GESTAPO USA: Gov't-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America

by Scrivener | October 6, 2008 at 09:38 am
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• Pervasive NSA surveillance of the public and journalists just baseline program for array of extrajudicial abuses -- organized community watch "gang stalking,"  financial expropriation, and "slow genocide" via silent, invisible microwave and laser radiation weapons and devices.

• Cell tower- based microwave/laser radiation weapon systems used to silently and covertly torture and impair "targeted" citizens.

• Congress:  Probe electromagnetic torture, impairment and terroristic vigilante harassment of unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans and their families.

• A cause of the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets?


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A virulent form of government-enabled domestic terrorism is destroying the lives of citizens across America.

Victims of so-called organized "gang stalking" or "community stalking" charge that the rule of law has broken down nationwide at the hands of state-supported vigilantes -- operating under the cover of citizen community policing and neighborhood watch corps and business-related anti-terrorism programs, supplemented by municipal workers and members of private and fraternal organizations.

A nationwide network comprised of these citizen groups, funded and apparently overseen by elements of government at multiple levels, is the mechanism of extrajudicial targeting and punishment that victims say is dispensing officially tolerated "vigilante justice" -- a bypass of the judicial system and the rule of law.

Many web sites in the U.S., Canada and other industrialized nations chronicle this horror. But victims say the tentacles of this domestic terrorism extend well beyond the so-called "street muscle" comprised of gang-stalking local vigilantes and self-styled soldiers of fortune.

Victims of this extrajudicial punishment network -- what some have termed "the torture matrix" -- maintain that its operatives are acting as judge, jury and executioner for what amounts to an evil shadow government.  So-called "targeted individuals" -- and by extension, entire families --  are subject to physical assault and psychological and physical harassment that victims say amounts to officially-sanctioned domestic torture.  Some victims have moved to other cities and towns seeking a safe harbor  -- but they say the persecution recurs in their new locale.

"It appears to be a nationwide network that attracts extremists as well as law-and-order types and people connected to public safety such as firefighters, utility workers, police auxiliaries, retired police and military officers, and even their family members, including children and teenagers," says one victim, who says he has been "gang stalked" for several years. "I doubt it could exist without some people in positions of power looking the other way."

Even some regular, uniformed police are reported to have been intimidated by this network of extrajudicial punishment --  described benignly by its defenders as a social "control" mechanism.

Victims say that they are physically harassed and relentlessly stalked, whether they travel on foot or in vehicles.  GPS devices are secreted in their cars or cell phones.  When a "target" enters a designated "node" area -- whether near or far -- the local vigilantes in that area receive a signal on their GPS or cellphone devices, often accompanied by a read-out of commands from the "team leader,"  specifying what kind of sadistic psychological terror and harassment to dish out. 

The stalkers then "swarm the target," whose GPS beacon shows up on their GPS device screens in a distinct pattern that stalkers call "the crown of evil" -- since they have been indoctrinated to believe that their prey are "terrorists"  or criminals or social deviates who have committed terrible acts.

The stalkers typically ride the target's bumper, drive recklessly or intrusively, causing near-accidents.  On foot, the stalkers approach their targets in public places such as stores or libraries.  They come ever closer, invading the target's personal space.  The intent: psychological intimidation, an attempt to provoke or fabricate a contrived confrontation -- so-called "street theater" -- that later can be used as "evidence" that the target is "mentally unstable."
 
Stalkers also surreptitiously enter their targets' homes and vandalize property,  from autos parked in garages to appliances, furnaces, plumbing systems, even personal items of clothing. The intruders play sadistic psychological mind games on their targets, such as rearranging or hiding their possessions -- what the gang stalkers call "gaslighting," after the classic Ingrid Bergman film in which an evil husband uses trickery and deception in an attempt to convince his wife that she is going crazy. (Like many gang stalking victims, she figures it out in the end.)

Targets of the "torture matrix" find their privacy is constantly invaded by way of pervasive surveillance of all electronic communications, which often are tampered with or altered in transit. Both video and audio "bugs" are planted in targets' supposedly private residences. 

Information gleaned from surveillance, such as details of private conversations, is funneled to the street stalkers -- who then repeat these "directed" comments within earshot of the target -- a form of psychological harassment intended to provoke anxiety and fear.

The sophistication of the surveillance leads victims to conclude that gang stalking is the local component of an expansive covert executive program of social control, physical harassment and torture overseen by federal military, security, intelligence and revenue agencies outside of the purview of Congress or the courts.

A host of government programs sold to Congress as "tools" with which to fight terrorism and drug trafficking are employed to destroy the financial well-being of targeted persons and their families. Victims report their mail is intercepted and financial accounts and billing statements are fabricated and altered.  In effect, targets and their families are covertly segregated into a parallel system of transaction processing established with the apparent cooperation of private companies.  Victims view this gradual expropriation of their personal wealth and the destruction of their ability to support themselves and their families as "social genocide."

"This financial exploitation and manipulation of our accounts and records fits the dictionary definition of fascism -- authoritarian bureaucrats working secretly with the private sector to neutralize and destroy people they regard as undesirable, or as 'dissidents' who may stand in their way," says one victim, a journalist who says his career, finances and physical health have been decimated.

Targets of this extrajudicial punishment network and their families also come under relentless physical assault, according to victim accounts, by way of hi-tech equipment such as "directed energy weapons" (D.E.W.) which emit silent bursts of radiation -- microwaves, x-rays, sonic frequencies, and scalar electromagnetic waves that produce variable amounts of precision-targeted energy when "triangulated" on a target.

The attacks are delivered via terrestrial and satellite electromagnetic energy, using "phased array" antenna systems installed on cell towers -- an offensive weapon system hiding in plain sight in neighborhoods and along highways nationwide. 

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwave-weapon

The "ray gun" of science fiction is now a reality of stealth warfare, and has been insidiously deployed as a means of government-imposed enslavement of civilian populations.

The government describes such weaponry as "non-lethal."  In fact, experts familiar with radiation weaponry say these devices can be used to torture, inflict bodily harm, induce illness, fatigue, weakness, excruciating pain and injury -- or to kill.

A 2006 video produced by the U.S. Air Force "Directed Energy Directorate" at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico discusses how such weaponry is designed to "accurately aim and put this energy on target with surgical precision." (Emphasis added).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSGprwJx_zs&NR=1

After six months of reporting in this space, the first crack in an official wall of silence regarding the wholesale deployment of radiation weapons came on Christmas Eve,  2008 -- and went largely unnoticed by the mainstream media. 

The magazine New Scientist reported: "The research arm of the U.S. Department of Justice is working on two portable non-lethal weapons that inflict pain from a distance using beams of laser light or microwaves, with the intention of putting them into the hands of police to subdue suspects."  
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16339-us-police-could-get-pain-beam-weapons.html

A recent article on the Wired.com magazine "Danger Room" blog site discusses a court document said to indicate that the U.S. Secret Service is involved in the development of directed energy weapons technology.  The article speculates that the agency may have deployed such devices in the course of its official duties.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/11/presidents-secr.html

In fact, say victims of government-supported extrajudicial punishment, radiation weapons and devices have been covertly used for years to harass, torture, and inflict pain and physical and mental incapacitation  -- with the number of anecdotal reports surging in the wake of 9/11 and the advent of the "war on terror."

Official confirmation of radiation weapons deployment comes despite a substantial body of medical research which indicates that human exposure to microwave, laser, and other forms of radiated energy can induce weakness, exhaustion, and behavioral changes; can cause strokes, aneurysms, cancer, eye damage and degraded vision; and can induce symptoms that mimic serious brain ailments such as Alzheimer's Disease and schizophrenia, with cognitive impairment that can result in temporary or permanent mental incapacitation, long-term physical disablement, even death.

http://www.slavery.org.uk/MicrowaveCongruenceSchiz.html

The April 2008 edition of the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin discusses the potential lethality of directed energy weapons and how such devices can be used to silently inflict serious injury or to induce harmful, potentially fatal, physiological effects:

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/april08leb.pdf

"This is torture that's happening right here, in American cities and towns," says an alleged victim.  "But it's like pre- World War II Germany; people refuse to believe that such abuses could happen in a civilized society.  But it is happening.  And I'm convinced that some local and federal authorities not only have knowledge of this extra-legal targeting, but are providing funding and direction.

"I know the FBI knows about it, because I've been down there several times over the past two years to report it."  He says he knows of no formal investigation, despite his offers to cooperate.

"I'm not saying they know of the worst abuses, such as using microwaves on targeted persons to degrade their health and make it impossible for them to earn a living.  But they must know that these citizen patrols are doing a lot more than just cruising around the neighborhood."

Citizens who have reported abuses say their complaints are typically ignored -- or that authorities insinuate their claims are figments of their imagination, or are a manifestation of a mental illness such as paranoia. 

"That appears to be part of the M-O," says one victim.  "You haven't done anything wrong, so they can't charge you with a crime.  So they attempt to make it look like you're crazy.  That's how they marginalize people who don't fit in with their world view."  The victim says it's possible that local law enforcement has been "co-opted" by a variation of "the big lie." 

"Higher-ups come in and say, 'We've identified this person as a threat.' What are they going to do? They're going to go with the program, especially since a lot of their funding comes from outside the community."

This victim believes the vigilante network is a convenient way for those in power to dispense with persons or groups of people they simply don't like or regard as undesirables, or whose political or social views do not hew to what they consider the established order.

Victims allege that the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets may have been worsened by these "programs of personal destruction," which they say are sapping the financial well-being of individuals and families without benefit of the right of due process.  Making available "easy credit" is a primary tool that puts targets and their families on the road to financial ruin, victims maintain.

Some wonder whether these extrajudicial programs didn't help spawn financial crises in the first place.  "We haven't had these kind of widespread financial woes for generations," a gang-stalking victim said.  "You have to wonder if these programs weren't a blueprint for an ideologically-motivated purge."

Officials at agencies looking into mortgage and credit market problems may have had long-standing knowledge of these programs, according to victims, who are calling on Congress to investigate.

"The issue of state-supported vigilantism and extrajudicial control and punishment represents an assault on our judicial system that makes Watergate look like the third-rate burglary that it started out to be," says one victim.   "Since government agencies appear to be involved in funding these programs, it's up to Congress to investigate, to use its powers of oversight to ensure that democracy and the rule of law prevails, not the law of the jungle."

The network of programs and policies that are circumventing the judicial system, violating constitutional rights and meting out vigilante justice might collectively be termed the mechanics of personal destruction -- a blueprint for political and social dominance crafted by those who would use the institutions of government as a tool of ideologically-driven social engineering.

This powerful apparatus appears to exist under the radar of most elected members of Congress and officers of the  judicial system.  They refuse to consider that these programs, over time, have adopted the of methodologies the East German Stasi, the KKK of the old South, and the Gestapo of the Nazi Third Reich -- and that the "targets" include innocent American citizens tagged by someone in a position of power as  a "troublemaker," perhaps a whistle-blower, a political "dissident" or falsely slandered as a "social deviate."

Victims say the rise of this "American Gestapo" represents the victory of neo-fascism over democracy -- achieved under the guise of "national security" and "keeping America safe."  They say that in the face of mounting evidence of widespread abuses, even those who identify themselves as liberals and progressives often naively insist that "it can't happen here."

Victims charge that extrajudicial targeting and punishment is destroying our democracy. They maintain that untold thousands, if not millions, of individuals and families are being irreparably harmed by this "social genocide." Some call it a "silent holocaust" due to its clandestine nature and the use of silent, invisible radiation weapons technology to achieve its horrific goals.

Below are links to articles about this clear and present danger to our constitutional democracy and to the lives and livelihoods of its citizens.  Victims urge lawmakers and congressional committees to start asking some tough questions, starting with the Department of Homeland Security and its security agencies; Defense, and its intelligence and weapons units; Justice, and its authorization of the widespread deployment of radiation weaponry to law enforcement; the various intelligence agencies; and the Treasury department, whose enforcement units apparently have been politicized by ideologues who have used the "war on terror" as cover for an ideologically-motivated campaign of social and political "cleansing."

Victims believe this cancer on American society runs deep, from the Washington bureaucracy to local law enforcement and public safety agencies. But they say the curative process must begin with firm, decisive and immediate action by the new administration before more Americans are damaged by this descent from the rule of law into home-grown fascism.

A FINAL NOTEThe author's communications and blog page are subject to persistent disruption and tampering by unknown hackers.  He would appreciate it if NowPublic.com readers would forward the links below to members of Congress and officials at ALCU.org, CCRjustice.org, or any other organization that can help restore American values to American governance and law enforcement. 

IF LINKS BELOW ARE BROKEN, PLEASE CONTACT NOWPUBLIC.COM ADMINISTRATORS VIA 'CONTACT' PAGE, EMAIL, PRIVATE MESSAGE, OR VIA 'COMMENT' TO A RELATED POST.

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-tortures-me-silent-microwave-weapons-ousted-s-prez

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR NowPublic.com/scrivener -- re: "Targeting of U.S. Citizens"/ "State-Supported Terrorism"/  "Domestic Torture" / Directed Energy Weapons"

This unaffiliated web site describes an alleged victim's account:

http://monarchnewphoenix.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-destroy-activist.html

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The underwriter's financial support would be publicly credited at the top and the bottom of each story.  To my knowledge, NowPublic.com does not share its advertising revenues with its editorial contributors.

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R.N.

Vic, "I'm the nurse you'll want at your bedside" (to correct my error), though you may not believe it.  It's worth repeating, anyway.  And because you've quoted scripture, from time to time, I find your remarks especially offensive. I'll offer this (not scripture):  "Be kind, for each person you meet is fighting a great battle."  Sadly, most of us have reached the point of not knowing friend from foe.  In the end, we give these lunatics just what they want -- division among us.

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Shemp

Look at the last paragraph of this page:

http://tinyurl.com/9vp77h

Curly Joe copied and pasted that entire paragraph into his comment (all but the first two sentences of the last paragraph).

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Curly Joe

What is going on here? Curly Joe is not a cop, but has has endured more than his share of secret community harassment and torture at the hands of his assigned secret cops. "Cops" being used as a euphemism for those who actively participate in this "war" as secret brownshirts and browbeaters.

It's not nice to call people crazy, you know. That is something that "they" do.

I know you are being polite, but it's not nice to call Curly Joe a shit monger (also known as a turd monger, or the asshole in a card game). That is also something that "they" do.

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Tortured

Curly Joe wrote: So, what's worse? A belligerent drunk who 'deserves their place in hell' or the belligerent cop who put 'em there?

Curly Joe, here is a question for you:

What's worse? A belligerent dissident who 'deserves their special place in hell' or the belligerent brownshirt who put 'em there?

or how about:

What's worse? A belligerent smoker who 'deserves their special place in hell' or the belligerent brownshirt who put 'em there?

or how about:

What's worse? A belligerent asocial who 'deserves their special place in hell' or the belligerent jackboot who put 'em there?

I could think of some more, if you wish.

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Scrivener

No offense intended.  If your post was not an example of NLP, you sure had me fooled.  In any event, I will continue to turn the other cheek and place my faith in the Lord and in the good people on the inside who've had enough of these dangerous games.

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myname

That comment "deserves their place in hell" looks like a death threat from whoever that was/is.

I know I've had many death threats in many creative ways from the "doers".

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Curly Joe

Cough. I overheard them discussing it, and they all agreed that I wasn't dangerous at all, in fact.

If you recognize their propaganda why would you believe it? They'll call victims crazy between the lines while denying the message is there at all. When they launch a smear, why would you believe that? If it were true, how would they know that and what would that imply?

And don't believe the guy that will say I copied all of this from http://tinyurl.com/9vp77h


http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~alb/ugly/update-6.30.99.html

Curly Joe

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Curly Joe

No, it was not meant as a death threat to anybody, and I am not a doer. It was simply a question, given the subject matter of extrajudicial torture.

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Shemp

Watch "Valkyrie" on Christmas Day? Meh. Bah, Valkyrie couldn't ever begin to match fine films like You Nazty Spy! (1940), its sequel, I’ll Never Heil Again (1941), Back From the Front
(1943), They Stooge to Conga (1943) and Higher Than a Kite (1943).

You Nazty Spy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9adsn2d25I

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davideasternsun

Seems like anonacom (not verified) is one of those yellow spineless weasesls that never had a date for the prom and now sits in a lonely NSA room with a bunch of other losers whose sole function in life is to discredit and disinform for a measely pay check...I'm sure he regularly masturbates to effigies of cheney, addinngton, rove and yoo on a regular basis...nice work if you are spineless enough to get it...

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davideasternsun

"Have a nice day, nurse Rachet"....was that you Vic, or anonacom messing with your post...why would you refer to a RN trying to help as "Nurse Ratchet"...beware the "anonacoms" as they are spineless NSA/CIA weasels...

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Scrivener

If either the NSA or the CIA or both is interested in me and wasting resources relentlessly stalking, harassing and torturing me for the past five years, this nation is in worse shape than I would have ever thought.  My most defiant political act has been voting Democratic.  I find it unimaginable that federal resources would be expended on a guy who did a sports business show for ten years, ending when I began to be stalked and continuously assaulted with DEW (assaults which continue).


If that's what's going on (and I still find it unfathomable), somebody's truly got a wrong number...  or is on a mission to destroy hard-digging investigative journalists...  or is looking for a patsy to play the victim in a hateful passion play.  Or maybe a combination...  whatever it is, it's pathetic, demonic, unconstitutional, and decidedly un-American.


Did I just hand some sadists their hate candy?



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Scrivener

If the NSA and/or CIA is wasting resources on someone like me, than our nation is in worse shape than I would have thought.  My most defiant political act has been voting Democratic.  Maybe my reporting prior to doing a sports business show for ten years was more impactful than I ever knew?  There is no logical answer because there's no justification for this... unless someone wanted to neutralize a damn good reporter.  They accomplished that goal five years ago... but that's apparently not enough...


As I stated elsewhere, the good people on the inside are tiring of these dangerous games... and they're also tiring of the people who think they don't exist.  Not everyone on the inside believes in torture, harassment and in defiling the Constitution of the U.S. It won't be long before the message is delivered.  Not too late to switch sides and get on the right side of the rule of law, fellas.

When I responded to the above post, my scribblings disappeared into the ether.  So let's try this one...


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anonacom

You know exactly who I am and I know who you are too.

You guys are always "verified" until it comes to crawling out into the light, where your facade can be seen for what it is.

You've told us who you are. It's clear that you can't handle the truth and have taken it down another level, the level where all you people belong.

Any knowledgeable reader that follows these threads can see through you..

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batvette

You know, for the sake of basic credibility, whenever I make an accusation in one of the political (and other) forums I argue in, such as calling someone a "liar", I generally don't do so without presenting the "lie" when I do so. Anything less just looks like an ankle biting personal attack.

But then that's just me, I know others have different standards to measure what credibility is.

Since you imply that there was something which made you SURE, I guess you won't mind sharing the evidence of this revelation which motivated the insult of labelling me a snitch, or "shit warmed over"?  

I can't help but be puzzled at the obvious contradiction in your supposed masterful assessment of the situation here.... am I skilled, or am I clueless?

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myname

I've heard all kinds of things from people I know of these "doers", telling them they were this or that.

What I first actually saw was a private investigator. This person was probably hired by a lawyer that was hired by the person that lied to authorities and used criminal connections to get this started.

The first thing this "investigator" did was start a bogus investigation by questioning all my business contacts, while other crooks worked in the background on my family and friends. Some of these crooks were arrested for other crimes in the area.

I didn't see what is being called the "community police", until after I had been worked on by hired "professionals" and crooks. And the crooks are still here.

After the "Brownshirts" appeared everything changed and became more consistent. That is when the assaults started to look like a perverted Nazi "government program".

It would be even more ridiculous if the leaders of the assaults against me are CIA, NSA etc. Because compared to the original poster VL, I barely exist.

I will add and I have said this before that friends around me said I was being "set up", but I know very little of what was actually done.

From what I have read, victims of this could have been labeled "internal threats" by anyone with connections that has a grudge or any reason. The original crooks probably got enough angry rants out of me to present to our "Brownshirt torture crews" to enroll me for destruction.

I've seen evidence of a lot of money being paid out to some in these crews and I know what I see around me is classic *corruption gone wild*.

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spooky2

Merry Christmas everyone.

This post should be here too, seems somehow appropriate this day:

William Hunter (not verified)

at 17:10 on October 26th, 2008

Christ quote: "Forgive them father, they know not what they do."

Christ knew people were stupid and easily sold out to evil over 2,000 years ago.

I spent the last 8 years of my life enduring this gang stalking bullsh*t. All I can say, is it caused me losses parallel to hurricane/typhoon/earthquake proportions in personal property and stress.

I can only believe with faith, that the perpetrators will bear spiritual horrors equal to and greater than those they needlessly brought into my life. At least I hope that happens...every minute of every day...

Suffer you evil pukes!

To a degree that it destroys EVERYTHING in your life...the same way you did it to me!

Amen!!!

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anonacom

I need to add your "ham-fisted" NLP batvette?

Quote "batvette" - "And this must be why their handlers have chosen them to be their soldiers, and for people like myself, Vic, and others, to die."

to die...to die...to die...to die...to die...he,he,he. :)

Talk about "full of it" NLP salesmanship. I'll take two, not. ;)

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anonacom

I know that you are absolutely not deluded and did not intend to assert such.

I am not and will never be deluded after years of abuse.

The "doers" don't have *permission* to harm or kill you, although what they do *is* torture.

Their weapons are chemical, radio and acoustic frequency weapons only.

How long is their leash? I don't know.

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anonacom

You can cry "garbage" and apply "spin" all you want.

These articles are revealing a truly *evil* "government program" that tortures innocent citizens, labeled "internal threats" by anyone with access.

There is no "due process", as guaranteed by our Constitution.

Today, the "Rule of law" is DEAD.

Fascists are ruling our lives, until we kick their ass to the curb.

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anonacom

Quote "batshit" - "obvious contradiction"... "supposed masterful assessment"...

Congratulations, you really, truly are, "full of shit".

You will remain clueless because what I know *myself*, is truly not, *your* business.

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Tfrom San Fran

Well well well, they are beginning to attack all creditable websites, I think voices of victims and the news have finally attracted their attention.... Revenge of the losers, hope Obama will put them where they belong.
My fliers to the general public.
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Read the investigative reports:..............................

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or google "gang stalking suicide"

Lastest news related to gang stalking from San Francisco Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/13/BA7Q14N5S6.DTL
http://sfcitizen.com/blog/2008/12/12/death-threats-force-san-franciscos-adamsblock-website-to-shut-down/

Please help us stop gang stalkers from pushing people in to committing suicide or mass killing.

Join us at FACEBOOK.COM OR MYSPACE.COM - search "gang stalking" and stop these criminals.

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We URGENTLY need new laws to protect the public from this fast growing criminal organization.

Help the victims from these organizations.

Prayer goes to May Zhou - a PHD Student at Stanford University, CA
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anonacom

Quote "Art_By_Alida" - "Just another conspiracy theory and you can't prove your sources. I emailed you to please give me some names so I could confirm your claims, but you couldn't do it."

You are not bad as a disinformation agent, but are typically the same as all others that live this scam, the scam that reality that we see, is not what we have seen, but what you tell us that it is.

I'm not *buying* and I bet there is a growing majority that won't *buy* either.

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antiShemp

Shemp, I guess "Nazis Stooges" have all the fun when *you* are one of them.

But then you have to *sell* yourself and the world on how you are improving humanity by committing genocide.

This isn't news, but in today's world, no sane person is buying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

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batvette

You seem to be going out of your way to go after my posts and attempt to paint me as some agent of disinformation, the "obvious" clues of which you won't elaborate upon. I post with the same handle all over the internet and have nothing to hide, if my real identity was something other than what I present you've plenty of opportunity to reveal it as so.

In the end if you think you're building a reputation of credibility by sowing the seeds of division, paranoia, and distrust, amongst those who wish to discuss this issue, you would IMO be wrong. If you're just a TI who believes everyone is a disinfo agent, please seek professional help before you further damage our cause by making the rest of us look like paranoid jerks.

An obvious clue to disinfo, in the relatively few cases you see it, is that they will add ridiculous embellishments to the accounts you tell, then stand back and mock their own embellished points as if they are yours. It's childish and not too intelligent but that is about all they are capable of. That is something to accuse someone of disinfo for, not alluding to empirical evidence you never seem willing to share with others.

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batvette

you say what he writes are merely his "claims" yet are trying to assure people that while Directed Energy Weapons have been in development for years now, using technology that dates back to the '60's and is no more difficult to put together than a common microwave oven.... they are NOT being manufactured and are NOT in the hands of anyone preying on people?

What a preposterous claim! Even if you actually believe yourself, how could you possibly have such knowledge? From what I understand many individual cases have been cited inb former Warsaw Pact countries of people settling scores with each other pointing converted microwave ovens at their neighbors. I was an avionics tech in the military, and my specialty was airborne radar systems. There is nothing particularly secret or high tech about any of this technology, you need a high voltage power supply, a magnetron klystron, and a waveguide to disperse and direct the output. As a matter of fact all this talk about "in development" is nothing but a smokescreen to delay public outrage over it, and to attempt to assuage our fears and make it appear they aren't in fact using it today. The only thing that's "cutting edge" about it is the higher operating frequencies of the new ADS "pain ray" which deems it safer as it doesn't deeply irradiate flesh. The ability to generate millimeter waves by a compact device is "relatively" new. (meaning DOD contracters were still doing it back in the '90's) (for reference "microwave" covers the frequency spectrum up to 30ghz. "Terahertz/millimeter waves" are from 30ghz-300ghz, all are radio frequency, or RF energy. Your home microwave oven operates at about 2.5 ghz, and can easily be converted by anyone with basic skills and tech tools into a deadly close range weapon)

I can get the parts on the internet in a short time to make a microwave pulse rifle that is far more lethal and powerful than what Vic's talking about, with a range of hundreds of yards. Government contractors like raytheon can make this stuff in their sleep.

Your assurances are foolish at best, dishonest is more likely. I don't know you so won't assume which is the case.

As for "see through" please google "through wall surveillance" and return when your knowledge is sufficient to offer accurate commentary. You're WAY out of the loop here.

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Alida Antonia Cornelius

If there were government agents zapping people with DEWs, I think they would have zapped Mr. Livingston as soon as he started posting about it...you know, to get rid of him for writing about their "secrets."

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Scrivener

The "zapping" started before I began posting about it, and continues to the present (last night, to be precise...)

Who actually activates the DEW devices -- a "principal" or a "contractor" or a duped citizen "mule" ...  those details may emerge as the reality of domestic torture via radiation weaponry comes to public attention.

But thank you again for your many, many, many protests and objections.  You do know what Shakespeare says about those who protest too much...

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justice7229

Read this book about how a person seeking to improve the world and stop corruption. . .well he gets arrested and put in federal prison. Rodney Stich details how it happened to him, and it was all through the courts done legally.  Piss off the wrong people, try to expose the crimes and corruptions in the world, and you may find yourself like Rodney, sitting in federal prison!  They even changed laws to get this guy in jail. . .and for what, a divorce law they where able to find, saying he owed money from 10 years ago!  Complete bullshit. . .but just think.   Yes if it happened to him it can happen to anyone. . .just like Scrivner said you will find yourself being marginalized quickly.

http://www.amazon.com/Unfriendly-Skies-Corruption-Rodney-Stich/dp/0932438024/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=IIP1RD2A5NXX0&colid=27RS2CK100IGY

 

Unfriendly Skies : Saga of Corruption (Paperback)

by Rodney Stich

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anonacom

Quote "batvette" - "You seem to be going out of your way to go after my posts and attempt to paint me as some agent of disinformation, the "obvious" clues of which you won't elaborate upon. I post with the same handle all over the internet and have nothing to hide, if my real identity was something other than what I present you've plenty of opportunity to reveal it as so"

Post who you really are and I will do the same. I will "bet" that you won't, or *you* will lie.

Quote "batvette" - "In the end if you think you're building a reputation of credibility by sowing the seeds of division, paranoia, and distrust, amongst those who wish to discuss this issue, you would IMO be wrong. If you're just a TI who believes everyone is a disinfo agent, please seek professional help before you further damage our cause by making the rest of us look like paranoid jerks."

Your assertion "seek professional help" is damning in it's self, implicating *you* as a participant in the "American Gestapo".

Quote "batvette" - An obvious clue to disinfo, in the relatively few cases you see it, is that they will add ridiculous embellishments to the accounts you tell, then stand back and mock their own embellished points as if they are yours. It's childish and not too intelligent but that is about all they are capable of. That is something to accuse someone of disinfo for, not alluding to empirical evidence you never seem willing to share with others.

The "embellishments" are yours along and anyone that reads these threads will know the truth, the truth that you bend to serve your "masters".

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