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Jerusalem Post Reports IDF Violations of Laws-of-War
Israelis take comfort in the belief that the IDF does all it can to spare civilians, but its shelling of Gaza calls that belief into question. Two kinds of artillery shells selected for use in Gaza - one as an "obscurant," the other as a weapon - were utterly inappropriate for the densely populated areas where the IDF deployed them. Their use violated the IDF's obligations under the laws of war.
The IDF, Jerusalem Post also reports, holds Hamas, elected by the Palestinians, as wholly responsible for civilian casualities and deaths. The report adds that the IDF is using a rhetoric of denial and obfuscation to avoid any war crime charges from developing a 'hearts and minds' component that would compel the Israeli leaders to defend their use of weapons outlawed n urban war zones with high numbers of civilians - white phosphorus bombs packed with 116 phosphorus soaked wedges that burn intensely and set fires and cause 1st degree burn, as well as, 155 mm high explosive artillery that injure civilians from scrapnel and blast force in a radius of 300m. Hundreds of both waepons were approved and used in Gaza by the Israeli leadership and military.
The world must know the reason why? There is a good independent video up on the Guardian website that offers more grounds for Demands grow for Gaza war crimes investigation



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at 07:14 on January 26th, 2009
The Guardian is anything but independent. At least when you have an opinion attach the opinion tag.
at 08:03 on January 26th, 2009
Please defend your argument the the Guardian is not idependent? And include the context that embraces the scanty sources you supply?
at 07:36 on January 26th, 2009
If you are going to be honest in your reporting then you at least should say that this is an OP-ED piece from someone at human rights watch and not the Jpost.. Selective reporting on an article without stating the truth only leaves your honesty in question. I hope that this was not your intent.
at 07:53 on January 26th, 2009
The source is listed and highlighted. And the author is santioned for publication at the Jerusalem Post. It is the quotes and the news embedded in a long article that is excepted. You can read the entire article with the link. That'S why it's there.
To say I am dishonest in my reporting, only continues your slanderous characterizations of my reporting. The last reply from you labeled me to be against Jews as a whole. That slap in the face is beyond any aceptability.
I expect from you an apology for your personal attacks in an attempt to discredit and slander my person. Is that fair? Or must I report you? I would hope you retract your slander and continue with a civil and factual dialogue.
at 12:33 on January 26th, 2009
Source: jpost.com
at 15:01 on January 26th, 2009
what a distortion... over the years... laughable. and jimmie carter stated that there were 3 deaths in 7 years from the rockets you mention. and how many at the massacre in Jenin or Gaza?
an invading, abusive force like israel, what do they expect. pull out of palestine, help your neighbors and if they fight then well then its not freedom fighting, that would be terror.
why dont you try peace and justice for all and then see if you can come up with real numvbers. the above are totally discredited.
at 07:39 on January 26th, 2009
Here is more on Human Rights Watch and the comments you contributed to the jpost.
For many years, Ken Roth and Human Rights Watch have been at the forefront of the campaign to criminalize self-defense against terrorism and to brand Israel as the primary perpetrator of war crimes. Emotional outbursts, convoluted pseudo-legal language and post-colonial bias have contributed to the ideological destruction of human rights principles.
In attacking the IDF's actions against Hamas in Gaza, Roth applies the skills he acquired during his years as a prosecutor in New York, building a tendentious case based on unsupported "evidence," and stripping away the context. He would have us believe that an army - and the IDF in particular - that is less than perfect must be wholly condemned, regardless of the circumstance. His case combines half-truths, speculation, unverifiable evidence and subjective claims that may seem convincing to a jury that has never experienced terror, knows nothing about Hamas, asymmetric warfare or international law, and has a strong anti-Israel bias from the beginning.
at 08:00 on January 26th, 2009
Nothing substantial or substantiated. Nothing but innuendo, slander, unfounded allegations, media fog, and loose rhetoric.
You obviously like to disrespect those in history who have REALLY suffered from the terror of anti-Semitism. Better that you loosely and casually and indiscriminately call people with no facts or figures Micky Mice than abusing the real meaning and horror of anti-Semitism.
Have you ever read as a chld 'The Boy Whoe Cried Wolf'? If we are to protect all Jewish peoples from anti-Semitism, real anit-Semitism, then we must be very careful in throwing around that term.Otherwise it loses its meaning. You are contributing to that loss of meaning, and I hope you will be more careful before using a term like anti-Semitism, anti-Jewish, anti-Israel for a quick attempt at drawing sympathy based on the REAL suffering of Jewish people in the past. Honor them, don't exploit them and water down the horror or real anti-Semitism.
at 12:44 on January 26th, 2009
Follow your own advice.
We will kill Jewish children world wide.
Jewish children are a legitimate target.
We will exterminate Israel
That defines anti-semitism and you are the one dishonoring Jews by excusing terrorism against them..
Source: jpost.com
at 14:51 on January 26th, 2009
i do not support that rhetoric, and it's a fool to take such blather so seriously as to puncture palestinian school children with the micro holes that don't stop burning deep in the flesh, as the Israeli use of white phosphorus causes.
Nobody in their right mind calls for the extermination of anyone and rhetoric as anything more than empty verbal anger against the terror that israel wreaks on palestine is just that. illegal weapons that maim kids with shrapnel that blasts 300 meters in all directions in a ward zone, and soaking kids with the 116 phoshporus pellets in each white phosphorus device dropped on palestinian school kids is hardly an answer.
are you so foolish to think you can use such soapbox rhetoric as anything other than a cry for attention for a people oppressed and abused by israel in its occupied territories? that rhetoric is just ridiculous and your idea that it is the common notion of the palestinian people is ridiculous too, it would be akin to using the jewish rabbis calling for carpet bombing or the ultra-extreme israeli settlers racist comments all over the net as excuse to murder israelis. come on, get with it.
at 15:11 on January 26th, 2009
Jews were told the same thing about Hitler's rhetoric.
Combined with firing rockets at Jewish children and bragging about killing Jewish children for revenge only a fool would not take it serious.
No one in their right mind would defend such a ti semitic threats, combined with their record of killing Jewish children.
Repeating the same talking points for the 118th time shows only the absence of facts to support that anti-Jewish terrorism.
When a head of government, who took power in a coup makes such threats then fires rockets at Jewish babies, that Hamas leader ia, as the EU said, is a terrorist leader.
AND, as said above, hiding fighters in civilian houses makes that house a military target.
Aren't you the one who said stop the blsame game, then blame Israel with every keystroke, and has rejected 10 chances to say firing rockets at Jewish children is a war crime?
Me.--
Firing rockets, of any kind. at civilians is a war crime.
Killing Jewish children in revenge is a war crime.
----you
Firing rockets as self-defense against a murderous occupier? Is that a war crime? No.
Correct me if I am wrong but does this statement say killing Jewish babies is not a war crime.?
at 08:58 on January 26th, 2009
The Guardian has many Jewish writers working on its staff.
at 11:33 on January 26th, 2009
Both sides work the internet to spin the news.
Firing rockets, of any kind. at civilians is a war crime.
Killing Jewish children in revenge is a war crime.
Firing at soldiers from within civilian areas is a war crime.
Blame both, not just one.
at 12:17 on January 26th, 2009
Firing rockets as self-defense against a murderous occupier? Is that a war crime? No.
However as a pacifist I abhore all violence and do not in any way support the Hamas and other Palestinian factions who responded to the Israeli rupture of the ceasefire (read Jimmie Carter) when they attacked some tunnel users, killing six. As Israel sieges and blockades Gaza, the people need the tunnel not only to import weapons but life-supporting supplies. The food rations allowed by Israel at the time they attacked the tunnel and broke the ceasefire leading to the use of rockets as retaliation amounts to only 20% of the needs.
Did you know as well that teenagers refused exit by Israel during its siege have died for lack of medical care, that is, ten cancer patients, totally unable to even hold a gun in their condition, and yet refused medical treatment in Israel. That is a death sentance for sick people.
The question is not as you see it, who to blame? that is a blame game. The fact is that Israel committed war crime, child murder and the slow torture of a free people, whose land they have stolen and whose liberty they brutally deny.
Remove the thumbscrews, and let's see how Palestine develops. Where I come from Palestinians and Jews live in harmony. My direct family has both Islamic and Jewish members. We laugh a lot at holidays when we cook Matza bread and Bedouin food, my Cuban and German and Swedish and Mohawk direct family members at the table.
You mention war crime against killing children? Please specify during the War on Gaza or Operation Cast Lead, how many and if there were Israeli children killed. My research finds your statement to be utterly false and therefore evasive and in denial of Israel's mass murder of Gazan children. Respect all human life and stop your tit-for-tat conconted revengeful argumentation. It won't work and your blame game strategy will only push the world to a brink that helps noone, repeat, noone.
Palestinians are a glorious people. Israeli's are loyal friends. Those Israeli's massacring Palestinians and those Israeli's denying their nation's war crimes are going to push the world, as Bush did, to a deadly brink. It doesn't have to be that way. Let Palestine be free. Ignore Israel's and Palestine's ultra-hateful individuals. They are not worth the lives that are robbed with them as the blame and excuse. There are a majority of decent Israelis and Palestinians and if you study natural history you willunderstand that human cooperation is actually genetic. Those who cooperate and tolerate by their nature lived longer and produced more offspring. Those early humans who were uncooperative and intolerant, wehn sick or injured, were ignored by their tribes. There is even an Israeli Neanderthal (homo neaderthalensis) male specimen that study has shown was buried in a ritual and although the bone data showed he was blind and lame for more than 14 years, the question is why did people come to care for him, bring him food? What did he know or do for the community?
Cooperation if not genetic, for those who wish to avoid any socio-biology inference, is at least human nature, prefered and prospering. Israel currently is one of the world's worst examples for massacring civilians based on some single or small number of fanatics who will without provocation, disappear by the general decency of the Palestinians. Have you ever met a Palestinian you didn't like? I haven't. I haven't either any Israeli friend who I don't admire and enjoy conversing with.
at 13:37 on January 26th, 2009
Con
You are very uninformed or are not stating facts.UN law states deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime, for whatever reason, even at Jews, who are indeed humans.
You insult and degrade Jewish civilian victims when you excuse terrorism against them.,
Did you know millions of Germans, Japanese, Russians died from medical conditions while they were at war?
Jews were in Palestine long before Arabs. In 1948 the UN give this land to Israel, then Arabs invaded to take it away.
Read the statistics above. Gaza was invaded to stop years of murders of Jewish children and civilians, over 1000.
YOU EVEN NOW EXCUSE HAMAS MURDERERS OF JEWISH CHILDREN. What should I call that. Parrots can repeat ad asurdium, talking points against Jews, but when they refuse to condemn murder of Jewish children, they have no credibility.
You claim Hamas can take revenge against Jewish children. What do you call that.
""Let. Palestine be free. Ignore Israel's and Palestine's ultra-hateful individuals. They are not worth the lives that are robbed with them as the blame and excuse. There are a majority of decent Israelis and Palestinians.""
For only the second time I can agree with you, on this one point..
at 14:42 on January 26th, 2009
158, first of all my nick is con10t
please inform me how i am misinformed? to confuse and thereby try to diffuse the fact of war crime in Gaza over the past month.
your example of other murderous histories in japan, russia or germany do not mitigate in the least the war crime and murder of palestinians by israel. bringing up some tit for tat only becomes a revenge argument. no basis there.
you are misinformed concerning the territorial borders of israel. but it is too boring to remind you of that, as everyone knows israel has and even calls the land they stole 'occupied territory'.
i have never called for revenge and child murder. on the contrary. i refuse your attempt to justify 1000 eyes for 1 eye defense. israel must and will be prosecuted for war crimes in gaza.
if a country like israel sets civil society and international tolerance and justice aside and allows or disregards war crime, i would suggest the world is no safer and that when a supposedly democratc and civil nation ignores war crime, what will the other terrorists fear and do?
imagine kim jong il when he sees that israel decides its ok to burn and kill children with white phosphorus and the bombs that send shrapnel 300 meters, both banned, and that israel thinks it is justified and ok, in the ace of world opinion and evidence that such weapons were in fact used against gazan civilians by israel. that's a recipe for a kind of world you ought to do all in your power to avoid. prosecute the war crimes by israel now, nip denial and acceptance, and hence support for legitimizing war crime, stop pointing fingers as a defense of israel's war crimes, or claiming any who try to salvage israel's reputation by owning up to their grave mistake in gaza dn their sanctionig of weapons that maim and mass murder children.
report on it, expose it, and let's get some civility back into israel. it deserves it and it is much needed for stability everywhere, as you must know. protecting and excusing and rationalizing and denying war crime in gaza by israel is a mug's game that bolsters terrorists by sanctioning it as a policy of the israeli military.
at 15:19 on January 26th, 2009
I repeat.
When you specifically state killing Jewish babies with rocket fire targeted at civilians is a war crime, I will debate you on your other points. But until you admit this you are not worth debating.
I have given you 10 chances to say this and you avoid every one. You load up on every false charge against Israel yet lack the integrity to admit that Hamas killing Jewish babies is a war crime. So go ahead, repeat 1000 times. Israelis are mass murderers, falsely accuse me of defending Israel and avoid the fact that you seem to excuse the murder of babies who just happen to be Jewish
at 04:27 on January 27th, 2009
if i state that, it is to rob the meaning of the word 'war crime'. it is a terrorist action for sure as manachem begin's bombing of the king david hotel killing 91, far more than all gazan rockets fired with the same rights and similar reasons to begin, who as you know, went on to win a nobel peace prize some decades after he ended his terrorism career.
and could you please document the 'babies' plural that the gazan rockets have targeted and killed? i am unaware of those deaths, which if in fact as you say have happened over the past month at the hands of hamas, are horrendous.
i have found one incident in which a misfired hamas rocket killed two palestinian children. that is certainly a war crime.