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Hamas terrorist ruled Gaza stays in isolation
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by YankeeJim | August 10, 2010 at 05:21 am
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A desert enclave in isolation with its back to the sea ruled by Hamas terrorists seems like it would reach a point of complete breakdown in short order. What is keeping it alive?
The attempt by Israel to blockade the people there, to force them into leadership change, doesn’t seem to be working.
Supplies are getting in. What do local people do to survive in this place?
After the raid of the Gaza bound flotilla from Turkey to Gaza, what did Israel find on board? Did they discover weapons or just food stuffs?
Is it Turkey’s policy to support supplying Gaza? Is it acceptable to Israel to permit Gaza to receive supplies?
These may be naïve questions, but to understand the situation more, I need more information. In the end, is the Israeli strategy working?
“Netanyahu tells inquiry Turkey ignored appeals
Turkey ignored repeated warnings and appeals “at the highest level” to halt a Gaza aid flotilla, prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu told an Israeli inquiry yesterday into the fatal raid by his troops.
Mr Netanyahu was the first witness to testify to the state-appointed inquiry into the lethal raid at sea on May 31st, in which Israeli commandos killed nine Turkish pro-Palestinian activists after boarding their vessel from a helicopter.
The clash took place before dawn in international waters off Israel, after the flotilla ignored repeated Israeli warnings not to continue to Gaza. The enclave is ruled by the Hamas Islamist movement and is sealed off by an Israeli naval blockade.
The United Nations formed its own committee to investigate the Israeli raid, which will meet for the first time on Tuesday.
“Beginning on May 14th, my office held contacts with the highest levels of the Turkish government,” Mr Netanyahu said. “These contacts . . . were intended to prevent a confrontation with the Marmara flotilla, and they continued until the eve of the flotilla’s arrival off Gaza’s shores,” he said.
“Despite our continuous diplomatic efforts, ultimately the Turkish government did not prevent the attempt by the Marmara to violate the naval blockade . . . It appears that did not see in the prospect of a clash between Turkish activists and Israel something that clashed with its interests.””
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at 06:17 on August 10th, 2010
Amidst all the walls being erected in Israel, admist smothering restrictions placed on Palestians' movements, with resentments incubating like an incedious virus, the question must be asked...where are the Palestians togo? Ultimitly, they are human beings, how small can their "kennel" become before an all out revolt insues? Realistically speaking a dog will take only so many beatings and other abuses before it finally lashes out at its oppressor. The world community has been a passive participant in inexcusable denial concerning the tensions between the Palestians and the Israelies. How far will Israel go? Reminds this citizen of the "ghetto" mentality of the second World War.
at 10:02 on August 10th, 2010
Valid points and questions.
Many Palestinian people are not the original population displaced as a result of a deal between an Arab sheik and Israel with the blessing of the UN. Most are people who were born somewhere else, not in the place of their heritage.
What is the demographic breakdown? How many people claiming to be Palestinians were born in Egypt, Jordan, or someplace else? The nation of their birth is their homeland without a claim to the lands of their ancestors. That land was effectively sold.
As for the people of Gaza, if they chose leaders who will negotiate peace with Israel, the path is clear to a place to live. Yet, because the geography is constraining, and the resources to support people limited (as it is in Israel), whatever form of government that emerges must have a population control policy and strict rules about resource allocation.
The futures for such constrained states are bleak, unless they adopt a cooperative culture and government.
So, people are stuck in Gaza bound by a lack of education, lack of effective leadership, a legacy of backwardness.
Israel's strategy, as you suggest, is to break the mad dogs by whipping them into submission. The "dogs" may not like it, but they are in a kennel.
at 06:34 on August 10th, 2010
Turkey policy
at 09:53 on August 10th, 2010
Guys, I read the same tired, but off-the wall arguments about poor Palestinians and the big bad Israel in its suppression of the inhabitants before. I really hate to bust your bubble but this is truly a fantasy land scenario that sounds mighty good to Hamas and its supporters but has as much credibility as the leadership has in being honest brokers for peace.
I have generally refrained from commenting lately on NP about Israel because there is so much on line to refute what appears to be reasoned arguments but nonetheless are just not factually correct. If you have specific questions I am willing to try my hand at them. But these general indictments of a country, people and their motives are just propaganda.
"Israel's strategy, as you suggest, is to break the mad dogs by whipping them into submission. The "dogs" may not like it, but they are in a kennel." This comment is just one small example of the foolishness and lack of seriousness in understanding Israel and its people. I have put up plenty of info on NP all it takes is some time and energy to explore the archives.
Respectively, Steve
at 10:03 on August 10th, 2010
Actually, I thought the overall slant here is more toward Israel.
at 10:41 on August 10th, 2010
I was referring to the comments not the article. Sorry. Here is the latest from Gaza.
Beirut is caught in a vice between pro-Iranian and pro-Syrian factions over the Saudi move to pull Syria away from its support for the Lebanese Shiite Hizballah and Tehran's counter-moves. In Palestinian Gaza, debkafile's military sources report, this conflict is reflected in the strains breaking surface between the ruling Hamas, whose political secretary Khaled Meshaal is based in Damascus, and the Jihad Islami, Tehran's Palestinian arm.
Both have put their armed men on the ready for a showdown which could end in the carving-up of the densely populated, tiny (360 sq. km.) Palestinian enclave.
Our exclusive sources report that Saturday night, Aug. 7, Hamas' Ezzedine al-Qassam and Jihad's Saraya al Qods-Jerusalem Battalions ordered a general mobilization.
Except for Israeli military units stationed near the Gaza border and certain intelligence circles, this brink-of-factional war went unnoticed in Jerusalem and Israel's media, which are preoccupied with unending domestic political disputes.
debkafile's military sources, however, call the situation in the Gaza strip "explosive" thanks to the extreme steps the two feuding Palestinian factions have set in motion:
1. Their two armed forces have called up reserves, corralled them inside towns across Gaza and are holding them ready to step into flare-ups as reinforcements;
2. The two armed groups are under orders not to rest: they must stay in uniform, hold their side arms ready and keep awake.
3. Both Hamas and Jihad have broken open their weapons stores and are distributing arms around neighborhoods they regard as loyal bastions.
4. Both threaten to use against each other the missiles they have stocked up for attacking Israel;
Our sources are holding tight in the hope that outbreaks of violence building up in the Gaza Strip do not spill over the border into Israel.
at 15:35 on August 10th, 2010
Bear in mind, it might take a lifetime for me to learn about and understand Israel. That is a scholarly endeavor. Reading your comment, it seems that everything is entangled such that it is a very complex problem. However, I am sure that you have excellent intelligence.
It is probably best to let the factions play themselves out and keep them isolated from entering Israel as that is what you are doing.
Syria figures in the forefront of settling things down, if I read this correctly. That is why Mrs. Clinton made a trip there I suppose.
at 05:58 on August 11th, 2010
at 11:49 on August 10th, 2010
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at 04:13 on August 11th, 2010
HAMAS and Fatah keep the people living in their regions living as as refugees because it is necessary to do so in order to ensure a sufficient pool of desperate individuals to fight their jihad against Israel. Happy, employed individuals do not, generally speaking, turn to martyrdom as they have the tools to improve themselves and their families future. No one of the power brokers in the P.A. is from Gaza or the West Bank. They come from Egypt or Syria, Lebanon or Jordan. The man who wants to make something of himself is an enemy of the terrorist cells. There was a great BBC[?] show documenting trade between a Palestinian and an Israeli farmer along a piece of the border where these farms met. They were doing great business and getting along and prospering. When a terrorist cell [HAMAS or Fatah] discovered this, they moved into the area. The Palestinian farmer had no one to complain to about the harassment and loss to his business but, the Israeli complained to the government who sent the IDF into the area. That successful business between the two farmers died right then during filming. The last scenes of the film were shot from the Israeli farm with the Palestinian farmer looking across the open ground to where his house and farm had been. Now shelled as a terrorist camp and potential missile launching site.
at 05:59 on August 11th, 2010
"No one of the power brokers in the P.A. is from Gaza or the West Bank. They come from Egypt or Syria, Lebanon or Jordan."
Very important point