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How Widespread Is Gang Stalking?
“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”
J. Edgar Hoover on COINTELPRO
There have been books, articles, blogs, commentary, Youtube videos, etc., detailing what victims call gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques. To my knowledge, there has not been any attempt to quantify gang stalking in the U.S. in terms of the total number of participants. By participants, I mean gang stalking victims, members of gang stalking groups, flash mobs involved in community mobbing of gang stalking victims, and, persons and entities who play a peripheral role in related workplace mobbing and systematic isolation of the gang stalking target.
Once caught in the web of the gang stalking Program, a target is subject to a full court press that invades every aspect of their life and is calculated to destroy that person. The process is highly formulaic programmatic, systematic and systemic. Key to the destruction of a gang stalking target is a full penetration and infiltration of their environs, including their constant surveillance and harassment in their home, workplace/school mobbing of the target, and target's isolation from friends and family members. This is done in a highly formulaic, programmatic, systematic and systemic manner. This article seeks to extrapolate, largely from circumstantial evidence, how large the gang stalking Program is in terms of persons and entities involved. This article will also look at gang stalking activities and related funding issues to assess who is ultimately behind the funding and control of the gang stalking Program.
The starting point is the assessment of the number of victims of the gang stalking Program. The author made a FOIA request to DOJ after their release of Stalking Victimization in the United States, in January of 2009. In that FOIA request, the author asked DOJ how many victims of 3 or more stalkers were reporting that the multiple stalkers were acting in concert as a team or group. The author received a response showing, that according to DOJ statistics, 185,050 persons in the U.S. were being stalked by teams or groups of between "3" and "50" stalkers. See links:
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf
http://www.osnanaimo.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf
The author previously wrote an article in which he pointed out flaws in the methodology used in the Stalking Report that resulted in an under-reporting of the number of gang stalking victims, and argued that an accurate number was at least 350,000. See link:
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-new-doj-foia-documents-prove-doj-knows-truth
In any event, this article will be using the range of 185,000 to 350,000 gang stalking Program victims in assessing the parameters of the Program in terms of persons involved in the Program. We will also consider gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques as widely and uniformly reported in various articles, blogs, books, commentary, the Urban Dictionary, etc., on the subject, to quantify the number of persons involved in the gang stalking Program from features of the Program widely and uniformly reported in the numerous accounts of the Program in articles, blogs, etc.
The first element of the gang stalking Program we will analyze is the constant surveillance and related harassment of the gang stalking victim 24/7/365 as is a widely and uniformly reported feature of the Program. From what is being reported, in terms of surveillance and related harassment, at least one member of a gang stalking group has to be surveilling a gang stalking target at all times. This means that at least one person is involved in surveilling the gang stalking victim 168 hours a week. This means that approximately 4 full-time jobs are involved in the constant surveillance of a single gang stalking Program victim. Since gang stalking victims are subject to harassment, conspicuous surveillance, flash mobbing, street theatre and related tactics everywhere they go, inside and outside their community, there are additional gang stalking group members involved in the illegal surveillance and related harassment of gang stalking victims in the community. Clearly, these groups multi-task surveillance and harassment activities against multiple gang stalking Program targets in a given community in which the respective gang stalking group operates. It is safe to say that at least a handful of gang stalking group members are needed to illegally surveill and harass a Program victim as they travel within and outside their communities. It is also clear that gang stalking groups multi-task and harass numerous targets that travel in and through a given community in which the particular gang stalking group operates. It is also conservative to estimate that at least one or two gang stalking members per target are involved in coordinating gang stalking activities against targets of the Program when said targets are "on the move" in addition to the bare minimum of 4 gang stalking group members needed to keep the Program target under constant surveillance. This equates to a total of 5 or 6 gang stalking group members per gang stalking target at minimum. If we take the conservative estimate of 5.5 gang stalking group members per target and apply it to our range of 185,000 to 350,000 we get about 1 million to 2 million gang stalking group members.
The gang stalking group members are drawn heavily from the Penal System under the guidance of the Department of Homeland Security. One victim, who is an ex-con, tried to post the following on the Wikipedia page on Stalking by Groups:
"Mostly the groups are x-cons or convicts released early out of jail or prison to join this program were to monitor and or track innocent people and report anything so they will end up in jail or even worse be assassinated by the group if the head agent in charge gives them a green lite on the persons life which means to kill them. I am a victim of this and not only my life but my children's lives are in danger because i am well aware of every thing they have done to me over the years."
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It is important to note that the 1 million to 2 million estimate of gang stalking group members is an estimate of the people coordinating the illegal surveillance and harassment against targets as part of a territorial, hierarchical group with a defined membership. This estimate does not include non-members who are loosely affiliated and join in on the gang stalking activities, such as flash mobbing and street theatre, on a semi-permanent or ad hoc basis. These semi-permanent members range from neighbors and community groups coerced, or misled by a slander campaign against the gang stalking target, into participation in the the Program, to vagrant types given a few bucks to participate. Most of the storefront businesses, community groups and many of the neighbors involved in the Program are not members of gang stalking groups, but, will harass and mistreat the gang stalking target because of coercion used against them by the gang stalking groups, or, because they buy into a slander campaign villifying the Program target as deserving of such treatment. Gang stalking Program targets represent a fraction of a percent of the communities they live in. The neighbors, storefront businesses, community groups coerced and/or misled into involvement in the gang stalking Program nationwide represent additional millions of participants in the Program.
In order to destroy the target, an infiltration of every aspect of that target's life is performed. This means that not only are neighbors and neighborhood businesses recruited to participate, but, that employers, friends and family members are turned against the target. This involves workplace mobbing at each workplace the Program target works. This also means that friends, associates, co-workers and blood relatives are subject to coercion and slander campaigns against the target. This requires the Program to reach dozens of individuals per target.
Most of the above-mentioned categories of people,to wit, neighbors, neighborhood groups, businesses, employers, friends, relatives, etc., are not gang stalking group members. Rather, these participantss, who are far more numerous than the 1 to 2 million gang stalking group members nationwide, participate in the Program because they are either coereced and/or misled by slander campaigns against the Program target. Gang stalking victims quickly realize that friends, co-workers, and even intimates are really "frenemies" looking to undermine them. Some of these frenemies are emotionally unstable, psychologically draining individuals with dysthymic disorder. More importantly, some of these frenemies are likely to have been placed on the gang stalking victim even before the active phase of gang stalking began. These frenemies are chosen because they are psychologically weak and some digging will reveal other questionable relationships in which these same frenemy tools have been placed on other gang stalking victims. Again, this happens to mirror the law enforcement practice of placing a "bad jacket" on a mark. Certain employers are gang stalking mills, intentionally hiring Program targets for workplace mobbing and constructive termination because their owners are particularly vulnerable to blackmail and other coercive tactics.
Below is a a link to the testimony of a gang stalker explaining "the syndicate" and its operations, funding, lingo, interactions with civil institutions, etc. The gang stalker describes a coercion daisy chain in which he too is at the mercy of the mob and would have to sacrifice his wife and family if ordered to by "higher ups". Of course, anyone weak-minded enough to follow this Program is blind to the wider implications of social engineering and political control technology imposed by the criminalized intelligence services using him as a tool of structural political oppression against the wider public. The public is ultimately seen as the enemy by the power elite and their well fed and trained dogs in the intelligence and security apparatus:
http://gangstalkingsurfers.wordpress.com/confessions-of-a-gang-stalker-aka-life-in-the-syndicate/
All gang stalking targets experience an updated and refined version of McCarthy era blacklisting. This involves being hired, then, soon after, being subject to a hostile work environment, resulting in actual or constructive termination. Because of the sheer number of employers involved in this nefarious practice against gang stalking targets, as well as the fact that employers ranging from small businesses to large multinationals are involved, this neo-blacklisting can only be being orchestrated by the FBI, as was the case with McCarthyism. Unlike McCarthyism, neo-blacklisting, with its use of a hostile wok environment leading to actual or constructive termination, is not subject to the inference that a blacklisted target is being subject to defamation leading to un-employability, because they are indeed hired, then promptly set up for failure. Gang stalking targets’ “employment problems” start at the same time as their gang stalking starts. Most gang stalking targets, similar to victims of workplace mobbing, are actually better than average workers in their occupations.
All gang stalking targets experience workplace mobbing and academic mobbing. Ken Westhues, Sociology Professor Emeritus at University of Waterloo, Canada, writes about the causal link between academic and workplace mobbing and the rash of mass shootings:
"Most of the people who go postal, however, in academic as in other workplaces, have been mobbed there in preceding months or years."
http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/vtmassacre.htm
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/academic-study-links-mass-shootings-community-mobbing
The term "community mobbing" is a defined term of art in the field of Sociology. Community mobbing is the systematic use of bullying, rumor, innuendo, intimidation, humiliation, discrediting isolation, and general harassment in which the group ("mob") attacks a targeted individual:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing
Academic studies have shown that mobbing has severe health consequences:
In mobbing targets with PTSD, Leymann notes that the "mental effects were fully comparable with PTSD from war or prison camp experiences. Some patients may develop alcoholism or other substance abuse disorders. Family relationships routinely suffer. Some targets may even develop brief psychotic episodes, generally with paranoid symptoms. Leymann estimated that 15% of suicides in Sweden could be directly attributed to workplace mobbing.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing#Mobbing_in_the_workplace
Calgary Professor Hugo A. Meynell has publicly compared workplace mobbing to ethnic cleansing, and, has described the workplace mobbing victim as "a little holocaust" happening daily in our civilized workplaces:
http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/meynell-hh.htm
This country has now entered a phase of false "Democratism". This is an illusion of a two party system in which a plutocracy runs a right wing totalitarian state and hollows out any semblance of constitutional due process. The First, Second, and Fourth Amendments are particularly under siege. It appears that the operation of the American Red Guard/ American Stasi is meeting armed resistance. The mass shooting "epidemic" in America is a result of the occupation of the lives of gang stalking targets by the fascist operatus implemented against them by their government. Unlike the former U.S.S.R., Red China, Nazi Germany, etc., the widespread ownership of guns in civilian hands in America is at odds with the de facto national Gestapo system known as gang stalking. Ironically, as Wikileaks represented the example par excellence of a First Amendment insurgency against a proto-fascist America, so too, the mass shootings, however misguided the chosen targets, represent a Second Amendment revolt against fascist tyranny.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310
The gang stalking Program is highly systematic, programmatic and systemic. Information about it dispensed to participants outside the gang stalking groups themselves is disinformational, misinformational and largely compartmentalized or "stovepiped". The total amount of Program participants, as described herein, can easily exceed 100 to every 1 gang stalking Program target. This means that 10% of the U.S. population may be participating in the gang stalking Program, most only having a vague notion of the larger Program called gang stalking by its victims. These numbers are consistent with the civil population involvement with the intelligence communities in former Eastern Bloc. It is noteworthy that the author has multiple sources stating that middle aged persons from the former Eastern Bloc, who are not even fluent in English, are participating in the gang stalking Program in the U.S., as if they imported the techniques directly from Eastern Europe. Similarly, the urban storefront businesses in this country are often run by immigrants originating from third world police states where noncompliance with authority is regularly met by brutal state reaction (disappearances, murder, rape, beatings, etc). This prior social conditioning of recent immigrants makes it easy work for the big city American police departments who run the gang stalking Program for the Feds to incorporate them into the Program.
Community-based policing, similar to gang stalking, is today, and has been for decades, the preferred tool of third-world societal control. A good example of this is Syria, where 20 percent of the population is working for the intelligence agencies. See: "When 20 per cent of the population is rumored to be in the intelligence service, it is no wonder, many prefer to keep their voices down in the light of day. But within a crowd, that fear is temporarily forgotten." Link to full story:
http://rt.com/news/intelligence-violence-security-fear-243/
In the U.S., the use of a growing percentage of the population in national "neighborhood watch Programs" has been instrumental in building a Stasi-like citizen spy network:
In 1981, national data showed that 12 percent of the population was involved in some type of neighborhood watch group (O'Keefe and Mendelsohn, 1984). By 1988, it was estimated that between seven and 20 percent of residents of U.S. cities were involved in such activities (Rosenbaum, 1988). A national study (Whitaker, 1986) showed that 38 percent of households in neighborhoods that had a Neighborhood Watch program participated in the program. This study concluded that urban areas were more likely to have programs than suburban or rural areas, but that people living in the latter were likely to be involved in a program if one was organized.
full link:
http://www.usaonwatch.org/about/neighborhoodwatch.aspx?
This community policing model whether based on former Eastern Bloc countries, Syria, or gang stalking in the U.S., requires the deputizing, and putting on the payroll, a large swathe of the criminal element.
What is also common about all community policing models, including gang stalking in America, is that only the government has the money to fund them. Neighbors moving into housing units surrounding a Program target. Gang stalking perps with no job or means driving around in new model trucks. Gang stalking is happening not only in big cities but in rural areas and every demographic in between. One can find reports of it happening in every state, every county, every city, and almost every town in America. We are talking about Billions of dollars in funding here. All segments of the social order are co-opted into the Program. Targets will experience harassment, such as street theate and mobbing, by vagrants, others on the welfare rolls, city workers, etc. The total societal penetration reaches into their doctors offices, employers, neighbors, etc., right out of the former Eastern Bloc playbook.
Some argue that narcotics and other rackets fund gang stalking which, unlike every other racket, has no self-funding mechanism. The problem with this explanation is that because of criminal defense legal fees, civil forfeiture, mandatory victim compensation laws, etc., it is increasingly the case that racketeering wealth is less likely to be passed on generationally than it is to be confiscated and appropriated by the state.
"Gang stalking groups" have a substantially identical modus operandi to the FBI's Special Surveillance Groups or "SSG's". These SSG's were developed in the 1970's to combat Soviet espionage. Today, these tactics have been taught to criminals, through FBI channels, for domestic COINTELPRO operations against American citizens. Anyone familiar with gang stalking will immediately understand the striking similarity by reviewing the following NPR links on SSG's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0UibgHIZg
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92207687
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/surveillance/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Surveillance_Group
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Spying_on_spy_Raw_Story_interviews_0612.html
Yale Psychologist Stanley Milgram's "small world" experiment concluded that about 1 in 6 people were sufficient to link to every member of a population (this later became the "six degrees of separation" principle). The 1 million to 2 million estimate for gang stalking group members is sufficient to explain the manpower needed to coordinate constant fixed and mobile surveillance against gang stalking vicitims numbering in the hundreds of thousands. The number of people needed to explain the highly consistent gang stalking accounts of hundreds of thousands of Program victims nationwide is exponentially higher.
The FBI and local police "red squad" units (Association of Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) are not performing th grunt work of illegal surveillance and harassment of gang stalking targets. Rather, Snitches are being used to do the "community policing" and legwork for related COINTELPRO activities. These Snitches are essentially slave labor for law enforcement. The same model was used as the "Ghetto cop" by Nazis, and the "proletariat" citizen spy by the Communists. This country has a history of using criminal labor for social engineering campaigns. Ward Churchill documented the cultural Genocide of the American Indian as late as the 1980's. This was accomplished through sending Native American children to government "assimilation" camps run by criminals to separate them from their families and culture. The resulting beatings, rapes and other deprivations suffered as a result of this "assimilation" led to some of the highest unemployment, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, etc., rates of any racial/ethnic demographic in American history. All the above is consistent with the trend of delegating much of "police work" to deputized criminal subagents. A great example is the statistic that 50% of federal narcotics cases are made through criminal informants; See link:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Snit
Key to understanding the nefarious snitch system is not only recognizing the sheer number of snitches, but also understanding the concept of the police creating the "snitch for life". Deferred prosecution/deferred sentencing agreements give police at all levels of government the option of giving felons facing long-term or life sentences an indefinite deferment as long as they keep snitching. These agreements can be more or less formal, but, always entail continued deferment of punishment while the criminal continues cooperation with authorities through the voluntary waiver of the statute of limitations. Most people, including criminals, do not know that the statute of limitations (usually 5 years for federal felonies) can and is commonly waived by cooperating criminals. This means that career or part-time criminals, facing sentencing, for example, under Rockefeller drug laws, can become long-term assets informing for decades. They can operate and inform under changing scenarios as their employers, friends and associates change over time. The policy question here is, does the informant trading liability by shifting it to other criminals provide a "public service" by doing so? Can we consider this self-interested criminals information or testimony as being disinterested as in the case of a disinterested citizen witness? Hardly, I'd say.
The FBI can orchestrate gang stalking with little or no overt presence. This was how COINTELPRO was designed. Through infiltration and the cultivation of snitches, the FBI ferments division within targeted groups, such as organized crime. The desired result is increasing the factionalizing or splitting within targeted groups, and, between targeted groups, resulting in the self destruction and mutual destruction of FBI targeted groups. This is achieved with little or no traces of direct FBI activity within these groups. Essentially, the most effective thing about COINTELPRO, is psychological manipulation of the targeted groups' members.
In the case of "generational victims", entire families are targeted by the Program for multiple generations. A key to understanding this is comprehending that systematic and systemic coercion will be used against both members of the nuclear and extended targeted family. Machiavellian "splitting" techniques as well as organized crime-style methods will be used to divide and destroy the targeted family. It is important to note that only a minority of these targeted families' members will experience full blown gang stalking (street theatre, flash mobbing, slander campaigns, intimate infiltration, employment sabotage, 24/7/365 surveillance and harassment, etc.). Some blogs and commentators write about a "preconditioning phase" before the onset of full blown gang stalking. During this preconditioning phase, the prospective future gang stalking victim is exposed to public rudeness, rudeness by employers, etc., to start breaking them down psychologically. The methods used during preconditioning to gang stalking are similar to predatory methods of cult abuse and MKULTRA-type abuse. Generational victims family members would all undergo the preconditioning phase of gang stalking, while only a minority of family members will proceed to full blown gang stalking. Ironically, the resilient, anti-authoritarian types will be of greater risk of becoming full blown gang stalking victims. The personalities of prospective gang stalking victims will be heavily profiled and any exploitable weaknesses duly noted during the preconditioning phase.
The Leninist concept of organizing a "controlled opposition" is central to the gang stalking Program's cover-up. The FBI's use of controlled opposition (phony government operatives and groups posing as opposition) in COINTELPRO is well documented. Ward Churchill writes about this in the context of AIM, the KKK and other groups subjected to COINTELPRO in The COINTELPRO Papers linked below (this book is a must read for anyone who wants to understand COINTELPRO):
http://www.krusch.com/books/kennedy/Cointelpro_Papers.pdf
The controlled opposition, which has its origins in Lenin's Soviet Union, and, Mao's Red Guard, is clearly at play in the gang stalking Program:
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.'"
Vladimir Lenin (the FBI has learned Lenin's teachings well).
To give a historical analogue to gang stalking , the below linked film, Stasiland, examines the East German surveillance society that is considered the gold standard for the modern police state:
http://www.youtube.com/user/phrygian20?blend=22&ob=5#p/u/0/HClXxgCPAjY
An excellent overview of the criminalization of American intelligence agencies is given by former N.O.C. MI-6 agent Christopher Story in his book New Underworld Order :
http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/theknoll/rr/The_New_Underworld_Order%20-%20Christopher_Story.pdf
Pay specific attention to Chapter 8, at p. 529, et. seq. Story's partial biography is found on his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Story
Retired Sheriff Richard Mack on the oath to the Constitution versus federal tyranny and cronyism:
http://www.nullifynow.com/2012/02/richard-mack-the-untouchable-bill-of-rights/
Furthermore, upon information and belief, the author herein believes that the following mass murders are likely related to the "gang stalking" Program:
James E. Holmes
Terence Tyler
One L. Goh
Scott Dekraai
John Turner
Yvonne Hiller
Amy Bishop
Shareef Allman
Jiverly Wong
Cho Seung-Hui
Ross Truett Ashley (visited same gun range as Cho Seung-Hui)
Abdo Ibssa
Nidal Malik Hassan
Jared Loughner
Christopher Nathen Elliot Travis
T.J. Lane
Andrew J. Engeldinger
Lawrence Jones
Raulie Wayne Casteel
Jacob Tyler Roberts
Jeffrey Lee Michael
Adam Lanza
William H. Spengler, Jr.
Bryan Oliver
Nehemiah Griego
Arthur Douglas Harmon
Christopher Jordan Dorner
Nahn Lap Tran
Ali Syed
Kurt R. Myers
James Oliver Seevakumaran
Dylan Quick
Neil MacInnis
See Appendix of link below:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/counterterrorism/ActiveShooter2012Edition.pdf
Note that the author is not claiming definitive proof of gang stalking in each case, but rather, indicia of gang stalking in each case. Moreover, the author is not claiming to know whether other incidents of mass violence relate back to the "gang stalking" Program, but he suspects there are other such incidents.
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at 12:27 on November 15th, 2011
Why would I be a disinformation agent when all I am doing is pointing out the continuous stream of false claims you're making? In your zoho poll you make the following claims as factual:
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It's FBI COINTELPRO, only the gov't has the means to do this.
It's the mob.
It's masons and scientology.
It's low level criminals and drug dealers.
It's a criminal informant network run by the government.
It's the Jewish community.
It's Italian organized crime.
It's the military/CIA.
And you go to great pains disseminating the Gunderson disinfo report claiming among other stupid things it's satanic cults financed by kidnapping children sold at up to $50k a piece at auctions. (if you search far and wide in the Gunderson web of deceit he details the kids are used for sex slaves, ritual sacrifice and harvesting their body parts)
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It's clear you want us running around in circles making stupid, unsupported claims. You're the one spreading all the disinfo, don't question my agenda as being other than what it is: trying to stop all the bullshyte being perpetuated in the community.
at 14:38 on November 15th, 2011
Batvette,
TO CLARIFY:
I BELIEVE THAT GANG STALKING IS A GOVERNMENTAL PROGRAM LED BY THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. THE FACT THAT IT IS NATIONWIDE AND VERY PROGRAMMATIC, SYSTEMATIC AND SYSTEMIC, AND, THE FACT THAT IT HAS NO WAY OF FUNDING ITSELF AS SUCH, DICTATE THAT IT IS THE GOVERNMENT BEHIND IT.
MANY TOOLS, AS LISTED BY YOU, SUCH AS ORGANIZED CRIME, SNITCHES, ETC., ARE COERCED, BRIBED AND/OR MISLED INTO PARTICIPATION. BTW, YOUR LIST OF DUPES AND TOOLS PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM IS FAR FROM EXCLUSIVE.
ALSO, GUNDERSON HAS STATED UNDER OATH THAT THERE IS SATANIC CULT INVOLVEMENT AND ALSO CHILD TRAFFICKING LINKED TO IT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ROLE SATANIC CULTS OR CHILD TRAFFICKING PLAY IN THIS, AND NEVER HAVE MADE ANY AFFIRMATIVE REPRESENTATION THAT EITHER SATANIC CULTS OR CHILD TRAFFICKING ARE LINKED TO GANG STALKING. I DID NOT HAVE EDITORIAL CONTROL OVER THE GUNDERSON AFFIDAVIT, ALTHOUGH I HELPED TO DRAFT IT.
BTW, ANYONE WISHING TO READ THE ZOHO.COM POLL COMMENTS WILL SEE A GREAT VARIETY OF COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF MY POLL AND ARTICLES, AS WELL AS CRITICISM, THAT I CAN LIVE WITH SINCE I AM NOT THE OBVIOUS MEGALOMANIAC YOU ARE!
at 15:22 on November 15th, 2011
Note that my post which contains a sample of the long list of disinformation Keith Labella has been publishing across the internet- pointing out the misleading, harmful things he has been doing, was replied to by nothing more than shouting who he thinks I am.
Ad hominem. He cannot deny his activities are nothing but endless disinformation campaign that put falsehoods in the minds of actusal TI's and schizophrenics alike, confuse the issue and doom the cause to failure.
I think that's what he wants.
However note he continues to lie to protect the legitimacy of The Gunderson Disinfo Report. Who made Ted Gunderson swear an oath on that document, Mr. Labella?
at 16:43 on November 15th, 2011
Batvette,
DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media and IM to organize;
DENIES Noise Campaigns
DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;
DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;
DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;
STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";
STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";
THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";
BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.
at 16:45 on November 15th, 2011
Batvette,
DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media and IM to organize;
DENIES Noise Campaigns
DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;
DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;
DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;
STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";
STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";
THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";
BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.
at 05:39 on November 15th, 2011
Batvette writes,
nobody can spread rumours about you that you're crazy and have them mean anything unless you really are.
I think there are millions of living victims from Communist and other police states that were subject to "political re-education" that would be offended by this remark. However, with the ease you dismiss and mock gang stalking and its victims, this is not surprising.
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No Stasi In America (not verified)at 08:00 on November 15th, 2011
NO STASI IN AMERICA//// www.nostasi.com/
at 16:58 on November 13th, 2011
Batvette,
Again, your own comment unmasks you as a Liar and Fraud who pretends to be a "gang stalking target" in long-winded articles and comments, and then goes on to discredit gang stalking victims life stories and deny the very existence of the gang stalking Program.
You are a Hypocrite and you are on the losing side of history.
at 04:22 on November 15th, 2011
I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be.
Where is yours?
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Liz Blandra (not verified)at 07:07 on November 15th, 2011
batvette stated: "I'll discredit one life story at a time if need be." That says it all -- I know everything that I need to know about you.
at 12:40 on November 15th, 2011
A wiki sockpuppet investigation going so far as a checkuser report confirmed elizabeth blandra and peacefrog71 were socks of the same user. What leads you to think I need your approval as a prerequisite to get me through my day? The statement was to cut short your continuing argument that I am making disparaging remarks about large numbers of genuine TI's, that is hardly the case. I'm calling out liars and crazy people claiming stupid shyte they are too crazy to recognize as stupid to claim.
Let that mantra stick in your f o o k ing head as you run around telling the world they are supposed to feel sorry for you and take action against the grave offense of you having to endure the visual blight of handicapped people hobbling around on crutches in your community. If gangstalking doesn't exist maybe it should just to knock some sense into anyone so self absorbed they look at a crippled person and think "oh that guy's just faking it, surely some grand scheme put him there to torment me by just having to look at him, and if it happens enough times I just may gun down a dozen people"
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Liz Blandra (not verified)at 13:31 on November 15th, 2011
Was Jiverly Wong being gang stalked, batvette? Your opinion?
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Liz Blandra (not verified)at 13:59 on November 15th, 2011
If I were really a sockpuppet of PeaceFrog, I certainly wouldn't be posting on Now Public as Elizabeth Blandra -- I would have used another name. If I were trying to hide something, I wouldn't be posting comments as Elizabeth Blandra.
at 15:36 on November 15th, 2011
Batvette,
DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media and IM to organize;
DENIES Noise Campaigns
DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;
DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;
DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;
STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";
STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";
THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";
BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.
at 17:18 on November 15th, 2011
"who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";"
Let's not misrepresent what's going on here, I'm calling YOU out on the stupid shyte YOU've been calling "gangstalking" without you being candid and open about anything you've allegedly experienced daily.
Your spamming and sock puppeting personal attacks on my credibility are merely because someone's finally come along and not kissed your ass because some part of the piles of bullshyte you post matches what they want to hear.
It's clear your only interest in all this is recruiting the delusional to claim they are TI's. Why you would do this I don't really care, you're doing it.
at 17:35 on November 15th, 2011
Everyone who reads your comments can clearly read, in your own words, that you dismiss gang stalking, and dismiss the toll gang stalking takes on its victims. Your clear agenda is denying the uniform and widely reported tactics being used against gang stalking victims, deeming gang stalking victims who tell their stories "paranoid nutters" and then thinking these same victims will accept your lame claim of being "gang stalked" while flatly denying that anything they claim to experience is real.
at 20:14 on November 15th, 2011
No gangstalking victims have come into any of these discussions and reported any tactics.
It's just you posting more of your general bullshyte.
Thank you for that fictionalized summary, it was good for a laugh.
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Liz Blandra (not verified)at 08:21 on November 18th, 2011
batvette said, "nobody can spread rumours about you that you're crazy and have them mean anything unless you really are." lol, batvette. batvette, also said, "No gangstalking victims have come into any of these discussions and reported any tactics." Who would willingly expose themselves to a bully? Now that would be "crazy."
at 05:28 on November 16th, 2011
DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media and IM to organize;
DENIES Noise Campaigns
DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;
DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;
DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;
STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";
STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";
THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";
BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.
at 06:08 on November 16th, 2011
They must be paying the lame military contractor disinformation psyops agent Batvette by the word. How else to explain the cyberNazi effluvia that issues from his keyboard?
at 05:30 on November 16th, 2011
DENIES gang stalking involves flash mobs using social media and IM to organize;
DENIES Noise Campaigns
DENIES Pychological sensitization and anchoring techniques;
DENIES the importance of Law Enforcement Officers like Lt.Larry Richard speaking out on gang stalking;
DENIES gang stalking involves large groups of people;
STATES that Lawrence Guzzino and most other targets who openly talk about their daily plight living with gang stalking are "crazy nutters";
STATES that gang stalking is something a person with "thick skin" can "easily live with";
THREATENS targets that if they speak he will destroy their stories "one by one";
BATVETTE IS ACTING LIKE A PERP NOT A TI.
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Elizabeth Blandra (not verified)at 13:38 on November 10th, 2011
WordPress won't let people post duplicate comments -- I knew that I had posted two, but now there are three! And WordPress never attaches a bunch of font info to a comments.... Well, anyway, sorry to clutter up your article, PeaceFrog. This is an important story. Thank you.
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Elizabeth Blandra (not verified)at 13:52 on November 10th, 2011
I'd like you to clarify one point, if you would. You state, "Certain employers are gang stalking mills, intentionally hiring Program targets for workplace mobbing and constructive termination because their owners are particularly vulnerable to blackmail and other coercive tactics." Are there any examples that you could cite? While I would agree that there is interference with employment and that what you conclude is possible, even likely, it seems like a bit of a reach to state it conclusively. If you could comment... (Thanks.)
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an anonymous comment (not verified)at 15:54 on November 10th, 2011
In my humble opinion, the gang stalking program is about the development of an American version of the Stasi -- I don't believe that victims are being used "as bait", as was mentioned the article on Wikipedia and censorship. I believe that there's a certain profile that victims fit -- it may be something as simple as what Ulrike Pope notes in the following article: "asocial behavior."...... I believe that over the decades, those running the gang stalking program have been fine-tuning their techniques and adding to their ranks -- I believe that for years those running this show have been grooming and "growing" the gang stalking rank and file, while waiting for the conditions that would enable them to ramp it up and go full bore. Advances in technology have given the program an edge, as well. Americans need to pay attention. We're in serious trouble..................................www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/16-02/ff_stasi?currentPage=all"If I had told anyone at the time that the Stasi was giving me flat tires, they would have laughed at me," she says. "It was a way to discredit people, make them seem crazy. I doubted my own sanity sometimes." Eventually, the officer broke off contact, but continued to telephone Poppe — often drunk, often late at night, sometimes complaining about his failing marriage. He eventually committed suicide.......................................... Poppe is looking forward to finding out what was in that last, reconstructed 5 percent. "The files were really important to see," she says, taking a drag on her cigarette and leaning forward across the coffee table. "They explained everything that happened — the letters we never got, the friends who pulled away from us. We understood where the Stasi influenced our lives, where they arranged for something to happen, and where it was simply our fault."
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findsoso (not verified)at 17:12 on November 10th, 2011
program an edge, as well. Americans need to pay attention. We're in serious Continue reading at findsoso.com
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Elizabeth Blandra (not verified)at 08:32 on November 12th, 2011
Well, when I made my comments the title of the article was "Gang Stalking: Slouching towards Stasiland.
at 09:51 on November 12th, 2011
I did change the title to reflect the basic question posed more accurately.
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nathalie ann colettiat 11:50 on November 12th, 2011
Very good Peace Frog. Ive been thinking about these too but didnt come to a good estiimate as you have.
Just today I was wondering if the goverment is targeting the ones who stalk us? The neighbor as you said, these stalkers are usually drug dependent and are given open aprtments and drugs, or money FOR drugs. They set up camp and use drugs while using weaponry of ill intent on us. So far I have seen mostly well seasoned drug users, cold stares, ready to hit the casket in a short time if continued. So they themselves arent aware that they are expendible. Hmm?
All I can say is wake up you who are stalking, they want you dead too.
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nathalie ann colettiat 11:54 on November 12th, 2011
When your using drugs like some Ive seen how is possible for them to handle the machines, the poisons they use to harm? Isnt it a great big possibilty that they are going to eventually ruin there immune system and die of Cancer like some have in the ranks of T.I.s?
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sazky (not verified)at 04:36 on November 13th, 2011
While I would agree that there is interference with employment and that what you conclude is possible, even likely, it seems like a bit of a reach to state it conclusively.