The Ground Zero Burlington Coat Factory Mosque

The Cordoba House is just another attempt on the part of Sharia advocates to stick it in the American infidel's face. It has nothing to do with "religious freedom", and everything to do with conquer and humiliate the infidels. The majority of American Muslims will never tell us how they really feel and where their sympathies lie, until they establish a greater presence here in America. And once they do, they'll be shouting Allah akbar and death to the infidels from the minarets. And that's precisely what politically correct elitists/internationalists, like New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, are allowing them to do. Progressives and the rest of the politically correct crowd are inherently suicidal. They are incapable of coming to a rational conclusion as to whom the real victims are and the real enemy is. In any event, the progressive's and the PC crowd's enemy is America and all its traditional institutions including Christianity. And the way they look at things is that the enemy of their enemy is their friend no matter how savage and barbaric their "friend" may be. Those types scare me more than the terrorists do . . . .

Every time Americans express their angst and outrage over issues such as illegal immigration, terrorism on the part of Muslims, and now the building of a 13 story mosque adjacent to Ground Zero, there is a hue and cry on the part of left wing ideologues and progressives to marginalize and dismiss those Americans as xenophobes, racists, and paranoids. There is nothing xenophobic, racist, or paranoid about not wanting wide open borders and 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. There is nothing xenophobic, racist, or paranoid about not wanting a terrorist sympathizer to build a 13 story mosque in close proximity to where almost three thousand Americans lost their lives at the hands of Muslim terrorists. And there is nothing xenophobic, racist, or paranoid about Americans questioning the motives of religious fanatics that remain virtually silent and nonplussed over the fact that their brethren continue to murder, maim, and behead innocent people all in the name of Allah. On the contrary: It's called common sense.

The facts are that virtually all terrorist activity nowadays is committed by adherents to the Quran in the name of Allah. The "progressives" and politically correct crowd would have us believe that it is only a tiny handful of Quran adherents that engage in terrorism or sympathize with terrorists. I don't believe it for a minute, because there is absolutely no proof that it's the case. There is just too much deafening silence on the part of Muslin Americans when it comes to terrorist acts on the part of their own. There are also too many so-called Muslin civil rights organizations out there such as CAIR that are in fact front groups for terrorist organizations. The proposed erection of a 13 story mosque, on the part of a Muslim that supports the terrorist group, Hamas, adjacent to Ground Zero, is a blatant example of how little regard Muslims have for the American people. This mosque thing is a major statement. Namely: Screw you America! We'll do whatever the hell we want to do in your country.If there truly are any good, loyal, patriotic American Muslims then why is their silence deafening over this issue? What are they afraid of? Surely if American Muslims are as patriotic and loyal to America as the left wing ideologues, "progressives", and the politically correct crowd wants us to believe, then why are none of them taking the side of the millions of Americans that don't want the 13 story mosque erected adjacent to Ground Zero? Until American Muslims stand up and take the side of main stream Americans, no one other than leftist ideologues, "progressives", and the politically correct crowd is going to believe for a minute that they're loyal and patriotic Americans. Indeed, there's been absolutely no indication thus far that American Muslims are anything but terrorist sympathizers and Quran-thumping religious fanatics whose sole purpose for being in America is to impose Sharia law throughout the land.

NANUTE: Americans are being told day in and day out by people like you that it's only a tiny handful of Muslim fanatics that are terrorists, wannabe terrorists, or terrorist sympathizers. What evidence and what reality do you base that assertion on? Simply because American Muslims haven't yet strapped on bomb-packs, taken to the streets, and started slicing throats like Muslims do 24/7 throughout the Middle East? BTW: Is that terrorist training camp still functioning 130 miles from NYC in Hancock New York?

Tell me, NANUTE:  Why are we not hearing from any Muslims other than those that support the erection of the 13 story mosque adjacent to Ground Zero? Is it because of a plot by the MSN to censor moderate Muslims? LMAO! It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here. Indeed, a third-grader can put two and two together and come up with four. JEEZ!

If you want to continue taking sides with the enemies of America, that's your business. But people like me will always be on your case. There are just too many indications that American Muslims are not the loyal and patriotic Americans that those of your ideological persuasion would have us believe. All your arguments derive from the fact that there is virtually not one issue that you'd agree upon--no matter how logically and rationally the issue is presented --if the issue is presented by anyone other than a Democrat, a "progressive",  a leftist ideologue, or some supposedly aggrieved minority. This is one of the main reasons why America is in the state that it's in..Namely, many otherwise intelligent Americans can't break free of and get their heads out of the ideological cloud that they're engulfed in, nor can they put aside their long-ingrained prejudices and biases for the greater good.

In your case, as well as your "progressive" ilk's case, one of your major biases is against Christianity. Another of your biases is against anyone (and that includes any Republican) that takes a "conservative" and traditional view of America, it's culture, and its institutions. How did you and those of your ideological mindset ever come to hate America--your country--as much as you do? What occurred in your life to cause you so much animosity toward America, it's culture, and its institutions? And how do you rationalize your view of yourself as a "progressive" or a "liberal" when there is nothing "progressive" or "liberal" about you, because you invariably tow the party line and march in lock-step with the Democrat/progressive "talking points"?

It's not a mosque. Get it? I have no bias against any religion. You use that straw man false equivalence all the time. I believe in freedom of religion and the separation of  church and state. You on the other hand don't seem to believe in either. Can American Muslims freely worship their God in your America Rory? Or, is it only permitted in designated areas, and is a loyalty oath required. We are talking about American citizens. You know, equal protection, and all those other quaint fundamental rights belonging to all Americans.
It's nothing personal Rory. Talk about political correctness! If I don't agree with your opinion, I'm somehow someone who hates America?  Spare me the condescending bullshit. What I hate, and you are a prime example of, is the idea  of American exceptionalism. It was used against Native Americans, Japanese Americans and is now being used against not only Muslim Americans, but Americans like me that have served their country with honor and distinction.

I just don't see any sign of "tolerance" (i.e., give and take) on the part of those that we're told to be "tolerant" of. I certainly don't want an RPG shot into my home! But for Christ's sake, I can't let that scenario hold my tongue! Whether or not the erection of a mosque adjacent to Ground Zero is philosophically, ethically, and constitutionally justified, how come there are no patriotic and loyal Muslim-Americans under the tails of the bell-curve on the side of the millions of Americans that oppose the erection of the mosque? Their silence is deafening! And that has me and millions of others suspicious as to their motives and intentions.

The numbers don't lie. For example: If, say, 64 percent of the American population feels strongly one way about an issue, then at least a substantial percentage of a subgroup of the American population (in this case, American Muslims) should feel the same way and express the same views as 64 percent of the American population expresses. In the case of Cordoba House, millions of Americans are outraged over its proposed erection. Yet I don't even see A TINY HANDFUL of Muslim-Americans outraged over its proposed erection. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? And in light of that picture, what rational justification does anyone have for implying--let alone explicitly stating--that those who question the motives of American Muslims, are xenophobes, racists, and paranoids?

The rank and file American Muslim community needs to convince the rest of America that it's on our side! It's done a piss-poor job of convincing us thus far. It can no longer maintain its deafening silence and allow terrorist front organizations such as CAIR to speak for it if it wants to establish any credibility with the American people. It can no longer remain silent on the Cordoba House. If it's against us, then it needs to get the hell out of America and go back to where it came from. And if it's against us, the numbers are not in its favor . . .there are just too many pissed off Americans that take a dim view of what Muslim's did in the name of Allah on 9/11.

Nanute, maybe this will lend a bit of clarity for those unaware. Of course, for those who TRULY need enlightenment, I'm sure it will not suffice as clarifying OR informational.

Two days ago, David-Phillip's posted, The New York Mosque: Who is Imam Feisal Abdul Raif?, the man behind the planning FOR the Islamic center.

The article details the long standing relationship Imam Raif has had with the United States' State Department, during the Clinton AND BUSH administrations, with him having traveled on behalf OF the U.S. State Department.

These are details the pseudo news organization FOXNews and those parroting their 'copy' forgot to include during their fear mongering regarding the Islamic center and the Imam, as David-Phillips points out in his article.

Okay you two stop fighting or By GOD, Allah, Jesus and /or Santa Claus I will turn this car around and no Disneyland for both of you.  As for Karen, I think you best reach over to the back seat and give Rory and Nanute a "Nipple Twister" that'll quiet em up!