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How Widespread Is Gang Stalking?
“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”
J. Edgar Hoover on COINTELPRO
There have been books, articles, blogs, commentary, Youtube videos, etc., detailing what victims call gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques. To my knowledge, there has not been any attempt to quantify gang stalking in the U.S. in terms of the total number of participants. By participants, I mean gang stalking victims, members of gang stalking groups, flash mobs involved in community mobbing of gang stalking victims, and, persons and entities who play a peripheral role in related workplace mobbing and systematic isolation of the gang stalking target.
Once caught in the web of the gang stalking Program, a target is subject to a full court press that invades every aspect of their life and is calculated to destroy that person. The process is highly formulaic programmatic, systematic and systemic. Key to the destruction of a gang stalking target is a full penetration and infiltration of their environs, including their constant surveillance and harassment in their home, workplace/school mobbing of the target, and target's isolation from friends and family members. This is done in a highly formulaic, programmatic, systematic and systemic manner. This article seeks to extrapolate, largely from circumstantial evidence, how large the gang stalking Program is in terms of persons and entities involved. This article will also look at gang stalking activities and related funding issues to assess who is ultimately behind the funding and control of the gang stalking Program.
The starting point is the assessment of the number of victims of the gang stalking Program. The author made a FOIA request to DOJ after their release of Stalking Victimization in the United States, in January of 2009. In that FOIA request, the author asked DOJ how many victims of 3 or more stalkers were reporting that the multiple stalkers were acting in concert as a team or group. The author received a response showing, that according to DOJ statistics, 185,050 persons in the U.S. were being stalked by teams or groups of between "3" and "50" stalkers. See links:
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf
http://www.osnanaimo.org/svuslabellafoia.pdf
The author previously wrote an article in which he pointed out flaws in the methodology used in the Stalking Report that resulted in an under-reporting of the number of gang stalking victims, and argued that an accurate number was at least 350,000. See link:
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-new-doj-foia-documents-prove-doj-knows-truth
In any event, this article will be using the range of 185,000 to 350,000 gang stalking Program victims in assessing the parameters of the Program in terms of persons involved in the Program. We will also consider gang stalking and gang stalking methods/techniques as widely and uniformly reported in various articles, blogs, books, commentary, the Urban Dictionary, etc., on the subject, to quantify the number of persons involved in the gang stalking Program from features of the Program widely and uniformly reported in the numerous accounts of the Program in articles, blogs, etc.
The first element of the gang stalking Program we will analyze is the constant surveillance and related harassment of the gang stalking victim 24/7/365 as is a widely and uniformly reported feature of the Program. From what is being reported, in terms of surveillance and related harassment, at least one member of a gang stalking group has to be surveilling a gang stalking target at all times. This means that at least one person is involved in surveilling the gang stalking victim 168 hours a week. This means that approximately 4 full-time jobs are involved in the constant surveillance of a single gang stalking Program victim. Since gang stalking victims are subject to harassment, conspicuous surveillance, flash mobbing, street theatre and related tactics everywhere they go, inside and outside their community, there are additional gang stalking group members involved in the illegal surveillance and related harassment of gang stalking victims in the community. Clearly, these groups multi-task surveillance and harassment activities against multiple gang stalking Program targets in a given community in which the respective gang stalking group operates. It is safe to say that at least a handful of gang stalking group members are needed to illegally surveill and harass a Program victim as they travel within and outside their communities. It is also clear that gang stalking groups multi-task and harass numerous targets that travel in and through a given community in which the particular gang stalking group operates. It is also conservative to estimate that at least one or two gang stalking members per target are involved in coordinating gang stalking activities against targets of the Program when said targets are "on the move" in addition to the bare minimum of 4 gang stalking group members needed to keep the Program target under constant surveillance. This equates to a total of 5 or 6 gang stalking group members per gang stalking target at minimum. If we take the conservative estimate of 5.5 gang stalking group members per target and apply it to our range of 185,000 to 350,000 we get about 1 million to 2 million gang stalking group members.
The gang stalking group members are drawn heavily from the Penal System under the guidance of the Department of Homeland Security. One victim, who is an ex-con, tried to post the following on the Wikipedia page on Stalking by Groups:
"Mostly the groups are x-cons or convicts released early out of jail or prison to join this program were to monitor and or track innocent people and report anything so they will end up in jail or even worse be assassinated by the group if the head agent in charge gives them a green lite on the persons life which means to kill them. I am a victim of this and not only my life but my children's lives are in danger because i am well aware of every thing they have done to me over the years."
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It is important to note that the 1 million to 2 million estimate of gang stalking group members is an estimate of the people coordinating the illegal surveillance and harassment against targets as part of a territorial, hierarchical group with a defined membership. This estimate does not include non-members who are loosely affiliated and join in on the gang stalking activities, such as flash mobbing and street theatre, on a semi-permanent or ad hoc basis. These semi-permanent members range from neighbors and community groups coerced, or misled by a slander campaign against the gang stalking target, into participation in the the Program, to vagrant types given a few bucks to participate. Most of the storefront businesses, community groups and many of the neighbors involved in the Program are not members of gang stalking groups, but, will harass and mistreat the gang stalking target because of coercion used against them by the gang stalking groups, or, because they buy into a slander campaign villifying the Program target as deserving of such treatment. Gang stalking Program targets represent a fraction of a percent of the communities they live in. The neighbors, storefront businesses, community groups coerced and/or misled into involvement in the gang stalking Program nationwide represent additional millions of participants in the Program.
In order to destroy the target, an infiltration of every aspect of that target's life is performed. This means that not only are neighbors and neighborhood businesses recruited to participate, but, that employers, friends and family members are turned against the target. This involves workplace mobbing at each workplace the Program target works. This also means that friends, associates, co-workers and blood relatives are subject to coercion and slander campaigns against the target. This requires the Program to reach dozens of individuals per target.
Most of the above-mentioned categories of people,to wit, neighbors, neighborhood groups, businesses, employers, friends, relatives, etc., are not gang stalking group members. Rather, these participantss, who are far more numerous than the 1 to 2 million gang stalking group members nationwide, participate in the Program because they are either coereced and/or misled by slander campaigns against the Program target. Gang stalking victims quickly realize that friends, co-workers, and even intimates are really "frenemies" looking to undermine them. Some of these frenemies are emotionally unstable, psychologically draining individuals with dysthymic disorder. More importantly, some of these frenemies are likely to have been placed on the gang stalking victim even before the active phase of gang stalking began. These frenemies are chosen because they are psychologically weak and some digging will reveal other questionable relationships in which these same frenemy tools have been placed on other gang stalking victims. Again, this happens to mirror the law enforcement practice of placing a "bad jacket" on a mark. Certain employers are gang stalking mills, intentionally hiring Program targets for workplace mobbing and constructive termination because their owners are particularly vulnerable to blackmail and other coercive tactics.
Below is a a link to the testimony of a gang stalker explaining "the syndicate" and its operations, funding, lingo, interactions with civil institutions, etc. The gang stalker describes a coercion daisy chain in which he too is at the mercy of the mob and would have to sacrifice his wife and family if ordered to by "higher ups". Of course, anyone weak-minded enough to follow this Program is blind to the wider implications of social engineering and political control technology imposed by the criminalized intelligence services using him as a tool of structural political oppression against the wider public. The public is ultimately seen as the enemy by the power elite and their well fed and trained dogs in the intelligence and security apparatus:
http://gangstalkingsurfers.wordpress.com/confessions-of-a-gang-stalker-aka-life-in-the-syndicate/
All gang stalking targets experience an updated and refined version of McCarthy era blacklisting. This involves being hired, then, soon after, being subject to a hostile work environment, resulting in actual or constructive termination. Because of the sheer number of employers involved in this nefarious practice against gang stalking targets, as well as the fact that employers ranging from small businesses to large multinationals are involved, this neo-blacklisting can only be being orchestrated by the FBI, as was the case with McCarthyism. Unlike McCarthyism, neo-blacklisting, with its use of a hostile wok environment leading to actual or constructive termination, is not subject to the inference that a blacklisted target is being subject to defamation leading to un-employability, because they are indeed hired, then promptly set up for failure. Gang stalking targets’ “employment problems” start at the same time as their gang stalking starts. Most gang stalking targets, similar to victims of workplace mobbing, are actually better than average workers in their occupations.
All gang stalking targets experience workplace mobbing and academic mobbing. Ken Westhues, Sociology Professor Emeritus at University of Waterloo, Canada, writes about the causal link between academic and workplace mobbing and the rash of mass shootings:
"Most of the people who go postal, however, in academic as in other workplaces, have been mobbed there in preceding months or years."
http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/vtmassacre.htm
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/academic-study-links-mass-shootings-community-mobbing
The term "community mobbing" is a defined term of art in the field of Sociology. Community mobbing is the systematic use of bullying, rumor, innuendo, intimidation, humiliation, discrediting isolation, and general harassment in which the group ("mob") attacks a targeted individual:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing
Academic studies have shown that mobbing has severe health consequences:
In mobbing targets with PTSD, Leymann notes that the "mental effects were fully comparable with PTSD from war or prison camp experiences. Some patients may develop alcoholism or other substance abuse disorders. Family relationships routinely suffer. Some targets may even develop brief psychotic episodes, generally with paranoid symptoms. Leymann estimated that 15% of suicides in Sweden could be directly attributed to workplace mobbing.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing#Mobbing_in_the_workplace
Calgary Professor Hugo A. Meynell has publicly compared workplace mobbing to ethnic cleansing, and, has described the workplace mobbing victim as "a little holocaust" happening daily in our civilized workplaces:
http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/meynell-hh.htm
This country has now entered a phase of false "Democratism". This is an illusion of a two party system in which a plutocracy runs a right wing totalitarian state and hollows out any semblance of constitutional due process. The First, Second, and Fourth Amendments are particularly under siege. It appears that the operation of the American Red Guard/ American Stasi is meeting armed resistance. The mass shooting "epidemic" in America is a result of the occupation of the lives of gang stalking targets by the fascist operatus implemented against them by their government. Unlike the former U.S.S.R., Red China, Nazi Germany, etc., the widespread ownership of guns in civilian hands in America is at odds with the de facto national Gestapo system known as gang stalking. Ironically, as Wikileaks represented the example par excellence of a First Amendment insurgency against a proto-fascist America, so too, the mass shootings, however misguided the chosen targets, represent a Second Amendment revolt against fascist tyranny.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310
The gang stalking Program is highly systematic, programmatic and systemic. Information about it dispensed to participants outside the gang stalking groups themselves is disinformational, misinformational and largely compartmentalized or "stovepiped". The total amount of Program participants, as described herein, can easily exceed 100 to every 1 gang stalking Program target. This means that 10% of the U.S. population may be participating in the gang stalking Program, most only having a vague notion of the larger Program called gang stalking by its victims. These numbers are consistent with the civil population involvement with the intelligence communities in former Eastern Bloc. It is noteworthy that the author has multiple sources stating that middle aged persons from the former Eastern Bloc, who are not even fluent in English, are participating in the gang stalking Program in the U.S., as if they imported the techniques directly from Eastern Europe. Similarly, the urban storefront businesses in this country are often run by immigrants originating from third world police states where noncompliance with authority is regularly met by brutal state reaction (disappearances, murder, rape, beatings, etc). This prior social conditioning of recent immigrants makes it easy work for the big city American police departments who run the gang stalking Program for the Feds to incorporate them into the Program.
Community-based policing, similar to gang stalking, is today, and has been for decades, the preferred tool of third-world societal control. A good example of this is Syria, where 20 percent of the population is working for the intelligence agencies. See: "When 20 per cent of the population is rumored to be in the intelligence service, it is no wonder, many prefer to keep their voices down in the light of day. But within a crowd, that fear is temporarily forgotten." Link to full story:
http://rt.com/news/intelligence-violence-security-fear-243/
In the U.S., the use of a growing percentage of the population in national "neighborhood watch Programs" has been instrumental in building a Stasi-like citizen spy network:
In 1981, national data showed that 12 percent of the population was involved in some type of neighborhood watch group (O'Keefe and Mendelsohn, 1984). By 1988, it was estimated that between seven and 20 percent of residents of U.S. cities were involved in such activities (Rosenbaum, 1988). A national study (Whitaker, 1986) showed that 38 percent of households in neighborhoods that had a Neighborhood Watch program participated in the program. This study concluded that urban areas were more likely to have programs than suburban or rural areas, but that people living in the latter were likely to be involved in a program if one was organized.
full link:
http://www.usaonwatch.org/about/neighborhoodwatch.aspx?
This community policing model whether based on former Eastern Bloc countries, Syria, or gang stalking in the U.S., requires the deputizing, and putting on the payroll, a large swathe of the criminal element.
What is also common about all community policing models, including gang stalking in America, is that only the government has the money to fund them. Neighbors moving into housing units surrounding a Program target. Gang stalking perps with no job or means driving around in new model trucks. Gang stalking is happening not only in big cities but in rural areas and every demographic in between. One can find reports of it happening in every state, every county, every city, and almost every town in America. We are talking about Billions of dollars in funding here. All segments of the social order are co-opted into the Program. Targets will experience harassment, such as street theate and mobbing, by vagrants, others on the welfare rolls, city workers, etc. The total societal penetration reaches into their doctors offices, employers, neighbors, etc., right out of the former Eastern Bloc playbook.
Some argue that narcotics and other rackets fund gang stalking which, unlike every other racket, has no self-funding mechanism. The problem with this explanation is that because of criminal defense legal fees, civil forfeiture, mandatory victim compensation laws, etc., it is increasingly the case that racketeering wealth is less likely to be passed on generationally than it is to be confiscated and appropriated by the state.
"Gang stalking groups" have a substantially identical modus operandi to the FBI's Special Surveillance Groups or "SSG's". These SSG's were developed in the 1970's to combat Soviet espionage. Today, these tactics have been taught to criminals, through FBI channels, for domestic COINTELPRO operations against American citizens. Anyone familiar with gang stalking will immediately understand the striking similarity by reviewing the following NPR links on SSG's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0UibgHIZg
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92207687
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/surveillance/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Surveillance_Group
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Spying_on_spy_Raw_Story_interviews_0612.html
Yale Psychologist Stanley Milgram's "small world" experiment concluded that about 1 in 6 people were sufficient to link to every member of a population (this later became the "six degrees of separation" principle). The 1 million to 2 million estimate for gang stalking group members is sufficient to explain the manpower needed to coordinate constant fixed and mobile surveillance against gang stalking vicitims numbering in the hundreds of thousands. The number of people needed to explain the highly consistent gang stalking accounts of hundreds of thousands of Program victims nationwide is exponentially higher.
The FBI and local police "red squad" units (Association of Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) are not performing th grunt work of illegal surveillance and harassment of gang stalking targets. Rather, Snitches are being used to do the "community policing" and legwork for related COINTELPRO activities. These Snitches are essentially slave labor for law enforcement. The same model was used as the "Ghetto cop" by Nazis, and the "proletariat" citizen spy by the Communists. This country has a history of using criminal labor for social engineering campaigns. Ward Churchill documented the cultural Genocide of the American Indian as late as the 1980's. This was accomplished through sending Native American children to government "assimilation" camps run by criminals to separate them from their families and culture. The resulting beatings, rapes and other deprivations suffered as a result of this "assimilation" led to some of the highest unemployment, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, etc., rates of any racial/ethnic demographic in American history. All the above is consistent with the trend of delegating much of "police work" to deputized criminal subagents. A great example is the statistic that 50% of federal narcotics cases are made through criminal informants; See link:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Snit
Key to understanding the nefarious snitch system is not only recognizing the sheer number of snitches, but also understanding the concept of the police creating the "snitch for life". Deferred prosecution/deferred sentencing agreements give police at all levels of government the option of giving felons facing long-term or life sentences an indefinite deferment as long as they keep snitching. These agreements can be more or less formal, but, always entail continued deferment of punishment while the criminal continues cooperation with authorities through the voluntary waiver of the statute of limitations. Most people, including criminals, do not know that the statute of limitations (usually 5 years for federal felonies) can and is commonly waived by cooperating criminals. This means that career or part-time criminals, facing sentencing, for example, under Rockefeller drug laws, can become long-term assets informing for decades. They can operate and inform under changing scenarios as their employers, friends and associates change over time. The policy question here is, does the informant trading liability by shifting it to other criminals provide a "public service" by doing so? Can we consider this self-interested criminals information or testimony as being disinterested as in the case of a disinterested citizen witness? Hardly, I'd say.
The FBI can orchestrate gang stalking with little or no overt presence. This was how COINTELPRO was designed. Through infiltration and the cultivation of snitches, the FBI ferments division within targeted groups, such as organized crime. The desired result is increasing the factionalizing or splitting within targeted groups, and, between targeted groups, resulting in the self destruction and mutual destruction of FBI targeted groups. This is achieved with little or no traces of direct FBI activity within these groups. Essentially, the most effective thing about COINTELPRO, is psychological manipulation of the targeted groups' members.
In the case of "generational victims", entire families are targeted by the Program for multiple generations. A key to understanding this is comprehending that systematic and systemic coercion will be used against both members of the nuclear and extended targeted family. Machiavellian "splitting" techniques as well as organized crime-style methods will be used to divide and destroy the targeted family. It is important to note that only a minority of these targeted families' members will experience full blown gang stalking (street theatre, flash mobbing, slander campaigns, intimate infiltration, employment sabotage, 24/7/365 surveillance and harassment, etc.). Some blogs and commentators write about a "preconditioning phase" before the onset of full blown gang stalking. During this preconditioning phase, the prospective future gang stalking victim is exposed to public rudeness, rudeness by employers, etc., to start breaking them down psychologically. The methods used during preconditioning to gang stalking are similar to predatory methods of cult abuse and MKULTRA-type abuse. Generational victims family members would all undergo the preconditioning phase of gang stalking, while only a minority of family members will proceed to full blown gang stalking. Ironically, the resilient, anti-authoritarian types will be of greater risk of becoming full blown gang stalking victims. The personalities of prospective gang stalking victims will be heavily profiled and any exploitable weaknesses duly noted during the preconditioning phase.
The Leninist concept of organizing a "controlled opposition" is central to the gang stalking Program's cover-up. The FBI's use of controlled opposition (phony government operatives and groups posing as opposition) in COINTELPRO is well documented. Ward Churchill writes about this in the context of AIM, the KKK and other groups subjected to COINTELPRO in The COINTELPRO Papers linked below (this book is a must read for anyone who wants to understand COINTELPRO):
http://www.krusch.com/books/kennedy/Cointelpro_Papers.pdf
The controlled opposition, which has its origins in Lenin's Soviet Union, and, Mao's Red Guard, is clearly at play in the gang stalking Program:
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.'"
Vladimir Lenin (the FBI has learned Lenin's teachings well).
To give a historical analogue to gang stalking , the below linked film, Stasiland, examines the East German surveillance society that is considered the gold standard for the modern police state:
http://www.youtube.com/user/phrygian20?blend=22&ob=5#p/u/0/HClXxgCPAjY
An excellent overview of the criminalization of American intelligence agencies is given by former N.O.C. MI-6 agent Christopher Story in his book New Underworld Order :
http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/theknoll/rr/The_New_Underworld_Order%20-%20Christopher_Story.pdf
Pay specific attention to Chapter 8, at p. 529, et. seq. Story's partial biography is found on his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Story
Retired Sheriff Richard Mack on the oath to the Constitution versus federal tyranny and cronyism:
http://www.nullifynow.com/2012/02/richard-mack-the-untouchable-bill-of-rights/
Furthermore, upon information and belief, the author herein believes that the following mass murders are likely related to the "gang stalking" Program:
James E. Holmes
Terence Tyler
One L. Goh
Scott Dekraai
John Turner
Yvonne Hiller
Amy Bishop
Shareef Allman
Jiverly Wong
Cho Seung-Hui
Ross Truett Ashley (visited same gun range as Cho Seung-Hui)
Abdo Ibssa
Nidal Malik Hassan
Jared Loughner
Christopher Nathen Elliot Travis
T.J. Lane
Andrew J. Engeldinger
Lawrence Jones
Raulie Wayne Casteel
Jacob Tyler Roberts
Jeffrey Lee Michael
Adam Lanza
William H. Spengler, Jr.
Bryan Oliver
Nehemiah Griego
Arthur Douglas Harmon
Christopher Jordan Dorner
Nahn Lap Tran
Ali Syed
Kurt R. Myers
James Oliver Seevakumaran
Dylan Quick
Neil MacInnis
See Appendix of link below:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/counterterrorism/ActiveShooter2012Edition.pdf
Note that the author is not claiming definitive proof of gang stalking in each case, but rather, indicia of gang stalking in each case. Moreover, the author is not claiming to know whether other incidents of mass violence relate back to the "gang stalking" Program, but he suspects there are other such incidents.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Why is Wikipedia Censoring Mainstream News about Gang Stalking? | NowPublic News Coverage http://my.nowpublic.com/world/why-wikipedia-censoring-mainstream-news-about-gang-stalking#ixzz1gGhM9yPz

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at 19:11 on November 23rd, 2011
Excuse me? How does my pointing out all the DISINFORMATION
YOU PUBLISH make me a disinformation artist? Am I posting unsubstantiated claims as fact? Hardly.
This is pretty funny you say this:
The gravity of the public safety risk can not even be properly assessed by anyone outside of state security because there is an effective blackout.
So the source for all the fiction you've been writing is what? You pull it out of your ass or you work for this program?
I'll say it again, DISINFO is not calling you out on all the disinfo YOU post, it's what YOU post.
And you are NOT a TI.
at 19:36 on November 23rd, 2011
I have a an internal police Memo from Santa Cruz P.D. stating that "gang stalking has implications to workplace violence". Do you think there might be a reason why most cops don't have the balls to discuss this issue like Larry Richard did?
If the full extent of the Program became public, or, even subjected to congressional inquiry ,all these cops would be left with is their under water houses. After losing their jobs, pensions, families, they would retire with a gun barrel in their mouth. That is the MOTIVE for the cover-up.
How many FBI special agents have the "bravery" to live by their own principles and end up like this one?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(FBI_agent)
BTW, before calling my work "disinfo" want don't you produce any info yourself? No balls, no brains, or, not your job.
at 06:35 on November 25th, 2011
Jack Ryan (FBI agent)
FBI Agent Fired for Beliefs Tries to Reclaim Job
The Spy Who Said No
at 23:00 on November 25th, 2011
I'm not surprised your comment turns toward invoking unrelated issues of Jack Ryan and assuming your disinformation would be more credible if I endeavored to proliferate the internet with some of my own.
Does not compute.
So tell me, how much extra time do you spend logging off and going back once an hour to recommend your own comments over and over? Are you assuming we're all stupid and believe all of a sudden you're the most popular guy on nowpublic, and 4-6 users are hanging on your every post and tagging them within hours of them appearing? Go ahead and lie that you don't, it comes as easy for you as telling the truth, right?
at 09:23 on November 24th, 2011
It's good that you mention the Pam Anderson affair.
Finally you have come to wisdom.
It's of course very unfortunate that a nut case escorst a mentally ill woman to the shooting range and then leaves her alone for a minute, so she can take the time to make her mind up and kill herself. And then, in a very strange twist, Derrick Robinson announces that he's going to reintroduce the buddy system, so more mentally ill people can be escorted to the shooting range in the future. Yes, indeed, a success formula. And then the RFID screening sessions and shielding tips, more success formulas to make crazy people crazier than they already are. Maybe I should write to the president about that? In Belgium this isn't possible. She could never have laid her hands on a gun.
If you want to survive this, then stay away from FFCHS.
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anonymousX (not verified)at 09:38 on November 24th, 2011
RE: Pam June Anderson suicide Heightened risk from birth coming from a military/government connected family. Her obituary states her families wish for all donations for her to go to "Best Friends Animal Sanctuary": www.legacy.com/obituaries/sbsun/obituary.aspx?n=pamela-june-anderson&pid=153660307&fhid=8517 Sound innocent enough? "Best Friends Animal Sanctuary" formerly known as The Process Church of the Final Judgment, a notorious cult/CIA front. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Friends_Animal_Society
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Maybetarget888 (not verified)at 18:35 on November 22nd, 2011
by the way other T.I.s.. it DOES STOP. The whole thing is ran by fusion center based contracted mil intel perps and various law enforcement cronies. These guys are all very reactionary. They are the most knee jerk, oh yeah???, act up and well show them numbskulls out there. So once you settle down and sell all your phones, computers, etc.the gangstalking STOPS. Not that I'm encouraging anyone to stop activisming. Of course, some people maybe are targeted for life, more as experiments by sick scientific government factions,, I dont know... //???
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LastWord (not verified)at 19:01 on November 22nd, 2011
We don't know what we don't know.
But, if some of you are right and "they" are using some sort of "bioweapon" or "electronic weapon" on certain targeted individuals then "they" are obviously committing a unlawful conspiratorial crime that illegally nullifies every constitutional right and every law of the land.
So, no matter why it's being done "gangstalking", in part or whole, is a an unlawful conspiratorial crime taken against one or more individuals which illegally nullifies the victim's constitutional and legal rights.
Of course, I'm just creatively guessing about all this, because we don't know what we don't know.
at 21:45 on November 22nd, 2011
On the face of it I'd say "well no shyte!" but there are a few things most people aren't thinking about there.
We know damn well IF the gov't embarked on such madness they have the presence of mind to cover their asses legally.
To that effect some trivia:
It is illegal for DOJ and DHS agencies to test experimental weapons on US citizens without prior consent. (though some loopholes are possible in wartime situations)
It IS however perfectly legal for them to test experimental surveillance technologies on US citizens with no consent or notice at all.
Got that?
More trivia.
The active denial system utilizes microwave energy centered at a bandwidth of 95 ghz.
Many through the wall surveillance technologies being tested and deployed operate in UWB (ultra wide band) mode centered at a frequency of- that's right- 95 ghz.
Who's to say a unit being used for legal surveillance experiments can't incorporate a solid state gyrotron or other millimeter wave source with an adjustable power output that may be less than instant "goodbye effect" pain but merely periodic discomfort for harrassment?
Got all those little factoids? Now try this:
George W. Bush relaxed the FBI's standards for initiating investigations, placing a person under surveillance, and hiring independent contractors to put someone under surveillance. They no longer need show reason you are suspect in a crime of even a crime having been committed, before paying sums of money to "informants" and "contractors" to engage in forms of "surveillance" against citizens-and we know the DOJ has made no secret about wanting to hurry testing on directed energy weapons AND TWS technologies on their way to putting them in the hands of local law enforcement.
Furthermore, that WAPost article "Top Secret
America" didn't seem to note one detail about those 800,000 people working in top secret jobs: Top Secret status makes it a federal crime for a person with such clearance to EVER come forward about what he did in said employment, but also makes it a federal crime for the media to even pursue asking them what they did.
So we can posit a scenario where much of that would not only be legal, but illegal for anyone to even look to see if it were happening!
So I guess you might get mad at me because in a way I'm calling you wrong. Now you know some disturbing things you perhaps did not know before. Don't add them all up to be a scenario I am directly claiming, I am strongly against misleading claims. Those are however individually true facts.
Oh and here's the real kicker- don't even bother trying to get the public behind slowing down the push to proliferate DEW to man portable size in every squadroom in America, they are all for it and who can blame them? To them, torture happens in other countries, right- and the fact is, a pain ray gun in every cop's holster instead of or in addition to (the more likely case) a firearm would save thousands of lives every year.
You'd look pretty stupid arguing otherwise.
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LastWord (not verified)at 10:49 on November 23rd, 2011
"Who's to say a unit being used for legal surveillance experiments can't incorporate a solid state gyrotron or other millimeter wave source with an adjustable power output that may be less than instant "goodbye effect" pain but merely periodic discomfort for harrassment?"
That's right, we don't know what we don't know.
But here you are claiming the "I didn't know the gun was loaded" defense about the "electronic harassment" being reported by many victims.
I wonder how that would play out in a court of law?
Did the spirit of the law enabling surveillance on anyone at anytime really intend for lawful citizens to become the targets of this surveillance? Is harassment, psychological damage, and sensitization a lawful part of surveillance? Or is it merely an unfortunate side-effect of surveillance - the "I didn't know the gun was loaded" defense?
But, of course, once again, this is ALL guesswork. Because we don't know what we don't know. We don't know that advanced technology, like "thru the wall", is being used on targets - do we? For all we know the most advanced surveillance "they" use may merely consist of watching targets thru binoculars.
And, as you have so astutely pointed out on several occassions - the gangstalking that many victims report could merely be the work of random dickheads. As you have said, only a schizophrenic would even notice that gangstalking seems to be tightly coordinated and is happening everywhere they go.
No, I'm not mad at you for calling me wrong, because I'm always right about one thing - we don't know what we don't know.
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anonymousX (not verified)at 11:19 on November 23rd, 2011
money.cnn.com/2011/11/22/technology/malls_track_cell_phones_black_friday/index.htm WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW EITHER!
at 14:49 on November 25th, 2011
LOL, "spirit of the law" isn't relevant here, at all. I was just pointing out some unconnected points that could add up to one way they would be covering their ass legally.
For all we know the most advanced surveillance "they" use may merely consist of watching targets thru binoculars.
True and I guess it would be hypocritical of me to claim as fact these technologies we can confirm the government has and is available to private parties as well, are actually being used since I'm blasting Peacefrog for unsupported claims.
However I feel something does monitor me 7/24 in my home, (not far outside of it though) and does give me feedback within a few seconds. You could acomplish much of it surveillance wise with a high powered microphone and a person highly trained to interpret the sounds.
Backscatter Xray and millimeter wave radar have tremendous capabilities and can be confirmed to be in the hands of various law enforcement agencies. Theorizing they would not be using them, (provided this is a government operation which has yet to be proven but okay we'll assume it is) would be like assuming they are walking 5 miles to go to the store when they have a car they could drive.
As you have said, only a schizophrenic would even notice that gangstalking seems to be tightly coordinated and is happening everywhere they go.
No, you've completely misinterpreted my statements. Only a schizophrenic mind would be calculating patterns in mundane items, or feel so uncomfortable around others in public that they mistake other people's idiosyncracies to be gangtalking THEM.
So it's "only a schizophrenic would interpret a series of mundane events which are witnessed by everyone else, all the time, to be a tighly coordinated program called gangstalking"
Unfortunately when you have all these bogus activists like the author of this article "educating" people to expect this kind of nonsense even normal people believe for awhile it could be true. A few of these "tactics" I was led to believe were happening (single horn honks) but found later there were more reasonable explanations behind them. (keyless entry in some new cars)
I resent the fact that because of some moron's ignorance I was jumping around on edge close to a year from that, and now that I'm trying to eliminate a lot of this nonsense one of the chief sources of nonsense is claiming I'm working against TI's? WTF?
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getreal2 (not verified)at 22:05 on November 25th, 2011
Battdude said - "No, you've completely misinterpreted my statements. Only a schizophrenic mind would be calculating patterns in mundane items, or feel so uncomfortable around others in public that they mistake other people's idiosyncracies to be gangtalking THEM."
Actually, victims plied with so-called non-lethal nerve-agents display similar symptoms, that is, after they were poisoned as such by covert means.
at 22:51 on November 25th, 2011
Do you have a source for that claim and is this something claimed by a significant number of victims?
Seems to me someone might be grasping at any straw they can to continue the "I don't have to confront my mental illness if I can convince everyone I'm being gangstalked" agenda by establishing a reason or excuse for abnormal thought patterns.
I'm open for anything, however, if you got links let's see 'em. I've never heard that claimed by anyone. (of course such drugs exist, I don't dispute that. They would show up in a blood test and be evidence, which is why I don't see this as happening)
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getreal2 (not verified)at 02:17 on December 1st, 2011
You know that I do not have a source for factual events that you are shilling for.
You are not really worth any more written or verbal efforts.
Your postings are your legacy, transparent, translucent or opaque.
History could and I hope will reveal the truth about you and all this.
Batvette? A veteran that believes he is a Batman like character for his government, routing out dissent for the greater good?
A man living with and acting on delusions, calling victims of these assaults "schizophrenic."
Make me laugh, little man.
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EatThisDickHead (not verified)at 00:16 on December 8th, 2011
Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).
Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our case are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.
at 05:12 on November 26th, 2011
Batvette writes,
However I feel something does monitor me 7/24 in my home, (not far outside of it though) and does give me feedback within a few seconds.
Do you really think a mere handful of people in your community are doing "7/24" surveillance of you with real time feedback? Do you think all the other reports of such harassment/surveillance are "crazy nutters" (yourself excluded of course)? Does this fit the modus operandi of an organization of random dickheads?
Doesn't it seem more likely, even based on your own limited admissions, that a vast Stasi-like network of organized citizen spies/snitches are being employed directly by the government?
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LastWord (not verified)at 18:28 on November 26th, 2011
However I feel something does monitor me 7/24 in my home
You "feel" that "something" is monitoring you?
So you are concluding that you are being watched in your home, because of a "feeling" you have?
Or is there something more to it than that, because that's just pathetic. Talk about "educating".
Also you are indirectly claiming that since various law enforcement agencies have access to radar equipment, they must be doing it to you - because you are claiming the radar "does give me feedback within a few seconds".
Do you have any proof? I didn't think so.
As you have said before batvettester, and I agree totally - all "gangstalking" is done by random dickheads! Nuff said!
at 09:34 on November 24th, 2011
The problem with the scope of gang stalking is that most victims are probably unaware. For example, when the undercover agent Kris Daels published his biography, he didn't seem to understand that what happened to him was gang stalking. They made him believe that his boss was the pimp of his wife ('slut Babette'). He made a file about that and went to the prosecutor, who threw it in a bin. Then he had to search another job.
Luring you into a marriage and then ask a divorce and make you pay many years for the child is also a preferred gang stalking tactic against men who are not a freemason. They tried this with me too. Fortunately I never got excited by the sight of a woman. That was really helpful. My uncle had 2 divorces. And he had a car accident. He lost an eye. He was 28. He paid for 5 children. And he lost his house.
And there must be many more who don't realize that they are a targeted individual.
I think that most targeted individuals are aware of some harassment, but they don't find the way to the gang stalking sites. For example, someone who hears voices will google "hearing voices" and then he finds only websites that say that this is a disease. If you create a website like www.hearingvoices-gangstalking.com then you will lead such victims to the gang stalking sites. This is a good form of activism.
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 17:27 on November 24th, 2011
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 17:26 on November 24th, 2011
Comment by "LastWord": "And, as you have so astutely pointed out on several occassions - the gangstalking that many victims report could merely be the work of random dickheads. As you have said, only a schizophrenic would even notice that gangstalking seems to be tightly coordinated and is happening everywhere they go."/////////////What a joke! Disinformation? Who knows, but both of the aforementioned statements are absolutely false.
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 17:30 on November 24th, 2011
Comment by "LastWord": "And, as you have so astutely pointed out on several occassions - the gangstalking that many victims report could merely be the work of random dickheads. As you have said, only a schizophrenic would even notice that gangstalking seems to be tightly coordinated and is happening everywhere they go."/////////////What a joke! Disinformation? Who knows, but both of the aforementioned statements are absolutely false.
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the hell? (not verified)at 20:02 on November 24th, 2011
What makes you say that both statements are false? What makes you believe that many of the stories could not simply be due to random dickheads? it seems perfectly feasible moreso than a massive government conspiracy.
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 08:20 on November 25th, 2011
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 08:21 on November 25th, 2011
The converse of "we don't know what we don't know" is "we do know what we do know." Or in short, “WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW.” And we know a lot.
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 08:32 on November 25th, 2011
Quote: Glenn Greenwald about Cass Sunstein: "He acknowledges that some “conspiracy theories” previously dismissed as insane and fringe have turned out to be entirely true."///////////// (full quote):"Sunstein’s response to these criticisms is easy to find in what he writes, and is as telling as the proposal itself. He acknowledges that some “conspiracy theories” previously dismissed as insane and fringe have turned out to be entirely true (his examples: the CIA really did secretly administer LSD in “mind control” experiments; the DOD really did plot the commission of terrorist acts inside the U.S. with the intent to blame Castro; the Nixon White House really did bug the DNC headquarters). Given that history, how could it possibly be justified for the U.S. Government to institute covert programs designed to undermine anti-government “conspiracy theories,” discredit government critics, and increase faith and trust in government pronouncements? Because, says Sunstein, such powers are warranted only when wielded by truly well-intentioned government officials who want to spread The Truth and Do Good — i.e., when used by people like Cass Sunstein and Barack Obama://///// Throughout, we assume a well-motivated government that aims to eliminate conspiracy theories, or draw their poison, if and only if social welfare is improved by doing so.//////// But it’s precisely because the Government is so often not “well-motivated” that such powers are so dangerous. Advocating them on the ground that “we will use them well” is every authoritarian’s claim. More than anything else, this is the toxic mentality that consumes our political culture: when our side does X, X is Good, because we’re Good and are working for Good outcomes. That was what led hordes of Bush followers to endorse the same large-government surveillance programs they long claimed to oppose, and what leads so many Obama supporters now to justify actions that they spent the last eight years opposing." (end full quote)///////www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
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anonymousXX (not verified)at 08:42 on November 25th, 2011
Let's repeat this:///////// “The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”////////////////// J. Edgar Hoover on COINTELPRO
at 14:22 on November 25th, 2011
Since the source of that statement is the founder of COINTELPRO, and the foundation of COINTELPRO was spreading disinformation to mislead and derail activist groups, why would you consider Hoover's statements as candid and truthful?
That statement is right along the lines of what I've been saying about the unsubstantiated claims in this article- take something the size and scope of "x" and make it appear to be as big as "xxxxxxxxx" and the fear of it will allow "x" to do the job "xxxxxxxxx" could do without the resource expenditures.
But again, why would Hoover be telling the truth?
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YeahRight (not verified)at 21:29 on November 25th, 2011
These organised, so-called less-lethal, biological, chemical and electronic assaults are a fact. Could these assaults only be financed by a government that has access to unlimited funds, taxes paid?
Is this most likely the *US Secret Police* partly or mostly enabled by the *Patriot Act.*
"random dickheads?"
There is nothing random about these assaults, although how the *targets* are acquired is more than questionable.
If these targets are called "terrorists," does that provide a profit base for certain defence contractors, that stand to gain from keeping these assaults going, while demonstrating/proving their evil weapons.
Is this a case of "the targets and how they were acquired be damned, the money *is* all that counts?"
at 22:37 on November 25th, 2011
Why couldn't it be an organization of random dickheads motivated by ideology, some of whom hold government positions?
The financing is not as big of an issue as you'd think, you do realize that people will donate large sums of money as well as volunteer work to get politicians who advance their ideologies elected? Of course "defense contractors" can sell technology to just about anyone.
What I'm positing is the possibility of some do-gooder organization on a mission to rid the communities and the world of people who do not fit their idea of perfection. It's easier to believe than people engaged in this just because they like their government jobs.
That's always been a sticking point for me to accept it's government. So you join the FBI or some similar LE entity why, usually? A combination of morals, security of government employment and retirement benefits, maybe the kind of person who enjoys adventure. Despite contrary claims by some, taking pleasure in sadistic activities is not usually on the list.
I have a hard time believing so many of these people are being turned to the "dark side" and ignore the constitution and turn to what's being posited here without more of them coming out as participants and squeeling.
I have a very easy time believing it's a private closed organization with a vision of how they want the world to be in X number of years and would see great benefit in filling the internet with disinformation leading us all to wrongfully accuse and thus forever alienate the sole law enforcement entity who would have jurisdiction to investigate their crimes, as well as fear their far reaching powers instead of the smaller, private organization.
The fact of the matter is not one participant in this has EVER come forward and confessed. Several million, whose only motivation would be to keep a government job?
I have to call bullshyte on that one. As usual I don't have the answers here, but to unsupported claims I have to point out there are too many logical faults to accept them.
A footnote about all these "less lethal, biological,chemical and electronic assaults are fact": I believe there is some kind of technology being employed in my case, for awhile I thought it could be RF energy based, now I'm less sure than ever what it might be. Some claims by self claimed TI's are nonsensical or worse, take Scrivener for example, he claims it must be cell towers but that is extremely unlikely, most of them have their equipment in plain view and if something were amiss too many would see it. His "assaults" consist of daily headaches, and he reports it all began about the time he had a stroke like event. Am I getting through here? Don't tally up the claims of the less than lucid to be evidence there must be employed some weapons of astronomical cost and scope, just as you should not tally up the number of people who claim to be psychologically ruined by jangling keys and lone cripples hobbling by on crutches when figuring how many gangstalkers there are.
That is unless you want to take a deep breath and assess your "activism" someday and realize you are surrounded by a bunch of nutters.
(in the end I'm not challenging your statements as they do have logic behind them. there is another way to approach the theory though that probably has equal logic as well)