Greece on the skid

by YankeeJim | February 11, 2010 at 05:30 am
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What a pleasant relief to bask in another nation's economic grief for a change, not that the USA is out of the woods by any measure.

The EU apparently doesn’t want the debt crisis in Greece to spread like the plague into Europe. As far as most Americans know, Greece, and for that matter, Europe is just a vacation destination that is now a dream far from reach of their means to enjoy it.


“E.U. reaches deal on Greek debt crisis

By Anthony Faiola

Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, February 11, 2010; 8:12 AM

ATHENS -- European leaders reached an agreement Thursday on a plan to rescue financially troubled Greece, with Germany and France in particular throwing their collective might behind the Mediterranean nation in a bid to calm fears of a brewing debt crisis in Europe.

Stock markets across Europe rallied on the news, and the euro, which has taken a beating in recent weeks, jumped against the dollar. Details of the agreement were not immediately released, and analysts warned that it remains to be seen whether the deal will be enough to quell longer-term market fears of a debt default in Greece, as well as other weaker members of the euro zone including Portugal and Spain.

The leaders of Germany and France were expected to offer an outline of the agreement later Thursday from Brussels, at the close of a European Union economic summit. The International Monetary Fund is to be asked to offer advice and guidance to Greece as part of the agreement, though it would not be called upon to put up financial assistance -- something Greece's larger partners in the 16-member euro zone view as too embarrassing.

"There is an agreement on the Greek situation," Herman Van Rompuy, the European Union's new president, said. The deal came together after talks early Thursday between Van Rompuy, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet and Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou.

The move is meant to calm a crisis that has threatened to ignite a debt crisis on the edges of Europe and has raised questions about the stability of the principal European current, the euro. It marks the first time Europe's major economies have been forced to come to the aid of a weaker member-state in the 16-nation eurozone since the launch of the principal European currency 11 years ago.

The rescue, however, appears to be contingent on Greece holding firm to its pledge to dramatically cut its massive 12.7 percent budget deficit by slashing the public sector salaries and raising taxes, measures that have already generated a series of strikes on the streets of Athens.

Merkel told reporters this morning that "Greece won't be left alone but there are rules and these rules must be adhered to. On this basis we will agree on a statement."

Such a deal is considered highly controversial in Germany, where taxpayers have long feared they may be forced to bail out their less fiscally responsible partners in the euro zone.

"You don't help an alcoholic by handling him another bottle," said Frank Schaeffler, a lawmaker from Germany's Free Democratic Party, part of Merkel's ruling coalition government. "We should not get nervous now only because a few Greeks are taking to the streets. If we start helping out Greece today, Spain may be next in line, and so on."


 

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Thanks for this Jim, I read this article in the WP this morning and also at ZDF German TV.  They have placed a lot of onus on Greece to sort itself out.

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YankeeJim

Call the Euro diluire.

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nanute

Goldman Sachs helped the Greek government to mask the true extent of its deficit with the help of a derivatives deal that legally circumvented the EU Maastricht deficit rules. At some point the so-called cross currency swaps will mature, and swell the country’s already bloated deficit.Goldman Helped Greece Disguise Deficit

Apparently the same is true for a previous deal with Italy. With Spain, Portugal and Ireland facing serious economic difficulties, the question is what kind of hidden liabilities exist in these countries as well. In my opinion, this is just the tip of the iceberg and expect further "hemorrhaging" in the EU. And, it will spill over to our (US) economy.

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stejeb

Thanks nanute, our lot are still blamimg the USA for starting the whole crisis thing off, talk about passing the buck! lol

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Hugh Askew

We all spent ourselves into a hole....a deep one. Real deep.

Goldman-Sachs is an alright bunch of bankers, Obama will vouch for them.

Not certain, but they are likely insured against losses of this type by AIG - as they were against their scam derivitives.  They got a big bunch of bail-out money via AIG ($18,000,000,00+).

Thus, their hands are clean.  If AIG has to payout on any bank losses in Europe, the American taxpayer will need another "atta boy" or two.   Maybe they can just lend us the use of a few of the Greek islands, eh?

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YankeeJim

That's what I was thinking. We could offlaod a few of my retiring generation to Greeece.

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nanute

Obama will vouch for them... As did Bush and the former Treasury Secretary (former Goldman Sachs chair) Hank Paulson. If AIG is insuring the risk, you can bet that Goldman has bet the other side.

Roy seems to think it's all the Greeks fault. All we did was sell them a bigger shovel.

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Hugh Askew

Obama said yesterday (i believe), that they were "a good bunch a guys"......he and GB must hang with the same crowd, no?

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nanute

It's like what Willie Sutton said about robbing banks: " It's where the money is."

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Hugh Askew

Must have to have a nose for the stuff to become a successful elected graft recipient...errrrr, politician.

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YankeeJim

Who needs another term to get rich?

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