How Widespread Is Gang Stalking?

by PeaceFrog | November 10, 2011 at 09:10 am
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“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”

J. Edgar Hoover on COINTELPRO

     There have been books, articles, blogs, commentary, Youtube videos, etc., detailing what victims call gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques. To my knowledge, there has not been any attempt to quantify gang stalking in the U.S. in terms of the total number of participants. By participants, I mean gang stalking victims, members of gang stalking groups, flash mobs involved in community mobbing of gang stalking victims, and, persons and entities who play a peripheral role in related workplace mobbing and systematic isolation of the gang stalking target. 

      Once caught in the web of the gang stalking Program, a target is subject to a full court press that invades every aspect of their life and is calculated to destroy that person. The process is highly formulaic programmatic, systematic and systemic. Key to the destruction of a gang stalking target is a full penetration and infiltration of their environs, including their constant surveillance and harassment in their home, workplace/school mobbing of the target, and target's isolation from friends and family members. This is done in a highly formulaic, programmatic, systematic and systemic manner. This article seeks to extrapolate, largely from circumstantial evidence, how large the gang stalking Program is in terms of persons and entities involved. This article will also look at gang stalking activities and related funding issues to assess who is ultimately behind the funding and control of the gang stalking Program.      

     The starting point is the assessment of the number of victims of the gang stalking Program. The author made a FOIA request to DOJ after their release of Stalking Victimization in the United States, in January of 2009. In that FOIA request, the author asked DOJ how many victims of 3 or more stalkers were reporting that the multiple stalkers were acting in concert as a team or group. The author received a response showing, that according to DOJ statistics, 185,050 persons in the U.S. were being stalked by teams or groups of between "3" and "50" stalkers. See links:

  http://www.multistalkervictims.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf

  http://www.osnanaimo.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf      

     The author previously wrote an article in which he pointed out flaws in the methodology used in the Stalking Report that resulted in an under-reporting of the number of gang stalking victims, and argued that an accurate number was at least 350,000. See link:

  http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-new-doj-foia-documents-prove-doj-knows-truth    

     In any event, this article will be using the range of 185,000 to 350,000 gang stalking Program victims in assessing the parameters of the Program in terms of persons involved in the Program. We will also consider gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques as widely and uniformly reported in various articles, blogs, books, commentary, the Urban Dictionary, etc., on the subject, to quantify the number of persons involved in the gang stalking Program from features of the Program widely and uniformly reported in the numerous accounts of the Program in articles, blogs, etc.    

     The first element of the gang stalking Program we will analyze is the constant surveillance and related harassment of the gang stalking victim 24/7/365 as is a widely and uniformly reported feature of the Program. From what is being reported, in terms of surveillance and related harassment, at least one member of a gang stalking group has to be surveilling a gang stalking target at all times. This means that at least one person is involved in surveilling the gang stalking victim 168 hours a week. This means that approximately 4 full-time jobs are involved in the constant surveillance of a single gang stalking Program victim. Since gang stalking victims are subject to harassment, conspicuous surveillance, flash mobbing, street theatre and related tactics everywhere they go, inside and outside their community, there are additional gang stalking group members involved in the illegal surveillance and related harassment of gang stalking victims in the community. Clearly, these groups multi-task surveillance and harassment activities against multiple gang stalking Program targets in a given community in which the respective gang stalking group operates. It is safe to say that at least a handful of gang stalking group members are needed to illegally surveill and harass a Program victim as they travel within and outside their communities. It is also clear that gang stalking groups multi-task and harass numerous targets that travel in and through a given community in which the particular gang stalking group operates. It is also conservative to estimate that at least one or two gang stalking members per target are involved in coordinating gang stalking activities against targets of the Program when said targets are "on the move" in addition to the bare minimum of 4 gang stalking group members needed to keep the Program target under constant surveillance. This equates to a total of 5 or 6 gang stalking group members per gang stalking target at minimum. If we take the conservative estimate of 5.5 gang stalking group members per target and apply it to our range of 185,000 to 350,000 we get about 1 million to 2 million gang stalking group members.    

     The gang stalking group members are drawn heavily from the Penal System under the guidance of the Department of Homeland Security. One victim, who is an ex-con, tried to post the following on the Wikipedia page on Stalking by Groups:

"Mostly the groups are x-cons or convicts released early out of jail or prison to join this program were to monitor and or track innocent people and report anything so they will end up in jail or even worse be assassinated by the group if the head agent in charge gives them a green lite on the persons life which means to kill them. I am a victim of this and not only my life but my children's lives are in danger because i am well aware of every thing they have done to me over the years."

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      It is important to note that the 1 million to 2 million estimate of gang stalking group members is an estimate of the people coordinating the illegal surveillance and harassment against targets as part of a territorial, hierarchical group with a defined membership. This estimate does not include non-members who are loosely affiliated and join in on the gang stalking activities, such as flash mobbing and street theatre, on a semi-permanent or ad hoc basis. These semi-permanent members range from neighbors and community groups coerced, or misled by a slander campaign against the gang stalking target, into participation in the the Program, to vagrant types given a few bucks to participate. Most of the storefront businesses, community groups and many of the neighbors involved in the Program are not members of gang stalking groups, but, will harass and mistreat the gang stalking target because of coercion used against them by the gang stalking groups, or, because they buy into a slander campaign villifying the Program target as deserving of such treatment. Gang stalking Program targets represent a fraction of a percent of the communities they live in. The neighbors, storefront businesses, community groups coerced and/or misled into involvement in the gang stalking Program nationwide represent additional millions of participants in the Program.    

     In order to destroy the target, an infiltration of every aspect of that target's life is performed. This means that not only are neighbors and neighborhood businesses recruited to participate, but, that employers, friends and family members are turned against the target. This involves workplace mobbing at each workplace the Program target works. This also means that friends, associates, co-workers and blood relatives are subject to coercion and slander campaigns against the target. This requires the Program to reach dozens of individuals per target.     

    Most of the above-mentioned categories of people,to wit, neighbors, neighborhood groups, businesses, employers, friends, relatives, etc., are not gang stalking group members. Rather, these participantss, who are far more numerous than the 1 to 2 million gang stalking group members nationwide, participate in the Program because they are either coereced and/or misled by slander campaigns against the Program target. Gang stalking victims quickly realize that friends, co-workers, and even intimates are really "frenemies" looking to undermine them. Some of these frenemies are emotionally unstable, psychologically draining individuals with dysthymic disorder. More importantly, some of these frenemies are likely to have been placed on the gang stalking victim even before the active phase of gang stalking began. These frenemies are chosen because they are psychologically weak and some digging will reveal other questionable relationships in which these same frenemy tools have been placed on other gang stalking victims. Again, this happens to mirror the law enforcement practice of placing a "bad jacket" on a mark. Certain employers are gang stalking mills, intentionally hiring Program targets for workplace mobbing and constructive termination because their owners are particularly vulnerable to blackmail and other coercive tactics.  

      Below is a a link to the testimony of a gang stalker explaining "the syndicate" and its operations, funding, lingo, interactions with civil institutions, etc. The gang stalker describes a coercion daisy chain in which he too is at the mercy of the mob and would have to sacrifice his wife and family if ordered to by "higher ups". Of course, anyone weak-minded enough to follow this Program is blind to the wider implications of social engineering and political control technology imposed by the criminalized intelligence services using him as a tool of structural political oppression against the wider public. The public is ultimately seen as the enemy by the power elite and their well fed and trained dogs in the intelligence and security apparatus:

http://gangstalkingsurfers.wordpress.com/confessions-of-a-gang-stalker-aka-life-in-the-syndicate/

          All gang stalking targets experience an updated and refined version of McCarthy era blacklisting. This involves being hired, then, soon after, being subject to a hostile work environment, resulting in actual or constructive termination. Because of the sheer number of employers involved in this nefarious practice against gang stalking targets, as well as the fact that employers ranging from small businesses to large multinationals are involved, this neo-blacklisting can only be being orchestrated by the FBI, as was the case with McCarthyism. Unlike McCarthyism, neo-blacklisting, with its use of a hostile wok environment leading to actual or constructive termination, is not subject to the inference that a blacklisted target is being subject to defamation leading to un-employability, because they are indeed hired, then promptly set up for failure. Gang stalking targets’ “employment problems” start at the same time as their gang stalking starts. Most gang stalking targets, similar to victims of workplace mobbing, are actually better than average workers in their occupations.  

      All gang stalking targets experience workplace mobbing and academic mobbing. Ken Westhues, Sociology Professor Emeritus at University of Waterloo, Canada, writes about the causal link between academic and workplace mobbing and the rash of mass shootings:

"Most of the people who go postal, however, in academic as in other workplaces, have been mobbed there in preceding months or years."

http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/vtmassacre.htm

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/academic-study-links-mass-shootings-community-mobbing

     The term "community mobbing" is a defined term of art in the field of Sociology. Community mobbing is the systematic use of  bullying, rumor, innuendo, intimidation, humiliation, discrediting isolation, and general harassment in which the group ("mob") attacks a targeted individual:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing

     Academic studies have shown that mobbing has severe health consequences:

In mobbing targets with PTSD, Leymann notes that the "mental effects were fully comparable with PTSD from war or prison camp experiences. Some patients may develop alcoholism or other substance abuse disorders. Family relationships routinely suffer. Some targets may even develop brief psychotic episodes, generally with paranoid symptoms. Leymann estimated that 15% of suicides in Sweden could be directly attributed to workplace mobbing.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing#Mobbing_in_the_workplace    

     Calgary Professor Hugo A. Meynell has publicly compared workplace mobbing to ethnic cleansing, and, has described the workplace mobbing victim as "a little holocaust" happening daily in our civilized workplaces:

http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/meynell-hh.htm

     This country has now entered a phase of false "Democratism". This is an illusion of a two party system in which a plutocracy runs a right wing totalitarian state and hollows out any semblance of constitutional due process. The First, Second, and Fourth Amendments are particularly under siege. It appears that the operation of the American Red Guard/ American Stasi is meeting armed resistance. The mass shooting "epidemic" in America is a result of the occupation of the lives of gang stalking targets by the fascist operatus implemented against them by their government. Unlike the former U.S.S.R., Red China, Nazi Germany, etc., the widespread ownership of guns in civilian hands in America is at odds with the de facto national Gestapo system known as gang stalking. Ironically, as Wikileaks represented the example par excellence of a First Amendment insurgency against a proto-fascist America, so too, the mass shootings, however misguided the chosen targets, represent a Second Amendment revolt against fascist tyranny.

 http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310

     The gang stalking Program is highly systematic, programmatic and systemic. Information about it dispensed to participants outside the gang stalking groups themselves is disinformational, misinformational and largely compartmentalized or "stovepiped". The total amount of Program participants, as described herein, can easily exceed 100 to every 1 gang stalking Program target. This means that 10% of the U.S. population may be participating in the gang stalking Program, most only having a vague notion of the larger Program called gang stalking by its victims. These numbers are consistent with the civil population involvement with the intelligence communities in former Eastern Bloc. It is noteworthy that the author has multiple sources stating that middle aged persons from the former Eastern Bloc, who are not even fluent in English, are participating in the gang stalking Program in the U.S., as if they imported the techniques directly from Eastern Europe. Similarly, the urban storefront businesses in this country are often run by immigrants originating from third world police states where noncompliance with authority is regularly met by brutal state reaction (disappearances, murder, rape, beatings, etc). This prior social conditioning of recent immigrants makes it easy work for the big city American police departments who run the gang stalking Program for the Feds to incorporate them into the Program.        

     Community-based policing, similar to gang stalking, is today, and has been for decades, the preferred tool of third-world societal control. A good example of this is Syria, where 20 percent of the population is working for the intelligence agencies. See: "When 20 per cent of the population is rumored to be in the intelligence service, it is no wonder, many prefer to keep their voices down in the light of day. But within a crowd, that fear is temporarily forgotten." Link to full story:

  http://rt.com/news/intelligence-violence-security-fear-243/

     In the U.S., the use of a growing percentage of the population in national "neighborhood watch Programs" has been instrumental in building a Stasi-like citizen spy network:

     In 1981, national data showed that 12 percent of the population was involved in some type of neighborhood watch group (O'Keefe and Mendelsohn, 1984). By 1988, it was estimated that between seven and 20 percent of residents of U.S. cities were involved in such activities (Rosenbaum, 1988). A national study (Whitaker, 1986) showed that 38 percent of households in neighborhoods that had a Neighborhood Watch program participated in the program. This study concluded that urban areas were more likely to have programs than suburban or rural areas, but that people living in the latter were likely to be involved in a program if one was organized. 

full link:

http://www.usaonwatch.org/about/neighborhoodwatch.aspx?

     This community policing model whether based on former Eastern Bloc countries, Syria, or gang stalking in the U.S., requires the deputizing, and putting on the payroll, a large swathe of the criminal element.

     What is also common about all community policing models, including gang stalking in America, is that only the government has the money to fund them. Neighbors moving into housing units surrounding a Program target. Gang stalking perps with no job or means driving around in new model trucks. Gang stalking is happening not only in big cities but in rural areas and every demographic in between. One can find reports of it happening in every state, every county, every city, and almost every town in America. We are talking about Billions of dollars in funding here. All segments of the social order are co-opted into the Program. Targets will experience harassment, such as street theate and mobbing, by vagrants, others on the welfare rolls, city workers, etc. The total societal penetration reaches into their doctors offices, employers, neighbors, etc., right out of the former Eastern Bloc playbook. 

     Some argue that narcotics and other rackets fund gang stalking which, unlike every other racket, has no self-funding mechanism. The problem with this explanation is that because of criminal defense legal fees, civil forfeiture, mandatory victim compensation laws, etc., it is increasingly the case that racketeering wealth is less likely to be passed on generationally than it is to be confiscated  and appropriated by the state.

     "Gang stalking groups" have a substantially identical modus operandi to the FBI's Special Surveillance Groups or "SSG's". These SSG's were developed in the 1970's to combat Soviet espionage. Today, these tactics have been taught to criminals, through FBI channels, for domestic COINTELPRO operations against American citizens. Anyone familiar with gang stalking will immediately understand the striking similarity by reviewing the following NPR links on SSG's:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0UibgHIZg

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92207687

http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/surveillance/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Surveillance_Group

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Spying_on_spy_Raw_Story_interviews_0612.html

     Yale Psychologist Stanley Milgram's "small world" experiment concluded that about 1 in 6 people were sufficient to link to every member of a population (this later became the "six degrees of separation" principle). The 1 million to 2 million estimate for gang stalking group members is sufficient to explain the manpower needed to coordinate constant fixed and mobile surveillance against gang stalking vicitims numbering in the hundreds of thousands. The number of people needed to explain the highly consistent gang stalking accounts of hundreds of thousands of Program victims nationwide is exponentially higher.

     The FBI and local police "red squad" units (Association of Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) are not performing th grunt work of illegal surveillance and harassment of gang stalking targets. Rather, Snitches are being used to do the "community policing" and legwork for related COINTELPRO activities. These Snitches are essentially slave labor for law enforcement. The same model was used as the "Ghetto cop" by Nazis, and the "proletariat" citizen spy by the Communists. This country has a history of using criminal labor for social engineering campaigns. Ward Churchill documented the cultural Genocide of the American Indian as late as the 1980's. This was accomplished through sending Native American children to government "assimilation" camps run by criminals to separate them from their families and culture. The resulting beatings, rapes and other deprivations suffered as a result of this "assimilation" led to some of the highest unemployment, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, etc., rates of any racial/ethnic demographic in American history. All the above is consistent with the trend of delegating much of "police work" to deputized criminal subagents. A great example is the statistic that 50% of federal narcotics cases are made through criminal informants; See link:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Snit

     Key to understanding the nefarious snitch system is not only recognizing the sheer number of snitches, but also understanding the concept of the police creating the "snitch for life". Deferred prosecution/deferred sentencing agreements give police at all levels of government the option of giving felons facing long-term or life sentences an indefinite deferment as long as they keep snitching. These agreements can be more or less formal, but, always entail continued deferment of punishment while the criminal continues cooperation with authorities through the voluntary waiver of the statute of limitations. Most people, including criminals, do not know that the statute of limitations (usually 5 years for federal felonies) can and is commonly waived by cooperating criminals. This means that career or part-time criminals, facing sentencing, for example, under Rockefeller drug laws, can become long-term assets informing for decades. They can operate and inform under changing scenarios as their employers, friends and associates change over time. The policy question here is, does the informant trading liability by shifting it to other criminals provide a "public service" by doing so? Can we consider this self-interested criminals information or testimony as being disinterested as in the case of a disinterested citizen witness? Hardly, I'd say.   

      The FBI can orchestrate gang stalking with little or no overt presence. This was how COINTELPRO was designed. Through infiltration and the cultivation of snitches, the FBI ferments division within targeted groups, such as organized crime. The desired result is increasing the factionalizing or splitting within targeted groups, and, between targeted groups, resulting in the self destruction and mutual destruction of FBI targeted groups. This is achieved with little or no traces of direct FBI activity within these groups. Essentially, the most effective thing about COINTELPRO, is psychological manipulation of the targeted groups' members.

     In the case of "generational victims", entire families are targeted by the Program for multiple generations. A key to understanding this is comprehending that systematic and systemic coercion will be used against both members of the nuclear and extended targeted family. Machiavellian "splitting" techniques as well as organized crime-style methods will be used to divide and destroy the targeted family. It is important to note that only a minority of these targeted families' members will experience full blown gang stalking (street theatre, flash mobbing, slander campaigns, intimate infiltration, employment sabotage, 24/7/365 surveillance and harassment, etc.). Some blogs and commentators write about a "preconditioning phase" before the onset of full blown gang stalking. During this preconditioning phase, the prospective future gang stalking victim is exposed to public rudeness, rudeness by employers, etc., to start breaking them down psychologically. The methods used during preconditioning to gang stalking are similar to predatory methods of cult abuse and MKULTRA-type abuse. Generational victims family members would all undergo the preconditioning phase of gang stalking, while only a minority of family members will proceed to full blown gang stalking. Ironically, the resilient, anti-authoritarian types will be of greater risk of becoming full blown gang stalking victims. The personalities of prospective gang stalking victims will be heavily profiled and any exploitable weaknesses duly noted during the preconditioning phase.

     The Leninist concept of organizing a "controlled opposition" is central to the gang stalking Program's cover-up. The FBI's use of controlled opposition (phony government operatives and groups posing as opposition) in COINTELPRO is well documented. Ward Churchill writes about this in the context of AIM, the KKK and other groups subjected to COINTELPRO in The COINTELPRO Papers linked below (this book is a must read for anyone who wants to understand COINTELPRO): 

http://www.krusch.com/books/kennedy/Cointelpro_Papers.pdf

    The controlled opposition, which has its origins in Lenin's Soviet Union, and, Mao's Red Guard, is clearly at play in the gang stalking Program:

 "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.'"

Vladimir Lenin (the FBI has learned Lenin's teachings well).

     To give a historical analogue to gang stalking , the below linked film, Stasiland, examines the East German surveillance society that is considered the gold standard for the modern police state:

http://www.youtube.com/user/phrygian20?blend=22&ob=5#p/u/0/HClXxgCPAjY

     An excellent overview of the criminalization of American intelligence agencies is given by former N.O.C. MI-6 agent Christopher Story in his book New Underworld Order :

http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/theknoll/rr/The_New_Underworld_Order%20-%20Christopher_Story.pdf

     Pay specific attention to Chapter 8, at p. 529, et. seq. Story's partial biography is found on his Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Story

     Retired Sheriff Richard Mack on the oath to the Constitution versus federal tyranny and cronyism:

http://www.nullifynow.com/2012/02/richard-mack-the-untouchable-bill-of-rights/

     Furthermore, upon information and belief, the author herein believes that the following mass murders are likely related to the "gang stalking" Program:

James E. Holmes

Terence Tyler

One L. Goh

Scott Dekraai         

John Turner
Yvonne Hiller
Amy Bishop
Shareef Allman
Jiverly Wong
Cho Seung-Hui

Ross Truett Ashley (visited same gun range as Cho Seung-Hui)
Abdo Ibssa
Nidal Malik Hassan
Jared Loughner

Christopher Nathen Elliot Travis

T.J. Lane

Andrew J. Engeldinger

Lawrence Jones

Raulie Wayne Casteel

Jacob Tyler Roberts

Jeffrey Lee Michael

Adam Lanza

William H. Spengler, Jr.

Bryan Oliver

Nehemiah Griego

Arthur Douglas Harmon

Christopher Jordan Dorner

 Nahn Lap Tran  

Ali Syed

Kurt R. Myers

James Oliver Seevakumaran

Dylan Quick

Neil MacInnis

See Appendix of link below:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/counterterrorism/ActiveShooter2012Edition.pdf 

          Note that the author is not claiming definitive proof of gang stalking in each case, but rather, indicia of gang stalking in each case. Moreover, the author is not claiming to know whether other incidents of mass violence relate back to the "gang stalking" Program, but he suspects there are other such incidents.      

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Why is Wikipedia Censoring Mainstream News about Gang Stalking? | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/why-wikipedia-censoring-mainstream-news-about-gang-stalking#ixzz1gGhM9yPz

    

 

 

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PeaceFrog

     A hallmark of COINTELPRO was inserting agitators in groups and having them make accusations against members, calling them traitors and double agents.
     You should know this well trolling articles with your consistently negative accusations. The worst part about your schtick is that you are a proven hypocrite.


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PeaceFrog

     Dozens of legitimate targets with whom I have personally communicated have described intimate and family penetration by criminal subagents of the Program as part of the systematic Standard Operating Procedure of the Program. That is my experience, whether readers choose to believe it or not, or, otherwise know it to be true from their experience, is their concern.

     Again I will not be bullied into publishing my account, an endeavor proven to be useless, and, therefore advocated by disinformation artists like yourself.

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PeaceFrog

     I'll let the 8,500 readers of this article decide if it rings true based on their life experience in the Program. That number is within a few hits of all of your articles combined since you started agitprop disinformation on this site in March, 2009. 

     Of course, in all of your long-winded, pedantic, disinformational commentary, you do not state "let the reader decide". No one outside of the weak minded and broken will find you legitimate. 

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anonacom

batvette is like the implement you hook to the back of a tractor that flings manure.

In other words, he is "full of shit" and spreads it wherever he goes.

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anon com

batvette,   Why don't you do something productive.  If you have a genuine interest in ending GS,  write articles, do something, do anything.  You're presence here is counterproductive.

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La Cucuracha

LOL, "No government agency wastes time, money and material on NO  REASON."  LOL.  You clearly know nothing about the Federal Government.   They LOVE wasting money on wild goose chases.  TSA?  DHS?   It's not about guilt or innocence or defending the country; it's about keeping the "defense" contractors rolling in dough and able to give the politicians their cut.  Grow up.

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PeaceFrog

    Your accusation that this article presents "false information" and is made up disinformation is merely your personal opinion. No one knows exactly what the Program details are. Targets are in the same position as victims of the original COINTELPRO, who, although better organized, had a very incomplete picture of the government's Program decades ago. Your intimation that you are somehow in a position to "tell the truth" in this situation is self-righteous idiocy. Everyone approaching this issue must rely on intuition and discernment in constructing a working hypothesis from imperfect circumstantial and anecdotal evidence at their disposal. Whether my articles present useful material for targets is a matter for targets to decide.

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PeaceFrog

Whats happening here is identical to the NAZI/Stalinist/Stasi models of total destruction of privacy, the nuclear family, and individual property rights. This leads to the ascendancy of an official criminal order with no constitutional restraints, or, any other restraints. 

     Christopher Story, who was a high level NOC MI-6, and, ran an international monetary/political journal, wrote about this at length. I refer the reader to pay specific attention to Chapter 8, p. 529, et. seq.:

http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/theknoll/rr/The_New_Underworld_Order%20-%20Christopher_Story.pdf

     Story handled Soviet spies/defectors, as well as former Nazi's embedded in intelligence agencies (including the CIA), and, he affiliated with the highest levels of American, British and other central intelligence agencies. He was an adviser to Thatcher. His Wikipedia page gives partial credentials:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Story



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NO-INTEL-PRO

Bullshit. Ever hear of profiling? And you admit that they're doing this everywhere!

WHY? They don't need a reason why. Only the go-ahead from some faceless bureaucracy gets you on the public surveillance list.

And the people involved in this "public surveillance" are sadistic as all hell. Take it from somebody who's been on the butt end of the "public surveillance" list for a long time. The brownshirts are everywhere.

As if. But it's just "social paranoia" -- bullshit if it is.

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PeaceFrog

     These same techniques of penetrating friends and family date back to the COINTELPRO of the 1950's. Identical techniques were documented in Dr. Bruce Ivans forced suicide and the witch hunt of Dr. Steven Hatfill (resulting in a $6,000,000 settlement from the FBI). This all happened without "satellite mind control".

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Jane Doe

The Evildoers are able to co-opt family members and friends with a cock and bull story, flattery, and the threat that if the family member or friend "tells" on the authority figure, the family member or friend is committing a "national security sin" and  they'll be prosecuted. This makes the snitch feel vulnerable (and very important).  Because of their access to full audio and video surveillance, the American nationwide secret police also knows who, among the victim's relatives, have resentments toward the victim -- angers, jealousies -- in other words, the emotions common to all families and friends. The salaried bureaucratic psychopaths exploit these emotions to the detriment of the victim -- and to society as a whole. The Psychopaths in Charge are not defending America but brutalizing its moral fiber.

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NO-INTEL-PRO

Yes, that's Riiiiight! NO REASON. (As if a reason would justify it.)

And I'm talking about intrusive private and public surveillance, gaslighting, harassment, intimidation and yes -- psyops and even covert torture.

That you can't even begin to wrap your head around it speaks volumes about how much you actually know about it.

But as long as they're able to get people like you to muck up the issue while riding on your high horses - well, they're doing their jobs admirably.

Think you're one of the good guys, do you?

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PeaceFrog

     Batvette,

     As I've pointed out repeatedly, you're attacking of gang stalking victims and threats of taking their stories apart "one by one" while claiming that you are a gang stalking victim is a MALICIOUS LIE.

     You have made a huge deal out of the Gunderson statement not being an "affidavit" at law. Even if you are right, the Gunderson stement is admissible pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1746 even without the notary page.

      What is a mere technical difference between an affidavit and a declaration (both admissible in Federal Court) compared to your entire persona being a fraud on TI's?

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PeaceFrog

     I will not be bullied into giving you or anyone else a personal narrative. As far as personal narratives, they are useless in the context of a Program that is systematic and systemic. What is described by gang stalking either by David Lawson, gangstalkingworld.com, Eleanor White, is substantially identical. The fact is that the federal government of the US routinely falsifies reality through disinformation, coercion, bribery, etc.

     As far as my own situation is concerned, I choose to say  that I have firsthand knowledge regarding mafia-style tactics, including coercion, being used against targeted individuals' friends and family, that all relate back to the Program. These tactics of coercion, blackmail, railroading family members, turning friends, etc. are well known Standard Operating Procedure in the Intelligence Community. 

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     Again, your own comment unmasks you as a Liar and Fraud who pretends to be a "gang stalking target" in long-winded articles and comments, and then goes on to discredit gang stalking victims life stories and deny the very existence of the gang stalking Program.

     You are a Hypocrite and you are on the losing side of history.

 

 

 

 

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PeaceFrog

     Gang stalking has been going on for much longer than ten years. 1 out 3 participants in my gang stalking poll on zoho.com report being targeted for over 10 years. The fact that aspects of community policing were ramped up after 9/11 does not speak to the issue of how long gang stalking has been going on for.

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Liz Blandra

Too bad that Ted's dead.  He'd probably issue another statement to replace the current one.  He'd probably do it just to shut you up.  But you'd then find something else...

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PeaceFrog

      I KNOW THE VICTIMS/TI'S ARE COMPETENT ENOUGH TO READ YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE AND MY LAST ARTICLE ON WIKIPEDIA CENSORSHIP AND CLEARLY READ THAT YOU MADE THESE STATEMENTS CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY.

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PeaceFrog

BATVETTE,

     ANY GANG STALKING VICTIM WHO READS YOUR COMMENTS, INCLUDING THE ONE ABOVE THAT I AM RESPONDING TO, AND DOES NOT HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO AVOID YOU LIKE THE PLAGUE, IS BEYOND ANYONE'S HELP.

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     TO CLARIFY:

     I BELIEVE THAT GANG STALKING IS A GOVERNMENTAL PROGRAM LED BY THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. THE FACT THAT IT IS NATIONWIDE AND VERY PROGRAMMATIC, SYSTEMATIC AND SYSTEMIC, AND, THE FACT THAT IT HAS NO WAY OF FUNDING ITSELF AS SUCH, DICTATE THAT IT IS THE GOVERNMENT BEHIND IT.

     MANY TOOLS, AS LISTED BY YOU, SUCH AS ORGANIZED CRIME, SNITCHES, ETC., ARE COERCED, BRIBED AND/OR MISLED INTO PARTICIPATION. BTW, YOUR LIST OF DUPES AND TOOLS PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM IS FAR FROM EXCLUSIVE.

     ALSO, GUNDERSON HAS STATED UNDER OATH THAT THERE IS SATANIC CULT INVOLVEMENT AND ALSO CHILD TRAFFICKING LINKED TO IT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ROLE SATANIC CULTS OR CHILD TRAFFICKING PLAY IN THIS, AND NEVER HAVE MADE ANY AFFIRMATIVE REPRESENTATION THAT EITHER SATANIC CULTS OR CHILD TRAFFICKING ARE LINKED TO GANG STALKING. I DID NOT HAVE EDITORIAL CONTROL OVER THE GUNDERSON AFFIDAVIT, ALTHOUGH I HELPED TO DRAFT IT.

     BTW, ANYONE WISHING TO READ THE ZOHO.COM POLL COMMENTS WILL SEE A GREAT VARIETY OF COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF MY POLL AND ARTICLES, AS WELL AS CRITICISM, THAT I CAN LIVE WITH SINCE I AM NOT THE OBVIOUS MEGALOMANIAC YOU ARE! 

HERE IS BATVETTE'S DISINFORMATION:

Batvette,

DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media  and IM to organize;

DENIES Noise Campaigns

DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;

DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;

DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;

STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters"; 

STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";

THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";

BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.

 

 

 

 

DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media  and IM to organize;

DENIES Noise Campaigns

DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;

DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;

DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;

STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters"; 

STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";

THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";

BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.



Continue reading at NowPublic.com: How Widespread Is Gang Stalking? | NowPublic News Coverage, Page 3 http://my.nowpublic.com/world/how-widespread-gang-stalking#ixzz1dsIUpQmR

 

   

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Elizabeth Blandra

batvette,  You're a bully.  And I am not PeaceFrog  But you continue with your bullying rants.  Lost in the verbal fray, of course, is the truth about gang stalking.

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PeaceFrog

batvette's words (Go to:  www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-new-doj-foia-documents-prove-doj-knows-truth, posted in September of 2010) ......... No offence guys but I just dont see why its so hard for any of you to provide some kind of real evidence about this.......... What would you consider "real evidence"? The presumption is the whole point is to make the target appear to have mental issues, while using technology that verifiably exists and the gov't admits it must test on its own citizens, but is undetectable by any equipment available to the public, to harass people and make living a productive life impossible. The roles of individuals presumed to be volunteering for this for "public service" pre-empts any overt criminal activity on their part. ......... Click on my user name and go to a video I have on youtube showing an incident 2 years ago in my yard. Those people were doing something much more than finding a frisbee in open sight. What does it prove to you? Nothing, of course. ......... Another thing I dont understand is why the hell anyone would bother wasting all that effort to harrass people when it achieves nothing.......... In my case without offering incriminating testimony I can say there are tangible reasons for these people, assuming they are who people think they are, to run me out of town so to speak. However for others the reasons may be less clear but consider this: What does the military do when it waits around for the next war to start? It practices. It drills. The police do the same with their SWAT teams. ......... Achieves nothing? Considering we think a lot of government may be at the heart of this, when has that been a requirement? Not like they'd create chaos to give themselves something to do, huh? ......... This is about command and control of society, if no real bad guys exist in a certain neighborhood they will presumably pick someone they can justify putting into the grinder to keep the troops busy, and this leaves me with the most disturbing point of all:......... It's likely not about US at all. Not the value or benefit of getting rid of us, but keeping a certain segment of society busy- whether employed or volunteer. ......... If you are still having a hard time getting your mind on this, ask yourself this:......... Why do  some men go to great trouble to go hunting.... when there is plentiful meat at their local store, much cheaper and less trouble? ......... Have you ever known anyone who was really ruthless... needed to kick someone's ass on a regular basis, say, weekly- or they didn't feel satisfied? I have. On a lesser scale there are those whose sociopathic tendancies need to be satisfied to keep them productive in society. If they weren't "hunting" us what would they be doing?......... It is believed the government was very worried about the growing right wing militant-anarchist movements in the late 90's after Waco and Ruby Ridge. One thing we can verify as factual is that the government went to great lengths to recruit people after 9/11 into active roles policing their communities for "terrorists". ......... There are no ****ing terrorists in our communities. I used to get a few of my friends together on friday after we got paid and split a big bag of pot. I made little secret of it. According to the government I am a narco-terrorist. ......... This is facism at work. You can disbelieve it, or be vigilant against it.



 

 

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PeaceFrog

     John A. Lucier I have pointed out numerous accounts of your position denying every gang stalking method/technique in the gang stalking playbook. YOU DENY: involvement by large numbers of people in gang stalking groups, noise campaigns, slander campaigns, flash mobbing of victims, workplace mobbing of victims, etc. These gang stalking methods have not only appeared on websites dedicated to gang stalking but also on whosarat.com, on on several FOX NEWS stories.

     Bottom line: BATVETTE IS A DISINFORMATION ARTIST ATTEMPTING TO DENY EVERYTHING EXPERIENCED AND REPORTED BY GANG STALKING VICTIMS, MOCK AND "TAKE APART" GANG STALKING VICTIM'S LIFE STORIES "ONE AT A TIME", AND CONTINUE TO STATE THAT HE IS A GANG STALKING VICTIM.

     IN ESSENCE YOU'RE ARGUING THAT "PERSECUTORY DELUSIONS" ACCOUNT FOR ALL OTHER GANG STALKING VICTIM'S DAILY LIFE EXPERIENCES AND THAT ONLY YOU, UNLIKE EVERY OTHER VICTIM, HAS A GRIP ON REALITY AND CAN SEE THAT GANG STALKING IS A MATTER OF A "FEW PEOPLE" IN THE COMMUNITY HARASSING VICTIMS AS PART OF SOME MAINSTREAM GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM.

     JOHN LUCIER A.K.A. BATVETTE, YOU ARE FULL OF SHYTE!

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PeaceFrog

Batvette writes,

what I am denying here in these comments is the stupid shyte YOU have been claiming...

     Nice try at distorting your own numerous disparaging statements against gang stalking victims, and statements denying gang stalking methods, as rebutting against my claims. Unfortunately for you, people can read your statements, as accurately recounted by me, to see that your attacking gang stalking victims as a group, and this is far from a Batvette/Peacefrog debate. Here are some of your "opinions" on gang stalking:

DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media  and IM to organize;

DENIES Noise Campaigns

DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;

DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;

DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;

STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters"; 

STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";

THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";



 

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     I produced FOIA documents that were unknown to gang stalking victims:

http://www.multistalkervictims.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf

http://www.osnanaimo.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf

     I brought it to the attention of gang stalking victims and a Federal Court that the taxpayer funded NCVC is systematically ignoring thousnads of gang stalking complaints it receives every month from nationwide:

http://osnanaimo.org/ncvccalls.htm

     I co-drafted an affidavit with a former FBI Section Chief who was one of a handful to be interviewed for FBI Director in 1979:

http://www.randomcollection.info/gunderson.pdf

     YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING OTHER THAN BULLY, HARASS AND ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT GANG STALKING VICTIMS, AND, ATTEMPT TO DISMISS THE SERIOUSNESS OF GANG STALKING.

YOU ARE A LIAR AND FRAUD

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     You have the nerve to question whether I am a TI when you claim to be a TI and have stated thus:

DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media  and IM to organize;

DENIES Noise Campaigns

DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;

DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;

DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;

STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters"; 

STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";

THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";

HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK OS VICTIMS ARE?

 

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PeaceFrog

     Jane Doe makes some good points.

     Of course there are no prosecutions, the entire snitch system is designed to insulate the snitch from prosecution with her cooperation with police as a quid pro quo. The blatant misuse of this system allows law enforcement to misuse snitches for entrapment, illegal surveillance, harassment, essentially as slaves. This is what makes the gang stalking Program viable- slave labor. As far as difficulty getting to friends and family members, you are overstating this Batvatte. The amount of coercion at play is enormous. The Program will put an uncooperative friend or family member through the grind, they will become the next gang stalking victim in the Program assembly line.

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reposting

This "program" cannot be allowed to continue.  It's sadistic, vicious and has to be stopped.

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     Again, your own comment unmasks you as a Liar and Fraud who pretends to be a "gang stalking target" in long-winded articles and comments, and then goes on to discredit gang stalking victims life stories and deny the very existence of the gang stalking Program.

     You are a Hypocrite and you are on the losing side of history.

 

 

 

 

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PeaceFrog

Batvette,

     The nature of my articles is a nonpersonalized, objective inquiry into gang stalking. Personal narrative accounts are useless, the government knows more than the victims and the stalker tools combined.

     The nature of my legal petition (BTW you petition a court which rules not legislates-since your so into details you should learn some basics) is to uncover what the government documents reveal about its records related to gang stalking. My gang stalking lawsuit, like my articles has little to do with my experience as a TI.

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