26th, 2009
Vic, you need to examine the possibilities for actual cause.
Of course, cell towers could be used as any other place could.
It would be more covert to use something other than a cell tower though, because cell towers have their own purpose that precludes other uses.
Sensationalising is not wise and I am coming to the point that I believe you are not wise or are the Psych-ops agent you accuse others of being.
So Vic, what's the case?
Give us a clue.
at 04:57 on July 27th, 2009
Posting not-so-veiled threats is also "not wise," since it's quite possible that parties who believe in upholding the Constitution of the U.S. -- and don't believe in weaponizing the telecommunications system for purposes of covert torture -- are monitoring this blog site as well.
Have a nice day.
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myname (not verified)at 14:54 on July 27th, 2009
Vic said "Posting not-so-veiled threats is also "not wise,"
And just where was that "threat" Vic.
Repeat "Vic" questioned post -
"Vic, you need to examine the possibilities for actual cause.
Of course, cell towers could be used as any other place could.
It would be more covert to use something other than a cell tower though, because cell towers have their own purpose that precludes other uses.
Sensationalising is not wise and I am coming to the point that I believe you are not wise or are the Psych-ops agent you accuse others of being.
So Vic, what's the case?
Give us a clue."
That's quite a stretch Vic, even for you. ;)
at 16:23 on July 27th, 2009
HAHA, so you think agencies that are allowing your "slow kill genocide" would jump and protect you from threats over the internet? (which I didn't see anyway!)
Hmm... Jackhole, or Drama Queening Milquetoast......maybe we should vote on what's a better fit.
at 09:25 on July 27th, 2009
Because a cel phone is an inch from your brain. (and this damage is accumulative asuming several hours use a day for years).
A satellite is thousands of miles away.
Most grade schol children understand why you cannot listen to a NY radio station in Los Angeles. I guess Vic doesn't. "Wow, I could listen to this just fine at home in NY, how come I have to tune in a different channel out here? I don't get it.."
Why do you ask for proof of the obvious? We know directed energy weapons we know are in development, have a range of a few hundred meters or so. They do not have a range of 22,000 miles. I don't feel the need to prove this.
at 17:32 on July 28th, 2009
I don't respond much to this guy anymore, but I must note that GPS-type military satellites are only 220-240 miles up, last time I checked. Star Wars.
And cellphone towers with a multiplicity of antennae are springing up all over, notably, on municipal property adjacent to town halls and police stations. And they aren't 22,000 miles away, either.
This psy ops is so very lame. Yet someone thinks it's "mission critical" or he wouldn't post here, 24/7.
This does not speak well to America's ability to respond to REAL threats -- as opposed to torturing innocent citizens who have no interest in promoting a radical political agenda and just want to see the Constitution upheld.
Just who is running this clown show, and for how much longer?
I'd wish they'd worry as much about shoddy fasteners and toxic products being insinuated into America by China, America's most threatening enemy (IMHO).
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ShadowBroker (not verified)at 08:43 on July 24th, 2009
It's called eugenics.
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Elizabeth S (not verified)at 13:35 on July 25th, 2009
I have been a target of organized stalking for 15 years. When I realized that some very odd things were going on in my life, I began to document some of them. It was years before I discovered that there were names ("organized stalking" and several others) associated with what was happening to me. I finally wrote a book about my experiences. "My Life Changed Forever; The Years I Have Lost as a Target of Organized Stalking" by Elizabeth Sullivan is available on Amazon.com and on BuyBooksOnTheWeb.com.
I felt compelled to document my experiences for many reasons. In 15 years I have told very few people about what was happening. It is just too difficult for most people to accept or believe. I just recently found this website (Now Public) in my never ending search for the truth about organized stalking. I didn't talk about this very much in the book, but I am more and more convinced that a government organization is behind this. There is simply no other explanation. Although ordinary people have carried out much of my harassment, I believe there is probably an agency (or agencies) of our government running the whole thing. I just can't believe that a private individual or group of private individuals would spend the time, effort, and funds to do this for so long.
My best theory at this time is that someone turned my name in to this secret organization 15 years ago, and was able to collect a finder's fee for doing so. There has to be some sort of system in place for recruiting targets. It is a frightening thought.
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myname (not verified)at 17:36 on July 26th, 2009
If you have not been attacked by chemical and electronic weapons, you are more than lucky.
Count yourself as *not* a victim of these assaults, because they are assaults and not "harassment," as "harassment" is the usual disinformation by those that perpetrate these crimes.
Chemical and electronic attacks are assaults, not harassment. Harassment is a "big lie."
at 09:15 on July 27th, 2009
Whatever you wish to call what is happening to you, it is completely asinine and unproductive to accuse others of spreading "disinformation" or even being perpetrators of these crimes, simply because they call it something else- usually not even a name of their choosing.
If you are bitten by a mosquito every five minutes all day long, one person might call that harrassment, another might call them assaults, another maybe just an annoyance. I for one think it's pretty silly when someone wants to come along and say "these things are KILLING me" and after five years he's still alive. I refuse to sit back and take accusations of being a gov't agent by such a drama queening milquetoast. On the other hand maybe they have the power level turned up higher than my perps do, we should not assume our own personal experience could be the limits of what everyone else experiences- though when he called receiving little plastic keyboard feet damaged by UPS, the work of "tormenters" it pretty much confirmed the drama queening milquetoast thingy.
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myname (not verified)at 15:06 on July 27th, 2009
If you were talking to me "batvette," I was simply stating that to be stalked and "gas-lighted" is nothing like being constantly assaulted with chemical and electronic weapons.
Yes, her suffering is real for the "craft" she is receiving, but nothing compared to what I get every day.
Your descriptions of your situation barely scratches the surface of my daily experience, but I am one who *will* endure and ignore these assaults indefinitely.
at 16:05 on July 27th, 2009
My bad for the tone of the reply, it was more at Vic than you.
I don't think I've summarized all my experiences here in one place, but if I did I'm sure they wouldn't be much different than yours, (sans chemical poisoning, tho not sure) but I don't think we need to get into a "I've suffered more than YOU" pissing contest.
I think it might be said I've been unwilling so far to blame these people publicly for every thing I believe they've done, because I cannot prove they caused all of it. I have some serious health issues, one possibly life thereatening, that they might have caused.
Reason I did snap at you somewhat is because you did suggest if someone calls it something other than what you do, that could make them one of the perpetrators. Want to retract that?
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Anonymously Given (not verified)at 09:27 on July 28th, 2009
From my perspective (which admittedly is biased by my own particulars), the most negative effects that I observe are neither "gas lighting" related nor DEW related. I observe the most damaging activity to be simply the effective a`priori sabotage of anything that I might try to accomplish, via the surveillance, tracking, and stalking system. Unless we can manage a means by which to undo their surveillance capabilities, or at least to reduce the wanton misuse of same, we will remain flat as a pancake under the weight of the apparatus.
I found the article about community spying in Scotland to be most interesting. The government there apparently has admitted to conducting terrorist level "investigations", the whole stated purpose of which, was to gather "evidence" on a person suspected of smoking - CIGARETTES! Similar things are listed over 1200 times!
We cannot maintain individual freedoms (there is no other kind) for anyone or everyone, for very long within the framework of the surveillance, tracking, and gps-enabled stalking apparatus that has been set up in most western countries.
Want a quiet walk in the park? - can't have it.
Want a chance to engage in an honest job interview? - can't have it.
Want to pick your beans and carrots from the grocery shelf without annoying interferences? - can't do it.
Want a fair shake on an automobile repair? - can't get it.
The people who engage in "community stalking" are as much under the thumb as we are, but don't know it. Their every move is monitored too - has to be in order to facilitate the workings of the stalking apparatus.
Those persons simply aren't the beneficiary of the malevolent use of the apparatus against them - yet.
Yet. That is the pertinent element of my little assay that one might want to tuck away into the thought cache. Yet. It's coming eventually to all of us, including the stalkers. They are the lackeys who are priming the pumps, paving the way, for that day when the forecast of Eric Blair truly comes to fruition.
Come to think of it, that day has already passed.
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myname (not verified)at 14:24 on July 28th, 2009
quote AG - "Unless we can manage a means by which to undo their surveillance capabilities, or at least to reduce the wanton misuse of same, we will remain flat as a pancake under the weight of the apparatus."
Exactly.
*Nothing* else that is done could be done as well or at all without the surveillance capabilities *they* have imposed upon those involved.
at 16:59 on July 28th, 2009
Smoking cigarettes, eh?
You know I wonder if all this intrusive behaviour by both government and dudley do right citizens, is really a result of a lack of a good old fashioned, all out, fight for your nation's very survival war for the past 3 generations?
Not that I'm trivializing war's horrors or wish this upon us, but I think enduring such things really puts a perspective upon what is important and what is trivial, what we should expect the government to provide as far as "safety" for us, etc. I mean, if we had blackout conditions every night and bombs dropping and you wake up the next AM and crawl out of the bomb shelter and see a crater where the neighbor's house was, would we let anyone tell us we couldn't smoke?
Reminds me of the story of Sir Arthur T. Harris, marshall of the RAF and commander of the British bomber command from 1942 until the end of the war. Apparantly Harris was late to a meeting and speeding in his car across London, and was stopped by a policeman, who admonished him for his reckless driving, and said "Sir, you could have killed someone!"
"Bomber" Harris replied "young man, I kill thousands of people, every night!"
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myname (not verified)at 18:10 on July 28th, 2009
Quote from former post -"Reminds me of the story of Sir Arthur T. Harris, marshall of the RAF and commander of the British bomber command from 1942 until the end of the war. Apparently Harris was late to a meeting and speeding in his car across London, and was stopped by a policeman, who admonished him for his reckless driving, and said 'Sir, you could have killed someone!"
"Bomber" Harris replied "young man, I kill thousands of people, every night!"
I think this could put things into *perspective* for some, but may provide a justification for the "Dudley-do-rights" you have described.
Many of the stalkers assaulting me don't know what the INTERNET is and actual news is just another four letter word to them.
They want the simple monetary rewards offered by these stalking organizers.
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myname (not verified)at 16:00 on July 27th, 2009
Quote "batvette" - "Whatever you wish to call what is happening to you, it is completely asinine and unproductive to accuse others of spreading "disinformation" or even being perpetrators of these crimes, simply because they call it something else- usually not even a name of their choosing."
I did not accuse the poster of disinformation, I simply stated that the implications asserted by those that want to imply that actual assaults are just harassment is a lie.
I did not mean that *she said* and she did not say the same.
And I did not call her a "perpetrator."
Get a grip dude and cool out for a while, sounds like you need it.
at 16:15 on July 27th, 2009
What I was getting at is this:
they are assaults and not "harassment," as "harassment" is the usual disinformation by those that perpetrate these crimes.
In that if I was posting in here that the blast of heat I often feel on one side of my body, or the visual hallucinations that (I believe) they cause when I try to go to sleep, or the nauseus taste in my throat and sinuses that taste like burning flesh, were harrassment, does that imply you would believe I am a disinfo agent for the perps?
And what of the people with the "electronic harrassment" websites?
Again, the "drama queening milquetoast" comment wasn't toward you, sorry about that.
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myname (not verified)at 16:41 on July 27th, 2009
I believe what you say as I have had similar assaults.
My beliefs are that calling electronic assaults "harassment," *is* the primary ploy of "law enforcement agencies" involved in these *Crimes Against Humanity.*
I have heard this from "law enforcement pawns" as I reported these crimes.
It's simply a diversion from the fact of *assaults* as defined under the law.
No offence meant to you, as none is meant with any I reply to, "perps" excepted of course, I would like to offend as many of them as possible. ;)
at 00:08 on July 28th, 2009
Ah, the legal aspect of it, Hadn't considered that. Never mind.
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myname (not verified)at 16:26 on July 27th, 2009
And "batvette," you should note that she is "hawking a book for sale."
Is that a common "perp" trait?
Could be so.
at 00:07 on July 28th, 2009
I think it could be said they probably haven't sold too many copies, maybe the publisher hasn't even recouped the printing costs yet. Must be tough selling anything with ink on paper nowadays. In any case I would look at her mention as much as for benefit of all of us as it is shilling for a dime or two. I think it's commendable she went to the effort to do it.
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JuJu Eyeball (not verified)at 06:11 on July 28th, 2009
Batvette and myname are the same person having their little PsyOps dialogue. (Diagnosis: schizophrenia.) You sure earn your government money, Batvette.
at 08:43 on July 28th, 2009
And true intel pros are cringing. Think of the humint resources expended to conduct this witch-hunt. Who is minding the store? Who approved this "op"? Who is allowing this farcical miscarriage of justice to go on? What great "Multi-Agency Coordination Center" mind is behind all of this -- and when will D.C. take remedial action?
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myname (not verified)at 13:09 on July 28th, 2009
batvette and myname are are not the same poster.
Whoever *you* are, your "schizo" assertion reeks of scum-bag stalker trash.
Have a nice day.