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by YankeeJim | February 12, 2012 at 06:42 pm
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Iran wants to make it an Islamic cause. How about the Palestine people cause: the enclave cause and the how-do-you-make-economy-from-a-broken-stretch-of-land-with-more-people-than-resources-to- support-them cause. OK, Iran, chip in. What’s that? You can’t because you are squandering your resources on picking fights and developing nuclear weaponry that is ruining your own economy.
How about stop stirring the pot, Iran. Your kettle is boiling.
“Khamenei: Palestine ‘Islamic cause’
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH02/12/2012 19:46
Iran's supreme leader Khamenei expresses solidarity with Palestinians while meeting with Hamas PM Haniyeh.
By REUTERS
Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on Sunday voiced his country’s full support for Hamas in its fight against Israel and said Tehran considers the Palestinian issue an “Islamic cause.”
Khamenei’s remarks came during a meeting with Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, who is currently on an official visit to Iran.
The meeting between Khamenei and Haniyeh was the first of its kind since the latter assumed office after his movement won the January 2006 parliamentary election.
“Iran will always be supportive of the Palestinian cause and the Islamic resistance in Palestine,” the Tehran-based Mehr News Agency quoted Khamenei as saying.
Khamenei added that the “recent victories in Palestine were partially responsible for the Islamic awakening in the region” – a reference to the rise to power of Islamists in a number of Arab countries, including Tunisia and Egypt.
“Undoubtedly, the accumulating sentiments of the region’s peoples toward the cause of the Gaza Strip led to the sudden eruption of the volcano in the region,” the Iranian leader told Haniyeh.
Khamenei also warned against attempts by unnamed parties to “undermine” Hamas, but did not elaborate.
“We have no doubt about your resistance and that of many of your brothers, and the people only have this expectation of you,” he said.
Haniyeh, for his part, thanked the Iranian leadership for its “ongoing” support of Hamas and the Palestinian cause. Invited to Iran to participate in celebrations marking the 33rd anniversary of the Islamic Revolution, he underlined the three strategies of his government: “liberating Palestine from the sea to the river, abiding by the resistance and affirming the Islamic character of the Palestinian cause.”
The visit came amid deepening divisions within Hamas over last week’s Qatari-sponsored reconciliation agreementbetween the movement and Fatah. The deal calls for naming Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas as prime minister of a new Palestinian unity government.
Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal has come under sharp criticism for signing the pact.
Over the weekend, Mahmoud Zahar, a top Hamas official in the Gaza Strip, came out publicly against Mashaal, saying theagreement had been a “mistake.”
While Zahar and most of the Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip expressed opposition to the deal under the pretext that it included far-reaching concessions to Abbas and Fatah, representatives of the movement in the West Bank praised it.
A Hamas official in Ramallah said Zahar’s criticism “reflected only his personal opinion.”
The official, who asked not to be identified, also lashed out at Haniyeh for visiting Iran “at this very sensitive period.”He and other Hamas officials have noted that the visit came at a time when other Hamas leaders were trying to distance themselves from Iran and Syria.
The official expressed concern that the Iranians, in return for providing financial and military aid, would ask the Islamist group to support Syrian President Bashar Assad.”
Via the Jerusalem Post
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at 20:05 on February 12th, 2012
The Gaza solution should be to give it back to Egypt. It amounts to a few square miles that has become a beach and rubble dump crippled by Israeli/American sanctions. The huge fence/wall separating Gaza from Egypt can be replaced by a wall separating Israel from Egyptian controlled Gaza.
I think the world has shown that it is more than willing to help the West Bank recover from crippling imperialist sanctions, and rebuild its economy.
Anyway, why is it that America can wage wars and shadow wars with drones and still be the bearer of peace and democracy while Iran is slammed for merely making some saber rattling comments? This country is full of hypocrites.
at 02:57 on February 13th, 2012
Do you believe that Egypt has self-control? Do you think Egypt wants the problem any more than Jordan?
at 04:40 on February 13th, 2012
RE: Egyptian self control
Did the State Dep't or CIA consider 'Egyptian self control' when they helped instigate the uprising in Egypt, or, when they used NATO to enforce a no fly zone?
at 01:12 on February 14th, 2012
America is sooo much worse than Iran! Iran doesn't hang gay teens in public nor stone women to death for adultery... oh wait that's right they do. Hooray for Sharia law!
at 07:51 on February 14th, 2012
I am speaking of Iran as a better member of the international community than the U.S. They aren't occupying any sovereign states, or waging war on anyone, or drone assassinations, or killing other countries scientists. We are!
at 11:36 on February 15th, 2012
LOL, that's a lot like coming down on the police for being mean to criminals.
Occupying sovereign nations? Like who, Afghanistan? You got a problem with that? Okay so the next time a nation aids and abets the most deadly terror attack in our history, we will just nuke them instead of invading them and assisting with improving their lives. Works for me.
"waging war on anyone" Yeah because not getting involved and sitting by with useless whining is much better.
at 13:13 on February 15th, 2012
Although we have a right to occupy Afghanistan, after 11 years and over a trillion dollars, the American puppet government wants to negotiate with the Taliban because they want us out. This is not progress or winning. This is a country that Alexander the Great and the USSR failed to conquer. A massive bombing campaign focused on Kabul could have crippled the Taliban in the same way Bush 1 won Desert Storm.
As far as the drone wars in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, they are only breading anti-American radicals.
at 02:53 on February 16th, 2012
I'm actually with you on the drone wars (being bad policy) but as far as bombing the Taliban as a solution to 9/11 that wasn't going to do it. This would simply continue the actions which caused 9/11 in the first place- Clinton's solution had always been to stand back and launch Tomahawks or drop bombs on peasants in villages. This infuriates Arab Muslims as it never gives them the opportunity to fight back one on one against their attackers.
The middle east is a region of brutality yet deep honor. There is no way we were going to get anywhere without sending men in on the ground and giving them a chance to fight back yet see us beat them forcefully.
So you concede we had a right to be in Afghanistan. How about Iraq? By international law we were merely resuming hostilities as pre-empted by cease fire from Desert Storm. We were asked to intervene, Saddam was the aggressor. By 2003 there were a number of complicating factors going on but legally the original conflict was by Saddam's choosing and he never displayed the complete submission required of him for his neighbors, our allies, to feel safe without our presence- and that presence had become difficult as starving a million Iraqi muslims to death and troops in KSA caused 9/11. I don't think it's fair to portray the US as the bad guy in most of these policy actions and doing so takes the blinders of looking at it with less than half the facts.
It would be nice if we could truly realize a world at peace and no wars. This ignores that man has always existed in some state of war. Isn't it foolish to think this would suddenly change just because we were born now and wish it? If the US weren't the policeman of the world, who would be? We're criticized when we intervene and criticized when we don't. (Rwanda? Darfur?) As these things cost money it should be no surprise we pick such interventions in a manner favoring our economic interests, you would find the police dept. of your local city or county also delegates the use of its investigative resources in a similar manner- a burglary at the bank will be pursued with more dedication than one at your home.
More to this article, so many of our ME troubles can be traced back to the policies of Jimmy Carter who emasculated the CIA, causing multiple factions including the KGB to undermine the Shah's rule at the same time he was helping enrage the people by offering public support for him. Iran was doing many of the peacekeeping duties in the area we were subsequently forced into. The people of Iran suffered, the US was forced into more intervention, Carter's "Pollyanna" policies were disastrous.
at 03:22 on February 13th, 2012
Maybe Gaza is a "rubble dump" as you call it because of the belligerency of the "owners" of that dump. Hamas owns the people and the DUMP. Except of course for the villas they all live in by the sea.
The world is not interested in the Palestinians. If they were they would have pushed for a compromise. Until the Palestinian leadership believes that it will not and can not have the entire piece of land from the sea to the Jordan there will be no solution.
Filling the children with sanctioned educational hate material does not make this journey any easier. However, more economic opportunities in the West Bank being provided by Israeli encouragement is creating a large middle class that on an individual level is not interested in any more conflicts.
Fatah and Abbas have a sweet deal. They receive tens of millions of dollars from the enabling EU and the U.S.. This kind of charity is truly racist in that it allows for the continuation of bad behavior encouraging the narrative of "victim hood." Sound familiar!
at 04:44 on February 13th, 2012
The brave Turkish Armada and their international counterparts proved that the people of the world are interested in the Palestinians. It is their corrupted leaders who are only interested in quid pro quo politics and the status quo.
Part of this large middle class includes new illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank.
As far as the U.S. giving millions to their preferred 'leader',this is, unfortunately, how Washington does business and controls the world.
at 05:37 on February 13th, 2012
To the three points you make.
1)Maybe? A handful of anti-Zionists, anti-Israel folks does not make for global concern. Really, this is a dream.
2) NOT TRUE. I live here and see first hand. You my friend live in another world.
3) Yes with a but. If the U.S. controlled the world this world would be very different. This is a "childish" response and does little to give credence to your arguments.
at 06:11 on February 13th, 2012
I would not call the Gaza blockade busters "anti-Israel", but rather, "anti-occupation". Some of these ships were carrying medicine that was being withheld by punitive Israeli sanctions.
If the U.S. did not have a permanent member U.N. security council veto, the world would be a very different place. There is nothing positive you can state about U.S. hegemony ,except that, as an Israeli, its friendship with Israel allows the stalemate over a two state solution to be a permanent roadblock (as opposed to the disingenuous negotiations called a "roadmap" to a peaceful settlement)..
at 08:12 on February 13th, 2012
first point: Nonsense to the medicine. I hope you really understand that the little medicine that was sent on one of the boats was severely out of date. Also, Israel, yes Israel sends so many supplies into Gaza: medical and other humanitarian supplies. That is just for starters. Besides they are constant goods coming and going into Gaza everyday. You need to stop reading all your propaganda and search for the Truth of what is really taking place.
2) this is todays response from Hamas:
Haniyeh: No compromise, only armed resistance.
Only arms and no compromise should be used in dealing with the "Zionist regime, the Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh as saying Monday.
The "Gun is our only response to Zionist regime [sic]. In time, we have come to understand that we can obtain our goals only through fighting and armed resistance and no compromise should be made with the enemy," Haniyeh said.
Abbas: We Won't Recognize Israel as a Jewish State
by Elad Benari
Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said on Sunday that the PA will not meet Israel’s demand that it recognize Israel as the Jewish State, Kol Yisrael radio reported.
According to the report, Abbas explained this statement using the reasoning that once that the PA agrees to this requirement, there would be no value to the million and a half PA Arabs living in Israel, and no refugee would be allowed to come back to Israel, in keeping with the PA demand that Israel allow millions of Arab refugees to return to their old homes in Israeli cities as part of a future agreement.
PeaceFrog: I understand that you have an ideological bent that does not allow you to SEE the world through a different lens. However, and I mean this with respect, either you are young and have not experienced the world very much or you are an angry old guard warrior feeling disenfranchised.
I am never suggested that Israel is always right but I am saying that the Israeli/Palestinian situation can end with the willingness of the PA to compromise and sit down and go through the process of negotiations.
at 01:08 on February 14th, 2012
I gotta laugh at the idea of Palestinians in such dire need of medicine they need it to be brought in from outside sources.
This is priceless:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/new_signs.php?sign=22
Puts some perspective on it....
at 13:17 on February 15th, 2012
The Gaza sanctions affect the daily lives and health of 1.5 million:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7545636.stm
at 03:19 on February 16th, 2012
I've no doubt it has, yet your story details that medicine has been allowed virtually without restrictions.
Perhaps if they wish to improve their lives they would stop pursuing the destruction of Israel as a nation state?
It is often difficult for outside observers to choose a side but the UN established Israel as a refuge for Jews after WW2. The UN is widely accepted as the "court of the world". Arab Muslims have sought to undermine this world court's decision ever since due to their paranoid religious fears of the spread of Judaism through the Zionist faction. In some cases their paranoia is justified and I do not support Israeli expansion when it appears motivated by Zionist agenda- yet also recognize that as long as one Jew lives on that strip of land, Muslims will try to drive him off it. Each side is not without fault.
The dealbreaker always seems that Israel is willing to negotiate peaceful solutions they would stick by but the Arab Muslim world does not really want that, and are using the Palestinian people to fight a war of genocide against Israeli Jews they lack the ability or stomach to fight themselves.
On a personal level I'd describe most Arabs I've known as honorable yet volatile and crazy and most Jews as charming yet hold deep seated racist contempt for us "Goyas". (never have I been treated with the disrespect as I was by the rabbi of a local Chabad when I delivered furniture to them- yet the older Jewish guys I worked with at the store for years remain today some of the best humans I've ever known) Persians being more even tempered than their Arab neighbors yet just as passionate, probably more logical.
Individuals do not make a whole people though so I hesitate to paint any of them with a broad brush based upon those I've known.
Isn't it f u c k e d that so much of why they all want to kill each other is over whose imaginary friend is the best?
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 07:23 on February 16th, 2012
It's not that the Arab Palestinians as individuals [on their own accord] want to participate in terrorism and the destruction of Israel. They are being paid to participate. Offered incentives in the form of UNRWA and direct Arab support and investment in materiel and arms. The people who can not afford to escape the PLO/HAMAS/Fatah soon succumb to the constant brainwashing and rhetoric of hate of that leadership* [very liberal use of term]. Keep in mind that the PLO/HAMAS/Fatah have driven a great many people from the area. According to UNRWA Arab Palestinian refugees number approx. 5 million. The great Arab Palestinian dysphoria is manufactured. It is structured intent to keep those unable to escape coming forward as martyrs. It is the jihadist's self-fulfilling prophecy. One you as a American support with your tax dollars to the tune of $250 million last year and $55 million since Jan. 2012. It would be more honest to go there and pull the trigger yourself rather than pay the Arab Palestinian to do so by proxy of our investment in UNRWA.
at 21:56 on February 16th, 2012
It's not that the Arab Palestinians as individuals [on their own accord] want to participate in terrorism and the destruction of Israel. They are being paid to participate.
That is exactly the situation as I have come to believe it exists. That filthy pig Arafat died a very wealthy man by betraying his people, putting them up for some false promise of martyrdom while he repeatedly came to the table for peace but pushed it away when it was in his grasp.
What do you say though to those who quietly believe that a tangible goal is the restoration of Palestinian lands pre 1948? It's not going to happen, deal with it or just move along- the more violence you bring fighting for it, the less of what remains is yours.
I don't know what US support for Palestinians amounts to but I have always laughed at those who portray our regional alliance as all pro-Israeli. This ignores our deep economic and military friendship with the Royal family of the Kingdom of Saud. We owe them most of the credit for all our prosperity since 1973 for the license to print money their OPEC swing vote ensures, backing our fiat dollars with black gold.
We do walk a precarious line.
You have to sympathize with those in the occupied zones, I recall around 2002 the average per capita income of young, military age adult males was less than $2 a day. No wonder Saddam had little trouble getting volunteers to blow themselves up for a $25k paycheck for their next of kin left behind.
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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 07:46 on February 17th, 2012
Imaginary friends... exceeds the religious. For the Arab Palestinian the Syrian-Egyptian born Arafat was no friend. He used the poor, stole from the poor, to advance his Pan-Arabist/Pan-Islamist Egyptian brotherhood agenda. Principally the introduction of the Islamic Shariah as the basis controlling the affairs of state and society; and to bring Islamic countries and states into a imperial center. Of course this was to be accomplished with the gun in the name of um.... democracy. One can hardly blame the poor and uneducated Arab Palestinian for their confusion in accepting this benevolent State with their nose stuck up the barrel of a AK47 while being beaten down with Arafat's version of Shariah and Islamic jihad. Anyone with a speck of self-survival would immediately look beyond their immediate circumstance for an enemy. Be that Israel or the Great Satan, the USA.
at 10:20 on February 13th, 2012
I concede that the issue is complicated by factors such as both the left and the right distorting basic facts and resorting to one-sided propaganda. I have listened to pro-Israel voices like Glenn Beck, David Horowitz, etc., and, I agree that they do mention meaningful facts that are purposefully ignored by the left.
The Arab League has said it accepts a two state solution. Even the Iranians and Hezbollah have stated an acceptance of a two state solution. The destructive statements made by the Iranians and Hezbollah are actually working against a solution for Palestinians.
Israel and the U.S. suffer from a similar problem. Neither of them trusts the enemy enough to allow much flexibility in their negotiations. They both end up with costly long-term occupations.
As far as the Arab right of return to Israeli cities, this would be the end of Israel. There may be more Palestinian refugee families living across the Persian Gulf than in the Palestinian territories. However, continuing settlements of Israelis in the West Bank is done at the cost of any viable two state solution.
There are complex issues here that will probably never be presented fairly by either side. This is because both sides believe that they will win through propaganda and not the necessary objective presentation of facts.