Israel & Gaza – If only it was this simple

by Cardada | January 3, 2009 at 10:05 pm
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NOTE BEFORE YOU READ: In no way can I even scratch the surface of the complexities involved with the Palestinian and Israeli conflict. The points I raise below are only to ask questions and state opinions in some areas that interest me. What I have written is not a final opinion, rather it is to generate thoughts and discussion.

This latest increase in violence between Israel and Palestine sickens me. The fact that it is occurring is not surprising though. One element of this conflict that is bothering me is the folks calling supporters of the Palestinians anti-Semitic. I have no religious or family invested values relating to this dispute. I view it right now as a human conflict. Let me just say I do understand this is more than a simplistic disagreement. What I am getting at is when I purely look at the issue of a huge military deciding to react to a pretty ineffective assault from a country they virtually surround, only then do I put the other issues to the side for the moment. What bothers me is that some folks can’t understand that someone (AKA me) might not care about the religious background of a territory WHEN citizens, not even in the conflict, are getting killed by a sloppy military offensive. I believe the world has a hard time putting together a stronger voice against Israel’s current military tactics because of the history of the Jewish people. I think world leaders are incredibly worried about appearing not against the political and military policies of Israel, but against a Jewish state and therefore its people.

Israel is naive to believe that they can simply wipe out Hamas. If anything they are creating a group of people that will only be more united in their hatred of Israel. As a government Israel concerns me with their policies towards the Palestinians. Israel is a super power with the upper hand. They have a military built with sophisticated American technology. Surely they can be more diplomatic or more restrained in the way they interact with the Palestinians? For example if (and I’m not sure where I stand on this) they truly are just wanting to remove the Hamas leadership could they not be a little more accurate in there targeting? If a Suicide bomber can get into Israel every now and then, surely a few undercover specialty forces could do the same in the other direction. If Israel did not have the backing of the US Government and the “we’ll just watch” attitude of the rest of the world, their policies and actions would take a very different direction.

So where does this leave the current operation in Gaza? So far it appears the outcome will be a destroyed territory with poverty even worse that it has ever been. And keep in mind it already wasn’t that great. Extreme poverty and a depleted infrastructure does not make a happy population. No matter what rhetoric Israel uses they are not for the Palestinian citizen when they are killing them.
Currently we have a state that hates having to deal with a neighbouring territory and we have a territory that has a political leadership whose goal is to remove the Jewish state. Keep the wall and fight over where it should be moved from or too in international courts. A third party point of view could only be better. Close the border crossings into Israel and set up a system to stop the rockets. Surely Israel has the technology to intercept 99% of the rockets fired into their state? Some neighbours just don’t get along. Israel with their superior power and resources needs to initiate a halt to all interactions with Gaza and Hamas. When either side of the wall has a change in leadership or an interest to truly talk it will happen.

Gaza, and in turn Hamas, should make an effort to build a strong relationship with Egypt. The current relationship between Hamas and Israel clearly isn’t working so another direction needs to be looked at. Realize that the nature of Gaza’s physical surroundings demand that it maintain economic ties with at least one of its neighbours. I know this is easier said than done. What I am trying to bring forward is that the traditional idea of Israel and Gaza finding a solution may not be possible. Sometimes the traditional option is not an option at all. So look at the alternatives.

Not every country gets to be on top and the Palestinians need to realize this. In the same vein Israel, as the military supper power of the region, needs to realize that with that power comes responsibility. Their close ally, America, has not been the best role model of late but that is no excuse for abusing power. Israel, use those religious values you believe so strongly in, and show some restraint towards your neighbours. It takes two to fight.

Are any of the points I raised possible, without bringing in the religious element? On paper yes but when you throw these ideas back into the full mix the real possibility of a never ending conflict kicks in. Add in that as I am writing Israel’s ground troops are rolling into Gaza. Palestine is impoverished, cut off, angry, and has been for very long time. The current actions can only make this conflict worse. What does a small territory do when it is backed against the ocean with a hostile state invading and a neighbour that just watches? It does what it can when the rest of the world will do nothing, it fights. And those that don’t want to fight hide and pray they will make it to the next day. I truly hope Palestinians in Gaza will continue to exist and a hold my breath to see if anyone else in the world has the guts to tell Israel enough is enough.

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Amy Judd

good opinion piece. I think these points will generate some good discussion. I think you're right when you state that like all wars, this is a human conflict, it matters less at this point who is on each side (my opinion).

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tikun

I appreciate your opinion on the conflict. I also believe that Israel is doing everything it can to minimize civilian casualties even though Hamas uses "human shields" and populated locations to  launch their rockets into Israel.

I really don't agree that Hamas has wide support even in Gaza. No doubt that people are currently suffering because of this war that Hamas has perpetrated by its endless barrage of rockets into Israel.

 People in "safe" countries, that are not constantly on alert for rockets and suicide bombers have no real understanding of the desires of Iran-Hamas-Syris-Hezbullah axis and what they are interested in achieving. first it is Israel's  destruction  then the focus is on you. Israel is just an irritant to them. The Palestinians are not their real interest. They were originally supported by Gazans because of the corrupt Fatah party when Arafat and his henchmen stole billions from the coffers. 

I think that holding  the Jewish people up as some kind of weather vane to see if it is okay to criticize their policies is over blown. What is not acceptable is the use the Nazi analogy to what Israel is doing. This is nonsense and offensive. It also is part of the European guilt trip    about their treatment of the Jews during the war. If Israel can be seen as being like the Nazis then I no longer need to feel guilty. 

Once Gaza is restored to a peaceful place along side Israel then the Gaza community will prosper. I pray that this will be the case but first the terror cancer needs to be diminished for the people to breathe and live in peace.



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Paschen

Interesting and well reflected. Good round up. This is not about religion nor Justice, it is about power and abuse of power. I wonder what the Israeli would say if they where the once in Gaza and in the same position as well and the Palestinian would be the one in Israel bombing they into the sea. I am pretty sure the Israeli would call it a holocaust by the Palestinian and cry murder.

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tikun

Israel wouldn't put itself into a position where by it sacrifice it's own  innocent civilians for some terrorist activity against another nation. Israel would stand up against its internal cancer. Israelis are notorious for speaking up and not allowing any group to get away with any actions that do not meet public consensus. 

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Paschen

tikun, do you know how many European in Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece, France, Great Britain, Russia, Belgium have died and been injured by Terrorist such as the RAF, the IRA, the FLN, the Basque separatist, the BMG and so on? Yes Europe does fight them yet does not put a siege on a group or ethnicity nor bombs cities and kills civilians because of it.

There is a big difference between fighting terrorist and killing an entire ethnical group of people. The Israeli would cry murder and holocaust would it be the other way around. The way Israel treats the Palestinian would be a conceder a crime if any Israeli would be treated like that any where around the world. Israel is the one being the terrorist here along with Hamas. I can not see the difference any longer between Israel and any other terrorist organization, other that is is a state like Afghanistan under the Taliban.

  

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Heritage

In no way can I even scratch the surface of the complexities involved with the Palestinian and Israeli conflict.

A good place to start would be to include the word Occupation in the discussion. Any attempt to scratch the surface must begin and end with the brutal illegal 40+ year Occupation of Palestine.

The Omission is a common one. Essentially seeking to erase 40+ years of occupation from the debate.

Why wasn't the Occupation mentioned in this article?

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158

Good opinion.

There are as always two sides to this.  The strongest side is not always wrong.

Should Israel be allowed to fire a few hundred rockets into Gaza each day and call it even?

The problem is land.  Two sides claim the same land. Israel sits on land Arabs claim as their homeland.  But Jews also claim it as an ancestral homeland. And Jews have no other place to go.

To solve this Hamas must accept that Israel has the right to live in a part of Palestine, in a Jewish state.

Israel must accept that Palestinians mist have a free state and Israel must help to improve their lives.

And both sides must accept that being peaceful neighbors is the only way.

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azzayindia

organised religion is the root of all such organised crime against humanity.Remove religion and the whole region will be peaceful.

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Cardada

Thanks for the comments.

I don't see Hamas as any part of a long time solution but I brought them into my piece because they are central to the current conflict. I strongly believe that a less cut off, restricted, and poverty stricken Gaza would never have given them the power they have right now. Part of this conflict is also the internal conflict. BUT I believe in this situation, by using the amount of destructive force that Israel is using, it can only unite more Palestinians in Gaza against Israel.

Regarding the occupation mentioned by 'Heritage'. First as I said I was addressing parts of this conflict that I wanted to raise or create dialogue about. That said it is the attachment to who did what, an almost invisible points list, that is part of the core of the problem. The reason I didn't address it here is because that type of mentality has to be put aside for any type of long term peace to occur. I'm not saying ignore history in general. A long lasting peace agreement is only possible if the two sides can be in the moment and acknowledge the conditions on the ground today. Healing or some form of reconciliation is need but that is down the road. Keep focusing on the past and this conflict will never end.

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Heritage

The reason I didn't address it here is because that type of mentality has to be put aside for any type of long term peace to occur.

I see just put the Occupation to one side....Ignore it?

A long lasting peace agreement is only possible if the two sides can be in the moment and acknowledge the conditions on the ground today.

Conditions on the ground? The Occupation continues 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.....it has done for the past 40+ years......

Is the O word so difficult to discuss?

You have now used the O word once.....

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