Head of Nobel Literature Committee Says American Writers Too Ignorant For Serious Consideration

by Emilio Lizardo | October 1, 2008 at 02:26 am | 247 views | 18 comments | 26 recommendations

Horace Engdahl, permanent secretary of the Nobel Literary Committee, stirs up some major trans-Atlantic literary controversy when he talks to the Associated Press about American literature and America's authors. Certainly it would be no understatement to describe his comments as somewhat less than complimentary.

Nobel literature head: US too insular to compete 
Sep 30 03:54 PM US/Eastern

STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - Bad news for American writers hoping for a Nobel Prize next week: the top member of the award jury believes the United States is too insular and ignorant to compete with Europe when it comes to great writing.

Counters the head of the U.S. National Book Foundation: "Put him in touch with me, and I'll send him a reading list."

As the Swedish Academy enters final deliberations for this year's award, permanent secretary Horace Engdahl said it's no coincidence that most winners are European.

"Of course there is powerful literature in all big cultures, but you can't get away from the fact that Europe still is the center of the literary world ... not the United States," he told The Associated Press in an exclusive interview Tuesday.

He said the 16-member award jury has not selected this year's winner, and dropped no hints about who was on the short list. Americans Philip Roth and Joyce Carol Oates usually figure in speculation, but Engdahl wouldn't comment on any names.

Speaking generally about American literature, however, he said U.S. writers are "too sensitive to trends in their own mass culture," dragging down the quality of their work.

"The U.S. is too isolated, too insular. They don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature," Engdahl said. "That ignorance is restraining."

His comments were met with fierce reactions from literary officials across the Atlantic.

"You would think that the permanent secretary of an academy that pretends to wisdom but has historically overlooked Proust, Joyce, and Nabokov, to name just a few non-Nobelists, would spare us the categorical lectures," said David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker.

"And if he looked harder at the American scene that he dwells on, he would see the vitality in the generation of Roth, Updike, and DeLillo, as well as in many younger writers, some of them sons and daughters of immigrants writing in their adopted English. None of these poor souls, old or young, seem ravaged by the horrors of Coca-Cola."


Chair no. 17 - Horace Engdahl

Chair no. 17 - Horace Engdahl


Horace Engdahl, born 30 December 1948 in Karlskrona. Writer, literary historian and critic, Adjunct Professor of Scandinavian literature at the University of Århus. He was elected to the Swedish Academy on 16 October 1997 and admitted on 20 December 1997. Engdahl succeeded the writer Johannes Edfelt to Chair number 17. He has been the Academy’s Permanent Secretary since 1 June 1999.

Horace Engdahl
He earned his B.A. in 1970 at Stockholm University, and began his doctoral studies there; he completed his Ph.D. only in 1987, with a study on Swedish romanticism, but had meanwhile been active as a literary critic, translator and journal editor, and was one of the introducers of the continental tradition of literary scholarship in Sweden. He is currently adjunct professor of Scandinavian literature at the University of Aarhus in Denmark. He speaks Swedish, English, German, French and Russian fluently.

Swedish Academy

Logo of the Swedish Academy

The Swedish Academy (Swedish: Svenska Akademien), founded in 1786 by King Gustav III, is one of the Royal Academies of Sweden. Modelled after the Académie française, it has 18 members. The motto of the Academy is "Talent and Taste" ("Snille och Smak" in Swedish). The primary purpose of the Academy is to further the "purity, strength, and sublimity of the Swedish language" ("Svenska Språkets renhet, styrka och höghet") (Walshe, 1965). To that end the Academy publishes two dictionaries.

 Jesper Svenbro, Peter Englund, Torgny Lindgren, Göran Malmqvist, Gunnel Vallquist, Per Wästberg, Sture Allén (director), Horace Engdahl (permanent secretary), Kjell Espmark, Katarina Frostenson, Birgitta Trotzig, Bo Ralph, Kristina Lugn

The current permanent secretary of the Academy is Horace Engdahl, who was preceded by Sture Allén. Since 1901 the Academy has annually decided who will be the laureate for the Nobel Prize in Literature, awarded in memory of the donor Alfred Nobel.

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djermano
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at 02:38 on October 1st, 2008

Emilio Lizardo, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Americans can't seem to stop massaging their anger when using the pen to persuade opinions and facts to human values that transmit the secular ideology beyond the scope of warfare. He is point on fact to that revelation on top of the many financial scandals that University graduates in America have been involved with through the years. I support his decision and agree.

Rev. Jermano

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Emilio Lizardo

Thanks for the read, the comment, and the flag, Rev.

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at 03:37 on October 1st, 2008

Emilio Lizardo, That is either an arrogant statement or so true that it has to hurt some one.

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Emilio Lizardo

I really don't know if the man is correct or not - I just am not widely read enough to have any kind of an informed opinion on the matter. But I can say, now that I have travelled in the world just a little, that Americans do seem to be rather spectacularly uninformed of what's really going on in the rest of the world, a little out of step, I guess I'm trying to say ... and, based on that direct expierience of my own, I wouldn't be suprised at all if he is right.

Thanks for the read and the flag.

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Jonas, EU

Emilio,

To fill in what you just said, the Americans that I have met travelling around and wanting to meet with other people are often very well informed about what is going on. On the other hand, the people I have met during the times I have been living in the US are usually very uninformed about the rest of the world. My conclusion is also that the vast majority of Americans are ignorant in that sense, and seem to care less about what is going on outside their borders. With an exception for all the wars.

Yes, I am European. But have lived and studied in the US.

mchawk
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at 04:01 on October 1st, 2008

Emilio Lizardo, I like this story. It's good stuff.


What a pompous ass he is!  Perhaps he's just bitter that his prize is largely irrelevant to the vast majority of readers.  And saying that American writers are "too insular" just shows his ignorance of past winners. Churchill, Hemingway and Camus are the very epitome of English, American and French writers (respectively). Steinbeck wrote novels that could not be more focussed on American life.  Just how "insular" do you have to be before you're overlooked for this 'esteemed' list?

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Emilio Lizardo

Well, MC, as I say, I am not well read enough to really be conversant in the matter. Although I know Churchill and Hemingway, I had to look up Camus, who appears to have been a Frenchman, and Nobel Prize winner for literature in 1957, and who perished in a car wreck ( along with his publisher, who was driving, it seems ... ) at the relatively young age of 47 ... anyway, all three of these names are nothing like contemporary American writers, so I am not sure at all I follow your point ...

Anyway, I do appreciate the comment and the flag. Thanks for the read and for stopping by.

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at 08:04 on October 1st, 2008

The motto of the Academy is "Talent and Taste" ("Snille och Smak" in Swedish

Means 'No sniveling during work hours.'

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at 10:26 on October 1st, 2008

The evidence of American exceptionalism and hubris is everywhere.

Its payback time.

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Barry Artiste

Thar yew go usin fancy book lernin werds agin, what the hell is a hubris? Or is yew referrin to hubert ar cousin, cuz he aint no book lernin genieuz. he only gots ta grade 2, not like yew Mr,. fancy educaded Grade 5 gradiuyate.

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Emilio Lizardo

Thanks Moonwolf and Fairbanks for the flags.

Praise God and pass the ammo, Barry !!

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Fairbanks

literary historian and critic,

The real problem is that American writing is absent from world literature because it stands on its own without referencing Euro literature and so can't possibly be critiqued by a literary historian. 

Barry Artiste
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at 18:26 on October 1st, 2008

Emilio Lizardo, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Christina 123
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at 18:36 on October 1st, 2008

Emilio Lizardo, I like this story. It's good stuff.  I thought that was true of Jonathan Franzen's The Corrections:

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Speaking generally about American literature, however, he said U.S. writers are "too sensitive to trends in their own mass culture," dragging down the quality of their work.

"The U.S. is too isolated, too insular. They don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature," Engdahl said. "That ignorance is restraining."

His comments were met with fierce reactions from literary officials across the Atlantic.

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Emilio Lizardo

Thanks Barry and Christina for the flags and comments.

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djermano

The only good writing took place during the times of .Nathaniel Hawthorne,

Hughes & Hurston, Edgar Allen Poe, Mark Twain,,,,,,,,,

there is an extensive list here...

http://www.lang.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~matsuoka/AmeLit.html

Rev.

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Emilio Lizardo

I think my favorite period is the one preceeding the burning of the the libraries at Carthage, Constantinople and Alexandria ... can you imagine what was lost in those fires ?

Thanks for comment, Rev.

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jordan

I think that Engdahl is just shooting off his mouth in a reach for iconoclasm.

I'm just bitter because the Nobel Foundation held out on Dario Fo for waaaaay too long, in my opinion. As a political writer and performer, he also walked the walk, no ivory tower for this guy.


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