Ground Zero Mosque Controversy for Dumbies

by cconyersjr | August 16, 2010 at 02:20 pm
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I love racially and religiously tinged fear mongering, especially when it comes from people who live hundreds of miles away from what tourists tend to call "Ground Zero", but what New Yorker's call Lower Manhattan.

Over the past several weeks now, White Christian blowhard politicians have condemned Brown Muslims over their "insensitivity" in wanting to build a third Mosque two blocks away from the site of the former World Trade Center. Well, I don't think that most of these people actually knew that there were two other Mosques near "Ground Zero"-- one of which was there nearly 10 years before the Twin Towers were built. But I guess that doesn't matter when you're a self-centered bigot. And that's exactly what these people are-- make no mistake.

Some of you will think that I'm insane-- mostly those of you that live no where near New York City, and probably wouldn't know a Muslim from Muslin cloth. For anyone to assume that all Muslim are terrorists, you would also have to assume that Christians are equally guilty of such things. Aren't Christians responsible for bombing abortion clinics?  Christians in the KKK murdered Blacks, Jews, and Catholics in the name of their religion. In fact, Christians militias and terrorist groups are responsible for more killings in this country than most people would want to admit to. But no one is going to throw a shit-fit if someone builds a Christian church or starts a Christian church group in a Black or Jewish neighborhood, would they? No they wouldn't. And do you know why? Because somehow, we've managed to separate the lunatics from the rest of the flock. But that's not good enough for Muslims, now is it?

Personally, I think that religion is dangerous...only because people tend to ruin it. In theory, I guess it's good to believe in things that help you cope and get through life, if "life" is a little too much for you. But there are too many idiots out there that either use it to manipulate others, or misinterpret it to justify their inability to use reason and rational thought. People like Newt Gingrich, who compared building the new "Ground Zero" Mosque to building a Nazi center next to a Jewish Temple. I'm sorry, but that's just 12 kinds of stupid. I mean, this guy is supposed to be the "brain" of the Republican party, and this is what he comes up with? Seriously, how many times are these intellectually lazy GOP nimrods going to use the "Nazi" card? Do us all a favor, guys-- put it back in the deck.

I see Muslims every day. I speak to them every day. I even work with a couple. I've lived in NYC for well over a decade. I was in town on 9/11, and the days, weeks, months and years after that. And believe me, Muslims were just as upset about that attack as everyone else was. They felt that they had to go above and beyond to prove to everyone that they were not like those radical idiots. They decorated their cabs with American flags. They wrapped their hair with red white and blue turbans. They wore flag lapels-- anything to show that they were not with those terrorist pricks. But that's not good enough, is it?

If this is the way we're going to be-- if we have to force Muslims to prove themselves-- then why don't White folks prove to everyone else that their not the inbred racists that they are perceived to be? I was told when I was growing up that I would have to work 10 times harder than every White person-- you had to FLY to where a White person merely had to walk to.  Why? Because you had to prove yourself. You had to prove to the White folks that you were worthy of their respect. BULL. SHIT. That's what I say now, that I'm older and I know better. I've lived and worked with and around White people for most of my life, and I've gotta tell ya...they're no better or worse than anyone else. In other words...they are NOTHING special. At all. They are just as infallible as everyone else. So why should anyone have to go out of their way to prove anything to them?

Cordoba House is the name of the group that wants to build the Mosque in Lower Manhattan. They are an out-reach group, trying to heal the relationship between the Muslim World and the West. They are one group out of billions of Muslims that have absolutely no interest in terrorist activities WHATSOEVER. But that really doesn't matter to the intolerant among us. Granted, no other country in the world is as free as this one is. That's what makes America so great. What makes it not-so-great? Our ignorant, backward, emotionally-stunted countrymen and women that proudly trumpet their uneducated views. Bigots, racists, morons. These are the people that get in the way our evolution. These are the people that politicians constantly cater to, so they can scrounge up a few extra votes. It's a shame, really, because it makes all of us look stupid.

President Obama is right to stand up for our nation's religious freedoms. There is not one person living in this great nation that can call themselves an American, and not believe that. The attacks of September 11th were shocking to all of us-- particularly those of us that were here, and in DC, and Pennsylvania, that day. As horrified and as angry as I was about the attacks, I'm not in the mindset of condemning all Muslims for them. If I go there, then I should blame all White people for slavery. And Jews should blame all Germans for the Nazi Party.

It's pretty stupid to blame a whole for the sins of a relative few. And the only way we're going to survive as a people and as a nation, is if we get our collective heads out of our asses, and squash our bigoted tendencies. Like it or not, we are becoming less and less influential in the world. The last thing we need to do is extend our enemies list. But hey, if you feel comfortable in your hatred, and find solace in some loudmouth cable television goons or manipulative politicians rationalizing your bigotry...well, what can you say to that? I think Forrest Gump said it best:

"Stupid is as stupid does."

And that's all I have to say about that.

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Ahmar Mustikhan

Why are you trying to fool gullible Americans? The name itself, Cordoba, symbolizes the Muslim conquest of Spain. Why could not it have a more peaceful name like Roomi?

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A New Yorker

Ahmar Mustikhan wrote:"The name itself, Cordoba, symbolizes the muslim conquest of Spain."This is totally false.  The name symbolizes the program leaders intention to foster and live a faith that accepts modernity, science, democracy, and pluralismCordoba was the greatest seat of science and culture in the Western World when it was an Islamic city.  It was also the capital of a medieval state (Al-Andulus) legendary for its tolerance, pluralism, and religious harmony.     As the capital (and site of the greatest library and university in Europe) of Al-Andulus, Cordoba is a kind of Camelot in Islamic culture - a lost Eden of ideas ahead of their time.  Far from symbolizing the conquest of Spain, it was the conquest of Al-Andulus by the Visigoths (who were Christian) that led to the development of Spain. The reference is an immediate and obvious symbol to most muslims (and non-muslims who know history) that the founders reject fundamentalism.  As such it is a direct rebuke to the terrorists and other hard liners.  (In fact it was an invasion of Al-Andulus by fundamentalists from North Africa that weakened it in the face of the Visigoths.  You couldn't pick another name that was more of a provocative of the hard-liners.)

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Yas

Great Article, of course stating the ever obvious.  White folks are plainly being manipulated by the media and ex-criminals on the right who can't approach any other issue with such fervour.  this is all they got.

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Ahmar Mustikhan

To know how great Cordoba was read:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain_1.shtml


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melony lockwood

Thank you Thank you Thank you! This was a great read! Incidentally, isn't it funny how members of the GOP repeatedly criticize black people for complaining too much and failing to recognize that they had nothing to do with slavery; as if they are offended by any notion that they should have to apologize for the centuries of slavery, discrimination, racism, and lynching-not to mention the present unjust imprisonment of thousands of black men in America?  For what it's worth,  I'd like to apologize to every Muslim American ever discriminated against on behalf of all my misguided/ignorant Christian brothers and sisters out there. As a black American, trust me...I feel your pain!

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batvette

1. I'm pretty sure it's "dummies" not "dumbies".  Even us dumb white crackers learnted tu spel stuf.

2. I love racially and religiously tinged fear mongering, especially when it comes from people who live hundreds of miles away from what tourists tend to call "Ground Zero", but what New Yorker's call Lower Manhattan.

I notice both there (by not saying "we" new yorkers) and below:

mostly those of you that live no where near New York City,

That you get real dodgey about the fact YOU don't live in the City either, you live at least 20 miles away in the Rockland County suburbs. So at what point between 20+ miles and "hundreds" does your point become moot? Are you completely detached from the fact that those attacks affected the entire nation, or that many if not most of the victims lived outside the actual city?

This is the least of your journalistic sins here, as trying to make a point out of exclusion  by geographical locale is hardly as obscene as unjustly employing the race card against those you disagree with.

3.  then why don't White folks prove to everyone else that their not the inbred racists that they are perceived to be?

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 with and around White people... 

...they are NOTHING special. At all.

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White Christian blowhard politicians have condemned Brown Muslims

(note he cannot reference a single one actually speaking of their skin color)

I could go on but don't think I need to. Listen up, my fellow American, the 9/11 hijackers didn't attack WHITE America, they attacked AMERICA. Don't attach the racist chip on your shoulder to your position to lend more weight to it than it merits. I can only say I feel as much sorrow for the black people you pretend to represent with your own hatred and bigotry, as I do for them having been subjected to such abuse by whites in the past and even the present in many southern states.

With this distasteful and offensive article (which would cause outrage if written by a white about blacks) you only trivialize that real cause (and from perusing your list of articles I think if racism ended you would be a very bored person- just sayin'). Many Blacks are Christians. Blacks and Whites do attend many of the same Christian churches in this country and sit side by side in the same pews. Blacks and Whites fight in Afghanistan side by side against the very terrorist forces that attacked us on 9/11.  

Please do not forget this. Thank You.

 

 

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ARSHI ZAFAR

This MOSQUE will unite humanity.

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Nicoline

NEVER!!!!!!How can that unite the Christian humanity,if most Muslims want to wipe out the Christianity and our believes are not the very same?We don't want to kill lot of people by once by bombings,etc.GOD made human,animals and everything else,so NO one can decide to kill others...we are in the Hand of the Allmighty God only!!!!

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