The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: The U.S. Debt Crisis Showdown

by Karen Hatter | July 30, 2011 at 05:34 pm
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Like the showdown in Clint Eastwood's classic film, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, the TEA Party, wearing the black hat, has called out and drawn down on the Good Guy in the white hat, the United States of America.

But, due to ideological visual impairment, the TEA Party honestly can’t see the United States. They can only see their ideological enemy, Barack Hussein Obama II, who they all know is poised to ruin the country and must be stopped at all costs.

The TEA Party began their crusade with a misinformed understanding, well, actually, a lack of understanding, of the dire consequences that could/would/most likely will, befall the country if the debt ceiling is not raised to allow the country to honor its obligations, causing the United States to go into default on the debt that is owed.

As President Obama stated a few days ago, raising the debt ceiling is necessary in order to pay for services, goods, etc. that have already been received by or rendered to the United States.

Let’s look at this situation another way. Let’s say a party of twenty had gone out to dinner. Everyone ordered their meal. A few ordered dessert and coffee. Still others ordered a few rounds of drinks.

At the time everyone decided to go to dinner, each of the twenty chipped in 20.00 to pay for the meal. When the check arrived, the bill, which had been guesstimated would be 400.00, was in reality 550.00. So, that means an additional 150.00 is required to pay the bill, which comes out to an additional 7.50 each for the twenty diners. This is assuming this crowd won’t go down the ‘All I had was a salad and an iced tea!’ road, which then complicates this example!

The reason for the example was to illustrate that, in the case of the diners, they have already consumed their meals, the bill has already been calculated and like the current debt owed by the U.S., the bill needs to be paid. In order to meet the current debt owed by the U.S., with things like the costs of the wars etc. going over in cost, the debt ceiling needs to be raised.

I’ve listened to the TEA Party spout rhetoric about bringing down the debt while tying the need to tame future accrued debt to the current need to raise the debt ceiling and it seems some believe that the amount owed for services rendered or goods received  can be negotiated away.

One TEA Party member of the House of Representatives, Paul Broun of Athens, Georgia, with the support of other Republican TEA Party cosponsors, Jeff Duncan and Mick Mulvaney, both from South Carolina and Joe Walsh of Illinois, introduced a bill that would LOWER the debt ceiling, which, since the debt has already been created, is a bizarre submission to add to the discussion on solving the current debt ceiling crisis.

Political experts blamed the impasse on inexperienced tea party congressmen elected in 2010 who fear that their supporters will turn on them if they vote to raise taxes -- even as part of a package with large spending cuts -- or don't hold the line on the debt.

Mr. Broun isn’t sure if President Obama is a citizen or not but he is sure he is a socialist. He also knows that there are government plans afoot to force Americans to eat more fruits and vegetables.

For weeks, polling has indicated that the public wants a balance of spending cuts and tax revenues as part of any deal to address the debt and deficit problem. The polls also indicate Americans see the Republican Party as the larger obstacle to any form of compromise. 

As negotiations for solving the looming debt crisis have dragged on as the nation draws nearer to an unknowable yet decidedly calamitous outcome, it has been freshmen TEA Party adherents in both the House and the Senate who have paid little attention ....   

.... to the public at large and more to the views of the tea party activists who helped propel them to power in the fall. They could pay a steep price for that if the public concludes they were responsible for putting the government in default or further damaging the economy.
Take names. Remember them. The behavior of certain Republicans who call themselves Tea Party conservatives makes them the most destructive posse of misguided “patriots” we’ve seen in recent memory.

If the nation defaults on its financial obligations, the blame belongs to the Tea Party Republicans who fragged their own leader, John Boehner....

As Republican Party Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner, the man third in line to the U.S. presidency,  .... 

.... battled to quell unrest among conservatives before a major vote, one of his most prominent members, presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann, openly revolted.

Bachmann, a Minnesota Republican running for president with "tea party" support, bucked her party leader in a speech at the National Press Club, only miles from Capitol Hill.

Michele Bachmann is the chairperson of the TEA Party Caucus in the United States' House of Representatives. There are no members of the Democratic Party in the TEA Party Caucus. 

The United States of America, at this moment tonight, teetering on the verge of defaulting on its obligations for the first time ever in the history of the United States, has been maneuvered into this position by the Republican Party, which has chosen to placate the Right Wing ideologues of their party, those who have come to be known as the TEA Party.

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YankeeJim

Impeach them all. Trial for traitors.

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Karen Hatter

Jim, what is most dangerous about these individuals is their streak towards anarchy, coupled with lack of knowledge.

The overstated characterization the TEA Party's unwavering stance not to take any 'gifts' as a buy off for their vote is NOT what is wrong with the functioning of the TEA Party. 

I've been listening to commentators, grasping for a means to understand this American tragedy, claiming that it is due to some kind of purist stance, TEA Party members not developing alliances outside of the TEA Party nor wanting anything by way of the usual trade offs that occur in Washington to aid in smoothing the process of governing, this is the reason why they won't seek common ground or compromise. That is not from where the problem arises. 

It is their lack of knowledge of the process of governing and its intricacies, making themselves satisfied with embracing quotes and adages, many of which they seem not to understand, plodding along, content in their belief that they don't need to understand anything about anything.  

Since the majority of the TEA Party only watches the FOX Channel and distrusts any information that does not emanate FROM the FOX Channel, with the viewers OF the FOX Channel having been identified as the least informed OF the American viewing public, it is best that they not be elected into office.

A member of a local TEA Party appeared on television during this crisis, reciting the 'We're taxed too much! We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem!' talking points. 

When it was pointed out that the majority of the debt that is on America's books was accrued on President George W. Bush's watch, he said that is why the people got together and voted him out.

I am beyond concerned about someone, stoked, pumped and sallying forth to do battle with all of the evil politicians in Washington while not knowing that President Bush could NOT be elected president again. 

It is basic knowledge that United States' presidents can only serve two four year terms, isn't it? 

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The 1

Great article Karen ! This Tea Party movement is losing steam with the general population. Hopefully because of this current impass, will show the general public the ignorance in their position.

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Karen Hatter

Thank you, 1.

Since it has been corporations and those like the Koch brothers' and their empire ultimately responsible for 'herding' the TEA Party, against the interests of all but the rich, toward keeping the status quo FOR the rich, maybe the standoff will motivate those claiming the TEA Party as representative of their interests will educate themselves of just EXACTLY who the Republican Party and TEA Party serves.

The few so called grassroots TEA Party formations that popped up in 2009 were engulfed by ultra conservatives who backed and formed organizations like Dick Armey's FreedomWorks to help give 'structure' to the TEA Party, with the rich being desirous of harnessing the so called 'energy' of what THEY were identifying as the base OF the Republican Party.. 

Ultra conservatives have lost control of their creation, since this showdown threatens the US' prosperity and the TEA Party is just lost in general. 

 

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Jennifer1959

Good article.  I don't like to sound negative about our government because we should all have respect for our country but this is really looking like a circus to the rest of the world right now. 

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Karen Hatter

Thank you, Jennifer.

I agree and it is most infuriating that things have taken on this circus atmosphere.

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nanute

If the outcome weren't so serious this would make for great comedy. What we are witnessing here is tragic comedy. The Republican Party has been taken over by the lunatic fringe of the conservative right. Speaker Boehner's days are numbered, mark my words. He doesn't have the power to whip his own caucus to vote for any plan that is reasonable and balanced. His only chance of getting a bill out of the House is with Democrat votes. As we speak, the Senate is trying to fashion a bill that will gain enough support in that body that can get enough support from Republicans, who are threatening filibuster. Even if a "compromise" can be fashioned in the Senate, it only takes ONE extremist to derail the process. (Think Rand Paul.) Furthermore, any agreement passed by the Senate must go back to the House where the Speaker will need Democrats to pass the bill. It will never be enough of a compromise for the lunatic fringe that is the Tea Party. Any one who claims that the Democrats have not been bargaining in good faith and with a willingness to compromise on the issues is delusional. If no reasonable bill can be fashioned, the President should invoke the 14th Amendment provision and borrow what is needed to avert default and pay the bills that Congress has already authorized. The people that are adamant about not raising the debt ceiling don't seem to understand is that at the end of the day we will need to borrow regardless of the outcome. Jeopardizing the US credit rating will most likely end up costing more to borrow the same amount of money required to pay the bills, adding to the long term debt. What a brilliant strategy.

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Karen Hatter

"If the outcome weren't so serious this would make for great comedy. What we are witnessing here is tragic comedy.'' 

You are so right about that, Nanute.

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nanute

And here is a sense of what's in the Senate "compromise." permalink
This won't fly either.

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Karen Hatter

Thanks for the link, Nanute.

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duddits

Hey Karen, I wanted to post this to demonstrate that there are other options" when it comes to Debt Compromise. This fairly long , but trimmed down information constitutes less than 1% of the DOD budget for the Month of July 2011. This info is" unclassified" and taken from the DOD awards public site.It is mind boggling to see the actual amounts of money they pass out each month, and many are questionable. #toc, .toc, .mw-warning { border: 1px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); padding: 5px; font-size: 95%; }#toc h2, .toc h2 { display: inline; border: medium none; padding: 0pt; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; }#toc #toctitle, .toc #toctitle, #toc .toctitle, .toc .toctitle { text-align: center; }#toc ul, .toc ul { list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; margin-left: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; text-align: left; }#toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 2em; }#toc .toctoggle, .toc .toctoggle { font-size: 94%; }body { text-indent: 0in; text-align: left; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; font-variant: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; widows: 2; font-family: 'Nimbus Roman No9 L'; }table { }td { border-collapse: collapse; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; }p, h1, h2, h3, li { color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Nimbus Roman No9 L'; font-size: 14pt; text-align: left; } DOD Expenditures: July 2011“ 1% of total for July 2011

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Piobar

Great article Karen. I particularly enjoyed your comparison to diners, but I would point out that, sadly, in actual fact what the TEA party has tried to do is not only refuse to put more into the pot, but take some of their money OUT of it. The government gains money through taxes, and the TEA party won out on their sticking point of no tax increases, particularly for the Job Makers who can most afford to pay more in tax. They are not actually creating the jobs, mind you, because what made them rich, and keeps them that way, is a sense of what is the best way to earn and save money. Outsourcing, therefore, to countries where labour costs are cheaper, is generally a more desirable course of action for them; why pay an American citizen a living wage when you can pay a child in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 />Asia or South America with pocket change to do the same job? Have tax breaks actually helped job-creation surpass job-loss, or more importantly overcome the damage already done by jobs previously lost? If not, clearly, tax-breaks for the super rich do not pay off. So why continue with a failed experiment? The government is still be spending beyond its means, with no new sources of income, but the rich funders of Senator so-and-so are happy that they do not have to pay any more taxes. There are no increases in revenue, and the money is gone, how spending less will solve everything is beyond me, when things have gone so far beyond mere cost cutting, all this eleventh hour agreement has done is make the politicians look like spoiled children, and defer the issue for a little while... In the fiasco over the last few weeks, trying to sort this out before the deadline, I did not see much Good, but Bad and Ugly were there in full force to make up for it….

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Karen Hatter

Thank you for the praise, Piobar and for correctly pointing out " .... that, sadly, in actual fact what the TEA party has tried to do is not only refuse to put more into the pot, but take some of their money OUT of it."


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