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Kerry: McCain is a Flip Flopper
Sen. John Kerry believes that the presumptive Republican nominee for president is adhering to the Bush Administration orthodoxy in ways that call into question his carefully-nurtured image as a political maverick.
"John McCain has changed in profound and fundamental ways that I find personally really surprising, and frankly upsetting," the Democratic Senator from Massachusetts said on CBS' Face The Nation.
"This is a different John McCain. This is not the Senator John McCain; this is want-to-be president John McCain.
"And the result is that John McCain has flip-flopped on more issues than I was even ever accused possibly of thinking about! I mean, this is extraordinary what he's done: He's changed on taxes; he's now in favor of the Bush tax cut. If you like the Bush economy, if you like the Bush tax cut and what it's done to our economy, making wealthier people wealthier and the average middle class struggle harder, then John McCain is going to give you a third term of George Bush and Karl Rove.
"If you like what has happened to oil prices, John McCain is going to continue that policy. If you like what you see about health care, John McCain has no health care plan.
"I would have at least expected the John McCain that I knew back then to realize what almost every person in the Pentagon has admitted. There are very few who walk around and say, 'Going into Iraq was the right thing to do, and we should have done it, or do it again if I have the chance.' John McCain does.
"I'm challenging Senator McCain's judgment," Kerry said, "that says, 'There's no violent history between Sunni and Shia.' That's wrong. His judgment that says, 'This is going to increase the stability of the Middle East.' It hasn't, it's made it less stable. The judgment that says, quote, 'This will be the best thing for America and the world in a long time. It's the worst thing that we've done in a long time. And he's turned his [focus] away from Afghanistan and al Qaeda and made America less safe. That's dangerous for our country."
Kerry criticized McCain's continued support of the occupation, given the effect of a continuing presence of U.S. troops on the situation in Iraq and the region at large. He pointed to remarks by leaders in the Middle East who told him during a recent visit, "You, America, have served up to Iran Iraq on a platter."
In 2004 CBS news did a two part series (yes it took two parts) on Senator John Kerry's Top Flip Flops in the Presidential Election. Here is the Guy who was, "Swift Boated, and is now Swift Boating one of the only Republicans who came out againt the tactics of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Now his Flip Flops on John McCain who was on his short list for Vice President.
CNS News John Kerry Top 10 Flip Flops
Senate's Role In Wars With Iraq
Following Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in January 1991, Kerry broke with the majority of senators and voted against authorizing the first Gulf War. He said on the Senate floor, “It is a vote about war because whether or not the president exercises his power, we will have no further say after this vote.”
Kerry thus voted against war after Iraq took aggressive military action. He said a vote in favor of military action was tantamount to giving Congress “no further say” on the war.
In October 2002, he supported the current war in Iraq, despite the fact that Iraq took no aggressive action against its neighbors.
In announcing his candidacy for president, in September 2003, he said his October 2002 vote was simply “to threaten” the use of force, apparently backtracking from his belief in 1991 that such a vote would grant the president an open-ended ticket to wage war. ead
If I Knew Then What I Know Now…
“We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today," Kerry said Wednesday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” "Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection of Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda, I would not have gone to war. That's plain and simple."
But on Aug. 9, 2004, when asked if he would still have gone to war knowing Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction, Kerry said: “Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it was the right authority for a president to have.” Speaking to reporters at the edge of the Grand Canyon, he added: “[Although] I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has."
The Kerry campaign says voting to authorize the war in Iraq is different from deciding diplomacy has failed and waging war. But Kerry’s nuanced position has contradicted itself on whether it was right or wrong to wage the war.
In May 2003, at the first Democratic primary debate, John Kerry said his vote authorizing the president to use force was the “right decision” though he would have “preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity.”
But then in January 2004, Kerry began to run as anti-war candidate, saying, "I don't believe the president took us to war as he should have."
The $87 Billion Vote
In September 2003, Kerry implied that voting against wartime funding bills was equivalent to abandoning the troops.
"I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running,” he said.
Then, in October 2003, a year after voting to support the use of force in Iraq, Kerry voted against an $87 billion supplemental funding bill for U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. He did support an alternative bill that funded the $87 billion by cutting some of President Bush’s tax cuts.
But when it was apparent the alternative bill would not pass, he decided to go on record as not supporting the legislation to fund soldiers.
Kerry complicated matters with his now infamous words, “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.”
On Wednesday, he acknowledged that his explanation of his Iraq war votes was "one of those inarticulate moments."
The Israeli Security Fence
In October 2003, Kerry said Israel’s unilateral construction of a security fence was “a barrier to peace.”
“I know how disheartened Palestinians are by the decision to build the barrier off the Green Line," he told the Arab American Institute National Leadership Conference. “We don't need another barrier to peace. Provocative and counterproductive measures only harm Israelis.”
But less than a year later, in February 2004, he reversed himself, calling the fence "a legitimate act of self-defense," and saying "President Bush is rightly discussing with Israel the exact route of the fence to minimize the hardship it causes innocent Palestinians.”
Patriot Act
Kerry joined with 97 other senators and voted for the Patriot Act in October 2001. Campaigning in New Hampshire in June 2003, he defended his vote, saying, “it has to do with things that really were quite necessary in the wake of what happened on Sept. 11.”
But last December in Iowa, Kerry advocated “replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time.”
Death Penalty for Terrorists
In 1996, then- Massachusetts Gov. William Weld asked Kerry, a longtime opponent of capital punishment, whether the death penalty should be applied to terrorists. Kerry replied that the idea amounted to a “terrorist protection policy.”
He said then that such a policy would discourage other nations from extraditing suspects because many U.S. allies preclude extradition to countries that impose the death penalty.
Kerry now favors the death penalty for terrorists, though extradition remains a problem.
Kerry still opposes the death penalty in general, but says if elected he would not interfere with state executions.
Releasing the Strategic Petroleum Reserves
In 2000, Kerry called the release of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve “not relevant” to solving the problem with high fuel prices.
But in recent months, Kerry has pressured President Bush to start pumping oil into the government's emergency reserves. Kerry has called for the release of some of the reserves, as well.
In a switch from his earlier position, Kerry now argues that a sizable release would lessen U.S. demand and thereby fuel lower prices.
Affirmative Action
Though he has long supported affirmative action, in a speech at Yale University in 1992, Kerry called the program "inherently limited and divisive," and said it had "kept America thinking in racial terms." He added that it was failing those most in need of assistance: African-Americans.
At the height of the Democratic primary race in January, Kerry reiterated his support for affirmative action. Kerry’s critics question how he can support a program that he once called “divisive.” Kerry says he was speaking about racial quotas, which he opposes.
Trade
Kerry backed trade pacts with Chile, Singapore and Africa. In 2000, he voted to grant China most-favored-nation trading status.
Having supported the major trade deals of the last decade – including the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) – Kerry was heavily critical of U.S. trade policy during the Democratic primaries.
As the primary race heated up against now vice-presidential nominee John Edwards, who criticized Kerry for supporting NAFTA, Kerry received the prized endorsement of the AFL-CIO by insisting he will insure “workers rights” in trade agreements. Kerry also blamed trade for creating "a race to the bottom" among poverty-stricken nations.
No Child Left Behind
Kerry voted for President Bush's "No Child Left Behind Act” but now campaigns against it. He says Mr. Bush failed to adequately fund the legislation by not linking student-testing requirements with school funding.
Though the legislation requires rigorous testing in the states, Kerry said in August 2004 that the new federal testing mandates were “punitive.”
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The Top presidential Flip Flopper saying John McCain is not the man I knew. The pot calling the kettle black?
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July 6, 2008 at 01:47 pm by politisite, 371 views, 8 comments
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at 13:50 on July 6th, 2008
politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 17:19 on July 6th, 2008
Ahh, well. I voted for Kerry, and would now like to apologize to America for that mistake.
at 21:33 on July 6th, 2008
politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff. I have to agree with Kerry, McCain has certainly changed his mind about many key issues, not to mention his quick and violent temper.
What really convinced me he was unfit to be president was his siding with Bush during his presidency, knowing he would be one of the main Republican candidates after Bush was gone and banking on Bush's policies being the new way of things. He was very quick to forget what Bush/Rove did to him in order to secure the GOP nomination in 2000. On the face, it seems like he was just trying to be a class act, letting bygones be bygones. The only problem is, "letting go" doesn't seem to fit his personality, and as a former POW who was tortured, decided to vote against banning torture shows how opportunistic and power hungry he really is.
Again, this display of repugnant opportunism is not new. When he returned from Vietnam, he discovered his former model wife had a car accident which left her with permanent injuries and weight gain. He proceeded to cheat on her constantly, met a wealthy heiress, divorced his wife, married the heiress in order to launch his political career. He used his influence to hide any wrongdoing while he was a POW, and quashed an attempt by the relatives of POWs back in the 90's to have an investigation into their status, because he was trying to normalize relations with Vietnam.
Even his own mother tells people to vote for her son while they hold their nose. Did I mention the obvious nepotism which allowed a man who graduated fifth last (out of ~900) from his naval academy and then given command of a bomber squadron, only to crash 5 planes during non-combat missions. Anyone who wasn't the son of two honoured admirals would not have gotten that far, probably would have been demoted instead of promoted.
at 18:47 on July 7th, 2008
Among other things, McCain did not crash 5 aircraft. One a missile hit him on the USS Forrestal accidently fired by another aircraft, a fire broke out an killed 137. Do you want to blame McCain for this accident? He was also shot out of the sky over Vieitnam like many other pilots. Do you want to blame McCain for anti aircraft artillery? He had a flame out and went through the procedures to restart his aircraft 3 times before manuvering his aircraft away from homes. His aircraft hit trees and he landed 1000 feet away. Do you want to blame McCain for Mechanical failure?
If McCain did so much wrong while a POW, why does the ones who were imprisioned with him, support him? One of those was a Metal of Honor winner. If McCain was so into using influence don't you think he would have left Hanoi early? Why did he stay when he was able to leave early. Due to the extreme torture McCain endured and several folks signing statements, the Military changed its policy on name, rank and serial number to withhold information as long as possible. Due to the experiences of our POWs the UCMJ was changed.
The quick and violent temper is a joke. If he had such a temper why hasn't the constant media coverage caught this temper you speek of. Violent Temper? That means there is violence involved, Cite it.
Yes he cheated on his wife, I thought that was ok, Remember Monica and how the liberal talking points at that time was, that is a private matter. Have the left fip flopped on Morality. I agree that was wrong.
The reason he ignored the POW groups is some of them were almost militant He would not deal with folks who crashed congressional meeting as he refused to reward unacceptable behaviour. In addition, all the talk that he assulted a woman, he pushed her to the side as he left his office. The group would not move out of his way. This incident has been called assult, Molest, and other names innapropriate for what accutally happened. This one incident has been called, "McCain won't meet with POW/MIA groups. He has been a friend to POWs and again I offer you those who were imprisoned with him.
McCain is publically against torture
Mrs. McCain is right as many strong conservatives have had problems with Senator McCain over the years as he works with democrats even being concided as a vice-presidential candidate. A big reason why Democrats should concider him.
at 22:19 on July 6th, 2008
politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff. I just hope we can avoid McCain's 100 Years War plan.
at 13:22 on July 7th, 2008
You are just repeating DNC Talking points. The hundred years is not a war plan it is a stratigic base in a difficult part of the world. If the DNC is so interested in re-deploying troops, don't you think that we should re-deploy our troops in Japan, North Korea, and Germany? All results of a war.
at 18:29 on July 7th, 2008
politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff.
McCain sounds more moderated to me than Bush. Flipping-flopping is a inherent characteristic or all politicians.
at 18:53 on July 7th, 2008
No Kidding! McCain Flips from the right and flops in the middle. Obama Flips from the left to the middle. It is a political dance.