Jimmy Carter's Book "Palestine" endorsed by Osama Bin Ladin

Carter will go down in history as the Ned Flanders of Presidents.

Has any one actually read the book?

Carter is right on, I would not use Osama here since he is most likely dead. It looks like a 

cheep attempt to discredit Carter.

What would it be like to put Bin Laden and Allen Dershowitz in the same room?

Here is Dershowitz' review of Jimmy Carter's book when it first came out.

Sometimes you really can tell a book by its cover. President Jimmy Carter's decision to title his new anti-Israel screed "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" (Simon & Schuster, 288 pages, $27) tells it all. His use of the loaded word "apartheid," suggesting an analogy to the hated policies of South Africa, is especially outrageous, considering his acknowledgment buried near the end of his shallow and superficial book that what is going on in Israel today "is unlike that in South Africa -- not racism, but the acquisition of land." Nor does he explain that Israel's motivation for holding on to land it captured in a defensive war is the prevention of terrorism. Israel has tried, on several occasions, to exchange land for peace, and what it got instead was terrorism, rockets, and kidnappings launched from the returned land.

In fact, Palestinian-Arab terrorism is virtually missing from Mr. Carter's entire historical account, which blames nearly everything on Israel and almost nothing on the Palestinians. Incredibly, he asserts that the initial violence in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict occurred when "Jewish militants" attacked Arabs in 1939. The long history of Palestinian terrorism against Jews -- which began in 1929, when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem ordered the slaughter of more than 100 rabbis, students, and non-Zionist Sephardim whose families had lived in Hebron and other ancient Jewish cities for millennia -- was motivated by religious bigotry. The Jews responded to this racist violence by establishing a defense force. There is no mention of the long history of Palestinian terrorism before the occupation, or of the Munich massacre and others inspired by Yasser Arafat. There is not even a reference to the Karine A, the boatful of terrorist weapons ordered by Arafat in January 2002.

Mr. Carter's book is so filled with simple mistakes of fact and deliberate omissions that were it a brief filed in a court of law, it would be struck and its author sanctioned for misleading the court. Mr. Carter too is guilty of misleading the court of public opinion. A mere listing of all of Mr. Carter's mistakes and omissions would fill a volume the size of his book. Here are just a few of the most egregious:

Mr. Carter's book is so filled with simple mistakes of fact and deliberate omissions that were it a brief filed in a court of law, it would be struck and its author sanctioned for misleading the court. Mr. Carter too is guilty of misleading the court of public opinion. A mere listing of all of Mr. Carter's mistakes and omissions would fill a volume the size of his book. Here are just a few of the most egregious:

Mr. Carter emphasizes that "Christian and Muslim Arabs had continued to live in this same land since Roman times," but he ignores the fact that Jews have lived in Hebron, Tzfat, Jerusalem, and other cities for even longer. Nor does he discuss the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews from Arab countries since 1948.

Mr. Carter repeatedly claims that the Palestinian Arabs have long supported a two-state solution and the Israelis have always opposed it. Yet he makes no mention of the fact that in 1938 the Peel Commission proposed a two-state solution, with Israel receiving a mere sliver of its ancient homeland and the Palestinians receiving the bulk of the land. The Jews accepted and the Palestinians rejected this proposal because Arab leaders cared more about there being no Jewish state on Muslim holy land than about having a Palestinian state of their own.

He barely mentions Israel's acceptance, and the Palestinian rejection, of the United Nation's division of the mandate in 1948.

He claims that in 1967 Israel launched a preemptive attack against Jordan. The fact is that Jordan attacked Israel first, Israel tried desperately to persuade Jordan to remain out of the war, and Israel counterattacked after the Jordanian army surrounded Jerusalem, firing missiles into the center of the city. Only then did Israel capture the West Bank, which it was willing to return in exchange for peace and recognition from Jordan.

Mr. Carter repeatedly mentions Security Council Resolution 242, which called for return of captured territories in exchange for peace, recognition, and secure boundaries, but he ignores that Israel accepted and all the Arab nations and the Palestinians rejected this resolution. The Arabs met in Khartum and issued their three famous "no's": "No peace, no recognition, no negotiation." But you wouldn't know that from reading the history according to Mr. Carter.

Mr. Carter faults Israel for its "air strike that destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor" without mentioning that Iraq had threatened to attack Israel with nuclear weapons if Iraq succeeded in building a bomb.

Mr. Carter faults Israel for its administration of Christian and Muslim religious sites, when in fact Israel is scrupulous about ensuring those of every religion the right to worship as they please -- consistent, of course, with security needs. He fails to mention that between 1948 and 1967, when Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the Hashemites destroyed and desecrated Jewish religious sites and prevented Jews from praying at the Western Wall. He also never mentions Egypt's brutal occupation of Gaza between 1949 and 1967.

Mr. Carter blames Israel, and exonerates Arafat, for the Palestinian refusal to accept statehood on 95% of the West Bank and all of Gaza pursuant to the Clinton-Barak offers at Camp David and Taba in 2000–2001. He accepts the Palestinian revisionist history, rejects the eyewitness accounts of President Clinton and Dennis Ross, and ignores Saudi Prince Bandar's accusation that Arafat's rejection of the proposal was "a crime" and that Arafat's account "was not truthful" -- except, apparently, to Mr. Carter. The fact that Mr. Carter chooses to believe Arafat over Mr. Clinton speaks volumes.

Mr. Carter's description of the recent Lebanon war is misleading. He begins by asserting that Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers. "Captured" suggests a military apprehension subject to the usual prisoner of war status. The soldiers were kidnapped, and have not been heard from -- not even a sign of life. The rocket attacks that preceded Israel's invasion are largely ignored, as is the fact that Hezbollah fired its rockets from civilian population centers.

Mr. Carter gives virtually no credit to Israel's superb legal system, falsely asserting (without any citation) that "confessions extracted through torture are admissible in Israeli courts," that prisoners are "executed," and that the "accusers" act "as judges." Even Israel's most severe critics acknowledge the fairness of the Israeli Supreme Court, but not Mr. Carter.

Mr. Carter even blames Israel for the "exodus of Christians from the Holy Land," totally ignoring the Islamization of the area by Hamas and the comparable exodus of Christian Arabs from Lebanon as a result of the increasing influence of Hezbollah and the repeated assassination of Christian leaders by Syria.

Mr. Carter also blames every American administration but his own for the Mideast stalemate with particular emphasis on "a submissive White House and U.S. Congress in recent years." He employs hyperbole and overstatement when he says that "dialogue on controversial issues is a privilege to be extended only as a reward for subservient behavior and withheld from those who reject U.S. demands." He confuses terrorist states, such as Iran and Syria, to which we do not extend dialogue, with states with whom we strongly disagree, such as France and China, but with whom we have constant dialogue.

 

And it's not just the facts; it's the tone as well. It's obvious that Mr. Carter just doesn't like Israel or Israelis. He lectured Golda Meir on Israeli's "secular" nature, warning her that "Israel was punished whenever its leaders turned away from devout worship of God." He admits that he did not like Menachem Begin. He has little good to say about any Israelis -- except those few who agree with him. But he apparently got along swimmingly with the very secular Syrian mass-murderer Hafez al-Assad. Mr. Carter and his wife Rosalynn also had a fine time with the equally secular Arafat -- a man who has the blood of hundreds of Americans and Israelis on his hands:

Rosalynn and I met with Yasir Arafat in Gaza City, where he was staying with his wife, Suha, and their little daughter. The baby, dressed in a beautiful pink suit, came readily to sit on my lap, where I practiced the same wiles that had been successful with our children and grandchildren. A lot of photographs were taken, and then the photographers asked that Arafat hold his daughter for a while. When he took her, the child screamed loudly and reached out her hands to me, bringing jovial admonitions to the presidential candidate to stay at home enough to become acquainted with is own child.

There is something quite disturbing about these pictures.

"Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" is so biased that it inevitably raises the question of what would motivate a decent man like Jimmy Carter to write such an indecent book. Whatever Mr. Carter's motives may be, his authorship of this ahistorical, one-sided, and simplistic brief against Israel forever disqualifies him from playing any positive role in fairly resolving the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. That is a tragedy because the Carter Center, which has done much good in the world, could have been a force for peace if Jimmy Carter were as generous in spirit to the Israelis as he is to the Palestinians.

 

 

rng

I posted his review in the interest of  equal time for both points of view. 

I think Dershowitz represents Jewish views and has chosen to be the spokesperson for the American Jewish Community, and as such it is encumbant upon him to protect their interests as he sees it in Isreal.  And he probably sees American sentiment taking a more egalitarian and sympathetic view toward the Palestinians.   

Thank  you A and rng for your discussion on Derschowitz. 

Carter needs to stay on his farm and shut up.

Hamas and Fatah are to blame for 95% of Palestine's problems.

Hamas cowards started the Gaza war by aiming rockets at women an d children, saying they are a legitimate target, then they hid like rats when soldiers entered Gaza, killing only six soldiers in a month. Palestinians have killed far more Palestinia ns than has Israel.

I do not defend Israel but I am not not blind to Hamas crimes either.

If hamas had fought soldiers rather than hiding behind civilians fewer civilians would have died.

Can you read?

I said I do not defend Israel.

Hamas had heavy weapons, anti tank weapons, machine guns. What do you think they used to kill Fatah men and their families?

They had 85000 well armed men so cut the garbage.

They bragged about Gaza being an Israeli graveyard, then they ran like cowards.

A platoon of crippled old women would have better defended their hoimeland.

 Unless you lie show me once where I ever defended Israel.

Showing Hamas to be criminals and cowards is not a defense of Israel.

I would remind all not to engage in personal attacks.  A civil debate is what we want here. 

Jimmy Carter is always the enigmatic personality . . . . I voted for him because I thought that America needed "change". No "change" occurred . . . things just got worse!

Just because Osama bin Laden is America's public enemy No 2 and cannot be captured does not translate that he has nothing worthwhile to say or that America might not learn from him. Public Enemy No1 is George W. Bush who was responsible for more deaths than bin Laden

Its funny to read "I don't defend Israel" and continuously doing it. Open your eyes people Hamas doesn't have air force to attack on Israel but Israel have jets which can killed thousands of people in Lebanon and Palestine. If Hamas attack 1 rocket they kill 100 people in response what kind of justice it is? What media is doing just making up the stories and we people of the world are just watching and commenting......you fools......

"Crash Course on the Arab Israeli Conflict."

Here are overlooked facts in the current & past Middle East situation.

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem . Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. It has never been a capital for any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when Jordan occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Jewish Scripture. Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran at all.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never visited Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising that they would purge the land of all Jews. 68% left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vastness of Arab territory. Of the one hundred million—100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and Gaza.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel .

18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while Jordan enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

Moral:“Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who can’t save (us).” Psalm 123:3

I have learned that we have a choice to seek justice or give mercy. There is no Justice..I think. Really that is an imagined illusion promoted by man. Why because...Justice can not have two entities. Each side can not extablish authenticity of Justice....So the only thing we have that is real is if we give Mercy to each other. That is respect....and hope that our Justice of Hate is buried with the swords in the sands of agony.

Arms should be abolished from the face of the earth, and people stop the back and forth verbal accusations and venom injections. How about taking it to greet people with friendly vibes to move ourselves above and beyond the painful past.....

It is not Jews or Palestinians I hate or dislike...It is the arms and weapons they use to communicate with each other with.

Nations need to only think about how not to harm each other..and work to solve our problems together.

Militaries are always our problem...never a solution.

Barry I think you should be President of Canada...you are great.

Rev. Jermano

Mr.Albertacowpoke,cool name by the way.I have read Mr. Carter's book and have spent considerable time in that region of the world as a former Operator in our armed forces.For the majority of Carters book I have to agree with him.The treatment of Palestinians in Israel are treated no different than the Africans of South Africa.My opinion means nothing.Amnesty International,World Health Organization,and many,many other world humanitarian  organizations have reported the treatment of Palestinians by Israel.Including war crimes by both Israel and Palestine,with Israel commiting more war crimes than Palestine[United Nations 2009].I have also read many of Alan Derschowitz books and it's like listening to a Jihadist terrorist except this guy is Jewish.Usama bin Laden had stated as early as 1996 that Jihadjist terrorist would attack the USA for it's support of Israel.It is on record as the NSA has it on tape.Israel has been a thorn in our side for decades.According to the CIA,NSA, Israel is the #1 spy agency against our country.Some ally huh?Jimmy Carter was Israel's best friend when he was President,but now that he critisizes her he is an anti-semite.What a cowardly bunch of BS.And can anyone explain the definition of Antisemite.The US needs to sever it's ties with Israel and treat the Middle East with the respect they deserve.Remember without the Arabs help we would not have beat the Germans in Africa and the middle east.They were our allies at one time.As long as we give blind support to Israel and ignore our Muslim friends we will always be targets for terrorism.I remember working a securitry detail with both Iaraelis and Palestians.The Israelis were arrogant and rude.The Palestinians were quite the opposite,ensuring we had all our needs met and shared tea with us.Israel and Americans need to wake up and realise that the Holocause card has played itself out and Americans never did and never will have a reason to feel guilt over the Holocause.Young Americans need to realise our country were the good guys.Even the Muslims were'nt responsible for WWII.Muslims are not our enemies,but if we keep treating them that way the war on terror will last forever.Yet that's not to say that there are'nt any Muslim terrorist groups,there are.But instead of invading the country,we just need to terminate the bad guys.We just did it in Somalia,killing the bad guys,without hurting any innocent civilians.The math is simple,blindsupport  for Israel and we fight terrorist forever or hold Israel accountable for violating the laws of the world and have less terrorist aiming at our country forever.Your choice.Albertacowpoke,thankyou for your Canadian troop's that have been serving alongside our troop's.As someone who has served around your guys I can honestly say Canadian's have every right to be very proud of their service.Semper Fidelis.2delta. 

No matter what changes on the planet,there will always be a need for infantrymen as we not only fight wars,we also provide humanitarian operations.I think you and I would both agree we would rather aid people in their time of need than the other option.If you are ever down here in LA Calif,be advised you have a place to stay and I would be more than happy to take you down to Pendleton to relive old times.Once a Grunt always a Grunt.Take care my Brother.2delta.

Affirmative.A few more Operations on my  body parts and either Iraq or Afghanistan here I come again.Will leave the key for you if I'm gone,just save me a Beer.Feed the cat and drive my vehicle safely.2delta out.