Governor Palin's Future Grandchild: Young, Black Man Claims Paternity

Thanks for the flag, Jim.  This is really the most interesting presidential contest on record!

I believe everyone who wants to see this video had better HURRY UP AND WATCH IT, because it has been my experience that "free speech" only goes so far.

Keep safe, Kevin!

Mary

Thanks for the flag and comments, and for loading the video.  I saw this story is all over DIGG already!  WOW!  Amazing stuff, although Kevin's claims are completely unsubstantiated.

I may be going out on a limb here, but -- it shouldn't take any sophisticated lab tests to find out if he could be telling the truth ...

I find Kevin's claims hard to believe.  Both Bristol and Levi are Caucasians.  Mixed children with a dark-skinned parent generally appear to be black, like Senator Obama does.  With that being the case, how would Governor Palin and her family hope to pass off this child as being Levi's if it were really Kevin's biological offspring? 

Why, such an attempt would be as ridiculous as trying to put forth a new medical "syndrome" (instead of death by Tasering) to explain detainees' "Sudden Death Under Arrest"!

http://www.nowpublic.com/health/beware-new-syndrome-sudden-death-after-arrest

Mary

Right ... well, I personally don't ever like to see anybody suffer needlessly, so I'm hoping a skeleton or two popping out of the Palin family closet, which is entirely normal, since they're just human beings,  is not destined to become the Night of the Living Dead ...

Why should she drop out of the race if the child's father is a young black man? Why would it be "too funny" if the child's father is a young black man?

The only thing that matters is that the father man up and live up to his responsibility.

This story seems very dubious, but it will give the leftists and haters of various types something to play with for awhile. Whatever happened to the guy who claimed Obama did drugs and had homosexual sex with him in a limo? If people are in the market for sleazy, that story is another toy for those who enjoy that kind of thing.

I am not sure why this is even here. It is not News Worthy but simple gossiping. 

Thank you, Amy and Milieunet, for the flags!

Thank you, NowPublic for promoting the story to Front Page. 

Everyone is urged to remember this is only an UNSUBSTANTIATED account by Kevin, but it is nonetheless news that this young man made such a public statement.

Mary

I know, Paschen, I know. I come back to do housecleaning in my email and discover that stuff like this, which along with other stuff becoming "top" GS, makes the Weekly World News suddenly look like an intellectual journal! 

To "Kevin's" credit, he categorizes his video as "entertainment" and does not pretend to be other than satirical. Well played.

I'm sorry, but I disagree--the fact that he said this doesn't make it news. It does make it gossip. I guess gossip is OK, for those who like it, for web chat sites, but to make something news, journalists actually should confirm the material presented. So, if I make a YouTube based on my "input" above, then that becomes news? Nah. It's just one person's claim that's then gossip.

This comment isn't personal, Mary, because I've given you a GS flag many many times. But I think this example does show the difference between professional journalists--if they do the job well--and  web chatter, where anyone can say anything at all and have it regarded as *legitimate news.*

Eventually, once the fad pales, I suspect that once again, most readers will go for material that they know has been checked out before being presented to be believed. That being said, there's always a market for outrageous, unconfirmed stories, gossip, etc. but no one quite takes the WWN, for example, to be in the same league as the WP, CSM, ToL, Time, etc. etc.

Hmmm. Maybe I could make a million or so with my McCain love child-aliens claim! Nah. 

Seriously (although my satirical claim, above, is YouTube worthy!), one thing that I think those evaluating "citizen journalism" type sites are watching is the crumbling of the belief that "unfiltered" material posted by anyone, with no confirmation at all, will be, long-term, regarded as news or reliable. Hence, there'll be a continued slow crumbling of CJ sites as "news" sites; instead their slow migration towards the "chat" side of the web will be the outcome.

I remember the old USENET (actually, I remember the old BBS days, too!) and frankly, a lot of so-called CJ these days is becoming USENET with slick graphics and the announcing of journalism happening. I dropped in on a group I participated in almost daily for more than 10 years the other day. It's gone downhill--that started years ago, and most of the veterans headed for higher ground!--but if I took the materials posted there and arranged them in a layout with slick graphics, they'd form their own CJ site. That group was one of the better ones, with actual news stories, then personal commentary and knowledge added--there are others out there that have always been outrageous and they, too, now would fit into CJ sites!

Sorry for the length. It's just that I did an interview on CJ recently, and I'm writing about CJ. Oh, I have so much research! 

Maybe I should go YouTube my "claim." Put a mask on like the anarchists. Claim I'm in hiding because government agents are seeking me. Then sell my story for gazillions! Then it could be drinks all round!

Since my family's justice plight is still completely ignored by mainstream news, and I know what happened to my brother and to my family is completely NEWSWORTHY and FULLY SUBSTANTIATED in any journalist's book (with authentic court documentation and a certificate of DEATH), I understand that some news has to be presented in less than orthodox media form.  If this young man does think he stands a chance of being Bristol's child's father and he's trying to ensure that he has a part in his child's life, how else other than appealing directly to the public would he be heard?

For that reason, it is sometimes necessary to give information that comes to us from unorthodox sources the benefit of a doubt.  That is all I give Kevin's story, an "hummm."  Judging by Gov. Palin's record for reckless drive for political gain and knowing how embarrassing this would be for the family if true, I cannot completely discount the idea that it at least could be true.

But truth alone does not necessarily equate justice for a young father or a grieving family, I have found.  And neither do justice quests get mainstream media coverage if those negatively impacted are rich and powerful.  If people's accounts of injustice are filtered out of independent news sources through censorship, too, what on earth will we do?

Mary Neal
Website:  http://wrongfuldeathoflarryneal.com

Kevin's paternity claim may indeed prove to be false.  The fact that he made such a nortorious and public claim is news.  If he's the child's father, then he should have certain rights.  If it turns out that he is not the biological father, then unless Kevin can prove that he at least had good cause for thinking the child was his, he should be held accountable for his video. 

As you assume, I am not voting for the GOP presidential ticket.  I am not so fond of guns and war and violence as I think Gov. Palin is, from looking at these pictures.  And I don't think more warfare will be good for my country, where I live and which I love.

Mary

Bill, that kind of talk is not permitted on nowpublic, please remove it. We don't say mean things about people here who post.

and I AM voting for Obama, guess that makes me sick too eh?

How can anyone say that this young man is lying about his relations with Mrs Palin's daugher?

We were not there and he is trying to step up to the plate as a soon to be father.  He offered to take the video down he just wanted to be contacted and permitted to be a parent to his child.  If they do not believe him, they can ask for a paternity test.  They are from a small town and there must be others who know. 

I applaud any man who wants to take care of his responsibilities.

You all should.

Maybe someone will contact him and speak with him about the issue. 

Certainly, other people in that little town should know if they dated.  It would be a reckless claim if it were absolutely not possible, that's for sure.  But, people sometimes do make reckless claims without regard to whom they hurt in the process. 

Most folks reading about Kevin have never been remotely close to Alaska, have no personal knowledge of any of the people involved in this election, and are not in a position to prove or disprove the authenticity of his claims.  And neither is Kevin, at this point.

Mary

As improbable as this story is, I find the photos particularly disturbing. 

Kids will be kids, regardless of the parents' best intentions.  But it is probably not a good idea to surround your children with liquor and expect them not to imbibe.  And drinking and guns make a bad combination.  I think VP Chaney can testify to that.

Mary

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I think that this poster, by implying some sort of racial bias based on political party preference, reveals rather clumsily their racial bias by their rather elegantly stated desires.  One also wonders what qualifies as journalism these days when all it takes is a YouTube video to successfully spew at best innuendo.

Just in case you want to know I support Obama but abhor the lack, in a few cases, of cogent thought and fair and balanced commentary on Nowpublic.com.  If Nowpublic.com is purely for commentary then I suggest it advertise itself that way.  If it is for news, then some standards need to apply or the truly newsworthy articles will be obscured by the poor standards of other stories.

I fully agree:)

Bristol should do the right thing and come forward at a news conference that her mother could call.  She should tell the truth about her relationship, if any, with Kevin.

Thanks for your comments, Apsloth.

I don't think such a thing would be fair to ask of this young lady, especially since she is not a candidate for office.  The only bearing Kevin's paternity claim has on this election is IF a candidate is actually attempting to deny him paternity rights in order to protect her image, it would raise concerns about her integrity. But does anyone know if they even dated?  It would probably be easy for an investigative journalist to find out, but it's doubtful that any will try.

It occured to me that if no journalists even try to find out the real story behind Kevin's claims, we will know once and for all, EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WILL KNOW, just who owns and controls mainstream media. 

The kind of claim this young man is making is not just something for tabloids.  If his allegations are true, that he dated Bristol and has reason to believe he fathered her child but was told to get lost by her parents, then that definitely should tell voters something about Gov. Palin's ethics and how much she values individuals' rights.  Discovering the possible validity or lack thereof of Kevin's paternity claim is NOT merely yellow journalism.

Good Lord.  "Keep safe Kevin!"  This kid is going to be sued up one side and down the other for being a bald face liar and you must be one of the most gullible people on the face of the earth.  This is about as real as King Kong attacking New York.

You are correct about free speech being endangered.  Did you know that Obama had an ABC producer arrested in Denver??  The producer, working on a story for Charlie Gibson on lobbyists and big corporate money behind campaigns, was on a PUBLIC sidewalk outside the Dem headquarters hotel filming lobbyists and corporate people going in to the hotel for a meeting. They did the same thing in Minneapolis, except it didn't make news because McCain didn't try to stifle the TRUTH and shut the press down.  So much for FREE SPEECH and FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. 

Don't worry... with a little luck you'll GROW UP someday!

Uh, DUH... did you know that the pipeline isn't anywhere near Wassilla????

This kid is LYING is a** off!

I am pleased that NowPublic or Bill removed that negative post.  We should be able to discuss current events on a news forum without negativity.  No one is saying that Kevin's claims are true and authenticated -- just reporting that these claims have been made and giving NowPublic readers a chance to view his video.  No one is in a position to prove or disprove the truth of Kevin's paternity claims, either, I assume.  If they can be easily disproved, I suppose we will be hearing about that pretty quick -- make sense?

The video itself does look a bit sketchy, but at this point, could also be an act of desperation.

Couple of things to think about...

• In all honesty, how many (young) men out there would be trying to hard to claim paternity on a child when they really didn't have to say anything and get off scott free?
• In my experiences, I have noticed that people will do very foul things in order to protect a fabricated image.

If this story is in fact true, the Palins really need to offer a public appology to this kid's family.