Israel Bunkers Down Prepares for War Crime Charges

by con10t | January 22, 2009 at 06:04 am
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World sentiment is growing that the state of Israel has knowingly committed atrocious war crimes against Palestinian children and civilians. The reason for the war crimes and child murder that Israel  gives in the blogosphere and press demeans and dishonors the victims of anti-Jewish crime. The general excuse that charges against Israel are based on anti-Semitism are not only baseless but toy with the horror and terror that many residents of Israel have known first hand or through family in the past. Such excuses are dangerous and exploit one holocaust for another.

It has been reported in counterpunch.org:
"Charges of war crimes are now being leveled—and justifiably so—at the Israelis, many of whom themselves come from families that suffered in the hands of the Nazis over 60 years ago and now claim that the Holocaust was the only tragedy—as if the far more numerous deaths of goyim throughout the world after 1945 count for nothing. The United Nations and human rights groups are demanding that Israel be brought to justice for what now amounts to having killed over 1300 Gazans with immense firepower, many of which, like phosphorous bombs, are illegal. Israel has already prepared its senior officers to be ready to defend themselves against war crimes charges and Israeli Attorney General Menahem Mazuz several weeks ago warned the government was expecting a “wave of international lawsuits.”

Calls from citizen journalists, concerned citizen groups, NGO organizations and international governing bodies such as the UN to prosecute the state of Israel for war crimes are not abating, nor should they. Clearly the general global public are concerned that if such crimes are not prosecuted the world is greatly endangered, not only emboldening factions of the Muslim world to react in kind, but in the loss of confidence in civil society and its guarantees of responsible and humane actions in times of war and peace.

There are many sites online that are encouraging all who wish to nip war crimes from becoming a standard as they were in the Bush Guantanamo era and the Israeli Gaza terror to act now and speak up, petition and continue to keep the issue of Israeli war crime present so that those responsible in Israeli are prosecuted and sentenced and free the decent Israeli public from any potential revenge or slander.

Some horror-evoking photos of the Israeli war crime in Gaza at canadiansforpalestine.

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Heritage

The legal actions are gaining traction.
Belgian court petitioned to arrest Israel's Foreign Minister

That said, Israel committed all the same crimes in Lebanon in 2006 and nothing happened...

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158

This in nothing more than anti Israel racism,

Let one of these Hamas boosters call for trials of Hamas for willful murders of Jewish children and I will listen to them.

Until they do this they have zero credibility.


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Citj

Jews are not a race but a people united by a religious philosophy!

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djsblack

Jews are a race, a people, a nation, and a religion. Don't the Arabs claim the semetic gene?

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con10t

158, you cannot be racist against a sovereign state. Israel is a country, not a race. You might want to check your rather tired argument, elevating Hamas and their counterterror is just out of scale with the war criminals and child murderers you excuse with false rebuttal of the inane characterization of 'anti Israel racism'. YOu do not respect the innocent Jews who were terrorized and murdered in the past by using their suffering to promote your hatred, with no basis in fact or human rights

I am no racist. Need I even state that to you? But the state of Isreal is a criminal regime that sparks counterterrorist activity by some small percentage of the population it oppresses, strangles, starves, abuses and murders. Try peace and see how enemies just lose their zeal.

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158

Anti Jewish racism is often disguised as resistance, liberation, whatever.

If Israel was 90% black this would be called racism.

Killing one child is a war crime if he is targeted.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT I RESPECT  when you defend Hamas baby killers. Of Jewish babies. Do you want 1000 Jewish babies dead before you call it a crime. 

And if just once you condemned Arabs killing Jewish babies you may have an issue.

When did hamas try peace.  Their charter says they will eliminate Israel.  Yesterday one of their top leaders said they will rearm and fire even more rackets at Jewish babies.

When you condemn Jews for the same crimes you excuse in Arabs that indicates anti-Simitism, which is racism.  I never said you are racist but some ot those you defend are.

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con10t

You have really lost it.

Resistance = anti-Semitism??

What is your slur on Africans intended to prove?

You fantasize that I defend Hamas baby killers? I beg your pardon. I expect an apology for that slanderous remark, and suggest you play fewer violent computer games to rein in your sick fantasies to an acceptable civil level.

Hamas tried peace when they held the ceasefire that Israel broke. And peace involves justice ans as long as Israel steals their land, commits international crime by setling land they occupied on the pretense of military security action, check international law on that if you like, and as long as Israel denies Palestinian their human rights, life and liberty, no peace is possible. YOu sound like a jailer upset that abused inmates don't accept a fate you demand and enforce with deadly force, even killing their children!

Who condemns Jews? Again your abuse of the many Jews who suffered terror in history, you cannot use their suffering as an excuse, that is disrespectful and demeans the real problem of anti-Semitism. Be careful not to easily make such accusations. It only makes real claims less likely to be taken seriously.

Adn you ought to check that war crime involves massacre, mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing. A war crime is perfectly defined by the Israeli baby and child murder in Gaza over the past month, 420 torturousl murdered, some burned, others smothered. You ought to do what you can to retribute those families rather than searching for meager excuses that are in fact no excuse. YOu know it's like a wifebeater's argument, when he says she made me do it. No one made Israel murder hundreds of children in Gaza over the past month alone.

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djsblack

There is irrefutable evidence and proof that the Hamas executed their own and used their own in booby trapped homes and civilian institutions that they fired and used fo war.

Anybody who claim and/or alleges about Israeli war crimes is just playing down and dirty politics and practicing anti-Semitism.

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con10t

djsblack,

the disrespect of those who have really suffered from anti-semtism seems to be the mantra that is repeated over and over as some bizarre form of rationalization for Isreali child murderers and war criminal, wich is freshly documented in Gaza.

to exploit the real problem of anti-semitism by flinging such assertions around, and lightly making such accusations is a disgrace to all the good people who perished from actual anti-Semitism, as veriiable in the terror emanating from eurasia in the early and mid-20th century, as the terror and war crimes just commtted by Isreali thugs and murderers against the Palestinians they rounded up and blockaded and then massacred over the past month or so.

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djsblack

Your ad-homonym rhetoric that is constantly recycled is not really endorsed anymore by the majority of the world. These slogans like "ethnic cleansing" "war crimes" etc. etc. are meaningless because people know that Hamas is the same thing as al-Qaeda and Iran.

The Gazans hitched their wagon to the wrong horse to their devastation.

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con10t

I suppose you could add Israel to your list if you count the number of children murdered and terrorized by Israeli soldiers, even using the children as human shields. Israeli soldiers in Gaza corralled families into the ground floor rooms and took up positions in their house, using them as human shields. It's a common Israeli tactic that would equate them with other terrorists. Israeli soldiers also take children at unpoint and trapse through the Gaza streest using them as human shields as well.

Al Qaeda is a far cry from Hamas. Iran is a country with an amazing culture that has serious and dangerous aspects now broght on in part by Israels mass murder of Palestinians. Dialogue with Iran, respecting them as a nation with the same rights as Israel - the right of all nations to destroy their nuclear stockpiles and banned weapons of war. Withour respect, tolerance and communication, Iran and Israel may bring the world to a brink, that is totally unnecesary.

I personally think that Hamas is not the best choice for Palestinians. But then Bush was also a terrorist torutring and economy destroying regime. Still it is the Palestinians and the Americans who must choose their leaders. The only influence that can be efective externally is diplomatic, aid, cultural exchange, celebration, and fairness. You cannot have a nuclear weapon and expect other nations not to have this now banal available technology.

If Israel bombs Iran on the pretext that they possess nuclear capability, are you stupid enough to think that it's only a matter of a few months or years until that capability pops up somewhere else? I don't think so. Your thinking is short-term but life on the planet is long-term. Only respect, tolerance, fairness and not massacring, stealing land, and hoarding one's own nuclear arsenal will lead to long term peace. Why not?

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con10t

Please then provide your irrefutable evidence, stop your arrogant pontificating.

You spit of the graves of the Jews annihilated in the Holocaust by arrogantly and blindly and without any grounds equating the UN documented Israeli war crimes in Gaza with anti-Semitism.

Ne careul not to eploit the REAL problem of racism and anti-Semitism and a lazy, easy and sentimentalizing excuse and characterization of decent human beings who abhor Israel's massacre of children in Gaza. Or are facts and photographs, eye witness UN accounts simply mean its all anti-Semitism. I feel sorry for the Jews who suffered REAL anti-Semitism in history from Andalusia to the Third Reich as you demean their sufering and loss by quipping the word anti-Semitism like a weapon in any circumstance. Racism is a REAL problem and cannot be easily applied without facts and proof, otherwise it will lose its meaning and disrespect those who suffer as a result of REAL racism.

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158

It doesn't matter. Jews are a distinct ethnic group, mostly descended from semites of the middle east. And I use racism to show this is no different than racism against black people, or Europeans or Chinese.  And blaming Israel only while ignoring Hamas crimes is racism.

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Citj

The original biblical and Hebrew Jews were a black African people. The present day counterfeit Jews are white people from Europe called “Khazars”, and they usurped the real Jews. However, the real black African and African American Jews can, and have proved that they are the descendents of the original Jews by way of Genetic testing-which has proven not only that they are the real and direct descendents of the original black African Jews, but a proximation of the tribe they are from, too. The present white Khazar Jews are converted Jews-and are not even the descendents of the original black Jews of Africa-and DNA testing has already proven this-even after the Khazars tried to tamper with the testing in order to justify their immoral and violent occupation of north central Israel. The black Jews already have their established homelands in Southern Israel, and have for over 50 years now. No black can even enter Israel without being genetically tested to prove they are a Jew first. Presently, there are over 5000 African Americans living in the black Jewish settlements of southern Israel, and millions more living in the various black Jewish settlements on the African Continent. The present converted white Khazar Jews of Israel can try and claim that anyone speaking negatively against them are “anti-semitic”, however, they are not semitic, but converted Jews who are unlawfully occupying Israel, and helping bring the American economy to its knees for their own economic goals, and to try and gain world power. They know they have to destroy the present super power, and they know that getting America embroiled in war is a quick way of accomplishing this. The Khazars used tactics and strategies like this in Ancient times because they were successful-and they are using them today with Ameirca, while pretending to be America’s friend-because these tactics are successful. However, their future has already been fortold in the book Ezekiel…


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gahooch

I read the article and checked their sources and I didn't see anything indicating (1) serious peer review scholarship or (2) primary sources.  Indeed, they seem to reference each other as sources, also know as a circle-jerk. 

Since this refutes all historical, demographical, and anthropological research, I would like to read more on this so please provide authoritative sources.

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Yellow Guitar

Complete bollocks. Which bible are you reading ... the Aryan edition? The first Jew - if you want to go biblical - was the son of an idol-maker in the city of Ur. That's Sumer pal, smack dab in the middle of southern Iraq. If you're going to invoke the 'word of god' please at least get your sources straight. The black 'Falasha' Jews of Ethiopia are the anomaly, not the other way around as your article suggests.

Also, the Khazar myth of Ashkenazi origins has been floated by every major anti-Semite from Arthur Koestler to Jim Keegstra. Like other racists, you claim the Khazars were European people? Nice try. Khazars were central Asian nomads - Turkish, perhaps, or maybe even Mongol-like - who invaded, settled and ruled the Caspian area from their capital at Itil on the Volga delta. These people were not Europeans and in all likelihood resembled other people of central Asia more than European. Yes, they converted to Judaism, but there is absolutely nothing beyond mere speculation - and very far-fetched historically and ethnographically - to even begin to suggest that they survived in large numbers and migrated west to become the Ashkenazi.The Diaspora and the Roman Empire are far more likely explanations, but less convenient to anti-Semitic Jewish conspiracy theories.

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con10t

This reply is intended for 158.

There is no racism here, no blame, no ignoring, just a civil measured attention to fact. You're argument is using the terrible history suffered by the European Jews in the early and mid-20th Century and expoliting it actually. Don't you find that disrespectful of both that reality and the reality that for every 1 Israeli killed, 100 Palestinians are massacred, not to mention the hugely disproportionate ratio of children that died provoked by the land theft and Israeli serial murder of Palestinians and the regular destruction of their economic and social freedom? Often there is projection in the person who makes your arguments. I would not like to see that you take racism so unseriously that you might fall into its trap and from your apparent callousness develop racist views of humanity that has caused so much loss and pain wherever it rears its ugly head.

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158

Can you read????

Show me where I referred ever to that as an excuse. I challenge you.

READ,   READ,

In WWII 60% of deaths civilians, including German babies.  You constantly ignore facts in your zeal to condemn Israel.If Hamas''Fighters had crawled out of their holes with the other rarsa, and fought, they would have been the ones killed, and more than 5 Israeli soldiers would have been killed.

DO YOU CONDEMN HAMAS FOR FIRING ROCKETS AT BABIES?

One murder of a baby is a war crime.  Palestinians took Palestine from the native Berbers.  Israelis lived in Palestine 4000 years ago.

Hamas said they will "exterminate''Israel, will kill Jewish babies worldwide. That is as low as humans can get. And yes, it is anti Jewish racism, a threat to kill all membersof an ethnic group.  That defines racism and it is dispicable and Hamas are racist.

And don't preach to me.  I grew up in a racist society and know exactly what racism is.


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News-N-Views

Whatever it is, but one thing is clear, terrorism of HAMAS is the right way?

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djsblack

No court has jurisdiction and these are all Muslim generated fantasies while ignoring the war crimes of the Arab Palestinians and the Hamas for using Human shields and also firing indiscrimately into civillian populations.

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Keith Risman

It is Hamas that is guilty of war crimes.  If you hide your missles and rockets amoung women and children, is it any wonder that those women and children wind up as casualties of war.   From day 1 of the Gaza bombing, Hamas had the option to stop shooting rockets into civilian areas in Israel.  They chose not to and were willing to let their own people get killed, civilians, so they could continue to try and kill innocent Israelis.  Hamas is the one guilty of war crimes.

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gahooch

If you go to sleep on top of rockets don't expect to wake up in the morning.

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con10t

your claim of hiding rockets in a zone where there is no Israeli appoval or funding to build military bases, and in a zone under Israeli siege, one of the most densely inhabited (that includes women and children fyi) urban areas, what do you suppose is the case when Israeli terror strikes in what they say themselves is in the general direction of some Palestinian defending their kids from more killing?

Hams responded to the incursion that Israel made killing six which led to this lopsided war that is actually a massacre of child murderers from Israel.

Your arguments are so lame. Your accusation of human shields is absurd. Israel rounds up 1 and a half millon Palestinians, mistreats them, corals and controls their lives, food, travel, reading material, travel, everything, in a really dense zone, robbing them of their rightful land, and then says that the kds and women with the men in a cage are used as shields. Back off and let Palestien be free and then if there is aggression beyond the original borders, you may see that your points are provoked and stoked and mistaking Israeli terrorizing murderous cruelty for self-defense.

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René

Take a look at this video and then repeat your unverified accusations, cont.

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Paschen

Both should be put on trial. Israel's Government as well as all Hamas leaders. 

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con10t

Citj, moon

I second that, agreed.

Is it not too often the case that being objective is sluffed off as indicating some hidden personal anti-this-or-that agenda. Mistaking objectivity as being diametrically opposed to or 'revenging' subjectivity, denies the terms meaning not as opposites but as compliments. The apparent logic of setting objectivity up as the opposite of subjectivity is rhetorically effective to a point, but it only seeds and excuses revenge that results in the sort of war criminal actions that Israel currently is trying to deny and justify, reputing habeus corpus, human rights and a real chance at peace and freedom for Palestinians.

I am so curious to find out how Palestine will in a generation symbolically and in reality foster stability and mitigate fear in the region and perhaps around the world. If only Israel would just play ball and in the first inning prosecute and support international prosecution of the war criminals in their midst.


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Red Cyclon

Palestinians are living in another world where apartheid, siege,Killing, Child abuse and women humiliation are the order of the day. This is the civilization and culture the Israelis demonstrate daily. Criticizing the blatant Israeli savagery and occupation will trigger many ignorant idiots to rise threatening and labeling critics of these barbaric acts as Anti-Semitic, defending Hamas terrorists. their actions speaks for itself and sould not be tolarated anymore.The International Community and the civilized world must put a stop to these crimes and criminals. let justice be done.

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con10t

better things to do? you consider ethnic cleansing banal?

yes, Israel built the first version of Windows i believe. quite a contribution to technology, uggh.

i built tagged user-generated media sites in 1997 with canadian linux Red Hat.

but true there are many many contributions by israelis and lets not forget that computer science is Islamic at its orginal. The word 'algorithm' is not rooted in Al Gore's rhythm, but the english mispronounciation of the Islamic polymath who first dreamed up in math the idea of a set of instructions that is the algorithm, named after him Al Kwarizmi, if i am spelling that right :-) he lived in what is now Afghanistan.

GPS too is an Islamic invention when very religious Islamic philosophers, writers, scientists, technologist, Al Biruni and colleague triangulated Baghdad and I believe it was Kabul 700 years before Europe had calculus. They invented both the math, science and instrument way back then (no hardware stores around) for what became Global Positioning Systems.

The list goes on. Still Muslims dont use their contibutions to science as a rationale for the mass murder and child-maiming. I don't see your link between Israeli technological accomplishments and their bent to kill Palestinians and invent ghosts as the reason.


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