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• Due process denied, the Constitution discarded by "extra-legal control mechanism" said to resemble the KKK, the Stasi and the Nazi Gestapo
• A cause of the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets?
• When will Chertoff, McConnell, Mukasey, Mueller, Gates and Paulson take action?
NEW IN COMMENTS...
VIC LIVINGSTON'S PRAYER FOR THE 'DO-ERS'
A virulent form of "domestic terrorism" is destroying the rule of law in America.
Victims of so-called organized "gang stalking" or "community stalking" charge that the rule of law has broken down nationwide at the hands of state-supported vigilantes -- operating under the cover of citizen "volunteer" programs and various "service" corps.
Organized groups of private citizens, funded by elements of government at multiple levels, are the backbone of an "extra legal" control mechanism that its victims say is denying citizens their constitutional right of due process under the law. Victims of this extra-legal network maintain that these vigilantes are functioning outside the legal system as judge, jury and executioner -- meting out various forms of harassment and abuse. Victims call it "domestic terrorism" and they allege that their human rights are being violated.
Those who have been targeted by these groups say this vigilante militia is patrolling the streets, stalking and harassing, inflicting physical harm upon people who have been targeted by this extra-legal control mechanism. Some victims have moved to other cities and towns to escape the persecution -- but they say the vigilantism recurs in their new locale.
"It appears to be a nationwide network that attracts right-wing extremists as well as law and order types and people connected to public safety such as firefighters, police auxiliaries, retired police and military officers, and even their family members," says one victim, who says he has been "gang-stalked" for several years. "I doubt it could exist without some people in positions of power looking the other way."
Even some regular, uniformed police are reported to have been intimidated by this network of extra-legal control, using volunteer citizens as the "street muscle."
Victims say that in addition to being physically harassed, their property is being vandalized; their privacy is being invaded; their mail is intercepted, financial accounts and billing statements altered, family finances decimated; and their physical well-being has been compromised using hi-tech instruments such as "directed energy weapons" that emit silent bursts of radiation -- lasers, microwaves, x-rays, even sonic frequencies -- that can disable, main, induce illness or even kill.
"This is torture that's happening right here, in American cities and towns," says one alleged victim. "But it's like pre- World War II Germany; people refuse to believe that such abuses could happen in a civilized society. But it is happening. And I'm convinced that local and federal authorities not only have knowledge of this extra-legal targeting, but are providing funding and direction.
"I know the FBI knows about it, because I've been down there several times over the past two years to report it." He says he knows of no formal investigation, despite his offers to cooperate.
"I'm not saying they know of the worst abuses, such as using microwaves on targeted persons to degrade their health and make it impossible for them to earn a living. But they must know that these citizen patrols are doing a lot more than just cruising around the neighborhood. "
Citizens who have reported abuses say their complaints are typically ignored -- or that authorities insinuate that their claims are figments of their imagination, or are a manifestation of a mental illness such as paranoia.
"That appears to be part of the M-O," says one victim. "You haven't done anything wrong, so they can't charge you with a crime. So they attempt to make it look like you're crazy. That's how they marginalize people who don't fit in with their world view."
This victim believes the vigilante network is a convenient way for those in power to dispense with persons they simply don't like, or whose political or social views do not hew to what they regard as the established order.
Victims also believe that a network of government programs and agencies works in tandem with the extra-legal vigilante system to destroy their financial security. They allege that the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets may have been worsened by these programs, which they say are sapping the financial well-being of individuals and families without benefit of the right of due process.
Some victims wonder whether these extra-legal programs didn't create those financial crises in the first place. "We haven't had these kind of widespread financial woes for sixty years," a gang-stalking victim said. "You have to wonder if these programs weren't a blueprint for an ideologically-motivated purge."
Some of the agencies looking into the mortgage and credit market problems may have had long-standing knowledge of these programs, according to victims, who are calling on Congress to investigate.
"The issue of state-supported vigilantism and extra-legal control represents an assault on our judicial system that makes Watergate look like the third-rate burglary that it started out to be," says one gang-stalking victim. "Since government agencies appear to be involved in funding these programs, it's up to Congress to investigate, to use its powers of oversight to ensure that democracy and the rule of law prevails -- and not the law of the jungle."
President Clinton often talked about "the politics of personal destruction." Hillary Clinton warned against the "vast right-wing conspiracy," a concern she reaffirmed, albeit in milder descriptive language, in her autobiography, "Living History."
The network of programs and policies that are allegedly circumventing the judicial system, violating constitutional rights and meting out vigilante justice, might collectively be termed the MECHANICS of personal destruction.
I wonder aloud whether Bill and Hillary Clinton weren't trying to warn the rest of us about an evil that even the power of the presidency could not keep in check.
The entire electoral process is being marginalized, relegated to little more than window dressing, as true power is stolen away by a neo-fascist element that has found a way to seize the reins of power and authority. It is analogous to what John Dean called "a cancer" -- not just on the presidency, but on the entire body politic.
Amazing as it sounds, this powerful apparatus appears to exist under the radar of most elected members of Congress. Those who should know, perhaps they believe such programs exist to target "terrorists," so-called enemies of the state. They naively refuse to believe that these programs, over time, appear to have morphed into a vast system of extra-legal vigilante control not unlike the East German Stasi, the KKK of the old South, the Gestapo of the Nazi Third Reich -- and that these programs effectively deny innocent American citizens their constitutional rights.
This appears to be nothing less than neo-fascism under the guise of "national security" and "keeping America safe." And liberals and progressives, who arguably are represented among the targets of these programs, naively insist that "it can't happen here." Only the Libertarians seem to perceive the threat.
Whoever is elected the next president will inherit these programs. That person, if he learns of such programs, is likely to be told of their necessity and propriety -- that such an extra-legal control mechanism, employing citizen vigilantes and extra-legal programs targeting financial resources, can co-exist with democracy.
In fact, this extra-legal control mechanism is destroying our democracy; much damage already has been done. Individuals and families are being slowly destroyed. Some call it a "silent holocaust" due to its clandestine nature and the use of silent, invisible "directed energy" technology.
Below are links to the articles I've written about this imminent danger to our constitutional democracy. I urge lawmakers and congressional committee staffers to do some research, and start asking some tough questions, starting with the Department of Homeland Security:
"Mr. Chertoff, are you aware that many Americans believe they have been the victims of so-called community or gang stalking, possibly perpetrated by persons equipped and trained by federally funded volunteer programs under your charge? Have you heard of such reports, and are you investigating to ensure that these programs and their resources are not being misused?"
That would be a good place to start. I believe it goes much broader and deeper; but the curative process must begin before more Americans are seriously damaged by this descent from the rule of law to the nihilist rule of the jungle.
A FINAL NOTE: My communications and my blog page are subject to persistent disruption and tampering by unknown hackers. I would appreciate it if NowPublic.com readers would forward the links below to people you know at the ALCU.org, CCRjustice.org, or any other group that could help. I can't do this alone; and I have put myself at some risk already.
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at 04:43 on August 13th, 2008
How would any layman, without expensive sophisticated equipment, be able to detect "a release of biologicals"?
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at 17:06 on August 12th, 2008
Have you heard of the D'Souza family? They have some kind of instruments that can record microwave energy in their house and have proven they are under direct attack. I have done the same. I know what I am getting is microwave but I do not know yet if anything else might be involved. I can't open those links myname posted.
You refer to right-wing extremists. They do not ordinarily like to mess with other right-wingers, even if they're not anywhere near as far right as they are. It's lefties they despise. People I've talked to say that, from the data they've managed to collect, it appears that TIs are typically political dissenters of some kind or another, Leftist dissenters. It's almost unheard of for a Republican to be targeted, unless he or she is not towing the line and an example has to be made. It's hard to establish reliable statistics yet of course. It think it's newsworthy in the TI community that a loyal Republican has been targeted for enhanced weapons testing, or whatever the hell is going on.
at 18:53 on August 12th, 2008
wouldn't a right-wing extremist also be a "dissenter"? Neurolinguistically speaking I find your comments noteworthy.
at 20:31 on August 12th, 2008
You were the one who introduced the theory of "right-wing extremists." You might tell us what you mean by it. What do you think they are dissenting against, and why would they see you as someone who deserves to be persecuted? To say they're right-wing extremists suggests that they're more motivated by ideology than monetary payment. If that is so, it would seem that they believe persecuting you is in line with their ideology. As in all political extremism, there are various factions.
at 14:53 on August 13th, 2008
GRAVITAS WROTE:
"As in all political extremism, there are various factions."
BLOGGER REPLIES:
What's yours?
at 17:43 on August 13th, 2008
That begs the question, does it not? A fallacy in any discussion, but I will nonethess answer it. Seeing that I'm not a political extremist, I could hardly belong to a faction of political extremism. As I said before, you are the one who brought up the issue of "right-wing extremists." I myself have not experienced visits by a death squad (when they implicitly or explicity threaten your life they are anything but "gang stalkers," they are terrorist squads), but someone I know has, and in fact was able to identify at least one of her abusers as not a "neonazi," but someone who at least claimed of nazi bloodline (or maybe that's just a popular trend these days). My friend could be fairly described as a progressive and a human rights activist, but not an extremist of any kind either. Personally, I stay away from all extremists. By definition they believe in using violence to change the sociopolitical order, which never results in anything good, except in cases like the American Revolution and other colonial struggles for independence. You never did answer my question.
at 05:52 on August 14th, 2008
gravitas wrote - "...terrorist squads..."
That is a more accurate description of what I see. But I see two completely different sides, the "I'm a duped citizen" side and the "I am a professional crook" side.
I have never been politically active in any way.
I was told and have seen enough evidence to know that my tormentors are paid or given things in exchange for their "work"(if you can call it work).
at 13:49 on August 14th, 2008
If being politically active and speaking out was all it takes to get these "domestic terrorist squads" after you, this lady and many others would be on their "list".
http://www.heatherwokusch.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&
sid=35
And I was told that "maybe it's a government experiment" by someone of authority and there is human experimentation.
Well, I don't buy the "experimentation" thing either in the case of these assaults. They intend great harm and destruction to their victims.
at 13:49 on August 14th, 2008
If being politically active and speaking out was all it takes to get these "domestic terrorist squads" after you, this lady and many others would be on their "list".
http://www.heatherwokusch.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&
sid=35
And I was told that "maybe it's a government experiment" by someone of authority and there is human experimentation.
Well, I don't buy the "experimentation" thing either in the case of these assaults. They intend great harm and destruction to their victims.
at 21:35 on August 14th, 2008
Myname: Frankly, I don't get the connection either. She was subjected to the squad attacks, personal sabotage of her life, but not the DEW. Maybe they're unconnected programs. The DEW attacks do smack of weapons experimentation. With the this government's watch list at over a mllion now and growing by by what some say is 20,000/mo., with Homeland Security the monstrosity that it is, military-industrial complex out of control, and everything becoming privatized, it's little wonder that we're seeing an quickening march toward a fascist state. I'm going to check on your link. My friend was overseas, in Australia, when she was targeted for hate crimes everywhere she went. Horrible stuff, which included killing her pets. Why would the FBI be in on activities like that here, as some people say (I don't recall now if you've said that)?
at 22:00 on August 14th, 2008
Thanks for the link. I had not heard of Ms. Wokusch. I see what you mean, and yes, I agree, but I understand one theory is that having a more public persona can be protection. They're less likely to target someone with a higher profile with credibility, because the public would be much more likely to believe him or her. Some also say that someone can put someone on a list for no particular reason. I can't say that I get it at all, except there's a lot of sadism involved. The person enjoying power over others doesn't necessarily have to have to have the personal acknowledgment of his victim to derive pleasure from it, as in the peeping Tom. The people participating in this are all depraved. I think there are a variety of reasons, and if someone wants to retaliate against someone there are criminal subcontractors willing to do it. But I'm more interested in hearing your thoughts, since I'm obviously clueless.
at 10:35 on August 15th, 2008
Voces estão fora do serio - mesmo.
at 16:39 on August 15th, 2008
I'd direct my suspicions at the local police department if I were you and also local political party hacks. I do know what you are talking about (as long as you are on the level and not suffering delusions). This has actually been overt enough in my case that other people have noticed and asked me "who is that" and "what is going on". I don't think this is quite as widespread as you think, I think the illusion of power is power and yet another tool to use in psychological warfare. I think these folks make good use of whisper campaigns to make their numbers look far greater than they are, if someone lies behind your back to a stranger or group of strangers, how can you defend yourself? Think about it. This isn't so simplistic as being a right or left wing thing, it feels more like some sort of sport to me, like the games at the Coliseum.
If you endlessly theorize you will drive yourself nuts (which is one of the objectives I think), stick to the facts, don't talk too much, and don't let yourself get isolated. See if you can arrange for other people to witness what is happening, don't tell them, just let them use their own senses. If other people notice without being told than you can assume that you are not in need of the services of a mental health professional, if not than you might be.
Personally, I intend to beat their sorry asses!
at 23:22 on August 15th, 2008
Good for you! Fascinating perspective, and great pointers. I'll pass them along. But I have to say that some of the attacks and tricks are more dangerous than others.
at 23:37 on August 15th, 2008
By the way, I just read end messages of http://www.nowpublic.com/world/scriveners-screed-opinion-you-idol-worship-your-civil-liberties-are-being-stolen-now-its-time-fight-democracy?page=1. Our not-so-friendly host is undoubtedly a Cointelpro-type agent. Talk to ya someplace else. Best to ya. Beat every one of their very sorry asses!
at 04:09 on August 16th, 2008
Whatever Gravitas, some attacks are more dangerous than others, that is why it is of vital importance to not allow yourself to look like a nut, if you are regarded as a nut then these folks have far greater latitude in what they can do to you, you have to pay attention to how you are perceived and you cannot isolate. I'd be dead of a "drug overdose" if I hadn't have figured that one out real quick. What these people are doing is illegal, there are laws against harassment so they have to discredit you first so that other people will pay no attention to your plight.
Another thing, the ones I've dealt with have largely been deeply embedded in the local democratic party machine (but have claimed to be republicans) I've heard horror stories from both parties, so I think this is a feature of machine politics and also probably an unintended consequence of lowering standards with respect to the military and law enforcement. Now that I think on it, there's probably a buck or two to be made here, time to go back to school, I smell an emerging cottage industry!
at 04:32 on August 16th, 2008
I'm smell something too, well no, I think I'm wading through something that is currently about waist deep.
at 09:37 on August 16th, 2008
Keeping spewing. You reveal yourselves and your motives with each invective.
I do hope the higher-ups are watching.
at 14:48 on August 16th, 2008
Somebody really should put together a manual of helpful hints or form a support group or something. One thing I discovered is that if you wind up with short term memory loss due to being subjected to prolonged severe stress you can reverse it by taking Omega 3 (I took medical grade fish oils from Japan, three caps three times a day). If anyone has any helpful hints regarding the cortisol thing I'd be deeply appreciative, so far I get that no meat late in the day and yoga are good things.
at 08:41 on August 17th, 2008
More than likely I look like a loon at this point but on the off chance that some other poor schmuck is reading this, the writings of a philosopher named Epictetus are also remarkably helpful. He was a slave who worked in Nero's household, truly the workplace from hell, and his thoughts are as applicable today as they were when they were scribbled down by one of his pupils.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epictetus
at 16:50 on August 29th, 2008
who higher-ups? i do not know this one
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at 21:39 on September 6th, 2008
SOME CONCLUSIONS FROM VIC LIVINGSTON
FIVE WEEKS AFTER THIS ARTICLE WAS FIRST POSTED...
AND A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THE 'DO-ERS'
It appears that gang stalking and domestic terrorism that tortures American citizens outside the bounds of the law is committed by a nationwide network of vigilantes, many of them affiliated with government-funded community policing and neighborhood watch programs, fire and ambulance squads, fraternal organizations, etc. and apparently with the knowledge of persons working in official capacity for various government agencies, civilian, military and law enforcement, on multiple levels.
This network appears to be used as a tool of extra-legal control and persecution of those who are deemed a threat to the anti-democratic and authoritarian ideology they seek to impose on America, and for that matter, the world.
The "real criminals" who rob, steal and assault and kill are processed though the judicial system. The "special enemies" get the gang-stalking and the domestic terrorism, including radiation weapons assault that results in physical harm, illness, and eventually, death.
So these are "death squads." In American 2008.
I come to this conclusion based upon what has been happening to me for nearly the past five years. When posters, above, say "why would government do this?" I am not saying government people are the "doers." I am saying that from circumstantial evidence and personal experience, based on the vehicles used to stalk me, the constant surveillance of all types, the use of directed energy weapons (they are really RADIATION energy weapons), and the reluctance of federal and local law enforcement to open a formal investigation despite my repeated requests, it appears that government, its resources, and personnel are aware of and involved in this activity to varying degrees.
I have sought justice for nearly five years and continue to be under physical assault, and I believe my family is suffering as well. My communications have been subject to not only surveillance, but interception and alteration. These programs have denied me the right to earn a living and have diminished the quality of my life and the state of my health.
This is slow genocide, a monstrous crime against humanity, and I believe some of the posters above not only know it, but take sadistic delight in it.
I ask them when they go to church on Sunday, to ask themselves, "What would Jesus say?" Especially since Jesus endured the same sort of treatment at the hands of the Romans.
Those engaged in this activity are felons and traitors who are guilty of crimes against the United States, humanity, and God. Shame on you and may God have mercy on your depraved souls.
When you pray, remember my words. That is my "neurolinguistic" wish.
And those who read the posts probably are smart enough to separate the truthful posts from the purposeful, determined and sadistic and harassing disinformation here.
Have a nice day, and please think of me, my family and your other victims in your prayers.
at 03:36 on October 29th, 2008
As any victim of government sponsored directed energy weapons torture and psychological attacks (including community policing based “gang-stalking”) is well aware, one of the greatest challenges we face is maintaining self control. The daily barrage of humiliating actions we undergo are designed to provoke us, luring us into self-destructive behavior. Like a skilled tightrope walker, we must cultivate self-control. Indeed, our very survival is dependent on staying in firm control of our emotions and actions. That can be a challenge, as the desire to retaliate in some way may at times seem overpowering. To counter such ill-advised thinking, we may need to adjust our attitude and view self-control as the superior response, a facet of our true inner strength.
Read more at <a href="http://www.badexperiment.com">http://www.badexperiment.com</a>
at 20:39 on December 27th, 2008
Your post emphasizing a need to impose "control" (self-control, or control imposed upon an individual?) reminds me of that old song:
"It's my party and I'll cry if I want to... you would cry too, if it happened to you."'
Have a nice day, "bad experiment."
at 21:10 on December 27th, 2008
Thanks for the laugh on "Mr Bad NLP Directed Conversation Experiment".
Rolling on the floor too. ;)
at 19:14 on January 29th, 2009
This is happening to me.
I created Children Speak Tsunami - a non profit for children- it appeared at the Bush 41 library. I was then accused of using the venue for my own advantage. Though I contacted washington and the Library this has not stopped. i have lost 200,000 in 2 years, and have not been allowed to stayin an appartment with a hotel as prison shifted from hotel to hotel subject to calls and accusations of prostitution.
I traveled to the mid east and went to a documentary film festival and hence labeled Un American with this kind of torture to teach me. Teams of people 10-20 run programs on me. Entire towns are enrolle for a sport against the American.
I am traumatized to the point of death. They are just waiting for it to happen.
A
at 09:36 on April 10th, 2009
Hello All,
I want you all to know this: your testimony helps other victims beyond measure. You are doing the Lord's work, and your sufferings are not in vain. I was being harassed with low-frequency microwave weapons, constant recorded noises projected throughout my apartment, and organized stalking on streets and in restaurants. Through reading others' stories on the net, I learned what I was up against; and through prayer I was delivered. I was an atheist before this experience. I tried everything I could think of to combat it. Nothing helped until I opened the door to Jesus Christ. That is the Truth.
Please be certain of this: God's hand is all-powerful. After reading through the comments here from people who are experiencing what I experienced (and worse), I feel the need to help in any way possible. I'm praying for you, and praying for guidance as to how I can help you (if that is God's will for me). We have to be "wise as serpents and gentle as doves" when combatting evil.
The perps--who work for the devil whether they know it or not--will surely suffer for their wickedness in this world and the next; but we can't harbor hatred toward them. We have to pray for their salvation, and pray that their network of evil will be exposed to the world (Ephesians 5:11). They work in darkness. That is what spawned their self-righteousness, depravity, and hatred. The good people of the world will be horrified when this diabolical wickedness is exposed to God's light. "Who would do such a thing?", they will ask. Only children of the devil would do what they do, and only God can save us from this evil.
God bless you all
at 19:03 on May 1st, 2009
Dear Vic,
We are planning a class-action suit against law enforcement in California and/or any other states we can bring in. If you are interested in brain-storming this please call. We have already begun the brainstorming and have 2 interested people. Will fill you in on more of our ideas when you call. Any TI's that are interested in working towards doing this and want to invest some time, feel free to call. We will make it easy and fun and do conference calls. Good networking too.
Cathy Meadows
707-720-7137
at 08:14 on May 2nd, 2009
Dear Cathy, I am on the east coast (CT) and am interested. My son and I were gangstalked on a cross country trip we took summer of 2006. I am still being stalked and harrassed by the initiator of the gangstalking (all signs point to my late parents' probate attorney,)
I filed an attorney grievance. Well, I have been stuck living in a homeless shelter here in one of the most expensive areas of the country (Fairfield County CT.) The house left to me by my parents was sold out from under me; the attorney committed numerous other infractions. My son had enough, he went ahead and sold beach property belonging to both of us without my approval or knowledge. I've not seen him nor talked to him since October of 2006. He tells people I am deceased or in jail. He's up in Maine where his dad lives. On 1/1/2009 the attorney paid an intruder to enter the shelter, bypass the security system, and steal 2 years of work out of my locked locker. This gave the attorney a huge "headstart" on how to respond, and also severely compromised my grievance. Now I have to look for an attorney who will take my case- pro bono---Not likely.
at 15:09 on May 3rd, 2009
Dear Lady,
How old is your child and are you still with him?
Sounds like your brother made out too.
You need to take your brother to court first and get your share. I just counseled a guy who's sister did the same with their late father's home and he is taking his sis to court.
Cathy