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by batvette | January 11, 2011 at 04:41 am
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Lacking a better name, this is the one I've arrived at which best fits.
It is in the experimentation stage, I believe. Its awareness of your activities is real time. Its response within seconds.
Organized Stalking is not as widespread as many think, the inventors of the God Machine use it to distract.
I believe we are still in a period of experimentation and refinement of these processes, because (as many of us have posited) from a standpoint of personnel and resources, what we are now observing is very wasteful and for a "command and control" system would be unsustainable, as it amounts to the many having to control the few.
Yet this is merely because it is being tested and perfected, when that is complete it will become a case of a few being able to control the many.
Finally my statements about OS being a cover may offend and alienate some TI's but here is some sound and I believe irrefutable logic towards that.
Who is really bothered or annoyed by these on a long list of claimed tactics inherent to a case of Organized Stalking?
Keys being "jangled" or pens being "clicked" by strangers as you walk by them.
An abnormal concentration of certain colored clothing worn by strangers or cars being driven in your vicinity.
Perceptions that sounds in an urban area (horns honking, engines running, construction noise) are unusual and/or meant just for you.
The belief that harmful rumours may be circulating about you without actual disclosure by reliable confidantes (with a chain leading to the source) that said information was really being repeated.
The belief that people around you in stores were put there on purpose just to annoy you solely by being in your presence. (and similar scenarios which all add up to being uncomfortable just because other people are around you)
Now take a look at those examples. Whether each was actually occurring or not, a person of sound mind would never, ever, experience torment as a result, would not be "ruined" by them in sum or part, and in fact would not only never even notice their occurance, would laugh off and ridicule alleged perpetrators for even thinking it would.
(that's the irrefutable logic part- a program solely employing those tactics could never harm a person of sound mind- they wouldn't even notice)
Yet every single one of those items is an event a person suffering from Schizophrenia experiences every day, because the chemical processes going on in their mind cause sensitivity to light and sound, a feeling of being uncomfortable around others, and a racing mind which sees patterens where none actually exist. .
So what better way to provide a coverup for a program of illegal experimentation, than to attach to it a perfect suite of "tactics" which would fit what a group of people experience every day and will grasp it wholesale as an explanation, with this group's label offering a stigma to discredit those in your program?
Moreover, EVERY sane person is liable to experience short bouts of paranoia, especially if triggered by real events causing fear. If their EH devices cause a neurological process invoking fear it is then easy for the person of sound mind to believe all the trivial "tactics" are really happening as well.
So they wouldn't need gangs of people stalking people all over the place. They could employ ONE redneck in one pickup truck with a real and obvious stalking episode, which caused your fear to raise to heightened levels and you then spend hours looking at every vehicle you came near and assuming the worst. The EH system could be employed to sustain that for days or even weeks on end, with the belief system you've adopted that gangstalking was practiced by hundreds of thousands nationwide, further compounding this.
The way the human mind works, and I mean the sane one, it's easy to see a deeper or nefarious meaning to any trivial event if you are searching for one.
In the end I am not going to posit this theory with the insistence that accepting it requires anyone admit they are Schizophrenic. If going over the above list of tactics causes anyone to conclude they would be deeply disturbed by such things in their day, they may have to confront this eventually. However it is healthy for us and our cause to recognize the difference between "tactics" which would really cause ruin in a normal person and those which they would laugh off and never take seriously.
If you've been "educated" that you are to expect a laundry list of mundane events to terrorize you, you WILL be terrorized by mundane events in your day.
What better way to run interference for a program of illegal experimentation, than to convince people into terrorizing themselves?
One of the reasons I am personally lashing out at a lot of these, IMO, false tactics, is that when I concluded most of the strange events added up to some kind of program and went on the internet to research it, I found information on sites by hopefully well meaning activists, "educating me" about these things, including hearing single horn honks by strange cars at random intervals- just to let me know they were out there in force and the "program" would never give me any slack.
Sure enough I started to notice them and for months I was on pins and needles, jumping every time I heard one, sometimes looking out the window hoping to identify them. I was starting to become a nervous wreck. Since I live near a city park with a large parking lot in view of my backyard I started to notice almost all the horn honks were from people leaving their cars- always near new cars. Just a bit of research found that most new cars nowadays, except the economy models, have keyless entry security systems which auto arm when you leave the proximity of the vehicle. This arming is confirmed, on most cars with this feature, by a single horn honk with no manual effort by the owner. In fact if they want to disable the horn alert they need to pore through the manual and find the instructions how to do reprogram the key fob transmitter- and who does that?
So as it turns out oh, pick any wild figure you like, 1 in 5 cars on the road less than 3 years old had the potential to terrorize me simply by having its owner get out and walk away.
I'm not sure how these silly ideas got started but that's of little importance because they are out there. It's done. I recently approached a prominent activist I thought I knew as wise and trustworthy on this issue, in a relevant article (he used that exact tactic of the horn honk, and others even more doubtful- "strategically placed pieces of garbage"-WTF? Patterns of cars, sequences of numbers on their license plates... most of which are absurd)
This activist not only refused to post the initial reply detailing the horn honk fallacy, he proceeded to edit my comments- no ad hominem attacks or racy language- into a vehicle to discredit me for even daring to question the obvious disinfo he was repeating.
One can only wonder why a person would resist a logical process which could reduce the number of things used to terrorize a person every day.
In summary it may seem that the point is to accuse the reader of being schizophrenic, or doubt the program exists. Not the case at all, but it shouldn't need further explanation that if we are recruiting schizophrenics to join us we aren't helping them OR us.
I reach out to other TI's to glean answers and take action to end this if we can. You will see many who feel the community is for support and understanding. I think the two philosophies may be mutually exclusive.
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at 04:47 on January 11th, 2011
Reference my previous stories for further description. My awareness of the big picture is maturing and I am in danger at this point but need to publish what I believe is unfolding.
Organized Stalking, while occuring in some cases, has been inflated and engineered to provide interference for the real program- a mind control technology to monitor and terrorize citizens in real time.
They provided disinformation about OS which mirror the symptoms of schizophrenia, to get schizophrenics to join the people they are experimenting on to discredit the whole issue.
at 19:58 on February 8th, 2011
(this comment condensed and inserted into the article where it belonged)
at 11:22 on January 11th, 2011
batvette, I believe most 'electronic' gang stalked victims today can relate to the issue you present.
In your previous article you mentioned the electronic attack feeling like
"vibrations which seem to vary by human control depending on my behaviour, doing something they don't like"..
This actually isn't by human control, but an advanced computer harassment/torture program that is running on you every second and minute ( and many (TI's). actually ) This 'electronic gang stalking program' known as 'Remote Neural Monitoring' (RNM) is separate and in addition with the specific gang stalking activities you are experiencing around you. It is happening to many of us today.
They are correlating this 'electronic attack' with spying, surveillance and a harassment/torture agenda that is a specific program run protocol. This actually has been termed a 'Massive Electronic Attack Nightmare' (MEAN) attack.
It is a highly coordinated and technically sophisticated government level run program of multiple levels of law enforcement, community activist, government security agency electronic attack, spying, surveillance, mind control, and psychological manipulation within physical and mind torture protocol programs.
Gang stalkers are not allowed to make direct contact or directly physically abuse any TI that I've heard of. So don't freak out over them attacking you physically. This is more about mind games, mind control objectives, and psychological torture gang stalking attack.
I assume you are experiencing some specific amount of sleep deprivation also. This is common and part of the program.
This electronic attack program seems to repeat on a weekly basis, experiencing, for example, the same effects every Tuesday as the previous Tuesday; every Sunday as the previous Sunday etc. That way you know it is a computer program actually attacking you.
at 09:32 on January 13th, 2011
"This electronic attack program seems to repeat on a weekly basis, experiencing, for example, the same effects every Tuesday as the previous Tuesday; every Sunday as the previous Sunday etc. That way you know it is a computer program actually attacking you."
Exactly. They also coordinate specific psychological street theater attacks not only over weeks, but over years of time.
Without getting specific, as I wish to maintain some anonymity, a precise and very specific event was staged and acted out for me again - directed solely to me.
This very specific "street theater" event has occurred once a year for the last several years at precisely the same moment in time that certain events are unfolding.
I've also experienced specific "street theater" events re-enacted as matched to specific location patterns only, independent of a time pattern.
Only a computer program, combined with meticulous record-keeping, could co-ordinate specific events to patterns in a manner such as this. It's far beyond the realm of chance.
at 09:55 on January 13th, 2011
Withouit attempting to imply anything personal toward you or what you may be experiencing, I will say what you are alluding to supports a position I stated above: only a schizophrenic mind would even notice such an elaborate or precise pattern that would require a computer to coordinate.
Who on earth stops, when something happens to them, and recalls instantly what they were doing one year ago to the day and minute what they were doing? Do you recall what you were doing one year ago today, within an hour's time?
Would it bother the average person- would they even notice, that a scenario played out a year later to the day and hour, and not a day or week later?
What is the harm of the street theatre- was it the street theatre's results itself, or the fact that the scenario repeated a year (or week) later?
If you really believe this, and especially if it's that last point....
that isn't good. normal people don't think that way.
at 23:35 on March 31st, 2011
Quote poster - "only a schizophrenic mind would even notice such an elaborate or precise pattern that would require a computer to coordinate.'
Actual genetic or possible viral induced "schizophrenics" are completely dysfunctional on almost all levels. *They* are not discerning any patterns and their memories are usually nonexistent.
*Schizophrenics* are not surfing the internet discussing anything. *They* cannot even take care of themselves including feeding or any personal hygiene.
The labeling by so-called government agencies of whistle blowers, witnesses against whoever, fictitious enemies of the state and experimental subjects as "schizophrenic," has been and is a pattern of behavior that has been well documented.
at 10:19 on January 13th, 2011
Batvette, normal people don't act that way. Average people don't act out specific scenarios for a specific person's benefit - they have ulterior motives for performing these activities.
Would an average normal person engage in such covert activities?
These are cunning psychological attacks, precisely crafted and controlled. The acts are intentionally crafted to be plausibly denied as something else. They are crafted to make the target appear as a schizophrenic. I am calling it as I see it.
Normal people do not do such things.
at 16:59 on January 13th, 2011
A normal person can not be made to appear schizophrenic.
A normal person is not tormented or would even notice "patterns".
Of course a group staging an event once a year just to mess with someone's head would be nutty, that's NOT the point.
The point is if they did all that to a normal person the normal person would not even remember what they were doing a year ago. It would only be noticed by a schizophrenic.
It is clear if you insist on this occurring you are in fact suffering from "issues" and the way you present the point is that crazy people are engaged in a program putting on street theatre against normal people and this makes them crazy.
thus you can present yourself as normal, as well as anyone else describing similar events.
the program is working. this sucks because you're doing this for sake of vanity, and you want anything but for this program to end.
I'm sure you willl hate me for this but if I am wrong, tell me what harm came to you- how were you ruined, by witnessing an event twice in 365 days? did it cause a mental trauma?
I will accept being the villain of the TI community if necessary, because schizophrenics are going to perpetuate this problem forever. as you display here, you cannot see that what you are complaining about is just silly, and their activism ends up making the public think the community is all silly people.
Go ahead, hate on me. I calls em like I sees em. I have my opinions, they may be wrong.
You will never, ever, catch me lying to support them.
at 19:57 on January 13th, 2011
Illogical. Fail.
at 01:00 on January 14th, 2011
again, pattern based tactics are what is not logical because only the schizophrenic mind will notice them- and of course normal people don't do these things, the fact is except in rare more basic scenarios they probably aren't happening at all.
You know why else this is silly?
You could expect the next sequence in the pattern, record or document or even arrest them in the act.
I will again ask, what about a pattern based tactic is supposed to harm the TI? The fact he knows there is a pattern so knows he's in a program of torment and that alone will drive him to ruin?
And we wonder why these issues are not taken seriously by the public?
Let me invite everyone in to pile on the hate. Maybe a few of you will come around to more rational conclusions behind your experiences.
I certainly wish what is going on with me could be solved by a slap of reality or a couple of pills a day. (don't take that too bluntly, I DO understand the downside of prescriptions for treatment and do not wish this on anyone- )however if we want to get down and dirty I can provide quite a few accounts of TIs who clearly are not TI's and their adopting our problem just to find validity for their own issues is causing grave harm to ever seeing an end to this.
The first sign a TI might be a "wannabe" is probably a strong refusal to consider anyone, let alone them, might be a wannabe.- but this is why I first approached you with the opportunity of considering the possibility that some people are seeing into things something they shouldn't be- A fully cognizant person would at least have said "well okay, maybe in some extreme cases" to at least show he understood a potential problem. You not only don't see a possible problem you take it a step further and imply everyone lost in the world of counting patterns too fantastic for anything less than a computer to calculate, are normal but were made to appear crazy by the patterns themselves being applied.
That's really out there, and if you feel offended by my bringing this up, because you feel it hurts your plight by doubting it, consider others are equally offended that you are promoting YOUR position which negatively impacts THEIR plight. This is the reaction I am seeing from the community for raising these issues, people need to see it's a two way street.
In the end I raise these issues in a gradual way because I am NOT assuming your targeting is all in your head, and can posit that whether of sound mental health or not, you may indeed be targeted to some extent and because of it or in addition to it, are so wound up you are making something out of your observations that are not rational.
If that is the case it can only benefit you to calm down, analyze these factors, and if you could remove half or so of the events in your day you attribute to perps, is that not in your best interest? (I call that "perping yourself", I caught myself doing that after believing single horn honks by cars were "patterns". In effect, overly paranoid TI's spreading disinfo, caused me to terrorize myself for a while- until I realized most new cars have keyless entry and alarms which arm on leaving, with a single horn honk. whatever site I found that at, I hope the TI posting that feels proud my nerves were on edge for quite a while)
If anyone does not see the possible benefit to them if this could be done....
Then they ARE indeed, a "wannabe". Expect little compassion. (though concluding this is not a judgement I can fairly rush to)
Would you like to start this discussion again?
at 14:09 on January 14th, 2011
I certainly don't want to incite other TIs to go into a frenzy over "pattern based tactics", and start looking for patterns in their harrassment protocols.
That IS crazy, nonproductive, and nothing but negative. As you say, it's not in their best interests.
at 17:18 on January 15th, 2011
Thank you. Those are often a part of list of "conditioning" tactics some TI's promote as used, and spread this in web pages intending to "educate" new TI's. Reiterating I am not ruling out these tactics entirely, but if you realize you are a victim of a fairly elaborate program it's easy to scare yourself into believing anything someone tells you about what it can do- as well as think you've validated the existence of those tactics by looking hard enough to find them.
I would offer I'm probably mistaken pushing that others are schizophrenic merely for participating in unintentional disinformation. That's self centered, besides I am hardly a mental health professional (which in itself would be an admission of needing one. haha) Perfectly sane people can be induced into paranoia and harm themselves, it's part of our survival instinct- and in a group setting (TI community) we can scare ourselves silly.
I will continue to hold all of these purported tactics up to a simple litmus paper: Is the descibed tactic something that the average person would take notice of? If they did notice it, would it bother them, or would they laugh in the face of anyone who thought they could harm them with it?
The second part is important because the "program" would collapse on itself in its infancy if that were the case. How many perps would continue to do it if every time they showed up to torment someone, they instead got laughed at in public?
at 23:36 on March 31st, 2011
Quote poster - "only a schizophrenic mind would even notice such an elaborate or precise pattern that would require a computer to coordinate.'
Actual genetic or possible viral induced "schizophrenics" are completely dysfunctional on almost all levels. *They* are not discerning any patterns and their memories are usually nonexistent.
*Schizophrenics* are not surfing the internet discussing anything. *They* cannot even take care of themselves including feeding or any personal hygiene.
The labeling by so-called government agencies of whistle blowers, witnesses against whoever, fictitious enemies of the state and experimental subjects as "schizophrenic," has been and is a pattern of behavior that has been well documented.
at 05:10 on April 1st, 2011
I don't know where you get your information from but it is wildly inaccurate. The idea that all Schizophrenics are incapable of day to day functioning is quite frankly laughable.\ Mental illness is an extremely complex area, it cannot be boiled down to such basic notions.
at 15:32 on January 13th, 2011
Pattern Match, duh, you stepped right into batvette's snare.
Notice how they put the words right into your mouth?
at 17:05 on January 13th, 2011
agent provocateur can discuss issues or troll elsewhere.
at 10:50 on February 4th, 2011
When I arrived on the late FEDAME forum, Monica Stoces told me that it was the SINGULARITY, a sort of super intelligent computer. I don't think so. If they serve you an item from their database, then this can have a great effect on you, because if they remember the slightest detail, then they will also remember all that other stuff that is a bit more important and then you know that your privacy is gone. But this doesn't mean that a computer is actually in control of your situation. They wouldn't even allow a machine to pick up your garbage. How could they allow a machine to decide what you think and do?
I'm working on my problems. I discovered the address of a perp. That made the other perps very anxious. Until now they thought that they were untouchable because they were sure that I would never find them. You can read the story here:
http://www.setbb.com/gangstalking/viewtopic.php?t=148
I write the unofficial update to Mac OS 9.2.2.
http://os-9-2-3.tk
Do something that proves that you are more than the average perp!
I received a letter from a former Belgian senator who says that he will try to bring gang stalking and electronic harassment to the notice of his former collegues when he sees them. He's Doctor of Law and Master of Criminology. He has a law office in Antwerp.
Would you write to him if I give you his name and address? He's certainly going to be impressed when he sees your background.
Make a disposable e-mail address and post it here if you don't want to reveal your real address.
at 02:13 on February 5th, 2011
Your article is of a lesser quality than usual. You write also a lot of grammar mistakes. And now you write singularity-like stuff. I saw this before. Monica Stoces wrote like that on the FEDAME forum. Then she wrote that it was wonderful, that it was LOVE. A few weeks later she wrote that she was very depressed. I applied for membership of their discussion group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MCVictimsEU/ They refused my membership.
The stalking is carried out in an obvious way. They want you to see it because they want to provoke a reaction that looks like out of proportion. Then they will say that this reaction is proof of mental illness, because "a normal person wouldn't see a pattern" or "a normal person would laugh that away".
These are the patterns that I see:
Pattern #1: You see a large number of petty crimes against your property: displaced items, damage, small thefts, items are exchanged with similar items of lower quality, you see that they must have climbed over the fence, the door of the garden house is open. This indicates that they are preparing a big crime against your property. When that happens the police won't investigate because you made too many silly claims about your property.
Pattern #2: You see that you are attacked personally. You wake up with strange wounds. You hear voices and other stuff. You are plagued by headache. The neighbours play loud music and drill holes in the wall. You are bitten by dogs. Your pet is ill treated or killed. They make you fall with your bicycle. Cars arrive at intersections precisely when you arrive there. This indicates that they are preparing a big crime against your person. When that happens the police won't investigate because you made too many silly claims about 'attacks'.
Pattern #3: They destroy clothes. Clothes symbolize your body. This indicates that they want to attack the corresponding part of your body. They will first attack the weakest part of the body: 1) eyes, 2) genitals, 3) throat, 4) heart. If they want to attack your eyes, then they will for example destroy your glasses or contact lenses. If they want to attack your genitals, then they will for example make holes in underwear or the crotch of trousers. If they want to attack your throat, then they will for example cut in a collar of a jacket. If they want to attack your heart, then they will for example make a hole at a corner of a pocket of a shirt. Leather clothes symbolize your skin, so they will like to cut them.
Pattern #4: You're hypnotized in your dreams. This is probably the most hideous part of the program because it can be carried out in a way that you're absolutely not aware of it. It's good to know that there are still 1000 people in the world who don't behave like expected even after being hypnotized in their dreams for dozens of years.
at 03:27 on February 5th, 2011
I was feeling a lot of stress when I wrote this and have been intending to extensively clarify and expand on it, and have been sticking some of the theories posited in my second comment here on other TI's. Most of that second comment should have been that update.
The opposition to these theories has been even greater than what I anticipated, drawing unexpected anger and seeing even a well known TI I thought was exceptionally lucid, turn on me in a most dishonest way. While it would be easy to think "okay he's a perp" I think it is more his ego being challenged in his own forum, along with his belief system. He is one of those actively "educating" people of some things which are questionable to say the least and could only cause new TI's to add more anxiety to what they already experience.
As I said to him, "Ignorance is Bliss" is a saying that can go both ways- including overthinking something insignificant until you scare the hell out of yourself.
I'm letting it settle before I draw a conclusion just yet.
On one of your points, not sure what their capabilities are regarding invading your dreans- so far even the most extensive research publicly available doesn't even seem to understand the very meaning of dreams, let alone remote manipulation. Since it's a belief I can't strongly claim yes or no. Dreams can be very powerful, I've had some where I awoke with great determination to decipher the message within, to find what clue was left to improve my life, rejuvinated with hope somehow.... inevitably soon after awaking I'd forget what the hell it was all about in the first place.
Thus I've always been in the camp that believes dreams are meant to purge the mind of excess. And how would we know if it were the program hynotizing us in a dream, or our dream doing it? When we dream, the dream IS reality....
at 06:57 on February 9th, 2011
1) About the stress. I know what is bothering you. You think for example about "victory" and within a fraction of a second the reporter on the radio has changed his sentence to make the word "victory" fit in the sentence. Then you have the impression that everyone knows everything that you think, or worse, that there is a super intelligent machine that orchestrates this. The trick is of course that they send a hypnotic voice to make you think of that word. In the mean time the reporter is waiting for the signal to say that word. As soon as you think that word, he changes his sentence. It's in fact a cheap trick meant to turn you into a mental wreck. Just make a little calculation: what effort would it take to keep everyone informed of everything that you think, or everything that 1000 TI's think. You see that it's not possible. Mind control machines are not possible either. Imagine that the US as well as the Russians have a mind control machine and are trying to control your mind with conflicting commands. It's just not possible.
2) About other TI's turning on you. Your fear is that they will call you schizophrenic, so you call other TI's schizophrenic and then you distanciate yourself from them. Then their conclusion is that you are not a TI. It's not that simple. I think that you are under attack because you are a freemason, but they think that you are not worthy to be freemason. So you are on my forum as "targeted perp". I treat all freemasons as perps. All freemasons treat the profane as schizophrenic. I say: freemasonry is organized schizophrenia. I make the distinction between targeted perps and targeted non-perps. Both are welcome on my forum. Most TI's are targeted perps. So I'm interested to hear what they know, but I know too that they don't know everything either.
3) About the dreams. The dreams are 100% artificial. There's nothing in such a dream that originates in your own brain. You see that when you try to change something in the dream, like turn around, or take a hat and put it on your head. The dream will be struggling against your intentions. For example, when you turn around, then it's black. There are several types of hypnosis. Some leave a trace in a dream that you can remember when you wake up. Some leave no trace in your memory. They can for example hypnotize you while you sleep to make a certain unusual arm movement when you wake up. Then you remember that it was the same movement that you saw someone make in public. Then you realize that it was hypnosis. I'm sure that I have been hypnotized in my dreams since 31 years. And it doesn't even matter where I go. If I ride 50 km with my race bike and then I sit somewhere in the middle in the grass, and I fall asleep for half an hour, then I wake up and remember a long artificial dream. I dream as long as I sleep. If I look at the clock, I fall asleep, I wake up and see that it's 3 minutes later, then I remember my dream. A normal person will first have 2 hours of light sleep and then periods of 90 minutes of deep sleep in which there are 15 minutes of dreams. I go immediately to deep sleep and have a dream as long as I sleep. And these dreams are very sharp, colorful and vivid. So I go to bed because I want to rest and the result is that I'm more tired than before. These dreams are the greatest pest that I can think of. The tampering with your body and mind while you sleep is a much worse pest than the gang stalking.
at 07:52 on February 7th, 2011
Pattern #5: the 'flu'. You have the 'flu' in winter as well as in summer. This 'flu' lasts 1 day. The days on which you have the 'flu' are carefully selected: the national holiday, the day of the dynasty, the birthday of the SWAT member who is responsible for your harassment, the day before the day that you receive a letter in connection to a procedure in court.
at 08:15 on February 7th, 2011
I think I've read and understood your ideas, Batvette. And I respect them. You are not being gangstalked. Gangstalking is a figment of people's imagination and you are its first unwitting victim. You should get treated for schizophrenia as soon as possible. This fixation has led you to post all over the Internet -- doing this can only intensify your paranoia. Take a vacation. Lockheed will spring for it, I'm sure.
at 09:09 on February 7th, 2011
No, Lieutenant Larry Richard acknowledged the existence of gang stalking on a press conference. It becomes now more difficult to label the victims as schizophrenic. Would you administer Seroquel to someone just for talking about gang stalking?
www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-santa-cruz-police-lieutenant-speaks-out
at 18:58 on February 7th, 2011
Good point and one that makes this all the more convoluted. Many self claimed TI's repeat the disinfo that TI's have to be careful what they report lest they be institutionalized as schizophrenic, suggesting that the stress alone can make one mimic the effects of schizophrenia, and that professionals can not readily differentiate between a schizophrenic mind and one affected by stress and observing things meant to convince one they may be schizophrenic.
The disease sees the brain go through chemical and physical changes that are visible in MRI's- things that merely being targeted could never duplicate. Who is responsible for such disinfo, and why does it continue? One could speculate the program started it, maybe to encourage targets to further accept they are going crazy, and believe the program could accomplish this.
However the continued appearance of it could be seen as a those people so afflicted with the condition seeking to obfuscate any dividing line between themselves and others not schizophrenic, and offer they were perfectly normal until they were targeted and can rationalize they will also return to normal once this all ends.
I read today of another TI who claimed he left the country and took a job in an asian country teaching English, which in time he lost and returned home. He then said as a result of being broke and out of a job, he was institutionalized for 2 months.
Another TI at FFCHS describes being diagnosed with schizophrenia, and having been prescribed to take Clozeril- look that one up, they only give it in severe cases because the side effects can and have killed people- then goes on to say "oh, TI's are mistakenly diagnosed with schizophrenia all the time!" and then goes on his daily update of listing license plates and descriptions of "perps" so qualified usually because they looked at him funny. If you doubt that he will furnish the phone number of the store or gym or whatever and say "just call them and ask".
These are the people reinforcing that nonsense and it's obvious there is a self serving agenda.
at 11:09 on February 7th, 2011
this is surely the same disinfo specialist who posts with up to a dozen pseudonyms in Scrivener's articles, note the twist on another user's name. (also uses "battyvette", "coltish", "the 2") Probably Scrivener himself. Note the mention of "lockheed", and see the double hyphen or "m-dash" used as a sentance break. This is a trademark of Scrivener/TI(not verified) and is the kind of thing only an old journalism school grad would do. On an old typewriter, they used to use two hyphens (each the width of the letter n) to represent a dash for a pause in the sentance. Word processing programs do not do this and instead of an m-with dash leave it as two separate hyphens, which is why people use a single hyphen now. Unless you're old and arrogant.
Goodbye trollboy.
at 07:07 on February 8th, 2011
Note Batvette's paranoid attention to, of all things, punctuation marks (!) Note his belief that people posting here use multiple names. Note his irrational fear of old age to the point that he uses being "old" as an insult. It is clear that Batvette is overworked. Batvette, please insist that your employer allow you a vacation from your disinfo-agent computer work. You are serving the needs of the Surveillance State well -- but you deserve a break.
at 08:04 on February 8th, 2011
Before you continue, Faithful Templar, just a few remarks.
There are 3 people here always fighting each other: batvette, PeaceFrog and Scrivener. batvette is ex-army, PeaceFrog is a lawyer and Scrivener is ex-journalist. They have a different view and they don't give in. They want the status of expert. So they accuse each other of disinfo. I'm browsing through tons of information, to find something useful. All those flames, I skip them. I don't have time for that.
at 06:45 on February 11th, 2011
Gastacara aka The 1.
at 07:08 on February 14th, 2011
TI aka AnonTrollBoy.
at 08:09 on February 8th, 2011
Actually scrivener isnt an ex-journalist, he is a fraud.
And obviously TI had stolen my name in revenge for me crushing his arguments on a daily basis.